Is Blu-Ray Necessary?

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"] [QUOTE="lebanese_boy"]

You can always take the hard-drive with you over at your friend's house :?

Also with digital distribution there has been a notable decrease in piracy. Discs have always been the gateway for pirates.

lebanese_boy

so many things wrong with that can I just say "no"? :|

iTunes says you're wrong :|

that be worth posting if there wasn't a million other places to download a song :|

short answer, yes it's needed. I know that MS fanboys dont like to admit it, just like the sheep didn't like to admit that DVD was needed in the ps2 era. although i dont think blu-ray was needed this gen. but for next gen i think we'll need a bigger storage medium then dvd's can handle. and dont say DD, we're still far away from making that a reality, plus most people like to have a physical disc rather then just a digital copy to show for their money. enygma500

So the short answer is yes its needed but then you go on to say you don't think its needed this gen.

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Contradicting logic at its finest.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]short answer, yes it's needed. I know that MS fanboys dont like to admit it, just like the sheep didn't like to admit that DVD was needed in the ps2 era. although i dont think blu-ray was needed this gen. but for next gen i think we'll need a bigger storage medium then dvd's can handle. and dont say DD, we're still far away from making that a reality, plus most people like to have a physical disc rather then just a digital copy to show for their money. Blackbond

So the short answer is yes its needed but then you go on to say you don't think its needed this gen.

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Contradicting logic at its finest.

iTunes says you're wrong :|

lebanese_boy

that be worth posting if there wasn't a million other places to download a song :|

FragTycoon

You're clearly missing out the point of this post.

If iTunes never came, the music industry would probably be dead by now because of the massive piracy.

If Steam never came, there would be less game developers interested in making PC games.

If you're still not seeing a patern here then I think you'll never understand...

[QUOTE="lebanese_boy"]

iTunes says you're wrong :|

SpruceCaboose

I never said that, I just said that it decreased with the digital distribution on the scene. And no it's not as big as before....

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

that be worth posting if there wasn't a million other places to download a song :|

lebanese_boy

You're clearly missing out the point of this post.

If iTunes never came, the music industry would probably be dead by now because of the massive piracy.

If Steam never came, there would be less game developers interested in making PC games.

If you're still not seeing a patern here then I think you'll never understand...

Nope! It's not necessary. DVDs are completely capable of HD movies. Blu-Ray really isn't needed, but Sony feels that the standard video medium needs to be changed.

Probably for piracy purposes.

Micropixel

dvds arent capable of HD ( a single dvd that is) the batman movie is over 10gig, dvd cant hold tht.

mgs4 is 50g, dvd cant do that...

its nessicery for convience

[QUOTE="Micropixel"]

Nope! It's not necessary. DVDs are completely capable of HD movies. Blu-Ray really isn't needed, but Sony feels that the standard video medium needs to be changed.

Probably for piracy purposes.

iesexywarden

dvds arent capable of HD ( a single dvd that is) the batman movie is over 10gig, dvd cant hold tht.

mgs4 is 50g, dvd cant do that...

its nessicery for convience

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Nope. The only people who will tell you Blu Ray is anything more than a luxury at this point are huge PS3 fans.FragTycoon

Entertainment in general is a luxury.

I just don't understand why so many people want to install games on their consoles.:? That and the controller are the only things that separate consoles and PCs. I want to be able to pop in and play not have to wait and install.Giant_Panda

As we're entering an era of digital distribution, I'd say any physical media format is become less useful and much certainly blu-ray as well. lebanese_boy

[QUOTE="tbolt76"]I agree, but the PS3 isn't the only system out there. You do not "have" to buy it, [...]foxhound_fox

You don't have to buy anything, you have the option to forgo the system and exclusives all together. If you want a game console that is catered to you and you alone, you should start your own company. Every console is going to have something that everyone wants and something not everyone wants. Everyone console can lose some component of it that can make it cheaper to manufacturer and cheaper for the consumer. Some people complained about the Xbox having a built-in ethernet and HDD, both of which (if absent) would probably have lowered the console $100.

Hell i don't have an HD TV, so screw Sony and MS for including HDMI. They could have saved me $5 by not including the component, and hell, why im at it, I mainly play 1 player games, so i could have save another $30+ if Sony gets rid of their ethernet and wireless connections.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Nope. The only people who will tell you Blu Ray is anything more than a luxury at this point are huge PS3 fans.The_Game21x

Entertainment in general is a luxury.

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]Wouldn't you need a large HDD though? and the time it takes to install all those games im sure it equals the amount of time it takes for a system to read the disc so what's the difference? foxhound_fox

And look at those that don't, Killzone 2

[QUOTE="Asim90"]If you want the market to progress, then of course it is. It gives developers more freedom and more space to work with. It also eliminates multiple disks, which is great for developers and great for us as there is much less risk of the game getting damaged. So in my opinion, for progess; yes it is necessary.Dreams-Visions

I'm sure that may happen at some point, but you know very well that's its not going to happen anytime soon

I doubt anybody here knows.bethwo

i can't call it fact, but isn't it obvious sony gave us some bits of the ps3 hardware that we really didn't ask for and maybe not even need? i mean show of hands if you think every bit of the playstation 3 hardware was essential. and as far as blu-rays success goes i think it has a bright future but it wouldn't surprise me if the reason we don't have season boxed sets like familyguy on blu-ray is because they are holding out for something more ethical to come to market. SmashingX

Nope! It's not necessary. DVDs are completely capable of HD movies. Blu-Ray really isn't needed, but Sony feels that the standard video medium needs to be changed.

Probably for piracy purposes.

dvds arent capable of HD ( a single dvd that is) the batman movie is over 10gig, dvd cant hold tht.

mgs4 is 50g, dvd cant do that...

its nessicery for convience

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Entertainment in general is a luxury.

SpruceCaboose

Blu-Ray is neccessary because devs have said it was neccessary for the games they made, is that good enough for you?

Nothing is neccessary in life except water, food, and some shelter. Everything else is a luxury!

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Asim90"]If you want the market to progress, then of course it is. It gives developers more freedom and more space to work with. It also eliminates multiple disks, which is great for developers and great for us as there is much less risk of the game getting damaged. So in my opinion, for progess; yes it is necessary.Aclar00_basic

I'm sure that may happen at some point, but you know very well that's its not going to happen anytime soon

the more it looks like it everyday

bluray will replace dvd

really? i havent noticed. i only know 2 people with blu ray players and they mainly stick to dvds because theyre cheaper. they only buy blu-ray movies if its a must have like the Dark Knight.tikki25x

well do some research before you try to validate you argument, why you're wrong!

thats like what some people were saying about CDs years ago, "cartridges are fine , CDs are not necessary for games". well again blu ray isnt necessary but is a step up from DVDs, someday DVDs will be replaced as games take up more storage, it may not be blu ray as such, but defenitly some sort of higher capacity storage medium will appear and dominate in the near future, blu ray is a contender for that positionDarkman2007

lets not even mention digital downloads, because that technology isn't necessary either.

Blu-Ray is just the new technology and it's catching support in multiple media forms, Movies on blu-ray, TV shows on blu-ray, Games on blu-ray.

Nothing is necessary but what Blu-Ray has to offer is amazing and something that will only help games, so what is the problem?

thats like what some people were saying about CDs years ago, "cartridges are fine , CDs are not necessary for games". well again blu ray isnt necessary but is a step up from DVDs, someday DVDs will be replaced as games take up more storage, it may not be blu ray as such, but defenitly some sort of higher capacity storage medium will appear and dominate in the near future, blu ray is a contender for that positionDarkman2007

lets not even mention digital downloads, because that technology isn't necessary either.

Blu-Ray is just the new technology and it's catching support in multiple media forms, Movies on blu-ray, TV shows on blu-ray, Games on blu-ray.

Nothing is necessary but what Blu-Ray has to offer is amazing and something that will only help games, so what is the problem?

freediro

hey freediro how did you disprove my point? you just made it for me. DVDs are still outselling Blu-Ray by a ton and the average consumer, not your wanna be genius on some web-sight doesnt seem to be in a rush to switch over. of course its doing better but the numbers say that the vast majority of consumers are fine with regular old DVDS.tikki25x

i gave you numbers that show blu-ray is a expanding format that has a growing market. of course blu-ray isn't taking over dvd right now, but it will. You said you didn't see blu-ray becoming big and only knew a coupel people who buy blu-rays, well i showed you with that link that more and more people are buying blu-rays. So there you go does that explain it?

to the guy above talkign about digital downloads, i highly dout digital downloads will even be in nextgen consoles, large hardrives and downloading speeds are still way too slow and expensive to make it into the next consoles. i am not saying digital downloads wont be the future, it will, bu it won't be for a couple years and during those years blu-ray will be in place. you forget many people like to physically own things not just own data saved on a hard drive.

Blu-ray will continue to expand as more people see how much better it looks and sounds compared to dvd. Sure an upconverter can really improve a dvd but the image obtained from a new blu-ray like dark knight is incredible. The sound range on a blu-ray is also impressive, especially compared to hd on demand. I would get my movies from hd on demand if I thought that the quality was comparable. In fact I would prefer to just pay to watch it once since I don't care about collecting movies. Oh and I have access to both xbox live and cable hd.

Blu-ray will continue to expand as more people see how much better it looks and sounds compared to dvd. Sure an upconverter can really improve a dvd but the image obtained from a new blu-ray like dark knight is incredible. The sound range on a blu-ray is also impressive, especially compared to hd on demand. I would get my movies from hd on demand if I thought that the quality was comparable. In fact I would prefer to just pay to watch it once since I don't care about collecting movies. Oh and I have access to both xbox live and cable hd.

dc337

[QUOTE="dc337"]

Blu-ray will continue to expand as more people see how much better it looks and sounds compared to dvd. Sure an upconverter can really improve a dvd but the image obtained from a new blu-ray like dark knight is incredible. The sound range on a blu-ray is also impressive, especially compared to hd on demand. I would get my movies from hd on demand if I thought that the quality was comparable. In fact I would prefer to just pay to watch it once since I don't care about collecting movies. Oh and I have access to both xbox live and cable hd.

Dreams-Visions

The last few messages were about movies. But wtf ever, this is system wars. Who the hell really cares.