In these cases, Consoles are better than PC

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

Thats his only point that has some merit but it is negated by two things :

1) People hardly choose a game system due to its portability rather mainly for its exclusives and system utilities.

2) PC also comes...surprise! in the form of Gaming Laptops. heh. So for those PC Gamers that feels portability is a priority, they actually have a choice, as usual.

PC WINS AGAIN!....like always.

mirgamer

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

videogamesdead6

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

Very intelligent post you got there. We should nominate that for post of the week.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220527 11.46 lbs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101176 9.05 lbs.

This one cheap, but decent video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115594 9.0 lbs

This one is decent, but sitll look at price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220576 7.26 lbs.

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.

Please discuss.

My PC specs For the Record:

Asus p6t SE

Intel Core I7 920 OC'ed to 3.2 GHz

2 XFX 4980 XXX Crossfired

4 320 GB disk RAID 10

Fan Cooled with 4 120 MM Case fans and stock fans

My pc is no slauch and I've been building PC's for 5 years now. I don't build them stricly for gaming. a PC is meant to be the biggest multitasker and I build it for that.

I have no real hate towards PC gaming but everything has its cons. I would make a thread about what makes PC better than consoles but I think i'd be a waste of time cause preety much everyon knows that. I just think that consoles have justs a big of role in gaming that PC gamers need to acknowlege.

Zero_epyon

1) Yeah , so what?!! Does make it less fun or worse gaming platform?

2) Woot?... You mean , serious developers ARENT take into consideration PC platform?? Thats why im playing COD4 at 1920x1200 at 60fps with alot other players on screen at the same time , max graphics alsowith my 800$$ rig? ( 1.5 years ago ) ? Yeah SURE!! Want me to continue with examples?.. Is not necessary i think you get it.

3) Now really , you want us to lol here?... You really compare 20 years community with console ones??? Communities that still playing online games as D2 for near 10 years?.. BIG tours as CPL and all comparable to what?... Now ... im starting thinking youre a troll , sorry...or at least you aint got any idea of communities...

4) Oh really , so why im playing at my 50inch Full HDTV with my X360 controller OR my X360 MAd Catz stick?... Hmm yeah , is not comfortable... Come on man ... are you for real now?...

5)What?... !!! Think a bit... You cant even run Crysis intro with your console can you? So plzz with the crysis example all the time. And plz... There are so many different resolutions and graphics options ( wait i thought optimization on PC was notgood ) that you can run everything with a 500$$ rig. I even complete COD4 guess with what!!! P4 2.4 - 1GB RAM DDR333 - X800pro .... a near 7 years rig... And you talking me about ... Optimizations and how crysis wont run etc etc...

You got that rig and you saying all these?? Really doubt it. It is youre totally new on PC platform or you totally trolling. Dunno which is , but m8 sorry , you aint got any idea of what you talking.

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Read the original post. He said if he has a console and his friend shares that console he can easily bring the game to his friends house and expect it to play the same. You cannot do that with a pc game if your friend has a lousy pc. Again... Brigining a whole computer rig is not as easy as slipping a disk or case into your pocket.

Play the same game, yes... but, he will not play have the same TV or sound, which can make the experience worst or better depending on the setup.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

Yes you're a consolite. You've clearly picked your side in this thread.

I shall again LOL about your MASSIVe comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-QvS0R0XI&feature=PlayList&p=7B3221E946AA21D1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0aZ4kMTH0

Who are you trying to fool with...

Not gonna fly with me, consolite.

About cost, considering that it is a miniturised high-end PC thats still a few times more powerful than your average consoles, obviously its going to be more expensive. Thats state of the art consumer pc tech for you.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

Huge? It's a gaming laptop... that could be 17" or 19", which is maybe as heavy as a console?... compare to a desktop, it's nothing.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

Gaming laptop...is HUGE?

Bwahahahahahaha...

can you console bois actually try to come up with something less ridiculous as an argument?

mirgamer

Console "boys"? I own every console and a gaming rig. My pc is a C2d 3.8 ghz 4gb 9800GT(solo my other gu fried) and I'm a console boy? Funny. go look at gaming laptops. They are massive. i'm not talking about a laptop that barely gets the job done. Most people that buy/want gaming laptops want a similar/equal experience to their desktop counter parts. The laptops that offer this are expensive and are MASSIVE. Find me a Gamers laptops that isn't huge. Example: 8600M, 9600M etc are not true gaming laptops. They barely get the job done.

Yes you're a consolite. You've clearly picked your side in this thread.

I shall again LOL about your MASSIVe comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-QvS0R0XI&feature=PlayList&p=7B3221E946AA21D1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0aZ4kMTH0

Who are you trying to fool with...

Not gonna fly with me, consolite.

About cost, considering that it is a miniturised high-end PC thats still a few times more powerful than your average consoles, obviously its going to be more expensive. Thats state of the art consumer pc tech for you.

I chose a side in this thread? All I stated was that TC had some valid points. One being that bringing a cd with you is a lot easier than bringing a computer.

The laptop you posted is extremely wide and I personally wouldn't buy it. If you also read my original post I said they are huge or cost a **** load of money. Laptops are meant for portability and I think a 8-10 LB laptop isn't exactly that great for portability especially in comparison with a damn disk. Believe what you want about consolite. I'm stating facts and your stating opinions. When you can find a laptop that weighs as much as a Cd than you can post something. Also your a ****(lol this word is PC Lite) apparently that's censored.

"I THINK THEY ARE HUGE AND MASSIVE...COZ I SAY SO!" Sorry consolite, they are not facts, just pure opinions. mirgamer

A 9 lb laptop is not massive compared to an average laptop?

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]"I THINK THEY ARE HUGE AND MASSIVE...COZ I SAY SO!" Sorry consolite, they are not facts, just pure opinions. bigblunt537

A 9 lb laptop is not massive compared to an average laptop?

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.Zero_epyon

1. Hacking has decereased greatly.

2. Depends again, if you build your comp. right, you'll have no issues.

3. Lol because it's not like the PC has the two biggest multiplayer games IN THE WORLD.

4. It's not like they make a usb controller or anything.

5. They definately don't make laptops.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]"I THINK THEY ARE HUGE AND MASSIVE...COZ I SAY SO!" Sorry consolite, they are not facts, just pure opinions. HuusAsking

A 9 lb laptop is not massive compared to an average laptop?

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

A 9 lb laptop is not massive compared to an average laptop?

o0squishy0o

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.fatzebra

1. Hacking has decereased greatly.

2. Depends again, if you build your comp. right, you'll have no issues.

3. Lol because it's not like the PC has the two biggest multiplayer games IN THE WORLD.

4. It's not like they make a usb controller or anything.

5. They definately don't make laptops.

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games.

2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware, therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well.

3) Community - Multiplayer games, in my opinion, are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers.

4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all. Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.

5) Portability - EDIT: (when I say portability I mean the games not the hardware. not all systems run crysis, for example, the same unless they're built the same way) I can take a game to a friends house who has the same console and know the game will run the same.Zero_epyon

1. Hacking has decereased greatly.

2. Depends again, if you build your comp. right, you'll have no issues.

3. Lol because it's not like the PC has the two biggest multiplayer games IN THE WORLD.

4. It's not like they make a usb controller or anything.

5. They definately don't make laptops.

Again your number 5 point seems to miss the important part... Hardware wise for console is the TV and the sound... you can bring your disc, but if your friend only has a 22" SDTV while you have a 42" HDTV... the experience is no where the same.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]problem with it. I use my mouse on my knee because it makes life easierand I'm lazy. In truth though I find sitting at a desk more comfortable regardless of what computer system I'm using, including consoles.

On any account it's simple enough to replicate the comfort of using a console in a living room with a PC, it just takes a small quantity of imagination and effort.

dc337

Well for one thing local multiplayer is not a "comfort" issue, which is what my point was addressing, and what's to stop you typing a paper in that room? You can also do the things you mentioned above on a PC. Using a keyboad is not only not any less comfortable than a controller, but also alot easier, regardless of wether you have to use a coffe table or not. Lot's of people use PCs as media centers. In alot ofcircumstances they are better for alot of things concerning media.

Comfort is largely a non issue here.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="fatzebra"]

1. Hacking has decereased greatly.

2. Depends again, if you build your comp. right, you'll have no issues.

3. Lol because it's not like the PC has the two biggest multiplayer games IN THE WORLD.

4. It's not like they make a usb controller or anything.

5. They definately don't make laptops.

Bebi_vegeta

Again your number 5 point seems to miss the important part... Hardware wise for console is the TV and the sound... you can bring your disc, but if your friend only has a 22" SDTV while you have a 42" HDTV... the experience is no where the same.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] 1. For now. I'll give an example. Call of duty 4 for PC is at patch 1.7 while for the ps3 it's up to 1.38. 3 revisions vs 7. 2. Sure I won't have issues but what about pc gamers who buy their desktops from Dell or HP? Not much room for upgrades. And yeah I know most PC games should know how to build one but not all PC gamers are as technical. You can't really claim superiority over people who don't like messing with computer parts like I do. 3. Ok but I bet those two games are in the same genre. 4. Yes there are but are they compatible with every game? One more thing I have to research before buying a game. 5. I edited my note. I'm not refering to hardware. Some people are more dedicated to moving their PC's. To be honest I'd rather move a $60 Disk rather than a 1200 laptop anyday. Zero_epyon

Again your number 5 point seems to miss the important part... Hardware wise for console is the TV and the sound... you can bring your disc, but if your friend only has a 22" SDTV while you have a 42" HDTV... the experience is no where the same.

Well if both computer are identical or above, yes. Just like you need a identical console.

You may be able to run the game with the same performance, but you will not have the same experience depending on setting... example TV, sound system. Alot of people claim that HDTV makes you game look better.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Again your number 5 point seems to miss the important part... Hardware wise for console is the TV and the sound... you can bring your disc, but if your friend only has a 22" SDTV while you have a 42" HDTV... the experience is no where the same.

Bebi_vegeta

Well if both computer are identical or above, yes. Just like you need a identical console.

You may be able to run the game with the same performance, but you will not have the same experience depending on setting... example TV, sound system. Alot of people claim that HDTV makes you game look better.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] but does it affect the performance of the game? A console game generally runs the same whether it's 480i or 1080p. The same can't be said about certain pc games.Zero_epyon

Well if both computer are identical or above, yes. Just like you need a identical console.

You may be able to run the game with the same performance, but you will not have the same experience depending on setting... example TV, sound system. Alot of people claim that HDTV makes you game look better.

Why not just tell the friend to come over to your house...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well if both computer are identical or above, yes. Just like you need a identical console.

You may be able to run the game with the same performance, but you will not have the same experience depending on setting... example TV, sound system. Alot of people claim that HDTV makes you game look better.

Bebi_vegeta

Why not just tell the friend to come over to your house...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] If i'm going to a friends house i could deal with worse sound or lower resolution. But i can't deal with framerate issues or the game now being able to install or run at all.Zero_epyon

Why not just tell the friend to come over to your house...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Why not just tell the friend to come over to your house...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

Bebi_vegeta

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Sure that's always the option but what if i'm not going for games. This will start to get off topic.Zero_epyon

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Sure that's always the option but what if i'm not going for games. This will start to get off topic.Zero_epyon

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

Well, it's the same for me then... I can't bring my PS3 game because my friend only has a PS2... it's exactly what I said....

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

HuusAsking

That's true... you'll have have the same performance, but I rather play on a better setup which i'm sure not everybody has a HDTV or surround sound. For me that's just as important.

[QUOTE="videogamesdead6"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

So your telling me bringing a huge(most gaming laptops are ginormous and cost $1200+) laptop with you is better than bringing a disk? Why are pc fanboys so blind? I'd think building and maintaining a pc would make them a lot more intelligent than your average console user.

bigblunt537

Read the original post. He said if he has a console and his friend shares that console he can easily bring the game to his friends house and expect it to play the same. You cannot do that with a pc game if your friend has a lousy pc. Again... Brigining a whole computer rig is not as easy as slipping a disk or case into your pocket.

This is a stupid argument. It would be like me saying if you have a 360 and your friend has an original X-Box you cannot take your game and play it at your friends house. Your and and the TCs suggestion that you should be able to play current PC games on a "lousy" pc is no more rediculus than expecting to be able to play 360 games on an X-Box. You make the exception that both you and your friend has a 360, yet do not make a similar exception for the PC example. I mean how about if you had a 360 and your friend had a PS3? At least with a PC you know that if you and your friend have current gaming PCs your games will work on his system, however if you and your friend both have current gen consoles but decided to go different routes (you 360 him PS3) then you cant do sh**t about it.

I don't get this portability argument. I thought the whole idea was that it's easiser to take a gameacross to a freinds house than it is to bring over a PC game and install it. I took it as a more literal meaning, which would make sense considering it is an advantage with console games. If you want to carry a game across and play it while you're there you really don'twant to have to install it, and then you would much rather be able to enjoy split screen multiplayer if its available.

Using the computing term "portability" here makes no sense here. For one thingthe libraryof PC games spans alot more generations than with the PS3, Xbox 360, PS2 or any console for that matter. You can also usually find a way to play old games through support from communities, and if a game is too new then it's because your PC needs upgrading, which is equivelant to upgrading from a PS2 to a PS3 or Xbox 360.It's essentially an argument for backwards compatability and keeping up to date with current trends rolled in to one, or am I missing something? If not then the advantage lies with the PC.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What?

How many times do I need to repeat myself...

Like I said, you just need a identical or better PC and it's the same for console.

Bebi_vegeta

Well, it's the same for me then... I can't bring my PS3 game because my friend only has a PS2... it's exactly what I said....

4) Will every game be compatible with that controller? But this point really is about preference. .

[QUOTE="AwesomeJustice"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]1) Hacking - There's a lot less hacking on console games. 2) Optimization - Games are designed to take advantage of the specific hardware,therefore games on consoles are almost guaranteed to run well. 3) Community - Multiplayer games,in my opinion,are more fun on consoles because of their community and feature sets of the service providers. 4) Comfort - Yes I've tried playing pc games on my 42 inch but it's not comfortable at all.Nothing beats a controller/couch combo.Zero_epyon

2) KZ2 barely runs at 30.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="AwesomeJustice"] 1) Yeah suree..someone hasn't play COD4 or COD WAW on ps3... LOL 2) Funny thing i played many console exclusives that are supposed to run at steady 30 fps,but you find really ugly frame rates..ALA KZ2 and Gears of War 2 3) Have you ever play any PC MP? dedicated servers,more mature people,no immature kids screaming or saying racist insults if someone kills them.. and i can keep going.. 4 ) I can easily hook up any control to my PC and still use it from my couch/hell i don't have problems using K/M.swazidoughman

2) KZ2 barely runs at 30.

1. True though most have hack prevention now but they aren't 100% to say the least.

2. they are almost guaranteed to run.. well is debatable since there are games with framerate issues on consoles too. it's not rare.

3. I find the pc gaming community much more active for multiplayer games.

4. You can use a controller for your pc as well.

5. if your friend doesn't have a pc that can run the game it's the same as if he's got a ps3 and your game is for 360.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] 1) i've been playing COD4 for 2 years. PM my you psn ID so we can do a cage match. I'm aware of the UFO hack. But when was the last time it was hacked compared to the PC version? 2) KZ2 had ugly frame rates? Are you talking about those little blips while running through a level? Cause that's actually the rest of the level loading. I can't say for gears. 3) I have. And it wasn't that great. PSN has dedicated server too, ALA KZ2. I really doubt that console players are the only ones being racist. You must mute everybody. 4) Will every game be compatible with that controller? But this point really is about preference. 5) I guess you agree with my 5th point.Zero_epyon

2) KZ2 barely runs at 30.

Oh, come on, don't act like a fanboy please. There are obviously MASSIVE hiccups during saves and loads.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

2) KZ2 barely runs at 30.

Hanass

Oh, come on, don't act like a fanboy please. There are obviously MASSIVE hiccups during saves and loads.

5. if your friend doesn't have a pc that can run the game it's the same as if he's got a ps3 and your game is for 360.

Ontain

Community is just as strong on PC. Servers can be a community in themselves. I've been playing CS:S on the same server for 5 years, lol. Also, Steam is better than Xbox Live imo, and it's free.

You're right about hacking though. It can be done on consoles, but it's not easily accessible like it is on pc.

Hacking on the PC is really bad. Even on Steam in games like L4D there is a lot of hacking going on.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] 1) i've been playing COD4 for 2 years. PM my you psn ID so we can do a cage match. I'm aware of the UFO hack. But when was the last time it was hacked compared to the PC version?Vandalvideo

Hacking doesn't happen that much on the pc? Are you kidding me?

Arma II was recently released and already has cheaters: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=75815

My friend is a big Arma II fan but won't play multiplayer because of cheaters. BF2 and CS still have hackers. Vietcong was totally ruined by hackers. It was one of the best multiplayer games until became a hack fest.

The open nature of the pc allows for mods but also exploits for hackers to find.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] 1) i've been playing COD4 for 2 years. PM my you psn ID so we can do a cage match. I'm aware of the UFO hack. But when was the last time it was hacked compared to the PC version?dc337

Hacking doesn't happen that much on the pc? Are you kidding me?

Arma II was recently released and already has cheaters: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=75815

My friend is a big Arma II fan but won't play multiplayer because of cheaters. BF2 and CS still have hackers. Vietcong was totally ruined by hackers. It was one of the best multiplayer games until became a hack fest.

The open nature of the pc allows for mods but also exploits for hackers to find.

What?

No, not when you are playing on VAC servers.

Now developers have their own responsibility of supporting games.

Now dont mind me while I fly around the map in COD4 on the PS3, or use a handy lag switch with a 360 while playing Halo 3.

Isn't it just great.

Difference is on the PC you have both moderators, administrators, and people with control over the server.

....meh, the only thing that is good about the consoles is that the games will work well, no bugs no crashes no perfomance, ohh and the game's control scheme is designed for a console.dakan45