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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]how do you pretend to be a fake mod? anyway, the irony is there again. you'll see...if you're still around.foxhound_fox

that would be more along the lines of acting like a fake mod. how would one pretend?

I will attempt to not get in trouble but I am reporting everyone. Anytime someone says or does something I am hitting the button. Something tells me trolls like heil68 will not get in any trouble. But if I say something like "Wow, Killer Instinct looks great!" AI am getting a 7 day suspension.....Oh it will happen. I am certain.
Well off to try and talk about games in System Wars..............wish me luck! 

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! You look at those posts and are BAFFLED as to how it's BS? The fact the guy I quoted was continuously in that same thread doing the same BS for no reason? What kind of deluded piece of crap are you? This forum is screwed. Are is reading not a strong suit of yours? Need help with the words?Jakandsigz

that's being nice?

:lol: Glorious! 

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"] They definitely do and Jakandsigz can clearly see in his mod history the post that got him his first strike and I would be baffled if he is honestly confused as to why it merited one. CaseyWegner

oh. wait. was that just the pm you got? did you check your mod history? that's where the details are.

You are treading thin ice...cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"] You are treading thin ice...CaseyWegner

that's being nice?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] I just looked it up again and I did not see a link telling me why I was modded. And I really don't care to be honest. You all have let the trolls run wild for so long all the good posters are bound to get banned anyways.timbers_WSU

oh. wait. was that just the pm you got? did you check your mod history? that's where the details are.

you should check your mod history.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] I'm sorry, so you won't be kind enough to show me where I got modded for with good reason? Ok fine, can you give me a link to someone who would please? I mean I am asking you nicely. I mean what is the point of being told I can appeal or have someone check on the moderation, if when i did so I am on thin ice at someones discretionary? So again, just being very nice here, someone to help me understand, how my mod was relevant.Jakandsigz

that's being nice?

"BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of deluded piece of crap are you? Are is reading not a strong suit of yours? Need help with the words?"

really?

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

that's being nice?

CaseyWegner

"BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of deluded piece of crap are you? Are is reading not a strong suit of yours? Need help with the words?"

really?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Nicer than his post. Jakandsigz

"BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of deluded piece of crap are you? Are is reading not a strong suit of yours? Need help with the words?"

really?

i didn't twist anything.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]what does calling somebody an idiot really accomplish? i agree about the old trolling rules but this new system is better.foxhound_fox

Hate to say it, been here since 2005 and this is the first time I highly agree with Fox on something. The new ToU goes in favor with people who troll and they know they can get away with it cause no one can say anything about it cause they'll get MODDED while trolls get off scott free.

This new ToU is just a ball gag, it does NOTHING to help the community to get better, in fact it just makes it worse.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]what does calling somebody an idiot really accomplish? i agree about the old trolling rules but this new system is better.Ballroompirate

Hate to say it, been here since 2005 and this is the first time I highly agree with Fox on something. The new ToU goes in favor with people who troll and they know they can get away with it cause no one can say anything about it cause they'll get MODDED while trolls get off scott free.

This new ToU is just a ball gag, it does NOTHING to help the community to get better, in fact it just makes it worse.

i still don't see what calling somebody an idiot accomplishes...especially if they're trolling.

is it going to stop them from being an idiot?

is it going to stop them from being an idiot?

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

is it going to stop them from being an idiot?

foxhound_fox

then what does it accomplish?

Fox I am not modding you but please dont flame people, especially in this thread.

is it going to stop them from being an idiot?

CaseyWegner

Actually it does or at least proves their "claims" are wrong.

Also to play this pathetic game of cat and mouse, is the new ToU gonna make the website/community better, do you have proof it will work? or is it just some yolo attempt to try and make the site "better" w/o actually looking at what's making the site fall apart when we literally tell you and show you what needs to be fixed.

Fox I am not modding you but please dont flame people, especially in this thread.

cakeorrdeath

Interesting, the new rules have been in place for eight days and Gamespot hasn't imploded. Although, when one goes to poo quickly, is quickly in the span of months, years, or decades?Stevo_the_gamer

Interesting, the new rules have been in place for eight days and Gamespot hasn't imploded. Although, when one goes to poo quickly, is quickly in the span of months, years, or decades?Stevo_the_gamer

Doesn't need to implode when people are leaving or looking at other sites to post on, hell some long time posters are already starting to not really post here.

Also I'd say the reaction towards the new ToU and GS layout is far from positive so I'd layoff w/e you're doing to make you think nothing is going down hill on this site.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

is it going to stop them from being an idiot?

Ballroompirate

Actually it does or at least proves their "claims" are wrong.

Also to play this pathetic game of cat and mouse, is the new ToU gonna make the website/community better, do you have proof it will work? or is it just some yolo attempt to try and make the site "better" w/o actually looking at what's making the site fall apart when we literally tell you and show you what needs to be fixed.

calling somebody an idiot proves their claims wrong?

were you here for the tou that came before the previous one? it was harsher yet the forum was still very popular. then the rules changed to become more lenient and it brought about more complaints than anything else. there were so many complaints that a special meeting was called and plans were made to change the rules less than two years after implementing the lenient rules. do i have proof that it'll work? of course not. it's impossible to prove whether it will work but if a more strict tou didn't kill the forum, why would a less strict tou kill it? long-time posters left when the lenient rules were introduced but the forum survived. it'll survive again and attract people that may have been put off by the cesspool that was created.

Interesting, the new rules have been in place for eight days and Gamespot hasn't imploded. Although, when one goes to poo quickly, is quickly in the span of months, years, or decades?Stevo_the_gamer

The site won't turn to shit with a bang, it'll be a much more subtle and silent process, with people leaving, or becoming more and more scared of openly expressing their thoughts, knowing it could easily get them moderated because of something as vague as a mod having a bad day.

To make it clear, I'm not against this new ToU because I desperately want to be able to insult people (see my (Rocker's) posting history, and you'll see I don't make insults a habit), I'm against it because it'll squash that general SW attitude where you know you can openly express yourself about anything, without having to sugar-coat it. I haven't been posting in the old, "Casey's" ToU that everyone hated, I'm only used to this lenient model which works great, as far as I'm concerned.

The site won't turn to shit with a bang, it'll be a much more subtle and silent process, with people leaving, or becoming more and more scared of openly expressing their thoughts, knowing it could easily get them moderated because of something as vague as a mod having a bad day.

NameIess_One

It really won't happen. If you trully think it will, i don't think you can imagine how restrictive and straight up bullshit the old ToU was, and the community flourished under that. 

To put things into perspective, under "Casey's" old ToU my account received messages notifying me of warnings, the usual point loss, 1 day - 3 day suspensions because of trolling, obscure shit like 'disruptive posting' that's solely in the eye of the beholder, far more subtle insults than what we've become used to now, and so on, at least twice a week, usually three times a week.

Shit, i'd get a point loss for writting the word 'shit' right now, no joke, and no exaggeration (hell, anyone from the staff can probably check my moderation history to be sure i'm not exaggerating).

As for this new 'new' ToU.. i haven't even gotten a warning yet. I wouldn't have known about the existence of this 'new' ToU if i wouldn't have read this thread. And i sure as fvck ain't no saint or the perfect picture of civilized behavior/courtesy. 

okay. why are we calling the older tou "casey's tou" now?

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Fox I am not modding you but please dont flame people, especially in this thread.

foxhound_fox

wow there's a lot of whining going on in here

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Interesting, the new rules have been in place for eight days and Gamespot hasn't imploded. Although, when one goes to poo quickly, is quickly in the span of months, years, or decades?NameIess_One

The site won't turn to shit with a bang, it'll be a much more subtle and silent process, with people leaving, or becoming more and more scared of openly expressing their thoughts, knowing it could easily get them moderated because of something as vague as a mod having a bad day.

To make it clear, I'm not against this new ToU because I desperately want to be able to insult people (see my (Rocker's) posting history, and you'll see I don't make insults a habit), I'm against it because it'll squash that general SW attitude where you know you can openly express yourself about anything, without having to sugar-coat it. I haven't been posting in the old, "Casey's" ToU that everyone hated, I'm only used to this lenient model which works great, as far as I'm concerned.

You can still openly discuss practically anything. You won't get slapped with trolling moderations left and right like in the past because you made a disparaging comment about the Wii U or 360. Basically, keep a cool head and not turn to personal insults and you'll be fine. "The Xbox is trash because XBL sucks and costs money." Fine. "The Xbox is trash because XBL sucks and costs money and everyone that pays for this is stupid as hell." Not fine.

The best summary I can provide is simply... keep it classy.

okay. why are we calling the older tou "casey's tou" now?

CaseyWegner

It was just a minor pun on my part, every time someone brings up that old ToU, doesn't take long before you're mentioned as well. Didn't mean anything by it! :P

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As for Lucianu and Stevo, will respond later, in a bit of a rush now...

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Interesting, the new rules have been in place for eight days and Gamespot hasn't imploded. Although, when one goes to poo quickly, is quickly in the span of months, years, or decades?Stevo_the_gamer

The site won't turn to shit with a bang, it'll be a much more subtle and silent process, with people leaving, or becoming more and more scared of openly expressing their thoughts, knowing it could easily get them moderated because of something as vague as a mod having a bad day.

To make it clear, I'm not against this new ToU because I desperately want to be able to insult people (see my (Rocker's) posting history, and you'll see I don't make insults a habit), I'm against it because it'll squash that general SW attitude where you know you can openly express yourself about anything, without having to sugar-coat it. I haven't been posting in the old, "Casey's" ToU that everyone hated, I'm only used to this lenient model which works great, as far as I'm concerned.

You can still openly discuss practically anything. You won't get slapped with trolling moderations left and right like in the past because you made a disparaging comment about the Wii U or 360. Basically, keep a cool head and not turn to personal insults and you'll be fine. "The Xbox is trash because XBL sucks and costs money." Fine. "The Xbox is trash because XBL sucks and costs money and everyone that pays for this is stupid as hell." Not fine.

The best summary I can provide is simply... keep it classy.

I just hope when the site changes it isn't like what happened at GT. After the site changed the forums basically died in a few months.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

okay. why are we calling the older tou "casey's tou" now?

NameIess_One

It was just a minor pun on my part, every time someone brings up that old ToU, doesn't take long before you're mentioned as well. Didn't mean anything by it! :P

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As for Lucianu and Stevo, will respond later, in a bit of a rush now...

it was kind of funny.

it was kind of funny.

CaseyWegner

It's the easiest way to differentiate it from the ... old, newer ToU, and the current, new ToU. 

Casey's old ToU it is. 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it was kind of funny.

Lucianu

It's the easiest way to differentiate it from the ... old, newer ToU, and the current, new ToU. 

Casey's old ToU it is. 

i didn't even like that tou. :(

Also mods can just give you 3 infractions all at once, which would get you banned forever without actually ever getting a fair warning...Alessandro_R

We can see your mod history and see if a strike was given.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it was kind of funny.

Lucianu

It's the easiest way to differentiate it from the ... old, newer ToU, and the current, new ToU. 

Casey's old ToU it is. 

Casey never wrote a TOU. He did have a guide on how not to get moderated.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it was kind of funny.

verbtex

It's the easiest way to differentiate it from the ... old, newer ToU, and the current, new ToU. 

Casey's old ToU it is. 

Casey never wrote a TOU. He did have a guide on how not to get moderated.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

The site won't turn to shit with a bang, it'll be a much more subtle and silent process, with people leaving, or becoming more and more scared of openly expressing their thoughts, knowing it could easily get them moderated because of something as vague as a mod having a bad day.

Lucianu

It really won't happen. If you trully think it will, i don't think you can imagine how restrictive and straight up bullshit the old ToU was, and the community flourished under that. 

To put things into perspective, under "Casey's" old ToU my account received messages notifying me of warnings, the usual point loss, 1 day - 3 day suspensions because of trolling, obscure shit like 'disruptive posting' that's solely in the eye of the beholder, far more subtle insults than what we've become used to now, and so on, at least twice a week, usually three times a week.

Shit, i'd get a point loss for writting the word 'shit' right now, no joke, and no exaggeration (hell, anyone from the staff can probably check my moderation history to be sure i'm not exaggerating).

As for this new 'new' ToU.. i haven't even gotten a warning yet. I wouldn't have known about the existence of this 'new' ToU if i wouldn't have read this thread. And i sure as fvck ain't no saint or the perfect picture of civilized behavior/courtesy. 

It was that bad?

But then again, I'd argue this new ToU is even more strict, due to the 3 strike policy. Sure, the rules itself may be more leniently written, but those punishments sound troublesome, since "hate speech" is a pretty wide term that can be rather dangerous when moderations are subjectively handled.

The biggest issue I see here is, when you net a first warning, even by accident, it's easy to get an impression you're threading on thin ice, which leads to a more tame posting style. There's no reason why "basic" insults shouldn't be allowed, nothing about this place says anything about "friendly posting environment", even the board title and the description make it very clear a thick skin is required if you want to "survive" SW.