Intel & Nvidia has something to say to all Console Fans

Intel says consoles are weak and old

http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/videos/home.aspx?fn=1459

Intel said, that they don't want to move back (consoles), they move ahead (PC)

Intel bought Project Offset Dev's which makes it a PC exclusive and it will probably dethrone Crysis in graphics.

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Nvidia

As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

"In terms of raw processing power, the high-end PCs are at least three times more powerful."

Nvidia provides the graphics grunt for the PlayStation 3, while rival ATI provides the imaging hardware for the Xbox 360.

Mr Taylor points out that the latest graphics cards can draw twice as many pixels, twice the screen resolution, as a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

The latest games are employing DirectX 10 tools developed by Microsoft, which are used by developers to get the best out of the high-end and middle-range graphics cards.

Mr Taylor said the new tools and the new hardware had given developers a library of effects to play with.

Nvidia's latest high-end graphics cards, the 8800 series, can easily produce graphical effects that tax the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, such as motion blur, depth of field and volumetric smoke.

Playing Crysis with the screen resolution set at 1920x1200 with all effects switched up to very high and anti-aliasing turned on, the game is breathtaking to look at and puts consoles titles like Gears of War and Call of Duty 4 into the shade.

Mr Taylor said: "Fog, smoke or mist in games until now have been flat and don't respond to objects. Volumetric effects mean they are dynamic - a helicopter can now displace cloud or smoke, or a character can step through the fog realistically."

The PC is finally back up where it belongs," said Mr Diemer.

He added: "The innovation is happening on the PC; but that's always been the case."

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I think there both right on the money, Gears of War maxed out 360 and MGS4 maxed out PS3 (576P) with downgrade, and the Wii is just an abomination,Mario Galaxy maxed out the Wii while still looking like a high end Xbox 1 game which is sad.

Awesome!!!!

Now that you have proved it to me, I will sell my PS3, my HDTV, my stereo, my entertainment stand, my speakers, my controllers, my Blu-Ray movies, my DVD's, my PSP, my PSP games, my PSP case, and everything other than PC and PC games just because PC dominates allzorz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You fail because this is an opinion argument at best.

Some like PC, some like consoles, it's nothing to lose sleep over if some people don't like your PC games.

Well shoot, as others have said, I will now go out and sell my PS3, 360, Wii, DS, PSP, and all of the games I have for them. Seriously Paint, do you ever ever just get tired of being such a fan boy? Its getting somewhat ridiculous now...

AR

thanks for your weekly pc is best thread.doobie1975

Weekly? Ha! I wish. Try more like, hourly...

AR

Intel says consoles are weak and old

http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/videos/home.aspx?fn=1459

Intel said, that they don't want to move back (consoles), they move ahead (PC)

Intel bought Project Offset Dev's which makes it a PC exclusive and it will probably dethrone Crysis in graphics.

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Nvidia

As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

"In terms of raw processing power, the high-end PCs are at least three times more powerful."

Nvidia provides the graphics grunt for the PlayStation 3, while rival ATI provides the imaging hardware for the Xbox 360.

Mr Taylor points out that the latest graphics cards can draw twice as many pixels, twice the screen resolution, as a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

The latest games are employing DirectX 10 tools developed by Microsoft, which are used by developers to get the best out of the high-end and middle-range graphics cards.

Mr Taylor said the new tools and the new hardware had given developers a library of effects to play with.

Nvidia's latest high-end graphics cards, the 8800 series, can easily produce graphical effects that tax the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, such as motion blur, depth of field and volumetric smoke.

Playing Crysis with the screen resolution set at 1920x1200 with all effects switched up to very high and anti-aliasing turned on, the game is breathtaking to look at and puts consoles titles like Gears of War and Call of Duty 4 into the shade.

Mr Taylor said: "Fog, smoke or mist in games until now have been flat and don't respond to objects. Volumetric effects mean they are dynamic - a helicopter can now displace cloud or smoke, or a character can step through the fog realistically."

The PC is finally back up where it belongs," said Mr Diemer.

He added: "The innovation is happening on the PC; but that's always been the case."

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I think there both right on the money, Gears of War maxed out 360 and MGS4 maxed out PS3 (576P) with downgrade, and the Wii is just an abomination,Mario Galaxy maxed out the Wii while still looking like a high end Xbox 1 game which is sad.

Painballz

Blah Blah Blah all i see is Graphics, i can enjoy games enough with GOW, Halo 3, Call of Duty, GTA and Bioshock graphics.

Translation: Consoles are behind PC's in power.

We already know that, tell us something we don't know.

Well shoot, as others have said, I will now go out and sell my PS3, 360, Wii, DS, PSP, and all of the games I have for them. Seriously Paint, do you ever ever just get tired of being such a fan boy? Its getting somewhat ridiculous now...

AR

scoobiesnackarf

He seems to think you cant enjoy any games without a k/m,quad core CPU, 4gb Ram and atleast an 8800gt

hopefully this will produce some great pc graphics, of corse without good games its fruitless. i just wish they would concentrate on making games scale better or preform better on lower requirements, thegoldenpoo

One of the many things the PCGA is working on

Of course they are going to say that, they are all about pumping out faster, newer, and expensive chipsets. That's fine with me, whatever technology they come out with today will be on the consoles 1-2 years from now. To bad games require more than good graphics to be good.DaBrainz

Gears of War? I mean if the game came out looking like Cod3 I'm sure it wouldn't have gotten such high ratings.

As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

Nvidia and Intel

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

jethrovegas

That doesn't take away what the article is stating.

[QUOTE="Nvidia and Intel"]

As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

jethrovegas

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

All GTAs have been on PC.. so..

I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.flazzle

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

[QUOTE="flazzle"]I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.Painballz

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

Maybe thats because its existed for like 20+ years. Most of the AAA's are really old and have been outdone now

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

Painballz

But it isn't, and neither are tons of excellent, generation defining titles that are already out, like Dead Rising or games that are coming out soon, like Ninja Gaiden 2.

How can console gaming be such an inferior experience when the consoles have such great games available for them that aren't on PC?

Yes all in all PC is ahead of consoles in practically every aspect. They don't really compare but y do we keep comparing them?

I know PC is included in fact I spend alot of time defending it. But I prefer comparing and discusing games on systems(PC wins there too IMO) rather then the systems themselves AND features, the only two that are anything like each other is Ps3 and x360. Nearly every gen PC is alot diffrent (duh) and this gen nintendo is alot diffrent.

The only time pc should be metioned as a system is when someone spews out false info about it. (ex. Pc can't do HD or PC cost $3000 just to enjoy the lowest quailty experience)

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

jethrovegas

But it isn't, and neither are tons of excellent, generation defining titles that are already out, like Dead Rising or games that are coming out soon, like Ninja Gaiden 2.

How can console gaming be such an inferior experience when the consoles have such great games available for them that aren't on PC?

Dude Consoles always play catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.angelkimne

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

Maybe thats because its existed for like 20+ years. Most of the AAA's are really old and have been outdone now

It's still like that even if you count from the beginning of the 360s cycle :|

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

jethrovegas

But it isn't, and neither are tons of excellent, generation defining titles that are already out, like Dead Rising or games that are coming out soon, like Ninja Gaiden 2.

How can console gaming be such an inferior experience when the consoles have such great games available for them that aren't on PC?

Superior is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, PC's have the ability to do what consoles do, except they can do more and better than consoles.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Jethro Vegas has something to say to Intel and Nvidia:

Grand Theft Auto IV.

Nagidar

But it isn't, and neither are tons of excellent, generation defining titles that are already out, like Dead Rising or games that are coming out soon, like Ninja Gaiden 2.

How can console gaming be such an inferior experience when the consoles have such great games available for them that aren't on PC?

Superior is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, PC's have the ability to do what consoles do, except they can do more and better than consoles.

yes, i agree for an example multiplats on PC have mods, Custom maps, higher player counts etc.

[QUOTE="flazzle"]I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.Painballz

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

..PC gaming has been around longer than console gaming has :|

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.jangojay

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

Maybe thats because its existed for like 20+ years. Most of the AAA's are really old and have been outdone now

It's still like that even if you count from the beginning of the 360s cycle :|

Is it? Thanks for proving me wrong, i will be looking forward to that pc upgrade in July :D

I have nothing against consoles, but I'll continue to prefer console gaming over pc gaming. Just a question Painballz, what do you have against consoles? I swear I see at least one thread a day from you about why consoles suck. If pc gaming is so great why aren't you doing that instead of constantly trying to convince others of pc's greatness?

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]I'd care if i was a graphic whore. but instead im a gameplay whore.lawlessx

PC has the most AAAE's so yea PC= Gameplay+Graphics

..PC gaming has been around longer than console gaming has :|

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

Painballz

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Thats all up to each individual, do you buy the inferior console version now, or wait for the superior PC version later?

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...Painballz

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

As far as graphics go, newer games on PC still have little appeal to me than console games, and the best graphics aren't going to help if the game itself is mediocre.Supafly1

I agree 100% with this, but lets get one thing straight, how a game plays is up to the devs, not the PC itself.

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...Painballz

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

Spamming me with a bunch of AAA title names doesn't change anything.

You said consoles "always play catch up", and I said "O RLY" and provided evidence to show that consoles stand shoulder to shoulder with PC when it comes to games and innovation, and now all you can do is defend your original statement by pointing to critical scores for titles on the PC, something we weren't talking about in the first place?

Nice cop out. :|

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...jethrovegas

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

Spamming me with a bunch of AAA title names doesn't change anything.

You said consoles "always play catch up", and I said "O RLY" and provided evidence to show that consoles stand shoulder to shoulder with PC when it comes to games and innovation, and now all you can do is defend your original statement by pointing to critical scores for titles on the PC, something we weren't talking about in the first place?

Nice cop out. :|

PC's have higher standards than console games.

No PC game has ever gotten a 10 when many should have.

But on consoles games like Tony Hawk 3 get a 10/10

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...jethrovegas

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

Spamming me with a bunch of AAA title names doesn't change anything.

You said consoles "always play catch up", and I said "O RLY" and provided evidence to show that consoles stand shoulder to shoulder with PC when it comes to games and innovation, and now all you can do is defend your original statement by pointing to critical scores for titles on the PC, something we weren't talking about in the first place?

Nice cop out. :|

Consoles have different standards than PC's, its not a copout, its a FACT, games are scored based off of the platform it was made for, and power wise, consoles do play catch up to PC's.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...Painballz

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

Spamming me with a bunch of AAA title names doesn't change anything.

You said consoles "always play catch up", and I said "O RLY" and provided evidence to show that consoles stand shoulder to shoulder with PC when it comes to games and innovation, and now all you can do is defend your original statement by pointing to critical scores for titles on the PC, something we weren't talking about in the first place?

Nice cop out. :|

PC's have higher standards than console games.

No PC game has ever gotten a 10 when many should have.

But on consoles games like Tony Hawk 3 get a 10/10

Selfownage much?

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]So basically they are saying graphics are what makes games good...Nagidar

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Dude Consoles alwaysplay catch up, PC has always been revolutionized each genre it steps it foot in.

jethrovegas

Is that a fact? Because in terms of the present, you are the ones who are playing the 6-12 months waiting game with titles like, oh say, GTA IV, a game that us poor, inferior, console goobers have been playing for a week.

And in terms of the past, consoles have shared just as much of the innovation pie as the PC, if not more, with Zelda I, Ocarina of Time, GTA III, Super Mario 64, and many other titles that "revolutionized" entire genres.

And in this generation there are tons of great games that are not available on PC, so how are consoles playing catch up again? Please, do tell.

Dude, I'll let the LONG list of AAA's on PC do the talking

Spamming me with a bunch of AAA title names doesn't change anything.

You said consoles "always play catch up", and I said "O RLY" and provided evidence to show that consoles stand shoulder to shoulder with PC when it comes to games and innovation, and now all you can do is defend your original statement by pointing to critical scores for titles on the PC, something we weren't talking about in the first place?

Nice cop out. :|

Consoles have different standards than PC's, its not a copout, its a FACT, games are scored based off of the platform it was made for, and power wise, consoles do play catch up to PC's.

agreed

As far as graphics go, newer games on PC still have little appeal to me than console games, and the best graphics aren't going to help if the game itself is mediocre.Supafly1

I'll bring it up again.. Gears of War.

High end PCs only 3 times powerful than the consoles ;). This is bad news for fanboys who say that "High end" PCs are 10-20 times powerful. dk_2007

"In terms of raw processing power, the high-end PCs are at least three times more powerful"

Read the bold.

Awesome!!!!

Now that you have proved it to me, I will sell my PS3, my HDTV, my stereo, my entertainment stand, my speakers, my controllers, my Blu-Ray movies, my DVD's, my PSP, my PSP games, my PSP case, and everything other than PC and PC games just because PC dominates allzorz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You fail because this is an opinion argument at best.

Some like PC, some like consoles, it's nothing to lose sleep over if some people don't like your PC games.

RotaryRX7