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#51  Edited By Wizard
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@DragonfireXZ95: I can't *recommend* it but I've been running a 360 controller since BF3. My K/D is above 1 (1.35 BF4 / 1.9 BF3), my skill and accuracy are both Div 1 and I win most of my 1v1s so I'm not to worried about any under performance compared to using a mouse. I just like couch gaming (55 inch 4k TV) and I'm to lazy to hot swap controls for flying and such. That's the great thing about being PCMR though, I get those options. Sure there isn't any aim assist but BF4 on PC has far more controller sensitivity and customization options than the console version funnily enough.

Edit: Besides, if the mouse is God, the keyboard is its ugly stepsister when it comes to input accuracy.

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#53 DragonfireXZ95
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@wizard said:

@DragonfireXZ95: I can't *recommend* it but I've been running a 360 controller since BF3. My K/D is above 1 (1.35 BF4 / 1.9 BF3), my skill and accuracy are both Div 1 and I win most of my 1v1s so I'm not to worried about any under performance compared to using a mouse. I just like couch gaming (55 inch 4k TV) and I'm to lazy to hot swap controls for flying and such. That's the great thing about being PCMR though, I get those options. Sure there isn't any aim assist but BF4 on PC has far more controller sensitivity and customization options than the console version funnily enough.

Edit: Besides, if the mouse is God, the keyboard is its ugly stepsister when it comes to input accuracy.

You win most 1v1s? Those must be some pretty crappy players, no offense. Lol

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#54 Zaryia
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@funk21312 said:
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PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

That's one of the reasons why PC gaming is "Master race". duh?

It's also tongue and cheek cause PC Master Race was a term used by Yahtzee to describe The Witcher 1's awful mouse and keyboard controls.

So what exactly is the point in building a high end PC? Star Citizen is the first game in almost a decade that might justify that.

So you don't have to play a majority of demanding games on 30fps (or lower) with a mix of medium and low settings. And sometimes even if the game isn't demanding, it will still be noticeably worse on consoles. Lets face it, nearly all games are multiplats, and PC will have practically every Xbox Exclusive. And just about all of these are way better on PC. This should answer your question.

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#55  Edited By Funk21312
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@zaryia said:
@funk21312 said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:
@funk21312 said:

PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

That's one of the reasons why PC gaming is "Master race". duh?

It's also tongue and cheek cause PC Master Race was a term used by Yahtzee to describe The Witcher 1's awful mouse and keyboard controls.

So what exactly is the point in building a high end PC? Star Citizen is the first game in almost a decade that might justify that.

So you don't have to play a majority of demanding games on 30fps (or lower) with a mix of medium and low settings. And sometimes even if the game isn't demanding, it will still be noticeably worse on consoles. Lets face it, nearly all games are multiplats, and PC will have practically every Xbox Exclusive. And just about all of these are way better on PC. This should answer your question.

I don't care about graphics, I play many retro games with horrific 3d graphics but I still enjoy them. I know that Xbox has become obsolete but I would rather play on PS3/PS4/Vita. There are plenty of great exclusives that will never be available on PC. I can still enjoy most PC exclusives like Football Manager, PoE, Stardew Valley and DotA 2 without having to spend much on parts.

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#56  Edited By Zaryia
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@funk21312 said:
@zaryia said:
@funk21312 said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

That's one of the reasons why PC gaming is "Master race". duh?

It's also tongue and cheek cause PC Master Race was a term used by Yahtzee to describe The Witcher 1's awful mouse and keyboard controls.

So what exactly is the point in building a high end PC? Star Citizen is the first game in almost a decade that might justify that.

So you don't have to play a majority of demanding games on 30fps (or lower) with a mix of medium and low settings. And sometimes even if the game isn't demanding, it will still be noticeably worse on consoles. Lets face it, nearly all games are multiplats, and PC will have practically every Xbox Exclusive. And just about all of these are way better on PC. This should answer your question.

I don't care about graphics, I play many retro games with horrific 3d graphics but I still enjoy them. I know that Xbox has become obsolete but I would rather play on PS3/PS4/Vita. There are plenty of great exclusives that will never be available on PC. I can still enjoy most PC exclusives like Football Manager, PoE, Stardew Valley and DotA 2 without having to spend much on parts.

I answered your question though.

One of the main "points in building a high end PC" is to play swathing majority of games on much much better settings/performance than the other options. All while having an exponentially larger selection of great exclusives that will never be available on other systems or Playstation consoles (W10 Exclusives). Also Total War series, Squadron 42, and Unreal do benefit from a high end PC. A few MMORPGs as well.

This isn't rocket science.

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#57 lawlessx
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Welcome to the brotherhood

Your first task is to buy and play mount and blade warband.

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#58  Edited By thepclovingguy
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@Sushiglutton said:

Congrats! The initiation can be a bit painful though, recomend buying a soft pillow to sit on in advance. Anyway my rig is getting so old now that I no longer belong to proper MR. I guess I will have to walk around with a tray serving snacks/drinks from now on. Damn.

Bad news is that all exclusives on PC pretty much suck, but you will get great versions of multiplats. And ofc Kb/M for FPS. You should go for the new Doom, wish I could!

"Bad news is that all exclusives on PC pretty much suck"

That's your opinion, I personally would say the same about most ps4 exclusive games.

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#59 deactivated-59d151f079814
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@Heil68: Steam Controller comes to mind.

Steam Controller is amazing, but I would never use it for a RTS game..

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#60  Edited By deactivated-59d151f079814
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@funk21312 said:
@mjorh said:

Congrats!

If i were you, i'd sell that 960 and get a 1060.

As for controllers, you're free to use anything but try to adapt yourself to M&K for FPS as it will tremendously impact your accuracy for good. i pretty much play all games with my Xbox One controller but when it comes to shooters, nothing can beat M&K.

@Heil68: Awesome rig! congrats

M&K should only ever be used in multiplayer FPS games. Completely kills immersion in single player ones.

.. Ah yes because controlling a character doing real life actions some how feels more realistic using a gamepad vs a mouse and keyboard.. What a incredibly silly thing to say.. Neither control scheme has absolutely anything to do with immersion.. Quite frankly that term needs to die in the fire to begin with, it's the exact same horse shit as the over use of "cinematic"..

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#61 Zaryia
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@Sushiglutton said: "Bad news is that all exclusives on PC pretty much suck, but you will get great versions of multiplats. And ofc Kb/M for FPS. You should go for the new Doom, wish I could!"

PC has nearly twice the high scoring exclusives vs. PS4 this gen at both GS and MC. It depends on what genres he likes. If he's into twitch shooters, sims, moba, rts, tbs, arpg, and multiplats - PC is a no brainer. If he likes cinematic games and.....um... Blood Borne, well yeah PS4 should be his choice.

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#62 deactivated-60c3d23d2738e
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@Epak_ said:

Master race, with that kind of rig? Pfffffttt.

Still better than the PS4 and Xbone.

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#63  Edited By Epak_
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@sleepnsurf said:
@Epak_ said:

Master race, with that kind of rig? Pfffffttt.

Still better than the PS4 and Xbone.

Well no ****.

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lol another lem jumping ship

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#65 Shawty_Beatz
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@funk21312 said:

PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

I always think master race should be reserved for manticores. They truly are the masters at gaming.

Anyway wow late to the party.

If we'd take only one system though, then that's clearly PC, especially thanks to emulators.

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#66 Legend002
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960 is not master race. And if you're not a SW celebrity like me, blog it.

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#67 ConanTheStoner
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lol you're gonna feel silly for all that Xbone shilling once you settle in.

Don't listen to the haters though, that's a good build to start and you can always upgrade. Having some great hardware is a nice bonus, but it's certainly not the main attraction when it comes to PC gaming.

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#69  Edited By naz99
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@Legend002 said:

960 is not master race. And if you're not a SW celebrity like me, blog it.

Being Master Race has nothing to do with what GPU you have or the power of your PC, not sure why so many of you think this, the people that scream about hardware and being PCMR on forums are PC fanboys, the actual Reddit PCMR has nothing to do with that, they actively shame those people.

Saying that, i'm a PC gamer but don't and never will say i'm part of PCMR, i managed fine for 21 years as a pc gamer before this PCMR schtick started :P

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#70 arad96
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Most games for PC are better with mouse + keyboard. The only games I play with a controller (I use a playstation one) are Dark Souls along with similar action adventure games and FIFA. If you're good with a controller for FPS, you'll eventually be better with m + k.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Don't listen to the haters though, that's a good build to start and you can always upgrade. Having some great hardware is a nice bonus, but it's certainly not the main attraction when it comes to PC gaming.

Exactly This.

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#72 navyguy21
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I play almost all of my games with a 360 controller.

The ones that dont have support i use pinnacle profiler to map to controller. Works great.

Some games are just better with keyboard and mouse though.

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Get guild wars 2 and welcome to the real world.

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#74 Snowywonders
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You don't need a top-of-the-line PC to enjoy most of the popular PC exclusives, I.e, CS, SC2, MOBAS (ew), MMO's (except black desert). Additionally, a lot of the smaller budget titles that release on steam and not on consoles do not really require a beast PC.

The laptop I got for uni over 3 years ago runs gw2 on high settings at 30fps, SC2 on medium settings, Diablo 3, POE, ect.

I do plan to soon get a nice pc tho to play some of my fav games @ max settings and enjoy mods. Maybe get into a competitive fps.

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#75 Legend002
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@naz99: Yes it does. If you own a crap card you have no business claiming yourself to be a master race.

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#76 ConanTheStoner
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@Legend002:

I know you just like screwing with people, but I can't help but carry on the conversation.

So at what point do you cross the master race threshold? Is it a certain dollar amount spent? A tflops minimum? What if you have an awesome gpu but the rest of your setup sucks? What if you're one of these dudes who owns an awesome machine, but still does most of their gaming on consoles? Still master race?

Are there different levels of master race? Hypothetically speaking, let's just say someone were to build a $4500+ PC. Not even counting Windows, monitors, top end mouse and keyboard, fancy chair, etc.. would that render other master racers to peasant status, relatively speaking?

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#77 Legend002
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@ConanTheStoner: 4K, 60fps. It's either that or gtfo.

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Where does a Macbook Pro fit on the master race scale

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#79  Edited By blueinheaven
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What's your next thread? All about your favourite colour? Maybe a breakdown of what you're having for dinner or how you went for a walk in the park and fed the ducks?

What in the world makes you think anyone gives a flying f*** that you're going to have a PC? Have you paid the software companies back yet for all the games you stole from them on false pretences?

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#80 dynamitecop
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You should ditch that 960 and upgrade the GPU to something more current, the 480 or 1060.

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@Legend002 said:

@naz99: Yes it does. If you own a crap card you have no business claiming yourself to be a master race.

Wrong

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#82  Edited By naz99
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@blueinheaven said:

What's your next thread? All about your favourite colour? Maybe a breakdown of what you're having for dinner or how you went for a walk in the park and fed the ducks?

What in the world makes you think anyone gives a flying f*** that you're going to have a PC? Have you paid the software companies back yet for all the games you stole from them on false pretences?

I care more about him getting a PC than i do about you not caring that he got a PC... so why are you even posting in this thread about something you "don't" care about?

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@blueinheaven said:

What's your next thread? All about your favourite colour? Maybe a breakdown of what you're having for dinner or how you went for a walk in the park and fed the ducks?

What in the world makes you think anyone gives a flying f*** that you're going to have a PC? Have you paid the software companies back yet for all the games you stole from them on false pretences?

Agreed. This is a blog post. But the Moderation in this forum is very arbitrary. Pretty much comes down to whether the mod likes you or not.

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#85  Edited By mark1974
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Having trouble rebinding keys, crashes, incompatibility issues, bad ports, big cost and still needing to constantly upgrade MASTER RACE!!! I'm just kidding. I got disgusted with it all a generation or so ago and I'm not up to date with the actual current situation and it's problems or lack of. Hopefully you will give us a blow by blow of your experience whether positive or negative without bias. Still, free multiplayer can't be beat. And the sheer number and variety of games.

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#86 Wizard
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@DragonfireXZ95: None taken lol.

I'm not here to preach that the gamepad is superior to the mouse in FPS, it isn't. However If you can hit your target, your opponent is dead, doesn't matter how good they are. Frankly, most people just aren't that good with aiming a joystick anymore, as modern games are chalked full of skill compression on console so they can keep the casuals. Good players loose their edge and mediocre players look better then they are. They rely on aim assist and that god awful snap aiming. It makes sense that anybody sticking to console isn't improving and anybody on PC is using the M&K so the distance in actual skill just keeps growing. I grew very comfortable with using joysticks without aim assist because I stopped playing console shooters like CoD at MW2 and BF at BFBC2 where aim assist wasn't anywhere near as crazy as it is today. The transition wasn't that rough for me playing on PC and I got wayyyy better. My accuracy is in the top 20% or something like that, so I don't really think it's just shit players. I think everybody is just used to such a low caliber of console player. When I go back to my friends Xbox I rarely dip below the 1 spot on the scoreboard and below a 3x K/D. I wouldn't even go back to console it's not even a challenge. Can I compete at the 1% level, no. But let's not pretend that everybody on BF4 PC (even the good ones) is MLG pro.

/Elitist rant over haha

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@blueinheaven said:

What's your next thread? All about your favourite colour? Maybe a breakdown of what you're having for dinner or how you went for a walk in the park and fed the ducks?

What in the world makes you think anyone gives a flying f*** that you're going to have a PC? Have you paid the software companies back yet for all the games you stole from them on false pretences?

Dafuq is up with you? XD. You sure do sound like you give a flying f***.

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If you haven't already, get Divinity:OS

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@phantomfire335 said:
@blueinheaven said:

What's your next thread? All about your favourite colour? Maybe a breakdown of what you're having for dinner or how you went for a walk in the park and fed the ducks?

What in the world makes you think anyone gives a flying f*** that you're going to have a PC? Have you paid the software companies back yet for all the games you stole from them on false pretences?

Dafuq is up with you? XD. You sure do sound like you give a flying f***.

Ignore him, he always talks like there's a big stick up his ass.

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#90  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@funk21312 said:

PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

If anything they aren't even second class.

In many regards, pc gaming has been disgraced by, none other than pc gamers.

Objectively - first person shooters are obviously superior on the mouse and keyboard, and derived from the platform.

Yet, this genre is for all intents and purposes, is now the domain of consoles.

And we know why that is.

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#91 quatoe
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I will be joining the "Master Race" soon too my friend. An exciting time to be alive! Just got a Genesis recently so that coupled with building my first pc soon has made my year pretty great.

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Welcome to the brotherhood.

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#93 Vaidream45
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I tried all controllers on pc and for me the ps4 controller is my favorite and most reliable. I couldn't get two xbone controllers working together. Was a real pain. Ps4 works perfectly. Just get a free program called "input mapper" and have it boot up in the background when u start ur computer. Its all smooth sailing from there. U will know which games need a mouse and keyboard. Fps games and mouse heavy games. Other than that gamepad use has significantly improved my pc gaming life.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@funk21312 said:

So what exactly is the point in building a high end PC? Star Citizen is the first game in almost a decade that might justify that.

To play games at their max capacity? I mean That's like a no brainier. The Idea of the "PC master Race" isn't that you need High End Hardware. It's that PC gaming is better than Console gaming.

Hardware shouldn't matter, but Hardware is one of the reasons why PC gaming is better than Console gaming. The Fact that we don't have to settle for what Console makers like Sony and Microsoft give us IS what PC Master Race is all about.

I cant believe this actually needs to be explained....

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#95  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@uninspiredcup said:
@funk21312 said:

PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

If anything they aren't even second class.

In many regards, pc gaming has been disgraced by, none other than pc gamers.

Objectively - first person shooters are obviously superior on the mouse and keyboard, and derived from the platform.

Yet, this genre is for all intents and purposes, is now the domain of consoles.

And we know why that is.

and yet

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If you want a friend on steam to game with look me up ultralow35....

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#97  Edited By granddogg
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@Kruiz_Bathory: I'm down with that

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#98 HalcyonScarlet
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Cool, see you on steam maybe. Welcome :-D.

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#99 HalcyonScarlet
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@Legend002 said:

960 is not master race. And if you're not a SW celebrity like me, blog it.

I think it's a misconception that PC gaming is just about hardware.

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#100  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@04dcarraher said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@funk21312 said:

PC isn't the "master race". The most popular PC exclusives can all be played well on low end machines.

If anything they aren't even second class.

In many regards, pc gaming has been disgraced by, none other than pc gamers.

Objectively - first person shooters are obviously superior on the mouse and keyboard, and derived from the platform.

Yet, this genre is for all intents and purposes, is now the domain of consoles.

And we know why that is.

and yet

Well yea, they buy the hardware but don't buy the software, an utterly contemptible entitlement exists.

I mean, I'm sure pc gamers love boasting about their about their GTX 10246, but they no longer use it for pc games, those days are long past - console ports i.e. sloppy seconds are the present....

Enjoy.