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#51 jasonheyman
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Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:
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#52 SOedipus
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Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:jasonheyman
I wouldn't call them ground breaking but they would still be better.
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#53 SapSacPrime
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Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...crazy-player
Do you really believe MGS can compete? Crysis makes it look like a Wii game :|.
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#55 blackdreamhunk
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it safe to say they have no creadability, maybe big companies forking out the cash
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#56 FragTycoon
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?

Am I reading that wrong?

My comp wouldn't get 5 FPS at that resolution :P

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#57 Willy105
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...SapSacPrime
Do you really believe MGS can compete? Crysis makes it look like a Wii game :|.

Maybe not with screens from gaming PC's, but in real life, MGS competes very well, and wins.
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...SapSacPrime
Do you really believe MGS can compete? Crysis makes it look like a Wii game :|.

Your kidding right?? Crysis on mid setting is comparable to MGS4!! To state otherwise is blind fanboyism! Crysis played on mid setting the leafs on the trees look blocky come on this is ridiculous!

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#59 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="crazy-player"]Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...jasonheyman

Do you really believe MGS can compete? Crysis makes it look like a Wii game :|.

Your kidding right?? Crysis on mid setting is comparable to MGS4!! To state otherwise is blind fanboyism! Crysis played on mid setting the leafs on the trees look blocky come on this is ridiculous!

I was still blown away how Crysis looks on med. I don't care what any fanboy says to me Crysis: Warhead should have won this award.
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#60 Nikalai_88
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I think that everyone knows that technical refers to things like pizel count, texture resolution, shaders, right? You know very well that gamespot can't reviews how well a game is coded for each particular system since they don't have the source code or the technical know-how. Pre-renderd cutscenes are not taken into account. Also MGS4 animations are not as great as they are made out to be, they are certainly not as big of a leap as HL2 were and feel rather 'standard' for this generation.

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#61 Baranga
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Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:jasonheyman

So? By that logic MGS4 isn't all that it's hyped up to be unless you have a PS3. Face it, MGS4 without a PS3 is just coffee support.

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#62 mr_mozilla
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That MGS4 shot is strange, maybe the textures didn't load or something, it's hard to believe they would overlook something like that, especially when it otherwise looks like a bullshot with high AA, or maybe it cause it's streched from 1024x768 to 720p or something. Not that it matters, MGS4 is nowhere near Warhead. L4D didn't get excused in other areas because of pretty models and nice animation, don't see why MGS4 should be any different. Anyway, not sure why people try to dismiss Warhead because it doesn't look that good on medium settings, we don't judge ps3/360 games by how they look on a crappy sdtv either. Then again...maybe GS does, that could explain how MGS4 won.
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#63 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Willy105"]The game at the bottom looks ugly. No wonder the top one won.Willy105
The top one looks like crap, also. I mean, look at those PSOne level textures. The bottom looks way better. As a matter of fact, I can name quite a few games better looking than MGS4. Hell, Kameo, a 360 launch game, has better texture quality.

The PSone couldn't do those textures. They are anti-aliased, something the PSone couldn't do. The Crysis picture is quite simply ugly. Terrible lighting, ugly colors, the rocks in the background look like they are made out of sheets. The MGS4 picture looks far better, even if it has little detail. And yes, Kameo looks awesome.

If they looked like they were made out of sheets, how did you know they were rocks? Ugly colors? In the MGS4 one, the only different colors are Snake! I smell some bias here.
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#64 Bebi_vegeta
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Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:jasonheyman

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

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#65 DonPerian
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Hardly proof. MGS4 technically achieved more on the PS3 than Crysis did on the PC. It's all relative to something.
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#66 Bebi_vegeta
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Hardly proof. MGS4 technically achieved more on the PS3 than Crysis did on the PC. It's all relative to something.DonPerian

Yet, technically, Crysis is better.

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#67 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:Bebi_vegeta

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.
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#68 BioShockOwnz
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2 ugly screens, but Crysis still looks atleast 5x's better, technically.
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#71 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Crysis didn't get best graphics because it wasn't "all that it was hyped up to be" UNLESS you have a high end rig to play it on. Face it Crysis played on mid setting is not ground breaking. I love how the pics are flying in this thread already.:roll:DonPerian

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

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#72 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

Bebi_vegeta

Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.

I am not talking about that, i'm talking lighting effects, shading effects, textures everything techinical with the game.

I don't think anyone is arguing with you about how Crysis looks better than MGS4. I even agree with you. It achieves a lot that the PS3 and MGS4 cannot. What validates (to some point) the award is the fact that the visuals of MGS4 were achieved on a console such as the PS3. Whether you agree that should win or not is up to you. Personally, I find it impressive that Kojima and his men were able to get that game running on the PS3, whereas I wasn't so impressed with Crysis running on a PC because I know that the sky is the limit with those machines.

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#73 smackyomomma
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

Bebi_vegeta

Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

graphics are more crisp because higher resolution see finer details

but the graphics still look the same lol

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Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...crazy-player
I spent all last week playing MGS4. Its really fun, BUT its hardly got the best graphics. Infact, now that i've played both i can say that Gears 2 definately beats MGS4 for graphics.
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#75 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

And you need a HDTV to best MSG4.

Bebi_vegeta

Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

An SDTV's resolution is equivalent to a 1.3 megapixel camera. A 1080P HDTV set is equivalent to a 2 megapixel camera. Not much of a difference. But no, I am not saying there is no difference.
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Yeah, choose one of the most horrible pics for MGS4, and one of the best for Crysis...Phazevariance
I spent all last week playing MGS4. Its really fun, BUT its hardly got the best graphics. Infact, now that i've played both i can say that Gears 2 definately beats MGS4 for graphics.

Gears 2....LMAO!!!
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#77 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DonPerian"] Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.DonPerian

I am not talking about that, i'm talking lighting effects, shading effects, textures everything techinical with the game.

I don't think anyone is arguing with you about how Crysis looks better than MGS4. I even agree with you. It achieves a lot that the PS3 and MGS4 cannot. What validates (to some point) the award is the fact that the visuals of MGS4 were achieved on a console such as the PS3. Whether you agree that should win or not is up to you. Personally, I find it impressive that Kojima and his men were able to get that game running on the PS3, whereas I wasn't so impressed with Crysis running on a PC because I know that the sky is the limit with those machines.

It doesn't matter if you're impressed or not... This is a technical graphic award about the game... not about what it achevied vs its hardware. And if anything, it's very short for what Sony promissed the PS3 to be aka 120 fps @ 1080p.

So in other words, what the PC has as a advantage should not count because console are not able to match...???

Anyway, just because PC hardware is better, it doesn't mean every game will look better. And, that's proof, since Crysis is the best looking PC game and the best looking game out now on any platforme.

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#78 sumner1456
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I don't think they gave the techincal graphics award to crysis warhead as its preety much an expansion pack to the game that won best graphics technically last year. BTW the mgs4 picture dosen't do the games graphics justice, even if they aren't to the standard of crysis
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#79 smackyomomma
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you cant say crysis has the best graphics because 1 thing crysis does stuff good at another game will do something better at.

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#80 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DonPerian"] Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.DonPerian

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

An SDTV's resolution is equivalent to a 1.3 megapixel camera. A 1080P HDTV set is equivalent to a 2 megapixel camera. Not much of a difference. But no, I am not saying there is no difference.

SDTV doing 1.3 megapixel??? Can you explain to me how you got that number...

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#81 Solidyeas
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I'm pretty sure the top pic is from portable ops + not MGS4.
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#82 Bebi_vegeta
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I don't think they gave the techincal graphics award to crysis warhead as its preety much an expansion pack to the game that won best graphics technically last year. BTW the mgs4 picture dosen't do the games graphics justice, even if they aren't to the standard of crysissumner1456

Again, why was it even nominated then?? there's no rule saying "expansion games"... wich is a full game btw... don't count.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DonPerian"] Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.DonPerian

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

An SDTV's resolution is equivalent to a 1.3 megapixel camera. A 1080P HDTV set is equivalent to a 2 megapixel camera. Not much of a difference. But no, I am not saying there is no difference.

Lol...that was unbelievable **** right there.

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crysis warhead single player lol this is the rocks people always take distance shots of notice crappy textures upclose

dx10 max settings

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#85 McdonaIdsGuy
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I'm pretty sure the top pic is from portable ops + not MGS4.Solidyeas
Are u being sarcastic? or i call it damage control,because is MGS4..
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you cant say crysis has the best graphics because 1 thing crysis does stuff good at another game will do something better at.

smackyomomma
\fanboy... crysis beats out a smashing majority of games out there in a smashing amount of things... other than crysis / crysis warhead, what other games render an entire freakin island in real time? what other games has speceific animations ot EACH and EVERYONE of the enemy AI? what other game can be modified graphics / level ise in EVERY way?....
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First off, that pic is from pre-pre-pre-release man. looks nowhere near like snake in the final version.
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#88 smackyomomma
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[QUOTE="smackyomomma"]

you cant say crysis has the best graphics because 1 thing crysis does stuff good at another game will do something better at.

GTR2addict

\fanboy... crysis beats out a smashing majority of games out there in a smashing amount of things... other than crysis / crysis warhead, what other games render an entire freakin island in real time? what other games has speceific animations ot EACH and EVERYONE of the enemy AI? what other game can be modified graphics / level ise in EVERY way?....

doom3 has better lighting

the island really isnt even big it's mostly just background/prop you cant explore.

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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="smackyomomma"]

you cant say crysis has the best graphics because 1 thing crysis does stuff good at another game will do something better at.

smackyomomma

\fanboy... crysis beats out a smashing majority of games out there in a smashing amount of things... other than crysis / crysis warhead, what other games render an entire freakin island in real time? what other games has speceific animations ot EACH and EVERYONE of the enemy AI? what other game can be modified graphics / level ise in EVERY way?....

doom3 has better lighting

the island really isnt even big it's mostly just background/prop you cant explore.

:lol: Bandodging.
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[QUOTE="smackyomomma"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] \fanboy... crysis beats out a smashing majority of games out there in a smashing amount of things... other than crysis / crysis warhead, what other games render an entire freakin island in real time? what other games has speceific animations ot EACH and EVERYONE of the enemy AI? what other game can be modified graphics / level ise in EVERY way?....Locke562

doom3 has better lighting

the island really isnt even big it's mostly just background/prop you cant explore.

:lol: Bandodging.

doom3 has better lighting

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#91 GTR2addict
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[QUOTE="smackyomomma"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] \fanboy... crysis beats out a smashing majority of games out there in a smashing amount of things... other than crysis / crysis warhead, what other games render an entire freakin island in real time? what other games has speceific animations ot EACH and EVERYONE of the enemy AI? what other game can be modified graphics / level ise in EVERY way?....Locke562

doom3 has better lighting

the island really isnt even big it's mostly just background/prop you cant explore.

:lol: Bandodging.

indeed :lol: not to mention, DOOM3 doesnt have dynamic HDR / shadows :| and the island IS huge... probably bigger than all the sets in MGS4 combined, YET being fully rendered in real time

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#92 killzowned24
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hermit and lems have been owned by MGS4 face it.
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#93 BZSIN
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DonPerian"] Television sets and resolution don't enhance the graphical capabilities of a game or console.DonPerian

Really? So you're saying there's no difference between a SDTV and HDTV?

An SDTV's resolution is equivalent to a 1.3 megapixel camera. A 1080P HDTV set is equivalent to a 2 megapixel camera. Not much of a difference. But no, I am not saying there is no difference.

Huh? 720 x 480 = 345,600

1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600

I'd call that a bit more than "not much of a difference"

You must have meant .3 megapixel.

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#94 crazy-player
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crysis warhead single player lol this is the rocks people always take distance shots of notice crappy textures upclose]

smackyomomma
Not you again, we all know you're here to troll. Crysis looks better than Doom 3, and Quake 4. No game is perfect, Crysis even has its graphical flaws, but its graphics is 10x better than Quake or Doom, so stop.
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#95 mr_mozilla
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crysis warhead single player lol this is the rocks people always take distance shots of notice crappy textures upclosesmackyomomma
Now I know you're that guy who only keeps touting the superiority of Doom3 and UT3 so this is prolly a waste of time. But for some reason I'm interested. Do you think MGS4 deserved to win the best technical graphics? If not, what game did aside from Unreal or IdTech engine games?
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[QUOTE="smackyomomma"]crysis warhead single player lol this is the rocks people always take distance shots of notice crappy textures upclosemr_mozilla
Now I know you're that guy who only keeps touting the superiority of Doom3 and UT3 so this is prolly a waste of time. But for some reason I'm interested. Do you think MGS4 deserved to win the best technical graphics? If not, what game did aside from Unreal or IdTech engine games?

Stop, dont feed the troll. He's wrong.
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#97 muscleserge
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hermit and lems have been owned by MGS4 face it.killzowned24
We have been owned by a larger advertising budget and a few conveniently placed gift bags.
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#98 killzowned24
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I think the hemit is just so mad because best graphics is all it could ever hope to win because it sure will NEVER win a exclusive game of the year:)
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#99 Bebi_vegeta
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I think the hemit is just so mad because best graphics is all it could ever hope to win because it sure will NEVER win a exclusive game of the year:)killzowned24

Yes, because only GOTY are worth playing.

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#100 lowe0
Member since 2004 • 13692 Posts
[QUOTE="killzowned24"]hermit and lems have been owned by MGS4 face it.muscleserge
We have been owned by a larger advertising budget and a few conveniently placed gift bags.

Wow... your whole argument is "anyone who isn't impressed by Crysis must be paid off"?