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#1 piercetruth34
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Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

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Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

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Oh god. "The power of the cell". Tell me this is an April fool.

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april fools:P

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#4 Nike_Air
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It's more about the devs (and engines used) than the genral hardware.

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yes its meant to be funny, but I'm serious lol.

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I pray that he's just gonna post in a little while "April Fools", if not, I will cry.

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#7 ActicEdge
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I'm not feeling its visuals and they definitely aren't unacheivable on the 360. I think I've gotten to the point where visuals don't matter to me anymore. I look at Crysis now and just shrug my shoulders. I don't think that's normal.

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lol, add me on psn if this isn't a joke. i'm parkerfamily (stupid name because master account got put on my log-in and i wanted to keep my offline saves)

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#9 piercetruth34
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i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

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#10 tcarruth
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I'm not feeling its visuals and they definitely aren't unacheivable on the 360. I think I've gotten to the point where visuals don't matter to me anymore. I look at Crysis now and just shrug my shoulders. I don't think that's normal.

ActicEdge

I'm with you. I want fun and involvement and innovation. I want gripping storylines and mindbending experiences that involve competition and cooperation. The era of eye candy has gone on too long.

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So graphics are everything for you.
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#12 tcarruth
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i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

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I disaggree. In fact isn't the KZ2 engine also available for 360 / PC - I thought it was at the last trade show?

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Killzone 2 maybe, but a baseball game? How technically impressive can that really be?
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Thats what im saying though. The show has a lot more going on under the hood. Visually I'm not talking eye candy per sey, I'm just saying there is a lot more immersive stuff going on. Ultimately we take these games in visually, so having hte capability to do a lot more on screen AI wise and visually adds to the experience. That's what i am talking about. I dont think the 360 has the ability to do certain things and games tend to be dumbed down. They might look great and on par but there is more going on under the hood here..... take the show for example the show vs mlb 2k9. Both games look great. One plays like crap, the other doesnt. I also get the same feeling with gears, halo vs killzone. I'm not saying the 360 isnt good. I had one and it does amazing freakin things, but the ps3 is on another level at this point. IT wasnt until this year and games like mgsiv, lpb, killzone and mlb the show.

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#15 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I'm not feeling its visuals and they definitely aren't unacheivable on the 360. I think I've gotten to the point where visuals don't matter to me anymore. I look at Crysis now and just shrug my shoulders. I don't think that's normal.

tcarruth

I'm with you. I want fun and involvement and innovation. I want gripping storylines and mindbending experiences that involve competition and cooperation. The era of eye candy has gone on too long.

When I have more fun playing my SNES, DSand PS1 over anything else its just seems like I have either out grown or just don't really care about graphics. They are nice but I only can awe at graphics for so long before I just don't care.

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#16 piercetruth34
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Killzone 2 maybe, but a baseball game? How technically impressive can that really be?Floppy_Jim
you obviously havent played mlb the show 09 because its technically one of the greatest games ever created.
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#17 SpinoRaptor24
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It didn't do anything for me though. There were some PS3 games that had beautiful graphics, but nothing that blew me away.
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#18 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

tcarruth

I disaggree. In fact isn't the KZ2 engine also available for 360 / PC - I thought it was at the last trade show?

No, why would Guerilla develop and engine for 360/PC also? Cryengine 3 was at GDC, which is a multiplatform engine.
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Killzone 2 maybe, but a baseball game? How technically impressive can that really be?Floppy_Jim
You'd be surprised, MLB 09 The Show looks phenomenal.
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Thats what im saying though. The show has a lot more going on under the hood. Visually I'm not talking eye candy per sey, I'm just saying there is a lot more immersive stuff going on. Ultimately we take these games in visually, so having hte capability to do a lot more on screen AI wise and visually adds to the experience. That's what i am talking about. I dont think the 360 has the ability to do certain things and games tend to be dumbed down. They might look great and on par but there is more going on under the hood here..... take the show for example the show vs mlb 2k9. Both games look great. One plays like crap, the other doesnt. I also get the same feeling with gears, halo vs killzone. I'm not saying the 360 isnt good. I had one and it does amazing freakin things, but the ps3 is on another level at this point. IT wasnt until this year and games like mgsiv, killzone and mlb the show.

piercetruth34

I honestly don't see it. A baseball game, a pretty shooter and MMGS4 all of a sudden put the PS3 on another level? No offence but I've had more stimulating gameplay experiences on my SNES. This isn't a slam to the PS3 more than gaming in general now a days but in my opinion this gen needs to do something other than boast power and stats to get me to see anything other than another gaming system unlike what a lot of people here see.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Killzone 2 maybe, but a baseball game? How technically impressive can that really be?piercetruth34
you obviously havent played mlb the show 09 because its technically one of the greatest games ever created.

I have not played it, which is why I was asking.
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#23 surrealnumber5
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you see visuals you feel things you touch
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#24 3picuri3
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you can't 'feel' visuals.

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#25 T-Aldous
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I'm not feeling its visuals and they definitely aren't unacheivable on the 360. I think I've gotten to the point where visuals don't matter to me anymore. I look at Crysis now and just shrug my shoulders. I don't think that's normal.

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I agree, I do not see anything on m PS3 that couldn't be done on my 360 especially considering the amount of time and money spent on those PS3 games.
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Yeah, MLB looks great in high definition...clean and sharp. But there is not a whole lot going on in a baseball game so its not very taxing on the system and the audience in the stadiums are lacking diversity and repeat animation every few seconds. Killzone 2 is great...its a fantastic well made shooter...but is it really any better than COD4 ? Is it really?

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#27 dayshot
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

tcarruth

I disaggree. In fact isn't the KZ2 engine also available for 360 / PC - I thought it was at the last trade show?

360 been out for 3 years PS3 only for 2 if the 360 could do graphics like killzone 2 they coulve done it in all that time and did not, it's not powerful enough to create graphics like Killzone 2, MGS4 or MLB The Show.

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#28 BioShockOwnz
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Honestly, I can't feel anything when I play my PS3 or 360.

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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Killzone 2 maybe, but a baseball game? How technically impressive can that really be?Floppy_Jim
you obviously havent played mlb the show 09 because its technically one of the greatest games ever created.

I have not played it, which is why I was asking.

1080p 60fps with amazing lighting.
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Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

piercetruth34

Both of those game can easily be done on the XBox 360. The power of the CELL has nothing to do with the visuals. You do know that right? It might take an extra Disc for the Killzone 2 game, but both games could easily be loaded onto the Xbox 360 HDD and played from there with no problems. The PS3 really isn't anymore powerful then the PS3. Games like Gears 2, Mass Effect, Kameo, Fable 2, Halo 3, etc... all prove this.

Oh!! Was this another April Fools joke. Now it all makes sense. LOL!!

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#31 ZoomZoom2490
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Honestly, I can't feel anything when I play my PS3 or 360.

BioShockOwnz

visuals can change the way you feel, never watched scary movies when you were a little? or watch a comedy film?

what are you? a zombie?

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#32 DeckardLee
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Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

piercetruth34

Get a 600$ PC and REALLY blow your mind.

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#33 Videodogg
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

DeckardLee

Get a 600$ PC and REALLY blow your mind.

Yeah, you wont be playing MLB, KZ2, LBP, MGS4, but you will marvel over tinkering with your pc settings every 5 minutes to try to get some game to look a little better.
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ps3 newer exclusives do things the 360 cant imo. MLB the show 09, MGSIV, Killzone, LBP, Resistance 2 would have to be dumbed down on the 360 imo. White Knight Chronicles will be the same. FF will be dumbed down because of the 360 which is a shame.

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#36 TX360
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MLB 09 not possible on 360 are you for real?
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#37 TX360
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ps3 newer exclusives do things the 360 cant imo. MLB the show 09, MGSIV, Killzone, LBP, Resistance 2 would have to be dumbed down on the 360 imo. White Knight Chronicles will be the same. FF will be dumbed down because of the 360 which is a shame.

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Gears 2 looks better than resistance 2 oh forrget it.
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#38 ActicEdge
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ps3 newer exclusives do things the 360 cant imo. MLB the show 09, MGSIV, Killzone, LBP, Resistance 2 would have to be dumbed down on the 360 imo. White Knight Chronicles will be the same. FF will be dumbed down because of the 360 which is a shame.

piercetruth34

Reistance 2 and White Knight Chronicles are fugly. LBP isn't all that awe inspiring either. Again, you are trying to tell me that 3-4 years into consoles with about a 7 year life span the 360 can't do baseball, MGS4 and Killzone 2? Get out of here man.

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#39 TX360
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

ps3 newer exclusives do things the 360 cant imo. MLB the show 09, MGSIV, Killzone, LBP, Resistance 2 would have to be dumbed down on the 360 imo. White Knight Chronicles will be the same. FF will be dumbed down because of the 360 which is a shame.

Reistance 2 and White Knight Chronicles are fugly. LBP isn't all that awe inspiring either. Again, you are trying to tell me that 3-4 years into consoles with about a 7 year life span the 360 can't do baseball, MGS4 and Killzone 2? Get out of here man.

I was thinking the same.
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

ps3 newer exclusives do things the 360 cant imo. MLB the show 09, MGSIV, Killzone, LBP, Resistance 2 would have to be dumbed down on the 360 imo. White Knight Chronicles will be the same. FF will be dumbed down because of the 360 which is a shame.

ActicEdge

Reistance 2 and White Knight Chronicles are fugly. LBP isn't all that awe inspiring either. Again, you are trying to tell me that 3-4 years into consoles with about a 7 year life span the 360 can't do baseball, MGS4 and Killzone 2? Get out of here man.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I've owned both consoles and no I don't think the 360 can do those games. You get out of here.
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

Videodogg

Get a 600$ PC and REALLY blow your mind.

Yeah, you wont be playing MLB, KZ2, LBP, MGS4, but you will marvel over tinkering with your pc settings every 5 minutes to try to get some game to look a little better.

Hmmm I rarely tinker with anything

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i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

piercetruth34
I agree with you. People need to start realizing the 360 dosent have the power of the PS3 is a fact and games like these 2 show graphics that are not seen on the 360. So if the 360 can produce these types of graphics why havent they?
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#43 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

djsifer01

I agree with you. People need to start realizing the 360 dosent have the power of the PS3 is a fact and games like these 2 show graphics that are not seen on the 360. So if the 360 can produce these types of graphics why havent they?

Unless we are designers or hardware gurus. We have no idea what each is capable of, so saying something like that is just silly.

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

i honestly dont think killzone or mlb the show could be done on the 360. I think there is too much going on in these games where the hardware couldnt handle it.

lundy86_4

I agree with you. People need to start realizing the 360 dosent have the power of the PS3 is a fact and games like these 2 show graphics that are not seen on the 360. So if the 360 can produce these types of graphics why havent they?

Unless we are designers or hardware gurus. We have no idea what each is capable of, so saying something like that is just silly.

I have a CS degree and am a hardware guru, so saying something like that isn't silly. Plus it has nothing to do with that anyways. Just look at the games and what they are doing. They are much more complex than anything that has been done on the 360. A lot of it has to do with the media but it's also a computational thing as well. There is too much going on on screen as far as character models and what they are doing. The 360 could possibly try to replicate these things but there would have to be a compromise somewhere.

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#45 DeckardLee
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

Sold my 360 and got a ps3 the other day. I had done the same thing a year ago and wasnt completely wow'd by it so i returned it. This time I feel differently. I got Killzone 2 and MLb the show and these are two games i feel couldnt be done on the 360. There just is a lot more going on under the hood and i can feel the power of the cell starting to take over.

Videodogg

Get a 600$ PC and REALLY blow your mind.

Yeah, you wont be playing MLB, KZ2, LBP, MGS4, but you will marvel over tinkering with your pc settings every 5 minutes to try to get some game to look a little better.

ITT: Someone admits to never having used a computer to game before.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]I agree with you. People need to start realizing the 360 dosent have the power of the PS3 is a fact and games like these 2 show graphics that are not seen on the 360. So if the 360 can produce these types of graphics why havent they?piercetruth34

Unless we are designers or hardware gurus. We have no idea what each is capable of, so saying something like that is just silly.

I have a CS degree and am a hardware guru, so saying something like that isn't silly. Plus it has nothing to do with that anyways. Just look at the games and what they are doing. They are much more complex than anything that has been done on the 360. A lot of it has to do with the media but it's also a computational thing as well. There is too much going on on screen as far as character models and what they are doing.

You know what. I'd put my account up that by the end of the gen, a 360 game will surpass all those games you listed. Are you willing to put up yours? We can end this thread right here, right now if you want to.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]I agree with you. People need to start realizing the 360 dosent have the power of the PS3 is a fact and games like these 2 show graphics that are not seen on the 360. So if the 360 can produce these types of graphics why havent they?piercetruth34

Unless we are designers or hardware gurus. We have no idea what each is capable of, so saying something like that is just silly.

I have a CS degree and am a hardware guru, so saying something like that isn't silly. Plus it has nothing to do with that anyways. Just look at the games and what they are doing. They are much more complex than anything that has been done on the 360. A lot of it has to do with the media but it's also a computational thing as well. There is too much going on on screen as far as character models and what they are doing. The 360 could possibly try to replicate these things but there would have to be a compromise somewhere.

Well from what I see both are pretty well balanced so far, and until I see something to the contrary I will take your statement with a grain of salt. In all honesty, neither has outshined the opposition.

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#48 piercetruth34
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Unless we are designers or hardware gurus. We have no idea what each is capable of, so saying something like that is just silly.

ActicEdge

I have a CS degree and am a hardware guru, so saying something like that isn't silly. Plus it has nothing to do with that anyways. Just look at the games and what they are doing. They are much more complex than anything that has been done on the 360. A lot of it has to do with the media but it's also a computational thing as well. There is too much going on on screen as far as character models and what they are doing.

You know what. I'd put my account up that by the end of the gen, a 360 game will surpass all those games you listed. Are you willing to put up yours? We can end this thread right here, right now if you want to.

In who's opinion? yours?

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#49 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]

I have a CS degree and am a hardware guru, so saying something like that isn't silly. Plus it has nothing to do with that anyways. Just look at the games and what they are doing. They are much more complex than anything that has been done on the 360. A lot of it has to do with the media but it's also a computational thing as well. There is too much going on on screen as far as character models and what they are doing.

piercetruth34

You know what. I'd put my account up that by the end of the gen, a 360 game will surpass all those games you listed. Are you willing to put up yours? We can end this thread right here, right now if you want to.

In who's opinion? yours?

We will let SW decide. I'll make a poll. Deal?

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Cow's really need to ease off Killzone 2, its just getting annoying now. Okay, we get it, its a pretty shooter with cool multiplayer that was in development for YEARS. You all are taking away from Killzone's actual accomplishments by talking about it like its the game that chages everything. A couple months ago, you were talking about how much FPS's are lame. I realize this is system wars, but c'mon, a LITTLE bit of uniformity could greatly benefit everyone. Therefore, I humbly request that cows stop worshipping Killzone, lemmings stop playing sales, and the three sheep still lurking around these parts can do whatever they want for all I care.