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I am not seeing that is happening.Just about everything was deleted, only, since I guess mods were busy all over the site, they couldn't get to all of it immediately.
I'm fully in support of strict punishments regarding legitimate hate speech, but posters getting in trouble because of normal SW attitude sucks, plain and simple.
NameIess_One
[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]I am not seeing that is happening.Just about everything was deleted, only, since I guess mods were busy all over the site, they couldn't get to all of it immediately.
I'm fully in support of strict punishments regarding legitimate hate speech, but posters getting in trouble because of normal SW attitude sucks, plain and simple.
cakeorrdeath
Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.
Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.cakeorrdeathUnder these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck.
If thats the case then is does sound like we may have moved back towards the old terms of use. Would be interested in what the moderator community had to say about it on the ask the mods board.Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.
NameIess_One
[QUOTE="clyde46"] Well, look at the people who are commenting and then again this is the internet. If you start crying because your feelings are hurt then you're in the wrong place. cakeorrdeathTotally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.
In many cases, I'd agree. But when we're talking about a board called System Wars, I don't.
You post here at your own risk, there's always a dose of hostility here, many of us enjoy it, and if you can't take that, find a more friendly environment, like the PGD board.
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.foxhound_foxUnder these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck. To me the announcement didn't indicate they were moderating for that kind of stuff. If they are I would agree more clarification is needed.
[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]If thats the case then is does sound like we may have moved back towards the old terms of use. Would be interested in what the moderator community had to say about it on the ask the mods board. I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.
cakeorrdeath
It seems GS wants everyone to be nice boring ol postahs :(ManInFlamesPosting without deliberately trolling or flaming does not need to be boring. I think I have avoided this with most of my 19,000 posts and near enough every thread I have ever created managed to get one of those little flames beside it.
To me the announcement didn't indicate they were moderating for that kind of stuff. If they are I would agree more clarification is needed.cakeorrdeathWe aren't getting any answers because they are being tight-lipped about everything (exactly what a good "community" does, apparently)... these are merely my interpretations of what little they have said.
I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.Stevo_the_gamerWhat ridiculous excuse will you come up with?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.foxhound_foxWhat ridiculous excuse will you come up with? What?
Under these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck.foxhound_fox
i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded.
i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded. CaseyWegnerI've seen this said over and over again, but looking through my moderation history has me believing otherwise.
[QUOTE="ManInFlames"]It seems GS wants everyone to be nice boring ol postahs :(cakeorrdeathPosting without deliberately trolling or flaming does not need to be boring. I think I have avoided this with most of my 19,000 posts and near enough every thread I have ever created managed to get one of those little flames beside it. there is people that gets angry and defensive without the need of trolling or flaming,you don't agree with their opinions or prove them wrong :cool:.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded. foxhound_foxI've seen this said over and over again, but looking through my moderation history has me believing otherwise.
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What? F-bombs are censored.Hmm, FINALLY I can relax here at GS WITHOUT having to read INSULTS or F-Bombs (grabing a beer). ;)
dr_jashugan
If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75negative,follow rules = not getting banned.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Tessellationnegative,follow rules = not getting banned. How strict are the rules though. What might be seen as an insult on one board is nothing on another board. For instance, after 12 years on Xbox.com with a very high CUL level and founders status, I was banned for the next 100 years for simply using the word Fanboy. Are the rules that strict now? Also, when you post a certain way for a long time because it was within the rules and the rules change, its hard to break the habit when responding to certain people. I wonder if I should take a break from this site until RR360DD, Mems and Baker get themselves banned and I can avoid altercations all together.
If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75
i don't understand this. the rules aren't as strict as they once were. why is everybody going to get banned now?
It's going to be the same way except that people are going to think they're clever for insulting in a way that doesn't get them modded.
If people just post like like and tell the #truth, no worried, instead you can be sure to be protected from the unjustified name calling. It's all rather delicious. nom nom nom.It's going to be the same way except that people are going to think they're clever for insulting in a way that doesn't get them modded.
DanteSuikoden
Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...
http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0
Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...
http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0
seanmcloughlin
trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...
http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0
CaseyWegner
trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.
Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all
This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...
http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0
seanmcloughlin
trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.
Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all
This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.
it'll bring back more proper discussion. the details are still being ironed out.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...
http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0
seanmcloughlin
trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.
Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all
This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.
That thread has while it doesn't have the best opening post had led to some fairly decent discussion. Not the best but not terrible. People are discussing which has the superior game library etc.Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.
Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.
Syn_Valence
what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?
[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]
Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.
CaseyWegner
what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?
Nothing really, i just hate change lol , what they want to do with this website its a ok with me. Well besides the whole no motion gif thing....that sucks. Im just blowing off steam before GTA online....whenever they feel like launching it :-([QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]
Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.
Syn_Valence
what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?
Nothing really, i just hate change lol , what they want to do with this website its a ok with me. Well besides the whole no motion gif thing....that sucks. Im just blowing off steam before GTA online....whenever they feel like launching it :-(well, i'm far more excited about the tou change than for the site redesign.
If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75
When the rules were even stricter than now, not everyone was getting banned. There is a little bit more subjectiveness in the rules now, but in a lot of ways it is easier to recognize what behavior is allowed and what isn't.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.verbtex
When the rules were even stricter than now, not everyone was getting banned. There is a little bit more subjectiveness in the rules now, but in a lot of ways it is easier to recognize what behavior is allowed and what isn't.
I apologize but from what I have read it is not recognizable to a user.Likely nothing short of stricter registration and posting regulations. Which would just take away from discussion. ...which seems like what they want.Now that the rules have been updated, what can we do about trolls?
CleanB
[QUOTE="CleanB"]Likely nothing short of stricter registration and posting regulations. Which would just take away from discussion. ...which seems like what they want.Now that the rules have been updated, what can we do about trolls?
foxhound_fox
the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments.Â
the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments. CaseyWegnerNothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments. foxhound_foxNothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.
and what does that add to a discussion?
Nothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments. CaseyWegner
and what does that add to a discussion?
Hilarity.
Also, how the heck do you expect to have an intelligent conversation with trolls? It's not going to happen it just devolves into "You mad, deal with it." Â Absolutely nothing has changed, all this has done was put a larger emphasis on backdoor trolling.
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