I'm Sorry Halo 3 ODST is A RIPOFF!!!1

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#1 Microsoft1234
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OK we're going to pay 60$ for an expansion that comes with a beta to halo reach, 3 new maps, and the actual game itself or expansion.

According to developers the game's campaign is a little shorter than halo 3s, which by no means was long at all (unless you're a bk), and firefight is the only thing looking interesting in this game right now. the 3 maps and reach beta id say are probably worth 15 to 20$ max alone. But I'm trying to judge just halo 3 odst, not the add-ons. You're paying 60$ for an 8 hour campaign and firefight, the only way this game has value is if you didn't already have the original halo 3 so you could play the multiplayer.

Sorry halo fans this is a huge ripoff and I dont see it selling millions like halo 1,2, and 3, why? it's a freaking expansion and tons of people have moved on from halo 3, i actually think it was a bad move to include 3 into the title, and with so many other games calling this fall I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

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#2 Yandere
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I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

Microsoft1234

Wow, nice logic.

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#3 BioShockOwnz
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ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

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#4 SparkyProtocol
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Is SW full of drones. Once someone makes a thread about a game for example, you see 10 threads related to the very same subject
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An entirely new campaign and Firefight sounds great to me, I really don't care. $60 is pocket change as far as I'm concerned, complaining about it is a waste of time.
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#6 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

Wow, nice logic.

Horrible logic. :P
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#7 wasim777
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ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

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#8 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

wasim777

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

Nope. I beat all those games in around 6 hours.

Plus it does look good. I'll take the hands-on impressions over people who haven't played it.

Whatever floats your boat, my friend.

Oh, so it's sub-HD like MGS4 and COD4? Oh well.

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#9 Riverwolf007
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weclome sw to the one hundred thousandth halo topic, boy for such a lame game you would think halo interest would just go away and we would never hear about it again...like lair....and haze...and heavenly sword and eye of judgement and killzone 2 and ratchet and clank and socom and motorstorm and ect ect ect....;)

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#10 -Melix-
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ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

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#11 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

When it is open world it is.
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#12 GodofBigMacs
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It'd be very much worth it, IMO, if it were around 40-45 dollars...
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#13 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

SparkyProtocol

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

When it is open world it is.

Yup, exploration and adventuring is a key part of ODST. I know I'll milk more than 6 hours out of it.

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#14 Microsoft1234
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ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz
Uh you're paying 60$ for a campaign shorter than h3's, and campaign has never been good in the halo franchise except the 1st, the 3rd game was trying to be dramatic but it wasn't, and firefight is the only thing even interesting.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

Microsoft1234

Uh you're paying 60$ for a campaign shorter than h3's, and campaign has never been good in the halo franchise except the 1st, the 3rd game was trying to be dramatic but it wasn't, and firefight is the only thing even interesting.

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree, though.

Cheers.

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#16 Vandalvideo
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No expansion, no matter how much content it may have, should ever be full priced as a matter of principle.
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#17 -Melix-
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[QUOTE="wasim777"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

Nope. I beat all those games in around 6 hours.

Plus it does look good. I'll take the hands-on impressions over people who haven't played it.

Whatever floats your boat, my friend.

Oh, so it's sub-HD like MGS4 and COD4? Oh well.

lol those games are atleast like 10 hours long.. If you can beat games fast, then you probably finish halo odst in like 3 hours...

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#18 navyguy21
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An entirely new campaign and Firefight sounds great to me, I really don't care. $60 is pocket change as far as I'm concerned, complaining about it is a waste of time.Floppy_Jim
Not for fanboys :lol:
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#19 Microsoft1234
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It'd be very much worth it, IMO, if it were around 40-45 dollars...GodofBigMacs
I'd say 30$ and i would definitely consider this, but the only way ill pick this is up if it gets a great review, but idc about the maps because if you're actually good you realize they won't get into the mlg playlist for a while and the halo reach beta is somewhat interesting.
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#20 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="wasim777"]

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

-Melix-

Nope. I beat all those games in around 6 hours.

Plus it does look good. I'll take the hands-on impressions over people who haven't played it.

Whatever floats your boat, my friend.

Oh, so it's sub-HD like MGS4 and COD4? Oh well.

lol those games are atleast like 10 hours long.. If you can beat games fast, then you probably finish halo odst in like 3 hours...

None of the games I mentioned lasted me 10 hours, and I went through them at a pretty normal pace.

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#21 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="-Melix-"]

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

When it is open world it is.

Yup, exploration and adventuring is a key part of ODST. I know I'll milk more than 6 hours out of it.

Hoping for easter eggs. I bet Bungie will put a reference to the Brute pimp (a old bug). Who wouldnt want to see one slap a grunt while asking for his money?
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#22 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz

Uh you're paying 60$ for a campaign shorter than h3's, and campaign has never been good in the halo franchise except the 1st, the 3rd game was trying to be dramatic but it wasn't, and firefight is the only thing even interesting.

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree, though.

Cheers.

are you serious u actually enjoy the campaigns in halo? what are you a colonel grade 3?
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#23 -Melix-
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[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

SparkyProtocol

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

When it is open world it is.

Well, if it confirmed that the game will be shorter than halo 3, then yea i really doubt that halo odst will be longer than any of those games..

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#24 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] Uh you're paying 60$ for a campaign shorter than h3's, and campaign has never been good in the halo franchise except the 1st, the 3rd game was trying to be dramatic but it wasn't, and firefight is the only thing even interesting. Microsoft1234

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I disagree, though.

Cheers.

are you serious u actually enjoy the campaigns in halo? what are you a colonel grade 3?

No. I'm a human being so awesome that I can understand that Halo's campaign is an entertaining experience. If I wanted to have a story that moved me and made me weep, then I'd read a book (which I already do).

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#25 SparkyProtocol
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No expansion, no matter how much content it may have, should ever be full priced as a matter of principle.Vandalvideo
I disagree when the expansion has more content compared to the game. Especially since ODST is entirely seperate and not like a MMO expansion where you basically need it.
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#26 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="-Melix-"]

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

When it is open world it is.

Well, if it confirmed that the game will be shorter than halo 3, then yea i really doubt that halo odst will be longer than any of those games..

So when the dev says that Fallout 3 is 15-20 that means it wont last longer?
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i guess it depends on how you trhink about it.. but I agree with you TC. I think map packs itself are bogus and overpriced.. and def not worth it. I was hoping ODST's inclusion of mp maps would be more of an added bonus then a fleshed out "feature". 60 or whatever it costs is completely over priced and way out there. I'd like to say, though, that I wont buy it.. but you never know. A bunch of my friends are getting it at launch.. we'll see what happens.

I also think it's messed that you can't play 90% of the game variants anymore, unless you get the map packs. (no ranked whatsoever i believe?)

bull *%@!!

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]No expansion, no matter how much content it may have, should ever be full priced as a matter of principle.SparkyProtocol
I disagree when the expansion has more content compared to the game. Especially since ODST is entirely seperate and not like a MMO expansion where you basically need it.

Thats not how expansions have worked in the past. Most expansions on the PC that have come out generally have more content than your average console game, and largely expand the original game far past what it had originally given. At the same time, such expansions generally are not full priced. As a rule of thumb, from the standards set forth prior, no expansion should ever be full priced.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]An entirely new campaign and Firefight sounds great to me, I really don't care. $60 is pocket change as far as I'm concerned, complaining about it is a waste of time.navyguy21
Not for fanboys :lol:

Gives 'em something to do while people like us actually play the game, I guess :P
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#30 AvIdGaMeR444
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Yet people complain left and right for L4D2 EVEN though previews of the game have indicated that it feels like a true sequel and not an expansion. Yeah, I know...L4D2 is coming just one year after L4D. I bet that if Halo:ODST did the EXACT same thing and released only a year after Halo 3, people would not complain about it. There is just this really odd unhealthy love for the Halo franchise. And this is the VERY FIRST topic I've ever seen complaining about the price. It's about time. Also, people seem to believe every little thing Bungie says. Developers usually are wrong or blatantly lie about a game's length. So if it is being said the game be as long as GeoW was, then you can probably divide that time by half.

So basically...

1. LFD2 = longer game, new features, etc, and people are mad as hell about it

2. Halo ODST = most likely shorter game, new features, and people are fine and dandy with the $60 price tag. :roll:

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Why are you sorry, do you work for MS/Bungie?
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#32 Chiddaling
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Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)
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i guess it depends on how you trhink about it.. but I agree with you TC. I think map packs itself are bogus and overpriced.. and def not worth it. I was hoping ODST's inclusion of mp maps would be more of an added bonus then a fleshed out "feature". 60 or whatever it costs is completely over priced and way out there. I'd like to say, though, that I wont buy it.. but you never know. A bunch of my friends are getting it at launch.. we'll see what happens.

I also think it's messed that you can't play 90% of the game variants anymore, unless you get the map packs. (no ranked whatsoever i believe?)

bull *%@!!

jpKNOCKOUT
you can play almost all the ranked playlists without the downloaded maps unless they're already free, since ranked requires just the free maps exxcept for doubles. and then in social welll i mean come on its social so who cares.
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#34 Microsoft1234
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Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)Chiddaling
I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced.
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Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)Chiddaling

I think they're secretly more excited for it than lems? :o ODST is a big threat!

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#36 Chiddaling
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[QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)Microsoft1234
I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced.

60-70$ for a full game? Have you been buying handheld games for the past 20 years?
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#37 ActicEdge
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Don't buy it then. Simple solution.

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[QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)BioShockOwnz

I think they're secretly more excited for it than lems? :o ODST is a big threat!

Lol :lol: The more they talk about it, the more exciting it gets! ;)
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I payed the same amount for Gears of War 1, and that had broken-ass multiplayer to boot. Explain to me how this is a rip off?
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]No expansion, no matter how much content it may have, should ever be full priced as a matter of principle.Vandalvideo
I disagree when the expansion has more content compared to the game. Especially since ODST is entirely seperate and not like a MMO expansion where you basically need it.

Thats not how expansions have worked in the past. Most expansions on the PC that have come out generally have more content than your average console game, and largely expand the original game far past what it had originally given. At the same time, such expansions generally are not full priced. As a rule of thumb, from the standards set forth prior, no expansion should ever be full priced.

Were they stand alone and did they offer all of the MP features of its predecessor and more?
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Finishing a game in a certain time can often become a subjective matter. I personally spend 1-3 hrs more finishing a game than what's written in reviews.. It took me 14 hrs to finish the original Fable and about 12 to finish Fable 2. With FPS I usually tackle a level or two per day until I complete it. That could total 10-15 hrs depending on the difficulty level. So it's all in how you approach the game.. Do I personally think ODST is worth full price? Not sure but Bungie originally announcing this game as an expansion pack doesn't give me a good feeling about spending $60 on it. Will I buy it? Most likely yes.. but I'll probably will wait for a 10-15 dollar price drop. (you can usually find good deals during the holiday season).

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#42 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)Microsoft1234
I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced.

Have you researched everything that comes with ODST?? All the maps alone is worth more than 60 bucks, and then you get a campaign on top of that, AND new multiplayer maps and modes, AND the Reach Beta!! WTF are you talkin about "overpriced"?? I think you are just complaining to look "cool", or just like complaining altogether :P

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#43 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]] Were they stand alone and did they offer all of the MP features of its predecessor and more?

Sure were, atleast, the principle applies as well similarly to standalone expansions like Colonization, Warhead, Call of Pripyat, etc. Merely being standalone doesn't excuse you from the standard.
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#44 hy4k
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halo 3 and cod 6 are both ripoffs
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#45 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)Chiddaling
I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced.

60-70$ for a full game? Have you been buying handheld games for the past 20 years?

a full game? an 8 hour campaign with firefight........nice compared to halo 3 (hte original) that had a 10 hour campaign, forge that left players with so many possibilities, theater to record you rmontage plays, custom games to play with your friends, and matchmaking..............If you don't already own halo 3 then yes halo 3 odst has great value since you get the multiplayer in halo 3, but if you already own halo 3 (and if you don't and are gonna buy halo 3 odst :roll:....) this is way over priced.
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#46 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Why is there so many Halo: ODST topics lately? I don't get it, and I only see it coming from cows. Lay off the kool-aid, the game is as long as your precious KZ2, anyway. (And yes, I have a PS3)navyguy21
I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced.

Have you researched everything that comes with ODST?? All the maps alone is worth more than 60 bucks, and then you get a campaign on top of that, AND new multiplayer maps and modes, AND the Reach Beta!! WTF are you talkin about "overpriced"??

uh the only maps that aren't free im sure is the 3 mythic maps out right now, and you're only getting 3 new maps early. so it's not like you're getting the heroic/legendary/mythic/cold storage for this price, since almost all of them are free already. and i said the reach beta is interesting but I'm judging the game itself. I mean can you judge crackdown when it first came out. "it's an interesting game but because it has the beta to halo 3 automaticlaly its a 9/10"
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#47 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Yet people complain left and right for L4D2 EVEN though previews of the game have indicated that it feels like a true sequel and not an expansion. Yeah, I know...L4D2 is coming just one year after L4D. I bet that if Halo:ODST did the EXACT same thing and released only a year after Halo 3, people would not complain about it. There is just this really odd unhealthy love for the Halo franchise. And this is the VERY FIRST topic I've ever seen complaining about the price. It's about time. Also, people seem to believe every little thing Bungie says. Developers usually are wrong or blatantly lie about a game's length. So if it is being said the game be as long as GeoW was, then you can probably divide that time by half.

So basically...

1. LFD2 = longer game, new features, etc, and people are mad as hell about it

2. Halo ODST = most likely shorter game, new features, and people are fine and dandy with the $60 price tag. :roll:

PC =/= Console gamers when it comes to Valve Atleast Bungie is not hyping their game saying it will have all of these fantastic free updates and then release a sequel a year later. ODST wont even split up the community like L4D2. Sure you can use mods made for the other game, but L4D will be almost empty, atleast compared to L4D2.
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#48 fedor19820
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[QUOTE="wasim777"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

Nope. I beat all those games in around 6 hours.

Plus it does look good. I'll take the hands-on impressions over people who haven't played it.

Whatever floats your boat, my friend.

Oh, so it's sub-HD like MGS4 and COD4? Oh well.

its rare to find a game that is not sub-HDpeople just think its HD cause the back of the box tells u but there is a diff between actual 720p/1080p and being upconverted to 720p/1080p

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#49 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

wasim777

the campaign of ODST is much shorter than any of those games

plus it doesnt look good at all

man charging 60$ for an expansion isnt good at all

oh and it runs at 640p too

what's your thought then on PD charging you $40 for a demo of an undetermined release date game? Or is it now NOT a demo but a cut down retail version of the game to be? ODST's campaign is long enough and the inclusion of the rest is just icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. Calling it an expansion in the sense that you're referring it to is in the same light as saying Uncharted 2 is just an expansion of Uncharted. Maybe you should know the facts about a game you're so helplessly trying to bash. :|
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#50 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="-Melix-"]

i doubt halo odst is longer than all the game you have listed...

BioShockOwnz

When it is open world it is.

Yup, exploration and adventuring is a key part of ODST. I know I'll milk more than 6 hours out of it.

easily.....it's amazing how ill-informed the haters are on this. :lol: