Is Crysis 2 a financial megaflop?

It was up for one week in March, Homefront was up for two weeks in March thus had twice as long to sell copies

First 3 weeks ~ 60% of game sales for majority of games. Dragon Age 2 was up for longer than both and sold worse than Homefront.

These numbers don't tell us anything really except that Homefront sold better than Dragon Age 2 at retail in the US. It has been high on Steam's top seller list for a while too, you cannot conclude it is a flop at this stage.

nutcrackr

They expected to sell 7 million copies... They expected to score 94 in metacritic. I believe a lot of things went wrong.

The community is not very active it seens. Giving a quick look in Amazon, it's not top 10 anywhere. It is not on steam's top 20 played games. Their forums are just a trolling ground. Sales generally stop at 8 weeks from launch in consoles. At the end it should sell about maybe 2 million. In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.

Masculus

I for one regret purchasing it on launch day.....

Mp is still one big Cheatie McHackfest, SP still has a large amount of what looks like placeholder textures, the game is still bug ridden, dx11 is nowhere to be seen and it could release next christmas for all we know, dual gpu setups still make the game unplayable and after a month there still is'nt word on an SLI profile update, Crytek has next to no contact with it's increasingly trollish community.

What the hell did Nvidia pay Crytek for? When can I exect them to unbreak my game so I can actually play it?

The graphics alone are enough to boggle my mind and they're just the tip of the iceberg. Crytek needs to up their game before word of mouth kills it off.

I for one regret purchasing it on launch day.....

Mp is still one big Cheatie McHackfest, SP still has a large amount of what looks like placeholder textures, the game is still bug ridden, dx11 is nowhere to be seen and it could release next christmas for all we know, dual gpu setups still make the game unplayable and after a month there still is'nt word on an SLI profile update, Crytek has next to no contact with it's increasingly trollish community.

What the hell did Nvidia pay Crytek for? When can I exect them to unbreak my game so I can actually play it?

The graphics alone are enough to boggle my mind and they're just the tip of the iceberg. Crytek needs to up their game before word of mouth kills it off.

Filthybastrd

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

I for one regret purchasing it on launch day.....

Mp is still one big Cheatie McHackfest, SP still has a large amount of what looks like placeholder textures, the game is still bug ridden, dx11 is nowhere to be seen and it could release next christmas for all we know, dual gpu setups still make the game unplayable and after a month there still is'nt word on an SLI profile update, Crytek has next to no contact with it's increasingly trollish community.

What the hell did Nvidia pay Crytek for? When can I exect them to unbreak my game so I can actually play it?

The graphics alone are enough to boggle my mind and they're just the tip of the iceberg. Crytek needs to up their game before word of mouth kills it off.

i5750at4Ghz

Bandaids that don't work properly if you go much beyond fixing the silly FoV.

And what's with the MP? It's not exacty buzzing with life and am I supposed to die from as little as two shots in the ass (literally)?

Some info first

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8632-crysis-budget-unveiled/

The original Crysis costed€15m ($22m) to make

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/developer-spotlight/crytek-crysis-2-much-better-than-crysis/

You have to understand that thebudget for Crysis was much lower than for Crysis 2. We could spend much more on Crysis 2 because we expected to sell more through multiplatform development.

For laughs

http://www.pcplay.hr/modules.php?r=23&id=15

Similar games on consoles sell factors of 4-5 more

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Crysis-Crysis-Trilogy-Cevat-Yerli-FPS-Black-Ops,12080.html

"But if it sells anywhere near what [Call of Duty] Black Ops has, there may be more from Crysis,"

http://n4g.com/news/729346/crysis-2-crytek-wants-to-sell-7-million-copies

-> The game was constantly marketed on TV,Viral marketing and every single gaming site.

March NPD Numbers

1. Pokemon White Version (DS) - Nintendo
2. Pokemon Black Version (DS) - Nintendo
3. Homefront (360, PS3, PC) - THQ
4. Dragon Age II (360, PS3, PC) - Electronic Arts
5. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, DS, Wii, PC) - Activision
6. Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars (Wii, 360, DS, PS3, 3DS, PSP, PC) - LucasArts
7. Crysis 2 (360, PS3, PC) - Electronic Arts
8. NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PS2, Wii, PSP, PC) - Take-Two Interactive
9. MLB 11: The Show (PS3, PSP, PS2) - Sony
10. Fight Night Champion (360, PS3) - Electronic Arts

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

They expected to sell 7 million copies... They expected to score 94 in metacritic. I believe a lot of things went wrong.

The community is not very active it seens. Giving a quick look in Amazon, it's not top 10 anywhere. It is not on steam's top 20 played games. Their forums are just a trolling ground. Sales generally stop at 8 weeks from launch in consoles. At the end it should sell about maybe 2 million. In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.

GeneralShowzer

Conclusion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48&feature=related

General.... you are awesome:lol::D

Meh, they abandoned their PC core for the consolites and got screwed for it. Can't say I feel sorry for them.

htekemerald

which is why CoD continues to sell on PC......

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Meh, they abandoned their PC core for the consolites and got screwed for it. Can't say I feel sorry for them.

WilliamRLBaker

The first Crysis sold 3mln copies.

I think that overall is a failure in sales, which doesn't surprise me due I known for long time ago that going multiplatform =/= getting better sales. It happened with F.E.A.R. 2, Metro 2033, and will happen again with games as Bulletstorm, Crysis 2, Brink, The Witcher and Rage: jumping from high quality standards in PC to average quality at multiplatform developing doesn't turn your franchise in a COD/Battlefeild/Halo/Gears seller.

Crysis 1 did a amazing job and ended collecting tons of awards back in 2007; I'm sure that Crysis 2 will barely scratch an award in 2011. And is not a bad game, but "not being a bad game" being the son of Crysis is such a failure.

Beaten by Homefront?

:lol:

Beaten by Homefront?

:lol:

shutdown_202

Their next game should just be a game were you have to stare at textures throughout the entire game. That will make people happy because it sems like that all people did.

In order to discuss whether a game was a financial failure or not it, should be given at least a complete fiscal year, Crysis 2 was released less than a month ago, the advertisement campaign isn't over and this game was released on multiple systems which is a deciding factor this time around, Crysis 1/Warhead were successful only on PC. Crytek's projections are not the same.

Without any hesitation whatsoever, Crysis 2 is one of the biggest megaflops (financially) of our generation. The fact that Crytek hoped that it would sell as well as the BLACK OPS, and get a MC score of 94, says it all. Crysis 2 is a gigantic flop, and there is nothing Crytek can do about it. And since Treyarch and IW are the Gods of the FPS genre, I suggest Crytek go and try out a different genre, instead of just copying Call of Duty's features in their pathetic, low-quality games.

it will sell well

crysis also sold almost 80000 during 1st month

Just as predicted.

Consoles - Won't buy it unless it has the CoD name wrapped around it. They tried to get their name into an already crowded market and failed.

PC - Won't buy it for obvious reasons. When you set the bar at a certain point and then lower it to make profits you tend to piss some people off.

Just how reliable is vgchartz? Because i managed to dig up some sales figures for the games:

Crysis 2 Xbox360 - 630,000 copies

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/game/35001/crysis-2/

Crysis 2 PS3 - 410,000 copies

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/game/35002/crysis-2/

Crysis 2 PC - 150,000 copies

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/game/35003/crysis-2/

So thier is that. Also what percentage of the games revenue per copy goes straight to the developer and to the publisher? Want to figure out if it makes breakeven based on its budget, though it seems likely that they did.

So that brings the total number of units sold to approx 1,190,000. This would actually be a pretty decent number had it not been for the absurd "lets sell 7 million copies!" expectations which is pretty much going to be where Crytek is going to cry failure like it did for the PC version when it blamed its sales on piracy. I have a feeling they still might given the low sales on the PC. Wouldn't put it past them at all.

In order to discuss whether a game was a financial failure or not it, should be given at least a complete fiscal year, Crysis 2 was released less than a month ago, the advertisement campaign isn't over and this game was released on multiple systems which is a deciding factor this time around, Crysis 1/Warhead were successful only on PC. Crytek's projections are not the same.

AgentA-Mi6

Without any hesitation whatsoever, Crysis 2 is one of the biggest megaflops (financially) of our generation. The fact that Crytek hoped that it would sell as well as the BLACK OPS, and get a MC score of 94, says it all. Crysis 2 is a gigantic flop, and there is nothing Crytek can do about it. And since Treyarch and IW are the Gods of the FPS genre, I suggest Crytek go and try out a different genre, instead of just copying Call of Duty's features in their pathetic, low-quality games.

SHR3DD3D

I hope it was a financial flop, they deserve it.

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]between the Xbox 360 and PS3 sales of Crysis 2 combined they've already sold like 1 million so that should have already covered the development costs of $22 million and then someGeneralShowzer

I hope so. Show them for wanting the "quick fix" on consoles.foxhound_fox

Still too early to judge. I do think however that Crysis 2 is only another grass straw in an already crowded market. I honestly expect FPS sales to drop or change in the next coming year, the market should have a music game reaction soon a lá Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

Pretty interestin. Cant really say, but it all does look interesting.

Who will Crytek blame now?

Point is Crysis and Crysis Warhead sold over a longer period. Around ~4.5 million copies. That's supposed to be bad?

I'm sure this one was better off than the first just because it was cross platform.

I don't think it will flop (ie..not make money), but it's extremely unlikely it will be as profitable as the first one. Crysis 2 costed at least twice, if not three times as much. It's a console game so it needed to have huge marketing budget, while with Crysis 1 the marketing was petite and it was mostly paid by Nvidia. Add to this the fact that development budget was also a lot higher. And well..to make more money than Crysis 1 the sequel would propably need to sell over 6 mln copies. I just don't see it happening. It had weak start on consoles and there sales die out very fast. And it's not graphical benchmark or mod-friendly title, so I don't see how it has any chances of selling for as long as the first one did.

In most cases when FPS dev goes multiplat it brings money, but I guess there are exceptions to every rule. Deus Ex was funnily the same way. Combined sales od console and PC version of Invisible War also didn't match how much the first game sold on PC alone

Eh, the first one had a lot of hype because of the graphics. I think things died down a bit for Crysis 2 because gamers knew what to expect. Basically, pretty graphics but bad AI/story. It's the story part that prevents me from playing it. I can't stand shooters in general, and Crysis 1's story was so laughable I wouldn't give this one a chance. Unless reviews said otherwise, which they didn't.Lethalhazard

Eh, the first one had a lot of hype because of the graphics. I think things died down a bit for Crysis 2 because gamers knew what to expect. Basically, pretty graphics but bad AI/story. It's the story part that prevents me from playing it. I can't stand shooters in general, and Crysis 1's story was so laughable I wouldn't give this one a chance. Unless reviews said otherwise, which they didn't.Lethalhazard

What's so bad about the first one's story? There's no cheesy dialogue or plot holes. If anything it's simple which does'nt make it bad.

I see a lot of people trashing the story of Crysis 1 but never anyone providing even a shred of argument.

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Eh, the first one had a lot of hype because of the graphics. I think things died down a bit for Crysis 2 because gamers knew what to expect. Basically, pretty graphics but bad AI/story. It's the story part that prevents me from playing it. I can't stand shooters in general, and Crysis 1's story was so laughable I wouldn't give this one a chance. Unless reviews said otherwise, which they didn't.Filthybastrd

What's so bad about the first one's story? There's no cheesy dialogue or plot holes. If anything it's simple which does'nt make it bad.

I see a lot of people trashing the story of Crysis 1 but never anyone providing even a shred of argument.

If a game gets the biggest budget ever award, then it better be attractive to every player out there. And limiting this game to a FPS is just shooting yourself in the foot. Of course this is only my opinion and I may be wrong.

If a game gets the biggest budget ever award, then it better be attractive to every player out there. And limiting this game to a FPS is just shooting yourself in the foot. Of course this is only my opinion and I may be wrong.

LOXO7

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Eh, the first one had a lot of hype because of the graphics. I think things died down a bit for Crysis 2 because gamers knew what to expect. Basically, pretty graphics but bad AI/story. It's the story part that prevents me from playing it. I can't stand shooters in general, and Crysis 1's story was so laughable I wouldn't give this one a chance. Unless reviews said otherwise, which they didn't.AdrianWerner

Yeah it's actually pretty intriguing to say the least.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]...In the PC it's not a good MP game, does not have mods, it's not a benchmark title... it has little value. I don't think it will have strong legs like the first one.GeneralShowzer

Is that guy implying pc gamers have better standards. lol

If a game gets the biggest budget ever award, then it better be attractive to every player out there. And limiting this game to a FPS is just shooting yourself in the foot. Of course this is only my opinion and I may be wrong.

LOXO7

What do you mean by "limiting"?
Did you want it to be more like Banjo nuts and bolts?

Crysis 2 is currently #6 on the STEAM top sellers. 4 of the top sellers are major sales packages, the fifth game is Portal 2. That means it's outselling Shogun 2, Bullet storm. Rift, Home Front and Dragon Age 2. That's hardly the sign of a 'mega flop' by any standard? OnD2D it's currently #4, one that list, game 1 and 2 were recently put on sale. So overall, it's not quite topping the charts but it's one of the top selling games on the PC after having been on the market for about 3 weeks. Now I'd be very surprised if it was to reach 7 million sales and it's obviously not hitting 94% Meta Critic. To me it's looking like a solid but not revolutionary FPS with solid but not revolutionary sales. Not a resounding success but not a flop either.Mazoch

So it was only there second game in the series, there first on a console and they were hopingn to achieve COD like sales ?? Talk about putting your expectations too high :D

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]Crysis 2 is currently #6 on the STEAM top sellers. 4 of the top sellers are major sales packages, the fifth game is Portal 2. That means it's outselling Shogun 2, Bullet storm. Rift, Home Front and Dragon Age 2. That's hardly the sign of a 'mega flop' by any standard? OnD2D it's currently #4, one that list, game 1 and 2 were recently put on sale. So overall, it's not quite topping the charts but it's one of the top selling games on the PC after having been on the market for about 3 weeks. Now I'd be very surprised if it was to reach 7 million sales and it's obviously not hitting 94% Meta Critic. To me it's looking like a solid but not revolutionary FPS with solid but not revolutionary sales. Not a resounding success but not a flop either.Cranler

DD is 70% for publisher if it's on Steam or D2Drive, but if it's from EA themselves, it's probably 90% profit after you factor in some overhead costs. Still, considering the bulk of the sales have been on consoles so far, it'd seem they'd need to sell a lot more to break even.

Well General care to be quoted on this one in a year's time? I don't think those figures are accurate simply because Homefront wasn't even in the top 5 sellers when Crysis 2 released and topped all 3 charts in the US and now it's 3rd? Doesn't make sense reallyocstew