Important Update to the GameSpot Community Code of Conduct

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#351 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]But it wasn't being enforced as strictly. I was on system wars when that GTA review came out and some of the stuff said was really not nice!

Then it wasn't getting reported. The mod staff seem to take legitimate hate speech quite seriously, just as they do threats (which are insta-bans and they pass it onto the local authorities). A lot of this "change" seems to be stemming from the cesspool comment section that they didn't really think through in the first place (comment sections always turn into cesspools).
Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#352 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts

Just about everything was deleted, only, since I guess mods were busy all over the site, they couldn't get to all of it immediately.

I'm fully in support of strict punishments regarding legitimate hate speech, but posters getting in trouble because of normal SW attitude sucks, plain and simple.

NameIess_One
I am not seeing that is happening.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#353 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
I have no idea what they're looking for here.NameIess_One
Ego-stroking power over the peons.
Avatar image for clyde46
clyde46

49061

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#354 clyde46
Member since 2005 • 49061 Posts
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]From just looking about the forums today this is definitely not a return to the old TOU. Flaming and trolling are rife, this looks to simply be a line drawn to keep out the real nasty members of the gamespot community.

Legitimate hate speech is already an offense under the current ToU.

But it wasn't being enforced as strictly. I was on system wars when that GTA review came out and some of the stuff said was really not nice!

Well, look at the people who are commenting and then again this is the internet. If you start crying because your feelings are hurt then you're in the wrong place.
Avatar image for NameIess_One
NameIess_One

1077

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#355 NameIess_One
Member since 2013 • 1077 Posts

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Just about everything was deleted, only, since I guess mods were busy all over the site, they couldn't get to all of it immediately.

I'm fully in support of strict punishments regarding legitimate hate speech, but posters getting in trouble because of normal SW attitude sucks, plain and simple.

cakeorrdeath

I am not seeing that is happening.

Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.

Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#356 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts
[QUOTE="clyde46"] Well, look at the people who are commenting and then again this is the internet. If you start crying because your feelings are hurt then you're in the wrong place.

Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#357 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.cakeorrdeath
Under these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck.
Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#358 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts

Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.

NameIess_One
If thats the case then is does sound like we may have moved back towards the old terms of use. Would be interested in what the moderator community had to say about it on the ask the mods board.
Avatar image for NameIess_One
NameIess_One

1077

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#359 NameIess_One
Member since 2013 • 1077 Posts

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Well, look at the people who are commenting and then again this is the internet. If you start crying because your feelings are hurt then you're in the wrong place. cakeorrdeath
Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.

In many cases, I'd agree. But when we're talking about a board called System Wars, I don't.

You post here at your own risk, there's always a dose of hostility here, many of us enjoy it, and if you can't take that, find a more friendly environment, like the PGD board.

Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#360 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts
[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Totally disagree with that kind of rhetoric. Just because anonymity of the internet often leads to some vial behaviour doesn't mean we should just accept it. Particularly when there is a team of mods who can actually do something about it on this site.foxhound_fox
Under these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck.

To me the announcement didn't indicate they were moderating for that kind of stuff. If they are I would agree more clarification is needed.
Avatar image for Stevo_the_gamer
Stevo_the_gamer

50077

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 49

User Lists: 0

#361 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
Member since 2004 • 50077 Posts
[QUOTE="NameIess_One"]

Ask foxhound here, last night, he mentioned he got moderated for calling someone an "attention whore", a simple term getting used around SW all the time.

cakeorrdeath
If thats the case then is does sound like we may have moved back towards the old terms of use. Would be interested in what the moderator community had to say about it on the ask the mods board.

I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.
Avatar image for ManInFlames
ManInFlames

434

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#362 ManInFlames
Member since 2013 • 434 Posts
It seems GS wants everyone to be nice boring ol postahs :(
Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#363 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts
It seems GS wants everyone to be nice boring ol postahs :(ManInFlames
Posting without deliberately trolling or flaming does not need to be boring. I think I have avoided this with most of my 19,000 posts and near enough every thread I have ever created managed to get one of those little flames beside it.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#364 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
To me the announcement didn't indicate they were moderating for that kind of stuff. If they are I would agree more clarification is needed.cakeorrdeath
We aren't getting any answers because they are being tight-lipped about everything (exactly what a good "community" does, apparently)... these are merely my interpretations of what little they have said.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#365 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.Stevo_the_gamer
What ridiculous excuse will you come up with?
Avatar image for Stevo_the_gamer
Stevo_the_gamer

50077

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 49

User Lists: 0

#366 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
Member since 2004 • 50077 Posts
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'd be happy to discuss it if Fox allows such.foxhound_fox
What ridiculous excuse will you come up with?

What?
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#367 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

Under these new rules, anyone can report someone and claim they hurt their feelings and get them banned for repeated offenses. I foresee a lot of issues. Not to mention, this backtracking is just ridiculous. They gave people freedom to tell it like it is, and now they want to stop it? Good fvcking luck.foxhound_fox

i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#368 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded. CaseyWegner
I've seen this said over and over again, but looking through my moderation history has me believing otherwise.
Avatar image for dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

2665

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#369 dr_jashugan
Member since 2006 • 2665 Posts

Hmm, FINALLY I can relax here at GS WITHOUT having to read INSULTS or F-Bombs (grabing a beer). ;)

Avatar image for Tessellation
Tessellation

9297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#370 Tessellation
Member since 2009 • 9297 Posts
[QUOTE="ManInFlames"]It seems GS wants everyone to be nice boring ol postahs :(cakeorrdeath
Posting without deliberately trolling or flaming does not need to be boring. I think I have avoided this with most of my 19,000 posts and near enough every thread I have ever created managed to get one of those little flames beside it.

there is people that gets angry and defensive without the need of trolling or flaming,you don't agree with their opinions or prove them wrong :cool:.
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#372 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i've seen this said over and over again but just because somebody reports something doesn't mean it will get modded. foxhound_fox
I've seen this said over and over again, but looking through my moderation history has me believing otherwise.

:|

Avatar image for Jakandsigz
Jakandsigz

6341

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#373 Jakandsigz
Member since 2013 • 6341 Posts

Hmm, FINALLY I can relax here at GS WITHOUT having to read INSULTS or F-Bombs (grabing a beer). ;)

dr_jashugan
What? F-bombs are censored.
Avatar image for Murderstyle75
Murderstyle75

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#374 Murderstyle75
Member since 2011 • 4412 Posts
If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.
Avatar image for Tessellation
Tessellation

9297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#375 Tessellation
Member since 2009 • 9297 Posts
If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75
negative,follow rules = not getting banned.
Avatar image for -Halftime-
-Halftime-

10004

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#376 -Halftime-
Member since 2007 • 10004 Posts
The new layout is awful. Who thought of that?
Avatar image for Murderstyle75
Murderstyle75

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#377 Murderstyle75
Member since 2011 • 4412 Posts
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Tessellation
negative,follow rules = not getting banned.

How strict are the rules though. What might be seen as an insult on one board is nothing on another board. For instance, after 12 years on Xbox.com with a very high CUL level and founders status, I was banned for the next 100 years for simply using the word Fanboy. Are the rules that strict now? Also, when you post a certain way for a long time because it was within the rules and the rules change, its hard to break the habit when responding to certain people. I wonder if I should take a break from this site until RR360DD, Mems and Baker get themselves banned and I can avoid altercations all together.
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#378 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75

i don't understand this. the rules aren't as strict as they once were. why is everybody going to get banned now?

Avatar image for DanteSuikoden
DanteSuikoden

3427

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#379 DanteSuikoden
Member since 2008 • 3427 Posts

It's going to be the same way except that people are going to think they're clever for insulting in a way that doesn't get them modded.

Avatar image for Heil68
Heil68

60815

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#380 Heil68
Member since 2004 • 60815 Posts

It's going to be the same way except that people are going to think they're clever for insulting in a way that doesn't get them modded.

DanteSuikoden
If people just post like like and tell the #truth, no worried, instead you can be sure to be protected from the unjustified name calling. It's all rather delicious. nom nom nom.
Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#381 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0

Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#382 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0

seanmcloughlin

trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.

Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#383 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0

CaseyWegner

trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.

Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all

This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.

Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#384 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0

seanmcloughlin

trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.

Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all

This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.

it'll bring back more proper discussion. the details are still being ironed out.

Avatar image for cakeorrdeath
cakeorrdeath

19079

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#385 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Didn't people in this thread say the changes would bring back proper discussion to SW? Yeah it sure did...

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29454283/the-real-reason-why-the-ps4-is-doomed.?page=0

seanmcloughlin

trolling is still allowed. it's the rules regarding flaming and being a jerk that've changed.

Doesn't change the fact people said it would bring back the proper discussion to SW. It hasn't done that at all

This is why I said Steve-o's comment about it was contradictory. You CAN'T have proper discussion if threads like this are allowed to be made and left open.

That thread has while it doesn't have the best opening post had led to some fairly decent discussion. Not the best but not terrible. People are discussing which has the superior game library etc.
Avatar image for Syn_Valence
Syn_Valence

2172

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#386 Syn_Valence
Member since 2004 • 2172 Posts

Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.

Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#387 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.

Syn_Valence

what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?

Avatar image for Syn_Valence
Syn_Valence

2172

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#388 Syn_Valence
Member since 2004 • 2172 Posts

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.

CaseyWegner

what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?

Nothing really, i just hate change lol , what they want to do with this website its a ok with me. Well besides the whole no motion gif thing....that sucks. Im just blowing off steam before GTA online....whenever they feel like launching it :-(
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#389 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Mods trying to sell how this is going to be a GOOD thing. Lol, Microsoft should hire you guys, you can spin bs with the best of them.

Syn_Valence

what's bad here especially compared to the older, strict tou?

Nothing really, i just hate change lol , what they want to do with this website its a ok with me. Well besides the whole no motion gif thing....that sucks. Im just blowing off steam before GTA online....whenever they feel like launching it :-(

well, i'm far more excited about the tou change than for the site redesign.

Avatar image for verbtex
verbtex

9196

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#390 verbtex  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 9196 Posts

Hey, my survival guide reappeared! :)

Avatar image for verbtex
verbtex

9196

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#391 verbtex  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 9196 Posts

If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.Murderstyle75

When the rules were even stricter than now, not everyone was getting banned. There is a little bit more subjectiveness in the rules now, but in a lot of ways it is easier to recognize what behavior is allowed and what isn't.

Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#392 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

Hey, my survival guide reappeared! :)

verbtex

i don't think it ever went away.

Avatar image for Animal-Mother
Animal-Mother

27362

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#393 Animal-Mother
Member since 2003 • 27362 Posts

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]If this is how moderation works now, I think System Wars should be removed completely. Otherwise I think pretty close to everybody will end up getting banned.verbtex

When the rules were even stricter than now, not everyone was getting banned. There is a little bit more subjectiveness in the rules now, but in a lot of ways it is easier to recognize what behavior is allowed and what isn't.

I apologize but from what I have read it is not recognizable to a user.
Avatar image for CleanB
CleanB

289

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#394 CleanB
Member since 2013 • 289 Posts

Now that the rules have been updated, what can we do about trolls?

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#395 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

Now that the rules have been updated, what can we do about trolls?

CleanB
Likely nothing short of stricter registration and posting regulations. Which would just take away from discussion. ...which seems like what they want.
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#396 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

[QUOTE="CleanB"]

Now that the rules have been updated, what can we do about trolls?

foxhound_fox

Likely nothing short of stricter registration and posting regulations. Which would just take away from discussion. ...which seems like what they want.

the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments. 

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#397 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments.  CaseyWegner
Nothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.
Avatar image for CaseyWegner
CaseyWegner

70152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#398 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments.  foxhound_fox
Nothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.

and what does that add to a discussion?

Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#399 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]the last tou was the anti-discussion one...allowing people to act like jerks/idiots instead of using real arguments.  CaseyWegner

Nothing changed since the first ToS. We could just call idiots, idiots and not have to beat around the bush.

and what does that add to a discussion?

Hilarity.

Also, how the heck do you expect to have an intelligent conversation with trolls? It's not going to happen it just devolves into "You mad, deal with it."  Absolutely nothing has changed, all this has done was put a larger emphasis on backdoor trolling.

Avatar image for voljin1987
voljin1987

1136

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#400 voljin1987
Member since 2012 • 1136 Posts

Oh yeah, presenting the new GameSpot

NewGS_Forums_zps2e94bc29.png

Blabadon
whaat,,, i am only here coz i can see my mikasa sig play over and over again