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#201  Edited By BlackShirt20
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Everyone relax. With no E3, all they were doing was showing games you could look forward over the next couple years. This was not intended to showcase what the console is capable of. It was “You want to see games for Xbox Series X, we want to show you games for Xbox Series X.”

There big showcase is June. This was just for 3rd party newly announced games.

Yes more gameplay should have been shown since that was the title. But with what was being leaked over the last few days this was not gonna be the big showcase we thought. It was more directed towards game reveals which is what I was expecting. It wasn’t a great show. But I give it a C. Some games I am definitely interested in. But, June is the big focus.

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@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

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@i_p_daily said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

Daily you seem mad....must of been the crappy showings of the xbox series X games we just witnessed....oh well, wait for Halo gears forza....LMFAO! thats all you have. Leave the good games for the playstation 5.

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Can't wait for Scorn. I kickstarted that a few years back. The demo was cool, but it looks like it's changed a lot since then.

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#205 Nonstop-Madness
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@sealionact: You'd buy the game on whichever console you wanted (digitally) and, then it would be available in your library for download when you signed onto the other console. It worked the same when buying digital PS1 games on PS3 / PSP or Vita.

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#206 xhawk27
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The big show is in July. You'll see the Xbox Exclusives then. New games.

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@fastnslowww said:
@i_p_daily said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

Daily you seem mad....must of been the crappy showings of the xbox series X games we just witnessed....oh well, wait for Halo gears forza....LMFAO! thats all you have. Leave the good games for the playstation 5.

You seem confused, did you know the show was for third party games that will also be on the PS5, albeit with the possibility of being slightly worse versions lol.

So why did Sony not have the balls to add likes/dislikes to a trailer of its BIGGEST game this gen, Sony seems mad, and you're confused, you make a great couple :)

I now know why you call yourself fastnslow, fast to react, but slow to understand ones posts LMFAO.

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#208 BenjaminBanklin
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@virusvaccine21 said:

I'm not lying, I know this is System Wars and everything but in the morning the video had 15k dislikes and then went down to 10k when I posted what I said. Now it's back to 15k. But, obviously with a lot more views.

Something very weird is going on with the video. People are saying it went to private at some point, and when it came back, the dislike bar changed. Now, it's age-restricted. This is a company that HATES bad PR of any kind, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing something to manipulate the video like convincing Google they're being hit with bot spam. I don't know. It's shady.

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#209 xhawk27
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@fastnslowww said:
@i_p_daily said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

Daily you seem mad....must of been the crappy showings of the xbox series X games we just witnessed....oh well, wait for Halo gears forza....LMFAO! thats all you have. Leave the good games for the playstation 5.

You seem mad all the times. Maybe it's because Sony might never have a show! LOL

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#210 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

I'm not lying, I know this is System Wars and everything but in the morning the video had 15k dislikes and then went down to 10k when I posted what I said. Now it's back to 15k. But, obviously with a lot more views.

Something very weird is going on with the video. People are saying it went to private at some point, and when it came back, the dislike bar changed. Now, it's age-restricted. This is a company that HATES bad PR of any kind, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing something to manipulate the video like convincing Google they're being hit with bot spam. I don't know. It's shady.

What do you say about Sony turning the comments AND likes/DISLIKES off for the Lesbian of Us 2 trailer, Sony must also hate bad PR of any kind also.

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#211 BenjaminBanklin
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Also, isn't it weird that MS has been doing all this crowing about "transparency", when they called this show a gameplay showing (it was bullshit) and they're still not revealing anything about the Lockhart, which is their worst kept secret?

They've been setting themselves up like they're on some corporate ethical high ground and turn around and pull the same garbage. Remember, this is the same company that stopped revealing sales numbers years ago. Oh, Microsoft! *WHOMP WHOMP*

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@i_p_daily said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

Oh look is that alt account who has issues with lesbians.

Microsoft Disables Comments For Xbox One Videos Following Harsh Criticisms

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Disables-Comments-Xbox-One-Videos-Following-Harsh-Criticisms-56073.html

Yeah like MS has never ever done that right..¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#213 BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Something very weird is going on with the video. People are saying it went to private at some point, and when it came back, the dislike bar changed. Now, it's age-restricted. This is a company that HATES bad PR of any kind, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing something to manipulate the video like convincing Google they're being hit with bot spam. I don't know. It's shady.

What do you say about Sony turning the comments AND likes/DISLIKES off for the Lesbian of Us 2 trailer, Sony must also hate bad PR of any kind also.

Cool, homophobia. Interesting stance from a guy that fellates Microsoft on a regular basis. Also, I haven't followed that video, but that would be bad if they did that too. I didn't bring Sony up, regardless.

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#214 tormentos
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@xhawk27 said:

The big show is in July. You'll see the Xbox Exclusives then. New games.

@xhawk27 said:

You seem mad all the times. Maybe it's because Sony might never have a show! LOL

A the safe word in order to not look like a fool when sony does their show.

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#215  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@Pedro said:

@tormentos: Already damage controlling and nothing has been shown as yet. LMAO.

Well i say it is you that is damage controlling anything i could say in advance i was just pointing how something.🤷‍♂️

By the way incredible showing by MS sony is TEH doom.

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Example of XSX vs X1X

From https://www.tomsguide.com/news/first-xbox-series-x-gameplay-may-be-revealed-today-with-forza-motorsport-8

Forza Horizon 4

The demo show will reportedly continue with Forza Horizon 4. Here we will see how variable rate shading works on the Xbox Series X. VRS is a technique that allows the GPU to boost detail and quality in complex parts of the images while lowering its power needs in simpler areas.

The reasoning behind VRS is that our eyes and brain can’t focus on the totality of an image. If you are paying attention to the screen, your eyes will be focused on where the action is, which typically is the more complex part of the image. The graphics engine doesn’t have to spend so much power on the less complex, peripherals parts of the image. That results in power optimization that allows to boost detail even more or increase the frame rate.

The results? Playground Games — who develop the Forza Horizon series — added VRS to Forza Horizon 4 when it received its Xbox Series X development kits in December. That increased the frame rate in the game by a whooping 32% with “no optimizations, just using VRS in parts with motion blur.” According to the redditor, “VRS changes the way they design games (VRS as motion blur replacement),” pointing out that the” lead engineer says they can reach 4K/120 today on XSX thanks to RDNA2 architecture and the combined effort of AMD and Microsoft.”

Yeah, 4K and 120 frames per second.

Swapping FH4's blur motion into VRS version enables XSX's FH4 to reach 120 fps 4K.

If VRS improves the frame rate by 32 percent which yields 120 fps 4K, then non-VRS version would be 81.6 fps 4K, hence XSX GPU is about 2.72 times better than X1X GPU's FH4 results.

The "no optimizations" could mean running on GCN legacy mode (wave64 instructions) instead of RDNA mode (wave32 instructions)

When running on GCN legacy mode, XSX GPU is effectively ~16.3 TFLOPS GCN.

Apparently you believe every game perform as forza,yeah that stupid you are.

Apparently, Forza Horizon developer Playground Games is working non-racing game, an open-world RPG and Gears 5 (built-in benchmark with PC Ultra settings, Unreal Engine 4) already delivering RTX 2080 level results.

My point with Forza Horizon 4's example is the new GPU resource conserve features with DirectX12 Ultimate (aka DirectX12 Feature Level 12_2) before using the checkerboard workaround.

Forza Horizon 4 and Forza Motorsport 7 are not the only games friendly with AMD RDNA GPUs. For example

Dirt Rally 2.0 is Codemasters' year 2019 game which should be closer to incoming Dirt 5.

https://www.amd.com/en/gaming/dirt-5

Dirt 5 is an AMD sponsored game.

RX Vega 56/64 rivaled or beaten by RX 5700, hence Vega GCN is aging along with NVIDIA's Pascal.

RX 590 (Polaris 30) has 7.1 TFLOPS and it was crushed by 7.7 TFLOPS average RX 5700.

The difference between 5700 and 5700 XT,

Math, (1.0 memory bandwidth difference + 1.2545 TFLOPS difference) /2 = 1.127 or 12.7% effective average difference

Actual, 61 / 54 = 1.129 or 12.9% frame rate difference.

XSX's 25% increase in TFLOPS and memory bandwidth over RX 5700 XT lands on 76.5 fps which is slightly above RTX 2080 level.

XSX's 25% increase in TFLOPS without factoring memory bandwidth increase over RX 5700 XT lands on 68.8 fps which close to RTX 2080 level.

Math, (1.0 memory bandwidth difference + 1.2574 TFLOPS difference) /2 = 1.1287 or 12.8% effective average difference.

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@ronvalencia:

Sup Ron, what games you been playing lately?

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#217  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@i_p_daily said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Something very weird is going on with the video. People are saying it went to private at some point, and when it came back, the dislike bar changed. Now, it's age-restricted. This is a company that HATES bad PR of any kind, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing something to manipulate the video like convincing Google they're being hit with bot spam. I don't know. It's shady.

What do you say about Sony turning the comments AND likes/DISLIKES off for the Lesbian of Us 2 trailer, Sony must also hate bad PR of any kind also.

Cool, homophobia. Interesting stance from a guy that fellates Microsoft on a regular basis. Also, I haven't followed that video, but that would be bad if they did that too. I didn't bring Sony up, regardless.

No the lead character is a Lesbian, and that's what the L stands for in LGBT, its a play on words, but I see you have the mental capacity of the tormented one lol.

So what you're saying is that as a cow you don't follow Sony's games and yet you do MS, what a weird little person you are. Oh and by the way I saw that Sony blocked all from davs thread, as I don't follow Sony's game either, who knew we had that in common ROFL.

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#218 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@tormentos said:
@i_p_daily said:
@virusvaccine21 said:

BTW, Microsoft is deleting the amount of dislikes on their video. Was 15k this morning, now 10k? How is that even possible?

That's funny that a cow alt is talking about dislikes, as your precious Sony blocked all comments AND likes/dislikes from its latest Lesbian of Us 2 trailer LMFAO.

Oh look is that alt account who has issues with lesbians.

Microsoft Disables Comments For Xbox One Videos Following Harsh Criticisms

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Disables-Comments-Xbox-One-Videos-Following-Harsh-Criticisms-56073.html

Yeah like MS has never ever done that right..¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I never said that MS don't do it did I stupid one? I presented something to your fellow cow alt inmate as he was posting as if its a MS thing, when in reality its a everybody thing.

Why do you have an issue with others calling a person what they are? Also why are you allowed to use the word Lesbian and not be homophobic but if someone else uses it they are?

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Nintendo moved up the ladder without doing anything. Sony and Microsoft's new console presentations have been as entertaining as watching grass grow so far.

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@i_p_daily said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Cool, homophobia. Interesting stance from a guy that fellates Microsoft on a regular basis. Also, I haven't followed that video, but that would be bad if they did that too. I didn't bring Sony up, regardless.

No the lead character is a Lesbian, and that's what the L stands for in LGBT, its a play on words, but I see you have the mental capacity on the tormented one lol.

So what you're saying is that as a cow you don't follow Sony's games and yet you do MS, what a weird little person you are. Oh and by the way I saw that Sony blocked all from davs thread, as I don't follow Sony's game either, who knew we had that in common ROFL.

The fucking game is called The Last of Us and you're using the character's sexuality as a derogatory knock against the game by mocking the title. You know what you're doing. Don't conclude we're all stupid. You're a weaselly piece of garbage that has way too much teflon on this board for some reason.

And no, I'm avoiding as much of the game as I can because unlike you, I actually own a console that has games I'm looking forward to. Still has shit all to do with the fact that MS is trying to put out the fires for their completely failed first look at their next gen console.

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"Biggest leap since 2D to 3D" Phil Spencer

Yea this might not age well🤭

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#222 Tessellation
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Mad cow disease is showing in this thread, specially from the guy thinking the overclock 9tflops console can match the 12Tflops one🤣😂

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#223  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@nfamouslegend said:

"Biggest leap since 2D to 3D" Phil Spencer

Yea this might not age well🤭

I honestly think games won't 'look' that much different from current gen, but they will surely 'feel' different.

Going from 1080/30 current gen to 4K/60 next gen is not only a 4 times increase in resolution. But you get twice the performance, which is something you certainly feel when playing games. It just feels smoother and better to control.

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@mclarenmaster18 said:

The game I'm excited for Xbox Series X at this moment is DiRT 5!

I knew you would :D

Honestly, I think it looks fantastic. Like they take the variety of events and weather from Forza Horizon and mix it with the skillful driving and AI of codemasters games and you got a winner.

Totally getting this.

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#225 Paddy345
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@R4gn4r0k: True, for Xbox one X users there will be little difference however for those with the vanilla console then they will see a significant increase. I can't believe guys were playing current gen games at 30fps at 1080p

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#226 hardwenzen
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@ConanTheStoner said:

@ronvalencia:

Sup Ron, what games you been playing lately?

Isn't he a program made by mods to post informative benchmarks and graphs? I don't think it can play video games, nor was it designed to.

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@Paddy345 said:

@R4gn4r0k: True, for Xbox one X users there will be little difference however for those with the vanilla console then they will see a significant increase. I can't believe guys were playing current gen games at 30fps at 1080p

People with 1080p TVs will be more than happy with the PS4 Pro or Xbox X for a few more years.

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@tormentos: PsNow is nothing like Gamepass, and it exists for a totally different reason;

Backwards compatibility.

If you own ps3 games, you cant play them on ps4....unless it's on PsNow. Then you can pay again and stream it (No downloads) to your ps4 or PC. You pay twice to play your ps3 game. The only exceptions to that are the remasters like Last of us, God of war 3 and The last Guardian. If you own any of these games on ps3.....you pay again to play them on ps4.

This is why there is no bc with ps3 on ps5....Sony want PsNow money.

At the end of the day, it really is about what makes you happy. If you think Sony's BC on ps5 is as good as on XSX, PSNow is better than Gamepass and you don't need crossbuy, then happy days!

Personally, I think xbox owners are being treated way, way better by ms.

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#229  Edited By Bluestars
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Cow’s owning themselves badly here HaH

The ps5 version of the games show will look and play worse

This is not shooting yourselves in the foot,this is blowing your own f#%king leg off HAH

Where are the games Sony

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Super impressive and so exciting..

lol :P

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@SecretPolice said:

Super impressive and so exciting..

lol :P

You already have the Xbox SeX preordered :P

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#232 SecretPolice
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:

Super impressive and so exciting..

lol :P

You already have the Xbox SeX preordered :P

Yeah man, all mah senses can't wait to be..... SeX-ually Assaulted. lol

TBH, I have the X1X ( which is only a smidgen weaker than the PS Jive lol ) and have not made up my mind whether I'll get XSX on day one or not. If I do it will be a impulse buy just to have Halo: Infinite at it's finest. :P

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#233  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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This thread is predictably turning to a lem support counseling session. 🤣🤣🤣 Microsoft had one chance to make a first impression and show the world the whole purpose of the Xbox Series X...

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#234  Edited By SecretPolice
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With mostly indie and unknown devs making a showing, one thing seems clear; probably won't be able to tell the difference between those games shown running on next gen PS Jive and this gen Mighty X1X. lol

Poo cows. :P

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#235 R4gn4r0k
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@SecretPolice said:

Yeah man, all mah senses can't wait to be..... SeX-ually Assaulted. lol

TBH, I have the X1X ( which is only a smidgen weaker than the PS Jive lol ) and have not made up my mind whether I'll get XSX on day one or not. If I do it will be a impulse buy just to have Halo: Infinite at it's finest. :P

yeah for real, it depends on if you have a 4K tv or not.

Xbox One will be more than fine to do 1080p for a few more years.

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@tormentos said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Microsoft will be showing off next gen games in half an hour.

Keep the discussion here.

Not sure what that 'Optimized for Series X' logo is all about. How can a game appear on the system and not be optimized for it? I don't get it.

This thread gets the Official Nintendo seal of quality.

Is basically the way MS will force developer under NDA to use every bit of power out of the xbox or they refuse the game..🤣

Is just a marketing hook to show the game is superior on xbox probably,they are playing the power card to the bitter end.

@goldenelementxl said:

Uh oh. This has that "all games will output at 1080p" fiasco written all over it.

Same guy..😂

XBO hurts MS's collective egos and created X1X and XSX game console hardware superiority.

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#237  Edited By ronvalencia
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@nfamouslegend said:

"Biggest leap since 2D to 3D" Phil Spencer

Yea this might not age well🤭

3D GPU accelerates Z-buffer accelerated structures since the first SGI's IrisGL (1985) and OpenGL 1.0 (July 1994) until DXR/RTX which accelerates raytracing BHV accelerated structures.

Sony's PS1 was released in December 1994 without accelerated Z-buffer.

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#238 hardwenzen
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Glad this show was poorly received. They had only one properly played game which is made by one guy in China. Games from China have no chances of being good, so it'll be a 7/10 tops. For the rest of the show, everything was poor, be it because there's no gameplay or the game looks like its from 2015 running on the original ps4. MS said that "we read online", well, now they better read the feedback they've gotten after this mediocre presentation.

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#239 shellcase86
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@wiiboxstation said:

Nintendo moved up the ladder without doing anything. Sony and Microsoft's new console presentations have been as entertaining as watching grass grow so far.

Lol, that's a fair assessment.

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#240 mave198
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Bright Memory was the only interesting game shown, but it's developed by one guy in China and it's multiplat.

MS was better off waiting till later to show off it's 1st party offerings. This did nothing to hype the series X.

TLHBO

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#241 Pedro  Online
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People keeping talking highly of Bright Memory but the game looks pretty meh especially the graphics. The gameplay is more interesting than the graphics.

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#242 hardwenzen
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China and Korea can't make video games. Bright Memory will be shit. Maybe even be bundled with the ccp virus for free.

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#243 Pedro  Online
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@hardwenzen: Keep that nonsense out of this topic and forum.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@i_p_daily said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Cool, homophobia. Interesting stance from a guy that fellates Microsoft on a regular basis. Also, I haven't followed that video, but that would be bad if they did that too. I didn't bring Sony up, regardless.

No the lead character is a Lesbian, and that's what the L stands for in LGBT, its a play on words, but I see you have the mental capacity on the tormented one lol.

So what you're saying is that as a cow you don't follow Sony's games and yet you do MS, what a weird little person you are. Oh and by the way I saw that Sony blocked all from davs thread, as I don't follow Sony's game either, who knew we had that in common ROFL.

The fucking game is called The Last of Us and you're using the character's sexuality as a derogatory knock against the game by mocking the title. You know what you're doing. Don't conclude we're all stupid. You're a weaselly piece of garbage that has way too much teflon on this board for some reason.

And no, I'm avoiding as much of the game as I can because unlike you, I actually own a console that has games I'm looking forward to. Still has shit all to do with the fact that MS is trying to put out the fires for their completely failed first look at their next gen console.

Sensitive little moo moo aren't you. I called other games differently from their names like Cyberflunk, Ghost of Sashimi, God awefall among many others but you wack job cows take offense to the Lesbian of us 2.

Cry me a river, and then build a bridge to get over that river you sook lol.

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#245 PC_Rocks
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So, where are the next-gen games?

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#246 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:

@hardwenzen: Keep that nonsense out of this topic and forum.

agree, but Chinese and Korean devs not being able to make proper games ain't false. Don't think i have ever seen a good game made there. They're all grindy generic chores.

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#247 BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:

Sensitive little moo moo aren't you. I called other games differently from their names like Cyberflunk, Ghost of Sashimi, God awefall among many others but you wack job cows take offense to the Lesbian of us 2.

Cry me a river, and then build a bridge to get over that river you sook lol.

Cyberflunk, Ghost of Sashimi, God awefall... The Lesbian of Us 2. One of these is not like the others.

How are you so dense to believe that's being disrespectful to Playstation gamers and say, oh, not an entire demographic? You're such a basement dwelling moron that you can't see the forest for the trees anymore.

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#248  Edited By tormentos
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@ronvalencia:

Let me see i tell you that Forza doesn't represent all games and you go your way out to find ANOTHER reacing game in order to prove your point.

Nor MS games or racing games represent 100% of the damn market the witcher doesn't work like Forza or Gears,see my point?

@Tessellation said:

Mad cow disease is showing in this thread, specially from the guy thinking the overclock 9tflops console can match the 12Tflops one🤣😂

Were do you got the PS4 is 9TF from the same place you got your xbox one secret specs..🤣

@sealionact said:

@tormentos: PsNow is nothing like Gamepass, and it exists for a totally different reason;

Backwards compatibility.

If you own ps3 games, you cant play them on ps4....unless it's on PsNow. Then you can pay again and stream it (No downloads) to your ps4 or PC. You pay twice to play your ps3 game. The only exceptions to that are the remasters like Last of us, God of war 3 and The last Guardian. If you own any of these games on ps3.....you pay again to play them on ps4.

This is why there is no bc with ps3 on ps5....Sony want PsNow money.

At the end of the day, it really is about what makes you happy. If you think Sony's BC on ps5 is as good as on XSX, PSNow is better than Gamepass and you don't need crossbuy, then happy days!

Personally, I think xbox owners are being treated way, way better by ms.

1-Yes they are the same and only a blind lemming will deny that or challenge it.

2-Allow me to correct your stupidity if i don't own any PS3 game or a PS4 how is PS now BC for me? If i own a PC and i have PS Now how the fu** is that BC for PS3,since when PC is BC with any playstation?

PS Now is a rental service nothing more is a netflix for game,by the way PS Now has PS4 games as well so if PS now is BC how the fu** it has PS4 games,so the PS4 is BC with the PS4?

For real?

The level of stupidity is simply out of this world and all just to try to claim Gamepass is original when it is a stinking copy of PS Now.

3-Let me reverse your logic into you,Gamepass is BC there are original xbox games and xbox 360 games on the service,and the service is charge to play so even if you don't download the game you already own you are still charge for them because you pay for everything gamepass has offer as a package.

Have sony come one and say we will not emulate PS3 games?

The xbox one isn't even BC with 360 games,if you don't fu**ing have internet you have no BC as you are FORCE to download a digital version that is compatible with the xbox one that is not BC at all.

BC is inserting your game on a platform and playing it from there,if the game is digital it should work like windows,now that is BC,the xbox doesn't have that,you are force to download a compatible version periods.

At the end of the day no one give sa shit about BC as the PS4 and switch proved,both outsold the xbox one badly,at the end of the day you are holding for dear life to what ever advantage you can get to justify your choice,first it was the PS4 has no BC,and now is the xbox has better BC because it run some more old games.

This is what you should focus your view.

PS Now is charge to play.

Gamepass is charge to play.

You don't own games on PS now.

You don't own games on gamepass.

If you don't keep paying you can't play games no more on PS Now.

If you don't keep paying you can't play games no more on gamepass.

Is exactly the same shit the only difference is that MS doesn't have now up an running a streaming service,which is why you download the games,sony stream you the games because they have the system for some time now,and allow you to download them if it is a PS4 game.

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#249  Edited By tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

XBO hurts MS's collective egos and created X1X and XSX game console hardware superiority.

Superiority that serve them for nothing,the switch sold 55 millions since 2017,and the xbox one X has sold like dirt.

So there you have power means little when it comes to success,didn't you learn that already the xbox series X is MS 4th console and will be outsold like the other were before it regardless of power.

@bluestars said:

Cow’s owning themselves badly here HaH

The ps5 version of the games show will look and play worse

This is not shooting yourselves in the foot,this is blowing your own f#%king leg off HAH

Where are the games Sony

Poor kingtito you most be so butthurt that the xbox showing was a complete disaster.😂

@i_p_daily said:

Sensitive little moo moo aren't you. I called other games differently from their names like Cyberflunk, Ghost of Sashimi, God awefall among many others but you wack job cows take offense to the Lesbian of us 2.

Cry me a river, and then build a bridge to get over that river you sook lol.

Oh is I_Hatelesbians_daily again damn that TLOU2 is causing mayor butthurt to lemmings,well it is expected after all it has been a great year for the PS4 while the xbox one has been pretty meh is like a long streak from 2013.😂

@pc_rocks said:

So, where are the next-gen games?

Ask I_hatelesbians_daily maybe he can tell you.

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#250 sealionact
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@tormentos: I dont have time or patience for your nonsensical answers, so just ask yourself if youd rather have gamepass or psnow, and xbox's version of bc or Sony's?

I mean, I know your answer....but you know you're lying.