Is Crysis 2 a financial megaflop?

Meh crysis 2 was good on all platforms from all the news i've seen it also sold good and got good reviews.

The only other thing you can ask for it your game turn into a cult icon like call of duty that sells since it's call of duty.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Meh, they abandoned their PC core for the consolites and got screwed for it. Can't say I feel sorry for them.

WilliamRLBaker

Well they wouldn't have wasted all that money getting Cryengine running on the consoles...

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] why are you trying to take your own opinion/theories and force it on others without having cold hard facts to support them? Wait until we have a worldwide report..then talk about it being a flop sales wisei5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]general..did you just copy and paste a Wikipedia page?GeneralShowzer

ah ok..would be wise to link it along with your post.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] We have enough proof to say that the game will be lucky to make all that money dumped into it back. The best they can hope for. It's more than just wishful thinking at this point. They had two studios working on this, hell they bought another studio during production. How much would the budget for this game be?GeneralShowzer

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] We have enough proof to say that the game will be lucky to make all that money dumped into it back. The best they can hope for. It's more than just wishful thinking at this point. They had two studios working on this, hell they bought another studio during production. How much would the budget for this game be?GeneralShowzer

And your not doing the same right now by not waiting for a worldwide sales report? Your also not taking into account that games tend to sell overtime..like crysis

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] What proof? The NPD which gives no numbers and only covers US retail(Not even all retail at that)?

lawlessx

And your not doing the same right now by not waiting for a worldwide sales report?

You're wrong, again.

*killzone 2 stuff*

Yes, you're out of arguments.

GeneralShowzer

You're grasping straws to fit your own arguments.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

You're wrong, again.

*killzone 2 stuff*

Yes, you're out of arguments.

Wrong about what? What does that have to do with today? Copy-pasting a Wikipedia page that goes up to May of 2009 is your way of proving me wrong? lolStevo_the_gamer

Yep.

A wikipedia page with links to Sony financial reports.

In about the same amount of time it sold

600.000 in the US

1.000.000 Worldwide

Obviosly it sold more in the US than Europe obviosly. lol

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] What proof? The NPD which gives no numbers and only covers US retail(Not even all retail at that)?

lawlessx

And your not doing the same right now by not waiting for a worldwide sales report? Your also not taking into account that games tend to sell overtime..like crysis

Critical acclaim? Nope, 85 on metacritic is pretty average score these days.

Arguing any of this without any numbers at all sounds like a giant waste of time to me.

I don't care but crysis 2 is great.

Arguing any of this without any numbers at all sounds like a giant waste of time to me.

Teufelhuhn

There is a reason college professors don't allow students to use Wikipedia as a source ;)millerlight89

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Arguing any of this without any numbers at all sounds like a giant waste of time to me.

Randoggy

There is a reason college professors don't allow students to use Wikipedia as a source ;)millerlight89

dont know what to tell you, people just werent interested in crysis

If someone doesn't want to see the truth they wont see it.

You know, fine, it will sell millions over time.

SP shooters on consoles tend to do that.

Launching at N.7 on the biggest market for console games is disastrous, for a game they wanted to sell 7 million copies off.

If someone doesn't want to see the truth they wont see it.

You know, fine, it will sell millions over time.

SP shooters on consoles tend to do that.

GeneralShowzer

I read like a week ago or something that xbox had like 57% of the sales which was like 300k copies

I read like a week ago or something that xbox had like 57% of the sales

TheEpicGoat

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

If someone doesn't want to see the truth they wont see it.

You know, fine, it will sell millions over time.

SP shooters on consoles tend to do that.

lawlessx

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

If someone doesn't want to see the truth they wont see it.

You know, fine, it will sell millions over time.

SP shooters on consoles tend to do that.

lawlessx

this, and i think people these days rather buy used/priced drope copies over new ones. ive been seeing it happen alot

VGcharts pegs it at a little over 1million worldwide.

Although it is vgcharts.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

If someone doesn't want to see the truth they wont see it.

You know, fine, it will sell millions over time.

SP shooters on consoles tend to do that.

GeneralShowzer

I never saw one single Crysis 2 commercial on TV.DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I never saw one single Crysis 2 commercial on TV.lawlessx

ive seen it too much at this point...they usually play it after 10:30ish on certain networks

I never saw one single Crysis 2 commercial on TV.DragonfireXZ95

I saw the same one about 3 times or so.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I never saw one single Crysis 2 commercial on TV.eboyishere

ive seen it too much at this point...they usually play it after 10:30ish on certain networks

that's also where I've seen it but I don't watch very much tv.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I never saw one single Crysis 2 commercial on TV.eboyishere

ive seen it too much at this point...they usually play it after 10:30ish on certain networks

Obviosly it sold more in the US than Europe obviosly. lol

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] It's N.7...on it's launch month. That's pretty weak. What more do you need to figure out that this game is not a big sellers? Seriously. Not everything has to be spelled out. You're grasping straws to fit your own arguments. Bloated Budget + Bloated Marketing, N.7 is bad.GeneralShowzer

And your not doing the same right now by not waiting for a worldwide sales report? Your also not taking into account that games tend to sell overtime..like crysis

Critical acclaim? Nope, 85 on metacritic is pretty average score these days.

In the last year, only Reach and Black Ops have outscored it.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Obviosly it sold more in the US than Europe obviosly. lol

Stevo_the_gamer

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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Meh, they abandoned their PC core for the consolites and got screwed for it. Can't say I feel sorry for them.

DarkLink77

Crysis 2 will sell a few million. I think TC would like Crysis 2 to sell badly though.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

And your not doing the same right now by not waiting for a worldwide sales report? Your also not taking into account that games tend to sell overtime..like crysis

Cranler

Critical acclaim? Nope, 85 on metacritic is pretty average score these days.

In the last year, only Reach and Black Ops have outscored it.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] the PC core users would have bought it in droves right? all games on the PC have 100% sell through.

SaltyMeatballs

Crysis 2 will sell a few million. I think TC would like Crysis 2 to sell badly though.

It's not going to sell as must as Black Ops. Are they crazy? CoD: Black Ops is an established francise on game consoles. It already has a follow from the first time it hit the XBox 360 at launch. Crysis 2 will sell over a million easily on consoles, but it's not going to sell 5-6 million if that's what Crytek is thinking. They should have released this closer to the holidays. It has already sold over 800K worldwide on console in just 2 weeks though. That's not bad.

It's not going to sell as must as Black Ops. Are they crazy? CoD: Black Ops is an established francise on game consoles. It already has a follow from the first time it hit the XBox 360 at launch. Crysis 2 will sell over a million easily on consoles, but it's not going to sell 5-6 million if that's what Crytek is thinking. They should have released this closer to the holidays. It has already sold over 800K worldwide on console in just 2 weeks though. That's not bad.

blackace

And yes , Crytek is out of touch with reality.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The original Crysis/Crysis Warhead sold upwards of four million copies...GeneralShowzer

Crysis 2 will sell a few million. I think TC would like Crysis 2 to sell badly though.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Why would Crysis 2 sell over time? It's not a benchmark, it's not the one of the only big budget PC shooters (like Crysis) , why would it sell so much over time?

Critical acclaim? Nope, 85 on metacritic is pretty average score these days.

GeneralShowzer

In the last year, only Reach and Black Ops have outscored it.

You seem to be in love with Bulletstorm. If Bulletstorm was a sequel and the firstwas a sandbox style shooter with cutting edge graphics, would you still love it?

They expected to sell 7 million copies... They expected to score 94 in metacritic. I believe a lot of things went wrong.

The community is not very active it seens. Giving a quick look in Amazon, it's not top 10 anywhere. It is not on steam's top 20 played games. Their forums are just a trolling ground. Sales generally stop at 8 weeks from launch in consoles. At the end it should sell about maybe 2 million. In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.

It was up for one week in March, Homefront was up for two weeks in March thus had twice as long to sell copies

First 3 weeks ~ 60% of game sales for majority of games. Dragon Age 2 was up for longer than both and sold worse than Homefront.

These numbers don't tell us anything really except that Homefront sold better than Dragon Age 2 at retail in the US. It has been high on Steam's top seller list for a while too, you cannot conclude it is a flop at this stage.

Kinda reminds me of the Titan quest dev.. who bankrupted themselves trying to go into console development lol.

They expected to sell 7 million copies... They expected to score 94 in metacritic. I believe a lot of things went wrong.

The community is not very active it seens. Giving a quick look in Amazon, it's not top 10 anywhere. It is not on steam's top 20 played games. Their forums are just a trolling ground. Sales generally stop at 8 weeks from launch in consoles. At the end it should sell about maybe 2 million. In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.

Masculus

The way I see it,Crytek got greedy and now it´s in a situation where a multiplatform game on three systems may not sell as well as when the franchise was only on the PC. Then again,it may sell around as much but even then,way far from their goal.

It's in an astoundingly halfassed state for a game that has been out for nearly a month. The silent treatment we're given by Crytek probably won't help drive sales either.

I don't know if it's a megaflop or not. Honestly, I don't care. I know I like it and I bought it.

I also know the naysayers convinced me from buying the first two Crysis games until much later. After playing the first two games I thought they (the naysayers) were a bunch of loons.

If I listened now to the naysayers of Crysis 2, I'd probably be thinking the same thing over again a couple of years from now.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

They expected to sell 7 million copies... They expected to score 94 in metacritic. I believe a lot of things went wrong.

The community is not very active it seens. Giving a quick look in Amazon, it's not top 10 anywhere. It is not on steam's top 20 played games. Their forums are just a trolling ground. Sales generally stop at 8 weeks from launch in consoles. At the end it should sell about maybe 2 million. In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.

Arach666

The way I see it,Crytek got greedy and now it´s in a situation where a multiplatform game on three systems may not sell as well as when the franchise was only on the PC. Then again,it may sell around as much but even then,way far from their goal.

Let's not forget they spent alot more in advertising as well.