iPod / iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> DS + PSP

hooray for 1 hour battery life!

No way would I ever buy a DS or a PSP. They are only gaming devices. However, a iPhone and a iPod Touch both have features that people use anyways, and as such create a scenario where you are likely to have one anyways. Now that gaming on iPhone and iPod is revving up... I honestly think the iPhone / iPod is going to enter into the realm of serious gaming software. It's already got some awesome games, and is bound to get more as time goes by.

I'm sure Sony and Nintendo are a bit scared right now.

SquatsAreAwesom

First of all, PSP and DS aren't just gaming devices, the PSP plays music, videos, lets you view photos, and has an internet browser. No, Sony and DS aren't scared. IPhone has a very lackluster library of games and the touch controls make playing conventional FPSs, RPGS, action/adventure etc harder. It is also $200 more.

i cna't even think of 5 iphone games that are good

face it is an IPHONe ot may have some games but not realy good ones

My touch is great for the free games but I never pay a penny for any of the games and Iphone is to expensive where I could have a real phone and get upgraded parts for my pc

I have an iphone and have tried many of its games just to be disappointed. One visit to the app store and you should see hundreds of games that are very very simplistic or are basically the same game with a different name. For example, an "online" text-based game in which you gather money to buy weapons to battle other players. There are over 20 games that have exactly this same type of gameplay, one for racing, mafia, rock bands, even pets... :(

As was said before, I think the iphone is aimed at the casual crowd. It has technical potential, though, and with time, there can be great games on it.

I wouldn't invest on something that's built to music and brings rip-off titles and parlor games.

iTouch and iPhone's great, but not in games.

When Iphone gets games like Zelda:Phantom Hourglass, New Super Mario Bros, Liberty/Vice City Stories, Patapon, Ratchet and Clank/Jak and Daxter, Pokemon, Advance Wars, then give me a call and I might pick one up. Until then, I enjoy my Ipod Touch for music, pictures, and videos, and my DS and psp for videogames.

Uh what? I never use my iPod Touch for gaming. It's terrible for it.siLVURcross

Same here, i have a total of 3 games, and all of them are time killers, pocket god, trism, and air traffic control. All three of them are good for one thing, killing a good 15 minute train ride or waiting in a long line.

Yeah, because I always make sure my VIDEO GAMES have a cell phone. Just look at the games and tell me with a straight face Iphone is better.NintendoLover00

The iPhone is shiny.

Shiny wins.

I have a DS Lite already and a Ipod Classic 80GB. If I was to buy a new device, it would either be a PSP 3000 or the new Zune.

I have a DS Lite already and a Ipod Classic 80GB. If I was to buy a new device, it would either be a PSP 3000 or the new Zune.

TheGreatOutdoor

Zune sucks.

I said it.

It has games.

War now.

Cept the games are = to free flash games while psp and ds are full fledged games. SAGE_OF_FIRE

it has a Brothers in arms game.

And a Cube port. (free)

plus what the hell is wrong with flash games?

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Cept the games are = to free flash games while psp and ds are full fledged games. Irick_cb

it has a Brothers in arms game.

And a Cube port. (free)

plus what the hell is wrong with flash games?

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Cept the games are = to free flash games while psp and ds are full fledged games. SAGE_OF_FIRE

it has a Brothers in arms game.

And a Cube port. (free)

plus what the hell is wrong with flash games?

I don't think they compete.

It's like saying Nintendo is afraid of Palm.

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

I have a DS Lite already and a Ipod Classic 80GB. If I was to buy a new device, it would either be a PSP 3000 or the new Zune.

Irick_cb

Zune sucks.

I said it.

It has games.

War now.

Iphone/ipod touch are just mobile games, something equivalent to browser games(that;s propably why Apple insist on not adding flash support for iphone). Sure they are nice, but it's like with PCgames...DS/PSP would be normal retail games, while iphone would be browser games.

There are also some very serious problems with iphone/ipod touch as gaming devices: they're insanely expensive, they have no physical buttons, the app store is so crowded it's already getting hard for most devs to make by and last..each year Apple introduces a new more powerful hardware and devs are struggling more and more with this target platform segmentation (with DS and PSP it's all compatibile across all hardware versions)

add to this the fact that everyone who bought psp or ds is a gamer, while only small percentage of iphone/ipod touch users are gamers, so the sales numbers are nowhere near comparable

ipod/iphone aren't "real" gaming devices. Would someone seriously consider a ipod or iphone as opposed to ds/psp when it comes to playing games? i assume not. Also, playing games on ipod/iphone drains the battery in like 45mins if playing a hefty app with full 3d graphics and what not...

A few AAA games on the Iphone worth buying.

Firemint Real Racing9.0 -Racing

Lasting Appeal

"Career mode alone is worth hours of play, but online leagues boosts Real Racing's longevity into weeks -- if not months."

Star Defense9.0 -Strategy

Gameplay
"Star Defense has excellent enemy-tower balance. Great controls make it easy to manipulate the planets and position your towers."

Zenonia9.0 -RPG

9.0Presentation
Great presentation from the opening cinema to the easy-to-read menus and item descriptions.9.0Graphics
Gorgeous from front to back. Exquisite use of color. The game truly pops.8.5Sound
Great music and sound effects.9.0Gameplay
Fun action battles keep the game moving right along. Clever skill tree system.9.0Lasting Appeal
A fantastic value for your money. Gamevil says there are 40 hours in here. There's probably much more.

Peggle 9.0 - Puzzle

Lasting Appeal
Almost 100 levels and a good price makes this a tremendous value.

Now for some awesome AA games.

The Sims 3 8.5 - Simulation

"This is not some port. This is real deal Sims for the iPhone."-- IGN

Myst 8.5 - Adventure

"The ****c has never looked -- or played -- better." -IGN

Prey 8.0 - Shooter

Graphics
Great texture work and architecture. Nice weapon animations.- IGN

These games are really fun and I do consider the Iphone/Ipod Touch to be gaming devices. 40 hour RPG's and arguabley the best graphics avalible on a hand held. And Marble Blast just got released on the app store!

All of the above titles are also exclusive with the exception of The Sims 3, and Myst.

Hardly a joke thread. Just head over to IGN's iphone section and see the quality games yourself. The ability to make quality games on it has only been around for a year, and there is already some support coming on board. Riddle me this... what makes the PSP or the DS that much better then an iPod or iPhone, hardware wise? SquatsAreAwesom

ove titles are also exclusive with the exception of The Sims 3, and Myst.

madmidnight

new prey version or a port of the one from PC?

The iPhone is great for games.

I seriously love FF CC tower defence (not joking)

I just don't know if anyone will buy it just for games.

Any of the ways, if Apple is included, they are certainty doing very well in the gaming market.

Which is a very good thing.

I love apple.

[QUOTE="madmidnight"]

ove titles are also exclusive with the exception of The Sims 3, and Myst.

Irick_cb

new prey version or a port of the one from PC?

The iPhone is great for games.

I seriously love FF CC tower defence (not joking)

I just don't know if anyone will buy it just for games.

Any of the ways, if Apple is included, they are certainty doing very well in the gaming market.

Which is a very good thing.

I love apple.

Myst 8.5 - Adventure

"The ****c has never looked -- or played -- better." -IGN

madmidnight

I wonder if the rest of IGN iphone reviews fail this badly at credibility as this one

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All of the above titles are also exclusive with the exception of The Sims 3, and Myst.

madmidnight

[QUOTE="madmidnight"]

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All of the above titles are also exclusive with the exception of The Sims 3, and Myst.

AdrianWerner

Ok, doesn't deminish the quality. I have myst on both PC and the Iphone.. I'd have to go with the Iphone version for the enjoyment factor. The point of this thread has really become a debate on whether or not the iphone is a gaming device. I believe I have provided evidence that it is. What about the other games I've listed?madmidnight

I belive you have proven your point quite effectively.

Nit picking doesn't really take away from that impact.

Furthermore-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

I have myst on both PC and the Iphone.. I'd have to go with the Iphone version for the enjoyment factor.madmidnight

.more enjoyment? Really? How? It looks worse, it sounds worse, the controls are more clunky, making notes is a lot harder with iphone (and how can anyone play Myst without making proper notes on paper) and looses a lot of atmosphere.

Och well there are evesome people prefer Wii's Call of Duty over 360 one, so I guess there are bound to be players who prefer Myst on iphone too.

The point of this thread has really become a debate on whether or not the iphone is a gaming device. I believe I have provided evidence that it is. What about the other games I've listed?madmidnight

[QUOTE="madmidnight"]I have myst on both PC and the Iphone.. I'd have to go with the Iphone version for the enjoyment factor.AdrianWerner

.more enjoyment? Really? How? It looks worse, it sounds worse, the controls are more clunky, making notes is a lot harder with iphone (and how can anyone play Myst without making proper notes on paper) and looses a lot of atmosphere.

Och well there are evesome people prefer Wii's Call of Duty over 360 one, so I guess there are bound to be players who prefer Myst on iphone too.

Do you see that?

Do you see what you did there?

you answered your own question.

And i can think of reasons it would be a better gameing experiance.

personaly touching the clues and objects would be one up.

the other would be the porability factor.

And i can think of reasons it would be a better gameing experiance.

personaly touching the clues and objects would be one up.

the other would be the porability factor.

Irick_cb

you aren't touching clues and objects, you're tapping on glass :]

And portability? The one that makes it look worse, sound worse, loose a lot of it's atmosphere, makes it more tyring on eyes thanks to little details and a lot of text to be read and makes taking notes hard as hell?

I can understand how some people might prefer it, doesn';t change the fact it's inferior version. Just because it's inferior by objective criterias doesn't mean that there won't be people who will like it better

No way would I ever buy a DS or a PSP. They are only gaming devices. However, a iPhone and a iPod Touch both have features that people use anyways, and as such create a scenario where you are likely to have one anyways. Now that gaming on iPhone and iPod is revving up... I honestly think the iPhone / iPod is going to enter into the realm of serious gaming software. It's already got some awesome games, and is bound to get more as time goes by.

I'm sure Sony and Nintendo are a bit scared right now.

SquatsAreAwesom

People making a fool of themselves is becoming a fad these days.

you aren't touching clues and objects, you're tapping on glass :]

And portability? The one that makes it look worse, sound worse, loose a lot of it's atmosphere, makes it more tyring on eyes thanks to little details and a lot of text to be read and makes taking notes hard as hell?

I can understand how some people might prefer it, doesn';t change the fact it's inferior version. Just because it's inferior by objective criterias doesn't mean that there won't be people who will like it better

AdrianWerner

Gaming is Objectively a waste of time. Fact.

I don't think _ANYONE_ is claiming the iPhone is superior to the PC.

The "from a technical perspective, it's crap" argument really doesn't fly.

[QUOTE="DealRogers"]

Maybe thats why the iPhone costs like $200 more than DS and PSP.

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

it actually costs less than both.WilliamRLBaker

the future.

I predicted it.

No way would I ever buy a DS or a PSP. They are only gaming devices. However, a iPhone and a iPod Touch both have features that people use anyways, and as such create a scenario where you are likely to have one anyways. Now that gaming on iPhone and iPod is revving up... I honestly think the iPhone / iPod is going to enter into the realm of serious gaming software. It's already got some awesome games, and is bound to get more as time goes by.

I'm sure Sony and Nintendo are a bit scared right now.

SquatsAreAwesom

yep am sure both are discussing the possibility to abandon the Handheld market...

Seriously i got an iPhone and while its a great phone with many functions, thats all it is.. I did enjoy a couple of games on it like MGS but surely wont take my PSP's place as the gaminghandheld...

Most of the games for Iphone/touch are also less than $10. You can also get the original Wolfenstein 3D and Carmack says he is going to develop some new games for Iphone as well as get a Quake on there. Iphone/Touch serve the same purpose as PSP/DS but they do it better, portable gaming is suppose to keep you occupied while you are away from home i.e. car trips, plane/train rides, work, school. Iphones and Ipod Touch are way better at the pick up and go, DS and PSP games have become to console like.

Iphone is a bad phone, never mind a handheld

Lol? A joke...right?

>.> Yes, I only read the title.

Iphone is a bad phone, never mind a handheld

35cent

[QUOTE="adman66"]this thread has as much truth to it as saying tha ms is scared of apple and thier overpriced pos mac computers Irick_cb

Which is exactly why they launched a marketing program to counter Apples slow but effective slam against Vista.

Because Microsoft has no fear of Apple.

Microsoft is the future.