is 360 worthless if you have a pc

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"] and i added FFv13, and 3 out of 6 is half. Get it? :DPS3Fanaddict

And even then, you said "half of those games are exclusive to the PS3, AND FFvXIII", meaning, grammatically speaking, that you were referring to those games he listed, and ONLY those games. Grade-school grammatical knowledge, really. Of course, so is spelling out "you" and capitalizing i's in the self-referrential usage.

Dead rising is also coming to PS3

condemned 2 is on PS3 :DPS3Fanaddict

Dead rising is also coming to PS3Warzone876

[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

just wondering would one have any point of having a 360 if they had a pc when alot of 360s games are on the pc. With that said would the best pairing be pc/wii or pc/ps3

so_hai

Fixed your post. You can thank me later.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]but Xbox live >Steamyoyo462001

[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

just wondering would one have any point of having a 360 if they had a pc when alot of 360s games are on the pc. With that said would the best pairing be pc/wii or pc/ps3

so_hai

... I see you and the TC get along great with fanboys ishhh.

Steam is better than live . Besides that it hs instant messaging.

There are plenty of good games on the 360 that are not on the PC.Locke562

actually Condemned 2, it is on the ps3 AND pcPS3Fanaddict

Strangely it does not say it's on PC when you click on the game @ GS.

[QUOTE="Locke562"]There are plenty of good games on the 360 that are not on the PC.skrat_01

[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"]actually Condemned 2, it is on the ps3 AND pcBebi_vegeta

Strangely it does not say it's on PC when you click on the game @ GS.

Abd there's a buncha 360 games not on the PS3 OR PC either. How nice it is to live in the real world, amiright gents? 8)Verge_6

I agree.... PC + PS3 makes the best combo possible.

Ventrilo... teamspeak are all better.Bebi_vegeta

In short, yes. Frankly, all consoles are worthless IMO if you have a gaming PC. More content in the games on PC than any other platform. Will always keep you occupied. But, yes, most of the 360 exclusives aren't exclusives at all. They are usuallynot only on PC but are far superior on PC.

In short, yes. Frankly, all consoles are worthless IMO if you have a gaming PC. More content in the games on PC than any other platform. Will always keep you occupied. But, yes, most of the 360 exclusives aren't exclusives at all. They are usuallynot only on PC but are far superior on PC.

Puckhog04

Well, if they are also on PC, then they are multiplat. Even so, there are still exclusive games on the 360 that are worth checking out.

In short, yes. Frankly, all consoles are worthless IMO if you have a gaming PC. More content in the games on PC than any other platform. Will always keep you occupied. But, yes, most of the 360 exclusives aren't exclusives at all. They are usuallynot only on PC but are far superior on PC.

Puckhog04

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Ventrilo... teamspeak are all better.lowe0

If ur a fan of halo 3 or gears 2 or fable 2 as of now they are only on the 360. Other than that the 360 is worthless with or without a good PC.

If ur a fan of halo 3 or gears 2 or fable 2 as of now they are only on the 360. Other than that the 360 is worthless with or without a good PC.

insomnia37

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If ur a fan of halo 3 or gears 2 or fable 2 as of now they are only on the 360. Other than that the 360 is worthless with or without a good PC.

foxhound_fox

You answer your posts intelligently but your xbox fanboyism ruins that.

You answer your posts with intelligentlyWarzone876

[QUOTE="Warzone876"]

You answer your posts with intelligentlyVerge_6

:lol: My goodness!

lol yea okay I failed there. But everyone makes mistakes.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Ventrilo... teamspeak are all better.lowe0

I guess you haven't use a 3rd party program that's better then Microsoft before? There's so many option from both teamspeak and ventrilo... if you want a list of options i'd sugest you look into it yourself as it will explain to you even better then I can.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Ventrilo... teamspeak are all better.KodiakGTS

Can you explain what was so great about the post?

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

In short, yes. Frankly, all consoles are worthless IMO if you have a gaming PC. More content in the games on PC than any other platform. Will always keep you occupied. But, yes, most of the 360 exclusives aren't exclusives at all. They are usually not only on PC but are far superior on PC.

organic_machine

Well, if they are also on PC, then they are multiplat. Even so, there are still exclusive games on the 360 that are worth checking out.

Uh, well...yea, that goes without saying. On two platforms = multiplat...i thought that would be common sense though.

I never said there weren't but it depends on the person and the majority of high rated 360 exclusives are on PC and are superior (same can be said for PS3 as well).

PC and PS3 = Best combo .That way no billing for online play and best games.

PC and PS3 = Best combo .That way no billing for online play and best games.

Warzone876

Uh, well...yea, that goes without saying. On two platforms = multiplat...i thought that would be common sense though.Puckhog04

Okay.

the majority of high rated 360 exclusives are on PC and are superior (same can be said for PS3 as well).Puckhog04

Wait, the majority of 360 exclusives on PC? Then they wouldn't be exclusive! You said it yourself.

On two platforms = multiplat...i thought that would be common sense though.Puckhog04

You're contradicting yourself here. What exactly are you saying?

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Okay.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]the majority of high rated 360 exclusives are on PC and are superior (same can be said for PS3 as well).organic_machine

Wait, the majority of 360 exclusives on PC? Then they wouldn't be exclusive! You said it yourself.

On two platforms = multiplat...i thought that would be common sense though.Puckhog04

You're contradicting yourself here. What exactly are you saying?

People quote them as the so called "console exclusive". Don't act like you don't know the term.

My point is the majority of high rated games on the 360 are on PC as well. Most of those like L4D, Gears of War, etc. are all on PC as well and are superior on PC. That's all. You sound really defensive. :|

People quote them as the so called "console exclusive". Don't act like you don't know the term.

My point is the majority of high rated games on the 360 are on PC as well. Most of those like L4D, Gears of War, etc. are all on PC as well and are superior on PC. That's all. You sound really defensive. :|

Puckhog04

I am not defensive, I am merely combating the notion that exclusive only pertains to consoles. People really do have that notion. When talking about console exclusives, please call them console exclusives. And yes, they are Native Americans, NOT Indians!!! :P

Anyhow, I don't disagree that the multiplats are better, in fact, I think "better" is an understatement. The multiplats are vastly superior on PC. But that doesn't make the 360 "worthless." That is what this thread is about, the 360 being worthless. It has exclusives, not on PC or PS3, that are great depending on your taste. That in an of itself would deem the system with some kind of value. It's not for everyone, I don't even own one, nor do I want one. But it's not worthless.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

People quote them as the so called "console exclusive". Don't act like you don't know the term.

My point is the majority of high rated games on the 360 are on PC as well. Most of those like L4D, Gears of War, etc. are all on PC as well and are superior on PC. That's all. You sound really defensive. :|

organic_machine

I am not defensive, I am merely combating the notion that exclusive only pertains to consoles. People really do have that notion. When talking about console exclusives, please call them console exclusives. And yes, they are Native Americans, NOT Indians!!! :P

Anyhow, I don't disagree that the multiplats are better, in fact, I think "better" is an understatement. The multiplats are vastly superior on PC. But that doesn't make the 360 "worthless." That is what this thread is about, the 360 being worthless. It has exclusives, not on PC or PS3, that are great depending on your taste. That in an of itself would deem the system with some kind of value. It's not for everyone, I don't even own one, nor do I want one. But it's not worthless.

Agreed on all points. Though by that definition no platform is worthless though. All one can do is talk about it from their standpoint i guess. :) That's what i was doing. Ironically enough, I own a 360. It's literally onlymy 4th console i've ever owned since 1990 (as i've been a PC gamer since the beg.), that's it, but i do own one. Got the RROD once already. I didn't technically pay for it as it was a "moving out" gift from my parents a few years ago. Needless to say the one exclusive that I do enjoy is Dead Rising (of which Dead Rising 2 isreleasing onPC so there goes the need for it on 360) and i only own 2 games on it.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Ventrilo... teamspeak are all better.lowe0

Fantastic audio quality at that. XBL is horrid in comparison.

Not that it really matters that much anyway, Steam and Xfire both have voice chat built right in, and essentially every game / mod has voice support right out. Although yeah its not nearly as good as Ventrilo's.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm having a hard time imaging better than "built right into the system's network API, with no need to coordinate which program you're using or which server you'll connect to." Humor me with specifics.Bebi_vegeta

I guess you haven't use a 3rd party program that's better then Microsoft before? There's so many option from both teamspeak and ventrilo... if you want a list of options i'd sugest you look into it yourself as it will explain to you even better then I can.

Not that it really matters that much anyway, Steam and Xfire both have voice chat built right in, and essentially every game / mod has voice support right out. Although yeah its not nearly as good as Ventrilo's.skrat_01

Having it built into the game itself is fine (although it's a waste of programming time writing something that could be done perfectly well in a system library). It's when you have multiple external systems that you end up having to coordinate VoIP apps and servers. It's work that the gamer simply shouldn't have to do - the game already knows who you're playing with, so it should take care of it for me.

That said, there's still no unified identity management on PCs. How does one know that Lowe0 on Steam is the same person as Lowe0 on GfW Live? How does one invite someone playing a Steam game to play a non-Steam game; what if they don't even have Steam? Conversely, if they want to block or mute someone, how do they do it once and have it also apply on Steam/Live/Xfire/any single-game identity manager?

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm having a hard time imaging better than "built right into the system's network API, with no need to coordinate which program you're using or which server you'll connect to." Humor me with specifics.lowe0

I guess you haven't use a 3rd party program that's better then Microsoft before? There's so many option from both teamspeak and ventrilo... if you want a list of options i'd sugest you look into it yourself as it will explain to you even better then I can.

Yes, it's really hard to manage one program... All you need is ventrilo or teamspeak... I never said you needed both.

I'm sorry, you might think because it's in the API that it's better or simpler... But option and quality wise it's not, and I don't see how hard it can be to manage one 3rd party program.

PC gaming is clearly superior but that doesn't mean the 360 is worthless lol. Unfortunately cheap gaming aka console gaming will always be popular so its the only way I can play with some of my friends. Obviously I would have preferred if they all had high end pc's.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I guess you haven't use a 3rd party program that's better then Microsoft before? There's so many option from both teamspeak and ventrilo... if you want a list of options i'd sugest you look into it yourself as it will explain to you even better then I can.

Bebi_vegeta

Yes, it's really hard to manage one program... All you need is ventrilo or teamspeak... I never said you needed both.

I'm sorry, you might think because it's in the API that it's better or simpler... But option and quality wise it's not, and I don't see how hard it can be to manage one 3rd party program.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]but Xbox live >Steamyoyo462001

Because you're not just managing one program. Not everyone uses the same one.lowe0

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Which was kinda my point. Having more than one VoIP system for a given purpose kinda defeats Metcalfe's Law, ya know?lowe0

Yes, it's really hard to manage one program... All you need is ventrilo or teamspeak... I never said you needed both.

I'm sorry, you might think because it's in the API that it's better or simpler... But option and quality wise it's not, and I don't see how hard it can be to manage one 3rd party program.

What do you mean not everyone is using the same... wouldn't all your friends be using the same?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Because you're not just managing one program. Not everyone uses the same one.anshul89

What do you mean not everyone is using the same... wouldn't all your friends be using the same?Bebi_vegeta

While I'd certainly be happy if I could play every match exclusively against my friends instead of randoms, I doubt I could get 15 of my friends to make time to play a game at the exact same time. As such, I'm inevitably going to wind up on a team with someone using a chat system other than the one I'm using. If my teammate's on Ventrilo and I'm on in-game VoIP, how am I supposed to communicate with them - smoke signals? Carrier pigeons?

[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

just wondering would one have any point of having a 360 if they had a pc when alot of 360s games are on the pc. With that said would the best pairing be pc/wii or pc/ps3

obamanian

There is a point, all the game PC does not get, the ease of use, no frustration, buying new OS, Video cards, patches for game breaking bugs and incompatibilities etc etc

In fact, since 360 gets all the PC games i need and boubles that wityh its own exclusives i would never miss, it is 100% worthless for me having a PC when i can have a 360 for 1/5 the price

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Because you're not just managing one program. Not everyone uses the same one.lowe0

Then just use the server which can be accessed by teamspeak or ventrilo?