I'm Sorry But GEOW3 Will Be Graphics King This Year!!!

How many people think they'll pick Uncharted 3 or Killzone 3 for the technical graphics award at the end of the year this year? Will it surprise anyone after the last 2 years?DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Both killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 look noticably better than their predecesors... But gears of war 3 looks soo much better than gears 2?

I see what you did there.

theuncharted34

And so do killzone 3 and Uncharted 3. There are some big differences, (mostly in Kz3) I can go over them if you want, but I'll go John Carmack on you with the tech stuff :P

UC3 will be the same engine. KZ2 looks more like yellowzone rather then greyzone now and looks worse in some ways then 2 did. And Crysis 2 looks good but nothing special thus far.

:P

MortgageMan007

It's probably going to be The Witcher 2 or Crysis 2. Consoles have no chance of winning at all really.

i cant wait to see doom4, i could give a damn about rage, that sucks i gotta wait for rage to be released before i can get my damn doom4 lol.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Gears 3 does look noticeably better :? I watched the footage of UC3 and KZ3 - Honestly can't see the difference. They look great, sure...but where is the difference??racing1750

And so do killzone 3 and Uncharted 3. There are some big differences, (mostly in Kz3) I can go over them if you want, but I'll go John Carmack on you with the tech stuff :P

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-killzone-3-tech-analysis

here's the article of what they're doing better tech wise.

Basically, I'll go over the basics. Where most of the extra visuals come from is for Killzone 2 they were only using 60% of the cell's Spu's, and this time they've offloaded enough post processing effects to max out the spe usage. This in turn leads to less of a workload for the gpu.

And what the gpu can do now, is push for higher resolution textures and larger scale than killzone 2. (not too much, but a pretty big amount.)

You can see the extra scale in the video's. Another thing they did, was take out the rather ugly quincux aa and switch for MLAA. Not only is it higher quality AA, but it saves up to 18 mb's of video ram for other uses. (at least 10 mb's in any situation) Also, It has higher quality lighting that killzone 2.

At the end of the day, They optimized enough to make it look like Killzone 2.5. (akin to the jump from gears of war to gears of war 2.)

There is no article on Uncharted 3's improvements, because it's too early. But I saw slightly higher poly counts and higher resolution textures and higher quality post - processing effects.

Also hair looks a bit better :P

@theUncharted34 I suppose it isn't surprising considering how beautiful KZ2 was when it launched. Looks like a decent upgrade based on the pics you posted. I'm not really bothered about the graphics anyway, I'm just looking forward to playing the game online :) Same for Uncharted 2 - Beautiful game, so a big upgrade would be near on impossible. racing1750

I'm not outruling gears of war 3, It looks outstanding :D

EDIT: also maybe we could play some killzone 3 when it comes out :)

There is no article on Uncharted 3's improvements, because it's too early. But I saw slightly higher poly counts and higher resolution textures and higher quality post - processing effects.

Also hair looks a bit better :P

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

There is no article on Uncharted 3's improvements, because it's too early. But I saw slightly higher poly counts and higher resolution textures and higher quality post - processing effects.

Also hair looks a bit better :P

racing1750

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-parte-1-3

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-video-parte-2-3

I've got a feeling you watched the jimmy fallon gameplay lol it was pretty blurry :P

GeoW3 doesn't even look better than Uncharted 2 let alone Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 or GOWIII.

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

That's a crap reason to dismiss it. The Uncharted games still look better than the Gears of War games.

MFDOOM1983

Ciffy.B has gone on record saying he is going to destroy UC2 graphics with Gears 3. And within the past week UC2 developers confimred UC3 is the same graphics as UC2 with game play tweaks.

lol just imagine them coming out and saying that.

Some real in-game shots from Uc3 and GeOW3:

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I wouldn't be surprised if Uc3 ended up being more visually appealing, since ND has better artists. Tech-wise, they are very comparable.

^^ all of those screens are bad. :P

Better just watch the footage.

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

And so do killzone 3 and Uncharted 3. There are some big differences, (mostly in Kz3) I can go over them if you want, but I'll go John Carmack on you with the tech stuff :P

theuncharted34

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-killzone-3-tech-analysis

here's the article of what they're doing better tech wise.

Basically, I'll go over the basics. Where most of the extra visuals come from is for Killzone 2 they were only using 60% of the cell's Spu's, and this time they've offloaded enough post processing effects to max out the spe usage. This in turn leads to less of a workload for the gpu.

And what the gpu can do now, is push for higher resolution textures and larger scale than killzone 2. (not too much, but a pretty big amount.)

You can see the extra scale in the video's. Another thing they did, was take out the rather ugly quincux aa and switch for MLAA. Not only is it higher quality AA, but it saves up to 18 mb's of video ram for other uses. (at least 10 mb's in any situation) Also, It has higher quality lighting that killzone 2.

At the end of the day, They optimized enough to make it look like Killzone 2.5. (akin to the jump from gears of war to gears of war 2.)

Its ok but at 720p on a big screen it will look even worse. It already looks smudged to me.

Now that's some high res ****! :)

^^ all of those screens are bad. :P

Better just watch the footage.

theuncharted34

Nah, they're perfect representations of what the games look like. Deal with it.8):P

Maybe you should run and find a picture of a cave wall to make yourself feel better 'bout the power of teh cell(I kid, I kid).

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

^^ all of those screens are bad. :P

Better just watch the footage.

gamecubepad

Nah, they're perfect representations of what the games look like. Deal with it.8):P

Maybe you should run and find a picture of a cave wall to make yourself feel better 'bout the power of teh cell(I kid, I kid).

All games look better in motion.

That was just to show the uprgrade in texture quality :P

There were no girl gears in the first 2 games that I remember now all i see is girl gears in all the pics, seems kinda stupid.

After--- Crysis2, killzone3, uc3, the witcher, other various pc titles... then yes it will be graphics of the year!

All games look better in motion.

That was just to show the uprgrade in texture quality :P

theuncharted34

Hey, don't you go modifying my posts.:evil: I most certainly don't speak in red. Are you calling me evil?:lol::P

That cave wall looks mighty fine. Hopefully the whole game takes place underground. I'm sure it would a shoe-in for CGK if that was the case.

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I agree that games look better in motion, though. Remember when cows were looking at these stills saying that was what the game would look like...

...but in motion it looked even more awesome!

Just look at that realistic cloth simulation. Incredible.:P

console bulletshots graphics king confirmed, but let's wait for the actual game. The bullet shots of prev. Geof games looked much better than the game, so I'm pretty sure the game won't come close to it. Oh and also it won't be overall graphics king this year what this thread implies, nothing can come close to PC

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

There is no article on Uncharted 3's improvements, because it's too early. But I saw slightly higher poly counts and higher resolution textures and higher quality post - processing effects.

Also hair looks a bit better :P

theuncharted34

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-parte-1-3

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-video-parte-2-3

I've got a feeling you watched the jimmy fallon gameplay lol it was pretty blurry :P

@ gamecubepad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2lof9pWL8

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-parte-1-3

http://www.eurogamer.it/videos/uncharted-3-castello-gameplay-video-parte-2-3

The first one is gears of war 3.

The other 2 are uncharted 3. They look MUCH better than those terrible screenshots. *ahem* Terrible screens. :D

Umm ever heard of the Uncharted series??? The contenders of the year will be KZ3, U3, Rage, Crysis 2 for consoles pal...

Watched a bit and while it does look incredible, I don't see any real difference. The good news is ND have plenty of time to polish her up :)racing1750

yeah, the difference is subtle. But it's there :P

both Gears of war 3 and Uncharted 3 have plenty of time for polish :)

The other 2 are uncharted 3. They look MUCH better than those terrible screenshots. *ahem* Terrible screens. :D

theuncharted34

I downloaded GS membership quality 720p vids of those same levels. There's something wrong with the Gears 3 e3 vid. Not the video, but the build. Looks weak compared to Beast Mode footage.

See, games look better in motion, but screenshots are a superior way to judge gfx. None of that blur whitewashin' imperfections.

These are bullshots of the same level in Uc3...

Here's a VHQ capture of Uc3 in-game...

Uc3 looks great, but I haven't seen anything that puts it a step over Gears 3 by any means.

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Here's how to hyperlink... Hyperlinkin' for bums

I'm especially lazy, and fat, so in the future I'd appreciate if you link 'em for me.:P

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Watched a bit and while it does look incredible, I don't see any real difference. The good news is ND have plenty of time to polish her up :)theuncharted34

yeah, the difference is subtle. But it's there :P

both Gears of war 3 and Uncharted 3 have plenty of time for polish :)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

The other 2 are uncharted 3. They look MUCH better than those terrible screenshots. *ahem* Terrible screens. :D

gamecubepad

I downloaded GS membership quality 720p vids of those same levels. There's something wrong with the Gears 3 e3 vid. Not the video, but the build. Looks weak compared to Beast Mode footage.

See, games look better in motion, but screenshots are a superior way to judge gfx. None of that blur whitewashin' imperfections.

These are bullshots of the same level in Uc3...

Here's a VHQ capture of Uc3 in-game...Uc3 looks great, but I haven't seen anything that puts it a step over Gears 3 by any means.

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Here's how to hyperlink... Hyperlinkin' for bums

I'm especially lazy, and fat, so in the future I'd appreciate if you link 'em for me.:P

Is that from the jimmy fallon video? or the one's I posted?

I knew how to hyperlink at one point but I forgot.

I also forgot how lazy people can be :P

Is that from the jimmy fallon video? or the one's I posted?

I also forgot how lazy people can be :P

theuncharted34

Neither. It's from a GS vid. Membership quality, so that's basically what it looks like.

I'll let it slide this time, but don't you forget again. I'll be watching...

Uncharted 3 will destroy it in graphics.

^The vid above you disagrees. Good luck with that.

I'm sorry but those screens look far away from making any game graphics king TC. Even the ones that are definitly bullshots aren't that impressive. So I'm going to do what we all should do, and that is wait for the game to be released.

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

That's a crap reason to dismiss it. The Uncharted games still look better than the Gears of War games.

RandomWinner

Ciffy.B has gone on record saying he is going to destroy UC2 graphics with Gears 3. And within the past week UC2 developers confimred UC3 is the same graphics as UC2 with game play tweaks.

As a huge Uncharted fanboy I don't think I would have missed either of those quotes. For the record, Naughty Dog showed footage of a game that isn't going to release for 11 months. They showed footage of a game that is half done. It won't look twice as good, I know it won't, in fact, they said the jump would be there but not as big. It will be a fantastic looking game, even better than two. As for Gears 3, I don't like to jump on the bullshots train but... bullshots.

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, and Gears of War 3 all show noticeable improvements. It proves how blind some of you fanboys are saying that U3 and K3 look the same then go on and say that Gears 3 looks way better than Gears 2. Fanboy comments at their finest. Another thing, Naughty Dog has never shown a game this early in their dev cycle so Uncharted 3 has a while to go and and seeing how it does look "NOTICEABLY" better than U2 already than I can't wait until a real trailer come E3 2011 just like they did for E3 2009 for Uncharted 2.

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[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Ciffy.B has gone on record saying he is going to destroy UC2 graphics with Gears 3. And within the past week UC2 developers confimred UC3 is the same graphics as UC2 with game play tweaks.

Blazerdt47

As a huge Uncharted fanboy I don't think I would have missed either of those quotes. For the record, Naughty Dog showed footage of a game that isn't going to release for 11 months. They showed footage of a game that is half done. It won't look twice as good, I know it won't, in fact, they said the jump would be there but not as big. It will be a fantastic looking game, even better than two. As for Gears 3, I don't like to jump on the bullshots train but... bullshots.

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, and Gears of War 3 all show noticeable improvements. It proves how blind some of you fanboys are saying that U3 and K3 look the same then go on and say that Gears 3 looks way better than Gears 2.

I honestly cannot agree.

Gears 2 and 3 look worlds apart, thanks largely due to a complete change in colours. That alone makes Gears 3 look far different to Gears 2 then KZ3 and UC3 do to theire predecessor.

I can't see much of a difference in the UC3 vids we've been shown, im sure on release they'll be once,but as ND said it wont be HUGE.

Killzone is a different story, I can already see a slight difference for the better (Also some for the worse, to be expected with Co-Op)

But Gears is far improved over those two ... And it's plane for all to see. You couldnt mistake the two games, without cherry picking images.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

As a huge Uncharted fanboy I don't think I would have missed either of those quotes. For the record, Naughty Dog showed footage of a game that isn't going to release for 11 months. They showed footage of a game that is half done. It won't look twice as good, I know it won't, in fact, they said the jump would be there but not as big. It will be a fantastic looking game, even better than two. As for Gears 3, I don't like to jump on the bullshots train but... bullshots.

-Snooze-

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, and Gears of War 3 all show noticeable improvements. It proves how blind some of you fanboys are saying that U3 and K3 look the same then go on and say that Gears 3 looks way better than Gears 2.

I honestly cannot agree.

Gears 2 and 3 look worlds apart, thanks largely due to a complete change in colours. That alone makes Gears 3 look far different to Gears 2 then KZ3 and UC3 do to theire predecessor.

I can't see much of a difference in the UC3 vids we've been shown, im sure on release they'll be once,but as ND said it wont be HUGE.

Killzone is a different story, I can already see a slight difference for the better (Also some for the worse, to be expected with Co-Op)

But Gears is far improved over those two ... And it's plane for all to see. You couldnt mistake the two games, without cherry picking images.

Why bother with gameplay when there's beads and firewater to be had?*takes another swig*

Why bother with gameplay when there's beads and firewater to be had?*takes another swig*

gamecubepad

Sounds like a mean beverage.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Why bother with gameplay when there's beads and firewater to be had?*takes another swig*

theuncharted34

Sounds like a mean beverage.

Hey, I'm not the only one. I seen you drinkin' it too.

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If I were to discuss gameplay, I guess the only thing I would say is that I hope there's some cool co-op only finishing moves. Like throwing an enemy in the air and 4 players chainsawing him at the same time. They could call it "make it rain", or something hardcore gansta like that.