In these cases, Consoles are better than PC

I agree with 2, you don't gamble as much with hardware issues when you buy console games. Even the best PC in the world can have problems running a game if the platform is incompatible or creates problem, and some problems will go unforseen by the developers. That's something I run into alot with PC games, and it's not allways an easy fix. Usually there is a fix though, if not though an official patch or driver update, some unofficial solutions can fix these problems. It does reduce acessibility though.

5 is true aswell. That is a significant advantage, and no, it is not a weak point aslong as you have freinds. Why would it be a weak point?

I think the rest of your points are largerly irrelevant or flat out wrong.

You did miss out split screen gaming aswell. Local multiplayer is alot easier with consoles, even if it is becoming less common. That would be number 6, or probably more accurate, number 3.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

:?

Honestly the man made very solid points for the advantages consoles have. i hate how PC fanboys feel as if they are so superior to everyone else. I also have a gaming PC, but i'm not a **** about it.

AnnoyedDragon

You're upset that this person criticised an entire platform and people are *shock* defending it? In system war? No! Those fiends!

PC owns in every category except ease of use. You only need to know a little to play a game on a PC (namely basic functions...) but some don't. Namely kids.

Hackers are on all platforms. Community is far better on PC as well as much much more mature (as most are adults). IMO, KB/Mouse + 22 inch PC monitor running Crysis at all high settings is far more enjoyable than sitting 10 ft away from any TV.

Optimization? I'll give ya that one. As console hardware is standard there is nothing for devs to deal with in terms of optimization really other than the initial optimizing. PC they have to account for different pieces of hardware. While most games are very optimized on PC, some aren't. Either way, you don't have to play every game at max to have it look better than the console counterpart. Most of the time far lower than max settings looks far superior to the console counterparts.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

The fourth reason is the best one

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

The fourth reason is the best one

1) Hacking
I suck online anyway. Hacking ruined Diablo for me years ago, but I'll take everyones word for it hacking has been greatly reduced.

2) Optimization - I prefer consoles regarding this for the very fact that when you compete online, everyone is on a more even playing field than PC, since everyone is running pretty much the exact same specs because its on a console. The biggest variable is your network speed, which would be the same for PC as well. Summary, you get a more even playing ground regarding Console

3 & 4) Community - for party games with people over your house, console works best by far. Mostly due that consoles are more multiplayer friendly and ready. Plus, people's houses are arranged to accomodate many people around the TV, rather than around the PC.

Also, the PC is used for MANY other things, and sometimes you can't get on or its occupied for other reasons. Not to say that someone wont be watching TV...

5) Portability - non issue IMO.

I like PC for RTS games, FPS games (but I really like Wii-nunchuck if they had more games that use it), and crappy Flash games.
I really prefer console for party games and most other types.
Both together satisfy all types of gaming and would never want just one exclusively.

I didn't criticize the entire platform. There are big pluses to PC's that consoles won't be able to compete with like graphics and reliability, for example. I'm just point out the areas where PC's in some cases under perform against consoles.Zero_epyon

You're reading into it too much, the point was this person is getting annoyed at people for doing a normal SW activity.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="13Th_Gray_Fox"]

The fourth reason is the best one

Zero_epyon

kb on lap, mouse on a mousemat on the couch next to me. Plus, about the online community, steam is the best online experience available.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="13Th_Gray_Fox"]

The fourth reason is the best one

Zero_epyon

You can have a table in front of your couch. I don't see any problem with it. I use my mouse on my knee because it makes life easierand I'm lazy. In truth though I find sitting at a desk more comfortable regardless of what computer system I'm using, including consoles.

On any account it's simple enough to replicate the comfort of using a console in a living room with a PC, it just takes a small quantity of imagination and effort.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Consoles are better than PC for local multiplayer, comfort (I will give you that one), and you don't have compatability problems.

PCs are superior for the wide varaity of games on the PC, superior hardware, cheaper and more fully featured games.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="MrLions"]

Or laptops. Nothing like carrying my entire PC gaming collection in my backpack. :D

metroidfood

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="MrLions"] 5.)LAN parties....:|MrLions

Or laptops. Nothing like carrying my entire PC gaming collection in my backpack. :D

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

:?

Honestly the man made very solid points for the advantages consoles have. i hate how PC fanboys feel as if they are so superior to everyone else. I also have a gaming PC, but i'm not a **** about it.

AnnoyedDragon

You're upset that this person criticised an entire platform and people are *shock* defending it? In system war? No! Those fiends!

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

:?

Honestly the man made very solid points for the advantages consoles have. i hate how PC fanboys feel as if they are so superior to everyone else. I also have a gaming PC, but i'm not a **** about it.

You're upset that this person criticised an entire platform and people are *shock* defending it? In system war? No! Those fiends!

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="MrLions"] 5.)LAN parties....:|MrLions

Or laptops. Nothing like carrying my entire PC gaming collection in my backpack. :D

Just as portable. That is false. I can't fit my PC (and monitor if necessary) in my back pack. Too big and heavy. It is also too expensive and important for me to replace if something happens.

Maybe you should stop using your PC while sitting in a hard kitchen chair at a cramped tiny desk with no knee or mouse room. I am absolutely flabbergasted by the incredibly uncomfortable setups people have for their PCs when I go into various houses.

Get a roomy desk with a big keyboard/mouse tray and get a decent chair with armrests for Gods sake!

I've been a PC gamer for the last 5 years, but I recently sold my video cards (2x gtx 285's) and will spend more money on consoles for my gaming needs. The biggest reason is the fact that PC has NO good exclusive games on the horizon. It breaks my heart lol, but I won't deny it.TheDuffman26

[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]I've been a PC gamer for the last 5 years, but I recently sold my video cards (2x gtx 285's) and will spend more money on consoles for my gaming needs. The biggest reason is the fact that PC has NO good exclusive games on the horizon. It breaks my heart lol, but I won't deny it.Wartzay

problem with it. I use my mouse on my knee because it makes life easierand I'm lazy. In truth though I find sitting at a desk more comfortable regardless of what computer system I'm using, including consoles.

On any account it's simple enough to replicate the comfort of using a console in a living room with a PC, it just takes a small quantity of imagination and effort.

WasntAvailable

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

My PC specs For the Record:

Asus p6t SE

Intel Core I7 920 OC'ed to 3.2 GHz

2 XFX 4980 XXX Crossfired

4 320 GB disk RAID 10

Fan Cooled with 4 120 MM Case fans and stock fans

My pc is no slauch and I've been building PC's for 5 years now. I don't build them stricly for gaming. a PC is meant to be the biggest multitasker and I build it for that.

I have no real hate towards PC gaming but everything has its cons. I would make a thread about what makes PC better than consoles but I think i'd be a waste of time cause preety much everyon knows that. I just think that consoles have justs a big of role in gaming that PC gamers need to acknowlege.

Zero_epyon

1) ergh hacking occurs just as much as in PC games.

2) True yet the problem is not even nearly as terrible in PC games or else no one would play them. Increasing amount of PC gamers and revenues is a testament to this. PC gamers actually produces and releases their OWN community patches to fix games which leads to point number 3.

3) Utterly subjective issue and false, considering your community cannot produce mods or patches that can be shared with all other gamers for free. Steam > both Xbox live+PSN. :) PC Gamers actually produces their own games that rivals professionally relased games even till now. Hello COUNTERSTRIKE!

4) You said you built pc for 5 years but then you destroy your whole credibility with this. lol. liar liar pants on fire.

5) PC gamers trade portability for maximum custom options for each individual. But that didnt stop LAN parties that PC gamers frequently conduct.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]problem with it. I use my mouse on my knee because it makes life easierand I'm lazy. In truth though I find sitting at a desk more comfortable regardless of what computer system I'm using, including consoles.

On any account it's simple enough to replicate the comfort of using a console in a living room with a PC, it just takes a small quantity of imagination and effort.

dc337

lol the PC CAN be your whole home system if its built for it.

Half your points are negated by the fact that the PC can use both Xbox and PS controllers.

Heck, I think the PC has MORE options for controllers than your consoles can. The other half, can your consoles type a paper?

Nope.

The PC, as least, have that option while being able to play games better.

Exclusives is a subjective issue.

I bet most PC gamers are indifferent to the exclusives the 360 has and vice versa. Yet the fact of the matter is that the PC have far much more exclusives thats not on consoles than your 360 has for year 2009 ALONE.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

13Th_Gray_Fox

The fourth reason is the best one

The fourth reason is the one I agree with the most

The fourth reason is the one I agree with the most

mgkennedy5

[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]

The fourth reason is the one I agree with the most

videogamesdead6

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

Hewkii

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

The fourth reason is the best one

I bet most PC gamers are indifferent to the exclusives the 360 has and vice versa. Yet the fact of the matter is that the PC have far much more exclusives thats not on consoles than your 360 has for year 2009 ALONE.

mirgamer

Number of AAE+ PC games for 2009: 11

Number of AAE+ 360 games for 2009: 0

:lol:

Why have I seen multiple people claim that they have friends who max crisis on a HDTV etc? Do you all know the same person? SparkyProtocol

Who knows? But I've played on 32 inch HDTV with crysis and world at war maxed out. They both look awesome! Then I gave back the TV since my family uses it, I am going to buy another one soon to connect my PC to!

Just as portable. That is false. I can't fit my PC (and monitor if necessary) in my back pack. Too big and heavy. It is also too expensive and important for me to replace if something happens.

SparkyProtocol

So you console gamers just carry your consoles to X destination then claim that PC users have to carry a monitor and a PC? What happens if they have a laptop? Why don't console gamers have to carry over a t which is larger then a monitor?

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

Hacking is usually rampant on private servers not so much in Steam.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

Subjective, I prefer sitting straight on a chair rather than slouching on a couch.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

I can lend my friend my game and he can return it right away becasue he only needs to install the game and not need the disc in the DVD-ROM. ^^^ That doesn't describe portability :|Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]

The fourth reason is the one I agree with the most

mgkennedy5

Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

Granted. Even if you almost never come across them in online PC games, they are out there. They're so rare in the games I've played that it really isn't even a negative, nor something I'd argue as an advantage of consoles.

Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

This generation? No. Unless you call 20-30 fps "running well...."

Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

I disagree on this..I've always found the online game communies on PC to be so much better. The persistent nature of dedicated servers (a place to which people can become "regulars" and return to easily) promotes community far more than any feature of Xbox Live or PSN. Not to mention..if a game is good, the community will be around for a VERY long time..not die out after a couple years like console games tend to.

Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

You can play your PC with a controller on your couch (I have a wireless 360 controller+adapter), though it's not something I'd be interested in personally. I can't play while laying back anyway..so sitting in my nice, comfy computer chair is just as comfortable as sitting on my couch (and, playing both PC and consoles, I do both.)

Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Granted, and good point.Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Granted, and good point.Velocitas8

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Granted, and good point.mirgamer

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

bigblunt537

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

videogamesdead6

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

Read the original post. He said if he has a console and his friend shares that console he can easily bring the game to his friends house and expect it to play the same. You cannot do that with a pc game if your friend has a lousy pc. Again... Brigining a whole computer rig is not as easy as slipping a disk or case into your pocket.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

bigblunt537

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Read the original post. He said if he has a console and his friend shares that console he can easily bring the game to his friends house and expect it to play the same. You cannot do that with a pc game if your friend has a lousy pc. Again... Brigining a whole computer rig is not as easy as slipping a disk or case into your pocket.