I'm confused, Halo 2 is awful....(enlighten me, I beg you)

I liked the single player on halo2.I liked dual weilding weapons and the levels were very nicely designed.My only problem with halo2 was the fact that it was way to short and the ending just slams into u.The multiplayer was great though and i still play it to this day.If u feel like your not interested in the series anymore than i dont know what to tell u other than dont buy the third one.Im still very much into the game and cant wait til its launch.loudharley

This guy probably plays his games for fun and doesn't think about anything else; I like to think I'm like that. I think this is probably the best post I've ever read on the gs forums.

I did not say i enjoyed repeated and identical battles. That is never a good thing. Again with your amazing open-mindedness. :roll:

Nor did i insult you or call you narrow minded. Do you always get this upset when somebody disagrees with you? Honestly, i dont know if you think your word is final or whatever but the whole purpose of a FORUM is to DISCUSS things. If you're going to take such personal offense every time somebody disagrees with you and start making patronising comments heck; the internet aint for you.

:roll:

As many have said now; halo 2 wasn't great. It should have been a lot better. It was by no means awful however. And your absolute refusal to discuss anything which outside of your own numerous, often petty complaints is simply further evidence that this is not an open-minded approach at all but rather a person who wants to make a "I think halo sucks thread" and isn't willing to hear a damn thing otherwise.

You're three years late. Trust me, it's been done.

I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Spartan_024

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

a) The game came out three years ago

b) open-mind my *** - you're whining about absolutely everything there possibly is to whine about

c) The first level is a tutorial; hence why it's similar to the first :roll:

d) The survival of the two sergeant's is a running joke. Johnson actually has a story to how he can survive flood infection, but the other guy doesn't. They're sort of like Kenny. Both can die in battle and frequently did in Halo 1 but they'd simple crop up again later on.

e) You'd know that if you were indeed such an open-minded gamer not looking to complain :roll:

Koalakommander

a) 3 years is nothing, and why cant old games be good? =/

b) If I didn't play with an open mind, I would have played the game for 10 minutes and called it terrible. Instead, I sat down with it and I believe I'm half way through the game. I pointed out examples from the game that represent bigger issues. I wrote about the weapons, the repeated use of old enemies, how the game constantly makes you wait, and plenty of examples of the overall boring nature of the game. If you honestly think I'm a narrow minded fanboy looking to nitpick apart a masterpiece, than go for it -- it is a much easier way to finish an argument I'll admit. But as for me, I know that I speaking from the heart about a game that should of been a lot better.

c) You can't teach a player the controls without reusing the entire introduction sequence of the original game? I know you're wise and all (I could tell because you organized your argument with letter points), but I like my sequels...to be sequels.

d) My bad, sorry I didn't notice this running inside joke across a...2 part franchise?

e) Yes, I must be a narrow-minded gamer because I wasn't aware of an inside joke that the developers had.

It's not an inside joke that the developers had. And this is where you fall down. Like so many other posters here who use your same tired strategy.

"Oh but i'm just posting my opinion! I'm not a hater or a fanboy. Please, by all means tell where i'm wrong."

"Oh ok then y'see..."

"NO! Well, here's another bunch of complaints..."

You're taking it to extremes, simple as that. Halo 2's campaign wasn't as good as the original and should have been a lot better. I said it myself earlier. Making a massive deal of it and exaggerating every little flaw doesn't help your arguement though. Especially when you're trying to appear "open minded".

Indeed - if you're so open minded, i just explained WHY johnson and the other sergeant also survive. Yet your wonderful open mind simply reverted to whatever excuse you could possibly use to whine some more, rather than "Oh ok that explains it..."

It isn't a clever secret gag you have to pick up on. It has nothing to do with "a joke the developers had". If you play Halo 1, you'll notice that johnson and the other sergeant may be fighting along side you at some point. You'll see a mortar land right on top of them and kill them. Then a few levels later... they're back. What the heck?

Then the first guy you see in Halo 2 is johnson. Only he was in the middle of the desert at the end of halo 1 right when it exploded. How the hell did he survive?

"Sorry son, that's ****fied...."

Your complaint is a joke which they throw right in your face in the first level.

So are you open-minded? Or are you just going to keep complaining 'til your thread dies no matter what the responses?

And as for your "oh the same enemies..." complaint again your point is moot as Halo has way more bad guys than 90% of other shooters as the vast majority have you simply shooting goons. Brutes and grunts and elites and jackals and snipers and drones and prophets in their many combinations and armour ranks are better than the generic monsters and bad-guys with guns you get in other games.

Again; Halo 2 wasn't as good as it should have been. Whining about everything and exaggerating every issue to make it AWFUL doesn't help your arguement though.

Am I supposed to stop posting because of you then?

You made your point about the squad members quite clear now. You find their repeated use humorous, I find it annoying. You enjoy Halo 2's repeated and identical battles, I find them boring. You may think I'm whining, but being detailed in writing is an important way to entertain the people reading my post, and I think someone already complimented me.

It's just a conflict in taste and opinion, something you are not used to. Just because you didn't find Halo 2 as awful as I made it sound, doesn't mean you have to go and insult me as a "narrow-minded" person. You are turning a simple difference in opinion to a personal battle, which doesn't make sharing opinions on forums very fun at all. You will learn with experience though -- oh wait, over 13k posts? Damn son...

next time just put the title as "im a fanboy that hates halo" instead of sugar coating it with that blasphemy!

[QUOTE="loudharley"]I liked the single player on halo2.I liked dual weilding weapons and the levels were very nicely designed.My only problem with halo2 was the fact that it was way to short and the ending just slams into u.The multiplayer was great though and i still play it to this day.If u feel like your not interested in the series anymore than i dont know what to tell u other than dont buy the third one.Im still very much into the game and cant wait til its launch.PotatoSan

This guy probably plays his games for fun and doesn't think about anything else; I like to think I'm like that. I think this is probably the best post I've ever read on the gs forums.

Honestly, i agree. The game was good because... the game was bad because...

Doesn't get much better.

And he's right; if you hate it so much, dont buy the third one. And dont whine about it here. Honestly; seeing as you're jumping down the throat of anyone who disagrees with you - what exactly is the purpose of your thread?

"Everyone come be entertained by my awesome posts!" ?

Further; "it's just a conflict in opinion, something you are not used to."

I'm not flaming here so please dont take it that way but honestly, you are the most patronising person i've ever encountered on these forums. I dont understand why you feel the need to talk down to everyone.

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Koalakommander

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

My nine year old cousin beat HL2, do I stay away from it because of that, NO...

Well i really enjoyed the gameplay and story of halo2 and i am a fan of the series but i understand that other people may feel differently.Halo is a huge series and a lot of people love it but that doesnt mean everyone does.A lot of people on these messege boards get really defensive over these games if someone bad mouths there favorite game.I try to avoid these useless confrintations on here by simply saying i didnt care for something and go on my way.Most of the time if someones talking about a game that i dont care for i just stay away from the conversation completley because argueing about this stuff will go nowere in the end.

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Koalakommander

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you are on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

I did not say i enjoyed repeated and identical battles. That is never a good thing. Again with your amazing open-mindedness. :roll:

Nor did i insult you or call you narrow minded. Do you always get this upset when somebody disagrees with you? Honestly, i dont know if you think your word is final or whatever but the whole purpose of a FORUM is to DISCUSS things. If you're going to take such personal offense every time somebody disagrees with you and start making patronising comments heck; the internet aint for you.

:roll:

As many have said now; halo 2 wasn't great. It should have been a lot better. It was by no means awful however. And your absolute refusal to discuss anything which outside of your own numerous, often petty complaints is simply further evidence that this is not an open-minded approach at all but rather a person who wants to make a "I think halo sucks thread" and isn't willing to hear a damn thing otherwise.

You're three years late. Trust me, it's been done.

Ninja-Vox

You sound much less hostile now...

Anyways, you blatently implied that I was narrow-minded, called my opinions petty and labeled my thread as "whining." Why? Because you didn't agree with my statements. I am not refusing to discuss anything different from my views, as we have been discussing the topic for quite some time. Will your views change mine? No, there is no possible way you can make me think. "Oh, nevermind, I actually did have a lot of fun with Halo 2." You can however, enlighten me on why others find positives in what I found negatives.

For example, I now know that the squadmate thing can be considered a good addition to the game, even though I personally didn't enjoy that. I thank you for that knowledge. However, you don't always have to sound so hostile in your posts.

Why did I get defensive at first with your initial post towards me? Simple. You were hostile in my honest opinion, so I felt the need to defend my views more strongly.

But it looks like were in the clear now right?

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Spartan_024

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you are on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

That's exactly what i said! So many people do it here. Make it look as if you're actually quite happy to like the game but you just have some complaints, but it always emerges that really your thread is just a bash-a-thon as whenever someone says something good about the game he feels the need to immediately rebut it as false.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Spartan_024

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

No no and no. I am really sorry you took it that way. Listen, it's a personal thing really. I never play the games I see my younger brother play, simply because it's a turn off. It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. I approached Halo 2 with open arms, and I found it boring. I had already played and loved Halo, so how could I not expect good things from Halo 2?

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Ninja-Vox

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you are on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

That's exactly what i said! So many people do it here. Make it look as if you're actually quite happy to like the game but you just have some complaints, but it always emerges that really your thread is just a bash-a-thon as whenever someone says something good about the game he feels the need to immediately rebut it as false.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Spartan_024"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Spartan_024

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you are on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

That's exactly what i said! So many people do it here. Make it look as if you're actually quite happy to like the game but you just have some complaints, but it always emerges that really your thread is just a bash-a-thon as whenever someone says something good about the game he feels the need to immediately rebut it as false.

You took it in the worst way possible, I am sorry you feel that way.

Yeah this is subtle Halo 2 bashing. Seen it in real life, seen it on other forums, so yeah. It's nothing new TC. You can keep up the facade; doesn't mean I'm taking the bait.

Anyway Bungie admitted they fell short with Halo 2's single player. I thought so as well. It's a decent ride, but nothing compared to the first one. Story's good. Storytelling sucks.

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"]I find it hard to believe that you had Halo 2 since its release but haven't touched the campaign at all. I mean you didn't even try for at least an hour? I mean we gamers spend $50 on game to play it and actually get the most out of it. I just can't believe that you waited 3 long years to play the campaign.Koalakommander

My younger 9 year old brother was always playing it. I had just gotten Half-Life 2 then, and was busy with other games. For some reason I was never interested in starting a single-player game on Halo 2. There is something about watching a 9 year old beat the game that turns you away from playing it I guess..

I think this whole thread is about bashing Halo 2 anyway. I just love how SUBTLE you on how you do it. The first technique you used was to gain credebility by praising the first game. You say some good things on the game to sound open-minded. Then the true objective of your thread commences. The bashing begins....but with subtlety. Complaining and whining begins. A slight disagreement from a forumite and you take offense.

Anyway, I loved how subtle you are.....you almost had everybody convinced that you actually played it with an open mind.

In my own opinion, the campaign is not that spectacular. But it is okay. It could've been fleshed out more, but it is still a solid experience.

No no and no. I am really sorry you took it that way. Listen, it's a personal thing really. I never play the games I see my younger brother play, simply because it's a turn off. It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. I approached Halo 2 with open arms, and I found it boring. I had already played and loved Halo, so how could I not expect good things from Halo 2?

im sorry TC but your more full of **** than a hog house in the south.honestly..i read most of the stuff...when ppl praise it and say they liked the campaign...ud be like "u played for fun..it was more like a chore for me..."...plz...your a troll in disguise

I was not hostile in your honest opinion. I'm never hostile. It's a forum.

I simply called BS on your apparent open-minded, honest opinion sharing which is in actual fact a not-so-subtle attempt to rehash the age old "halo 2 sucks" thread which has been done a billion times already. And it's not just "a simple difference of opinion" as numerous other people have said the exact same thing.

As another user said; if you dont like it, big whoop. Dont buy the third one. Stick to what you like. You didn't make this thread to discuss anything however. Pointless bash-fests of popular games will never go anywhere. Stick it in your blog and leave it at that.

It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. Koalakommander

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

the problem with the game was the ending. it felt unfinished/unresolved. it felt like it quit in the middle if the game. halo 3 wont have the same problem with "finish the fight" plus it will probably let you chose you character rather than forcing one upon you. they already have cheif and arbiter programed into every level for thee co-op. halo3 should be as good as halo1. halos strength was it's mive multiplayer, not the campaign.rdo

Only applies for Halo 2.

Halo 1 had a strong single player and multiplayer.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. FrozenLiquid

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

You didn't see the earlier comments of "you're just no used to differences of opinion" and "you'll learn some day..."

Not as outright hilarious as "i use detailed writing to better entertain those who read my posts...."

It's as if we're all privileged to hear his opinions. Gather round, everyone.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. FrozenLiquid

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

I was not hostile in your honest opinion. I'm never hostile. It's a forum.

I simply called BS on your apparent open-minded, honest opinion sharing which is in actual fact a not-so-subtle attempt to rehash the age old "halo 2 sucks" thread which has been done a billion times already. And it's not just "a simple difference of opinion" as numerous other people have said the exact same thing.

As another user said; if you dont like it, big whoop. Dont buy the third one. Stick to what you like. You didn't make this thread to discuss anything however. Pointless bash-fests of popular games will never go anywhere. Stick it in your blog and leave it at that.

Ninja-Vox

So I guess I can't dislike a popular game's single-player mode without being labled as a troll?

This in a non-hostile disagreement:

"I think you have it backwards, I agree that Halo 1 is a MUCH better game than Halo 2, but it needs to be reversed. The single player campaign is the very best part of Halo 2, especially co-op. The Multiplayer is what's lacking. It's so full of lag problems, chesters and really really annoying clan kids that I can't play it anymore at all."

I read that response, and put it to thought. The thread is working out fine.

You come along with:

"a) The game came out three years ago

b) open-mind my *** - you're whining about absolutely everything there possibly is to whine about

c) The first level is a tutorial; hence why it's similar to the first

d) The survival of the two sergeant's is a running joke. Johnson actually has a story to how he can survive flood infection, but the other guy doesn't. They're sort of like Kenny. Both can die in battle and frequently did in Halo 1 but they'd simple crop up again later on.

e) You'd know that if you were indeed such an open-minded gamer not looking to complain "

"open-mind my ass"

I found that hostile (I think many others would too), I saw it as you labeling me as narrow-minded (because you are obviously saying that I am not open minded in the approach of this game), and felt the need to respond--defensively (i'm human afterall)

Your definition of open-minded seems to mean that there is no way you can find anything wrong in a game, and because I did, I must be just another Halo basher. In all my time in SW I have never seen someone point out faults in Halo 2's singleplayer mode in detail. I could have simply said, "Halo 2 is teh overrateddd suxorz!" and been on my way, but I thought I'd be different and write something close to entertaining.

It's the oldest trick in the book. He just failed at it:

Step one: begin by claiming you're an honest, open-minded gamer who happily likes the series you want to bash but simply wants to highlight some issues.

Step two: make reference to older games in the series you want to bash. Say you like them. That way they cant call you a fanboy right? 'Cause you said you LIKED the games.

Step three: make references to the game you're bashing. Key level events. Characters. That way you REALLY look like you know what you're talking about.

Step four: after all the BS, bash the hell out of the game. The object of your thread from the get-go. Try not to go overboard as this will undo steps one through three. Rebutting any positive comment made about the game will also not help your arguement. You must appear willing to accept SOME positive comments lest it become apparent that you're simply keeping up a facade to hide your bashing.

He just failed at step four. He went over board and it became obvious what the purpose of the thread was.

It's the oldest trick in the book. He just failed at it:

Step one: begin by claiming you're an honest, open-minded gamer who happily likes the series you want to bash but simply wants to highlight some issues.

Step two: make reference to older games in the series you want to bash. Say you like them. That way they cant call you a fanboy right? 'Cause you said you LIKED the games.

Step three: make references to the game you're bashing. Key level events. Characters. That way you REALLY look like you know what you're talking about.

Step four: after all the BS, bash the hell out of the game. The object of your thread from the get-go. Try not to go overboard as this will undo steps one through three. Rebutting any positive comment made about the game will also not help your arguement. You must appear willing to accept SOME positive comments lest it become apparent that you're simply keeping up a facade to hide your bashing.

He just failed at step four. He went over board and it became obvious what the purpose of the thread was.

Ninja-Vox

I wonder if I couldstill findmy Halo 2 rant at Bungie.net.

It's vastly different from this one, and you can see that it's a genuine criticism rather than a formulaic commentary.

[QUOTE="rdo"]the problem with the game was the ending. it felt unfinished/unresolved. it felt like it quit in the middle if the game. halo 3 wont have the same problem with "finish the fight" plus it will probably let you chose you character rather than forcing one upon you. they already have cheif and arbiter programed into every level for thee co-op. halo3 should be as good as halo1. halos strength was it's mive multiplayer, not the campaign.FrozenLiquid

Only applies for Halo 2.

Halo 1 had a strong single player and multiplayer.

You didn't like Halo 2 and you're not going to like Halo 3. Lets stop it at that.Spartan_024

No, he liked Halo 1 so he'll like Halo 3.

But

The big question he wanted to ask us was this: Why should I get Halo 3 when Halo 2 sucked?

In that case, yeah, like these guys have said, don't get Halo 3.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

I was not hostile in your honest opinion. I'm never hostile. It's a forum.

I simply called BS on your apparent open-minded, honest opinion sharing which is in actual fact a not-so-subtle attempt to rehash the age old "halo 2 sucks" thread which has been done a billion times already. And it's not just "a simple difference of opinion" as numerous other people have said the exact same thing.

As another user said; if you dont like it, big whoop. Dont buy the third one. Stick to what you like. You didn't make this thread to discuss anything however. Pointless bash-fests of popular games will never go anywhere. Stick it in your blog and leave it at that.

Koalakommander

So I guess I can't dislike a popular game's single-player mode without being labled as a troll?

This in a non-hostile disagreement:

"I think you have it backwards, I agree that Halo 1 is a MUCH better game than Halo 2, but it needs to be reversed. The single player campaign is the very best part of Halo 2, especially co-op. The Multiplayer is what's lacking. It's so full of lag problems, chesters and really really annoying clan kids that I can't play it anymore at all."

I read that response, and put it to thought. The thread is working out fine.

You come along with:

"a) The game came out three years ago

b) open-mind my *** - you're whining about absolutely everything there possibly is to whine about

c) The first level is a tutorial; hence why it's similar to the first

d) The survival of the two sergeant's is a running joke. Johnson actually has a story to how he can survive flood infection, but the other guy doesn't. They're sort of like Kenny. Both can die in battle and frequently did in Halo 1 but they'd simple crop up again later on.

e) You'd know that if you were indeed such an open-minded gamer not looking to complain "

"open-mind my ass"

I found that hostile (I think many others would too), I saw it as you labeling me as narrow-minded (because you are obviously saying that I am not open minded in the approach of this game), and felt the need to respond--defensively (i'm human afterall)

Your definition of open-minded seems to mean that there is no way you can find anything wrong in a game, and because I did, I must be just another Halo basher. In all my time in SW I have never seen someone point out faults in Halo 2's singleplayer mode in detail. I could have simply said, "Halo 2 is teh overrateddd suxorz!" and been on my way, but I thought I'd be different and write something close to entertaining.

Oh please. Even you know you're not making any sense now.

"Your definition of open-minded is that i'm not allowed to find anything wrong in a game?" :cry:

Are you still trying to keep up this rediculous "honest opinion" stuff? Cant we drop the facade and just admit this was another bash the crap out of something thread?

You're not allowed to find something wrong with a game, you say? Boo-hoo. Hasn't my whole point until now been that the game wasn't as good as it should have been? *SHOCK* there's a fault right there. MY point was that you went over-the-top and bashed everything which was bashable and whined about every little thing you could possibly whine about.

It wasn't close to entertaining. It was another "halo sucks" thread only you attempted to disguise it as an honest, open-minded musing but failed when you went too far with the bashing and rebutted anyone who DARED say anything positive about the game.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. Spartan_024

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

Sorry we can't all be perfect people with no insecurities. It's a common part of human nature to not do things unattractive people do. I don't want to be associated with trading card games, because I'd be associated with the people who play them, despite how much fun playing that game would be. Pathetic? Yes. Something we all do, but I have the balls to admit it.

I didn't want to play Halo 2, because that would in some way, link me with my 9 year old brother. But hey, I did anyways, so what's the big deal?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

I was not hostile in your honest opinion. I'm never hostile. It's a forum.

I simply called BS on your apparent open-minded, honest opinion sharing which is in actual fact a not-so-subtle attempt to rehash the age old "halo 2 sucks" thread which has been done a billion times already. And it's not just "a simple difference of opinion" as numerous other people have said the exact same thing.

As another user said; if you dont like it, big whoop. Dont buy the third one. Stick to what you like. You didn't make this thread to discuss anything however. Pointless bash-fests of popular games will never go anywhere. Stick it in your blog and leave it at that.

Koalakommander

So I guess I can't dislike a popular game's single-player mode without being labled as a troll?

This in a non-hostile disagreement:

"I think you have it backwards, I agree that Halo 1 is a MUCH better game than Halo 2, but it needs to be reversed. The single player campaign is the very best part of Halo 2, especially co-op. The Multiplayer is what's lacking. It's so full of lag problems, chesters and really really annoying clan kids that I can't play it anymore at all."

I read that response, and put it to thought. The thread is working out fine.

You come along with:

"a) The game came out three years ago

b) open-mind my *** - you're whining about absolutely everything there possibly is to whine about

c) The first level is a tutorial; hence why it's similar to the first

d) The survival of the two sergeant's is a running joke. Johnson actually has a story to how he can survive flood infection, but the other guy doesn't. They're sort of like Kenny. Both can die in battle and frequently did in Halo 1 but they'd simple crop up again later on.

e) You'd know that if you were indeed such an open-minded gamer not looking to complain "

"open-mind my ass"

I found that hostile (I think many others would too), I saw it as you labeling me as narrow-minded (because you are obviously saying that I am not open minded in the approach of this game), and felt the need to respond--defensively (i'm human afterall)

Your definition of open-minded seems to mean that there is no way you can find anything wrong in a game, and because I did, I must be just another Halo basher. In all my time in SW I have never seen someone point out faults in Halo 2's singleplayer mode in detail. I could have simply said, "Halo 2 is teh overrateddd suxorz!" and been on my way, but I thought I'd be different and write something close to entertaining.

if you were narrow minded,u wouldve been blunt about the topicand said "Halo 2 worst game ever made".

now another thing;i can respect u dont like the game;after all u were rash about everything...fine be that way....its when u act like a fanboy towards other ppl when its a problem and it shows your true colors...not to mention u post really ignorant replies that scream fanboy

"open-mind my ass"

I found that hostile

Koalakommander

Like i said, i wasn't being hostile. I was simply calling BS on your "honest, open-minded discussion" which was obviously just a "halo 2 sucks" thread in a not-so-subtle disguise.

Give it up.

Sorry we can't all be perfect people with no insecurities. It's a common part of human nature to not do things unattractive people do. I don't want to be associated with trading card games, because I'd be associated with the people who play them, despite how much fun playing that game would be. Pathetic? Yes. Something we all do, but I have the balls to admit it. Koalakommander

Cool, so conform to what will make you acceptable in society's eyes.

That means you have to like Halo 2.

You just shot yourself in the foot.

[QUOTE="Spartan_024"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. Koalakommander

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

Sorry we can't all be perfect people with no insecurities. It's a common part of human nature to not do things unattractive people do. I don't want to be associated with trading card games, because I'd be associated with the people who play them, despite how much fun playing that game would be. Pathetic? Yes. Something we all do, but I have the balls to admit it.

I didn't want to play Halo 2, because that would in some way, link me with my 9 year old brother. But hey, I did anyways, so what's the big deal?

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

I was not hostile in your honest opinion. I'm never hostile. It's a forum.

I simply called BS on your apparent open-minded, honest opinion sharing which is in actual fact a not-so-subtle attempt to rehash the age old "halo 2 sucks" thread which has been done a billion times already. And it's not just "a simple difference of opinion" as numerous other people have said the exact same thing.

As another user said; if you dont like it, big whoop. Dont buy the third one. Stick to what you like. You didn't make this thread to discuss anything however. Pointless bash-fests of popular games will never go anywhere. Stick it in your blog and leave it at that.

LinKuei_warrior

So I guess I can't dislike a popular game's single-player mode without being labled as a troll?

This in a non-hostile disagreement:

"I think you have it backwards, I agree that Halo 1 is a MUCH better game than Halo 2, but it needs to be reversed. The single player campaign is the very best part of Halo 2, especially co-op. The Multiplayer is what's lacking. It's so full of lag problems, chesters and really really annoying clan kids that I can't play it anymore at all."

I read that response, and put it to thought. The thread is working out fine.

You come along with:

"a) The game came out three years ago

b) open-mind my *** - you're whining about absolutely everything there possibly is to whine about

c) The first level is a tutorial; hence why it's similar to the first

d) The survival of the two sergeant's is a running joke. Johnson actually has a story to how he can survive flood infection, but the other guy doesn't. They're sort of like Kenny. Both can die in battle and frequently did in Halo 1 but they'd simple crop up again later on.

e) You'd know that if you were indeed such an open-minded gamer not looking to complain "

"open-mind my ass"

I found that hostile (I think many others would too), I saw it as you labeling me as narrow-minded (because you are obviously saying that I am not open minded in the approach of this game), and felt the need to respond--defensively (i'm human afterall)

Your definition of open-minded seems to mean that there is no way you can find anything wrong in a game, and because I did, I must be just another Halo basher. In all my time in SW I have never seen someone point out faults in Halo 2's singleplayer mode in detail. I could have simply said, "Halo 2 is teh overrateddd suxorz!" and been on my way, but I thought I'd be different and write something close to entertaining.

if you were narrow minded,u wouldve been blunt about and said "Halo 2 worst game ever made".

now another thing;i can respect u dont like the game;after all u were rtash about everything...fine be that way....its when u act like a fanboy towards other ppl when its a problem and it shows your true colors...not to mention u post really ignorant replies that scream fanboy

Did you read the post you quoted? I didn't even reply to the first guy who disagreed with me, because I respected his perspective. Ninja on the other hand, disagreed with my views in a more hostile way (that's how I saw it at least), so I defended my views more strongly.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]Sorry we can't all be perfect people with no insecurities. It's a common part of human nature to not do things unattractive people do. I don't want to be associated with trading card games, because I'd be associated with the people who play them, despite how much fun playing that game would be. Pathetic? Yes. Something we all do, but I have the balls to admit it. FrozenLiquid

Cool, so conform to what will make you acceptable in society's eyes.

That means you have to like Halo 2.

You just shot yourself in the foot.

Trust me, being a Halo gamer isn't considered cool. At least on my planet. Neither does posting on gaming forums, but no one knows I'm here, so it all works out ya?

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Spartan_024"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]It makes me feel less mature knowing that someone so young can enjoy the same game as I am. KrazyKenKutarag

That was, quite frankly, the most immature thing that's been said on these forums for quite sometime.

Sorry we can't all be perfect people with no insecurities. It's a common part of human nature to not do things unattractive people do. I don't want to be associated with trading card games, because I'd be associated with the people who play them, despite how much fun playing that game would be. Pathetic? Yes. Something we all do, but I have the balls to admit it.

I didn't want to play Halo 2, because that would in some way, link me with my 9 year old brother. But hey, I did anyways, so what's the big deal?

He never would, HL2 doesn't appeal to the 10 and under audience. Unlike Halo.

Not only is the situation the same, the covenant that break into my ship are the exact same kind that did so in the original Halo. I start blasting away at the first wave with the first gun I am given - the SMG. Arguably the worst invention ever conceived into an FPS game. It makes this sound that reminds me of my cat when she purrs, and it's even less effictive in battle. Of course, this is because in Halo 2, you can hold two weapons. So I pick up my second BB gun, and blast away. As I did this, something became very apparent to me -- I couldn't see a damn thing I was shooting at. Between all the lasers being blasted, the shields of the elites I was shooting, the muzzle flash of my SMGs, and my crosshairs - I could not tell when I had killed something.

I quickly dropped the whole dual-wielding idea, stuck to my battle rifle, and proceeded to use the the covenant grunts as punching bags.

Uh oh, the covenant have landed on Earth. Let's fly down there after them.

What almost seems like a complete and unending joke, my drop ship crashes on to the planet. However, unlike last time, all my squad mates survive this crash, and we roll out. Which leads to the next joke -- all my teamates were identical to my old ones in the first Halo. Some mexican dude, some guy that sounds kinda australian, and your stereotypical black drill seargent guy that doesn't shut the hell up. Although there was a new female squadmate! Welcome to the team!

The covenant are invading Earth! You really wouldn't be able to realize this, as Earth seems to be an abandoned ghost town with randomly placed semi-trucks.

Battle! More elites, more grunts, and oh! oh! Jackals......how...unexpected. Also there were some flying bugs, which went down after 1-2 shots from my BB gun (impressive I know).

So I fought the same battle again. Grunts would run around and not fight, and whenever I shot an elite, he would jump behind a truck and stay there...forever, so I would have to run my ass over there to find him crouched down, unaware of my presence. I beat the crap out of him with the B button.

Side note - is it just me or were the grenade effects downgraded?

More identical firefights (i really liked the covenant sniper rifle though) with identical enemies. I get a tank to drive (it goes much slower than it did in the original Halo). Infact, the tank moves so slow that the creators must try to keep me entertained by sending endless waves of ghost vehicles at me. After what seemed to be a straight 10 minutes of ghost killing, I go into a tunnel sequence which I fly past all the enimies on my ghost because I was honestly becoming sick of killing the same things over and over again.

I'll stop describing that part of the game now, because it literally was just the same firefights over and over and over.

So I watch another cutscene, and now I get to play as the covenant. At first I though this was really cool.

I get to face new enimies, and I get an energy sword. It was actually fun...for 5 minutes. I spent alot of time looking for the next checkpoint, as no one ever gives you directions in Halo 2. They just kind of let you roam around until you find that door or that button. So after some more battling I came to a part where I literally almost fell asleep.

The Flood make their appearance in the game in the dullest way they possible could - there isn't even any dramatic music to help the event out, they just kinda...appear...and we kill them. I feel no fear or anything like I did in the first Halo. So we get on this huge eleveator thing, and this part drove me nuts. I think this elevator ride was 15 minutes in length (it felt longer). Enimies would appear maybe every 3 minutes, so during those 180 seconds, I would entertain myself by meleeing the floor, and later my teammates. The elevator would stop, pause for 2 mintues, and then start up again. And it doesn't let you know when it's finished, you just kinda have to look for a way out.

After that event I became a zombie Halo player. I would just walk around in a trance and kill everything with my eyes half closed. It was one of the most boring gaming experiences I have ever had and I mean that.

I'll fastforward a bit as to not waste your time. I am back as master chief and we discover another Halo ring, we land on it. This is a sick sick joke Bungie. I am greeted by - you guessed it! - MORE GRUNTS AND ELITES. I am moaning out loud when the identical voice actor behind my fellow marine says - "Chief, we need to take out those turrets!" My brother hears me and asks me why I even keep playing. I really didn't know, I was just waiting for something to happen that hasn't happened before -- it never did. After more identical skirmishes, waiting for pelican drop ships, waiting for my warthog to arrive....waiting....shooting....waiting.....

After 10 more minutes I save and shut the game off. I have played nearly 3 hours straight and so far, and I mean this in complete unbiased honesty, Halo 2 is one of the most boring games I have ever played. I will gladly stick to the multiplayer - but I probably will quit that too, because after those 6 or so missions, I am sick of everything Halo related.

Is it worth continuing? Someone enlighten me...

Koalakommander

Hey look; it's your post but with all the bull cut you put in there to make it appear less like yet-another-halo-sucks post. Funny, when you read through it now it just reads like a....

well... ANOTHER HALO SUCKS POST!

And i also question that you even played this game recently anyway. One of your complaints is that "in a complete and unending joke my dropship CRASHES to the planet only this time, we all survive."

That doesn't happen at all. Not even close. You get off In Amber Clad and onto a Pelican, which is flying at very low level above a group of warthogs over New Mombasa when a Scarab turns a corner and shoots at the two pelicans. Yours overturns while trying to avoid the blast and scrapes across a roof top.

Yet you were totally playing the first half of this game recently, right?