Is every 360/PS3 game possible on both 360 and PS3?

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#1 NYrockinlegend
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As we all may know, fanboys/fakeboys have been stating the countless "this can't be done on 360/PS3" statements over and over about their console exclusives. However, is this actually true? What do you think? Do you think the systems are very similar that anything that can be developed on one of them can also be developed for the other?

I think it depends on how the games are made. If they rely too much on one system's resources or format, then it may not be entirely possible on the other system. However, I don't have any proof of this, it's just a prediction.

So, is every game on either of these consoles possible on both of them?

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I would like to think so.
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#3 PlaystationGrad
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some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3
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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.
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#5 Chaos_HL21
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The PS3 and 360 are not that difference in terms of power. In some ways the PS3 is better in others the 360 is better. But when you get to it they are the same.

[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3IronBass
And I am sure you can prove that.

He is from the Internet he does not have to prove anything.

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#6 PlaystationGrad
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[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3IronBass
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13
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#7 _rpg_FAN
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All ps3 games can be made on x360 and vica versa

there is simply nothing that one console have and other dont that cant be "replaced" by some other component (example blueray = few dvd's)

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#8 swazidoughman
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I would imagine the PS3 to be better than the 360 in some operations and the 360 to be better than the PS3 in other operations due to their different hardware architectures.

I do not know if it would be enough of a difference to make some software simply impossible on the other system, but I imagine that said software would require tweaking to be as close to equal on both systems.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

and what exactly from those games cant be done on x360?
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#10 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, Mass Effect 2 (since we are including unreleased games). In other words: you didn't prove anything.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

*laughs* FFvs13 the game thats being made with the same damn engine FF13 is being made with and is comming to 360? lol Mgs4? what beyond uncompressed pcm 7.1 which is the only thing that keeps it from comming to 360 and thats only cause uncompressed pcm 7.1 takes up like 10 gigs on the bluray. KZ2 is not advanced in any way shape or form.
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#12 Steel-Panther
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Both MS and Sony would like us to believe that all of their exclusive games are only possible on their respective consoles, and a lot of fanboys buy into that.

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#13 _rpg_FAN
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Both MS and Sony would like us to believe that all of their exclusive games are only possible on their respective consoles, and a lot of fanboys buy into that.

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you just need a bit of simple logic and basic technology knowledge to "not buy into that"
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#14 Roushrsh
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I think there are PS3 games which can't be run on the 360 but not vice verca. Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3, yet there are a lot of PS3 developers saying their games can't be run on the 360
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#15 NYrockinlegend
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

If FF13 can play properly on 360, then I'm sure vs 13 could if it were ported. KZ2 would have to be done differently to fit on 360, but yes, it's possible. GeOW2 looks similar to it, so its possible. As for MGS4, that's the only PS3 game that leads me to believe it can ONLY be done on that console, and that's because of size limitations on the 360's hardware. Then again, if it can be ported, then this will be proven wrong. Another may be Resistance 2 because of how complex and complicated it is, but it can barely be done on even PS3 without severe technical problems.:lol:
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#16 NYrockinlegend
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]I think there are PS3 games which can't be run on the 360 but not vice verca. Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3, yet there are a lot of PS3 developers saying their games can't be run on the 360

Maybe not in the current format, but tweak it to fit the hardware and it may be able to be done. If however, and only IF, the developers tested to run the games on the opposite system and failed despite several attempts, then I would believe it.
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#17 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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...yet there are a lot of PS3 developers saying their games can't be run on the 360Roushrsh
I highly doubt the word of Sony 1st party devs is reliable information.
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3

Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.
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i dont know, im not a game developer.

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#20 winner-ps3
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"other" 360 games can be done on ps3 but not the other way around, some ps3 exclusives cant be done with such a high graphical quality, detail, tech level etc...killzone, uncharted2, gow3, gt5 and probably others, say whatever u want. Maybe 360 can "almost" make these games but not as good as ps3 uncharted set the first bar, then killzone2, uncharted 2, next gow3, then praobaly gt5 ps3 owns in raw power and graphix : P
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3mitu123
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

killzone2 says hi along with uncharted1+2 lol
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3mitu123
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

unreal tournament 3 is using same engine so i dont see how it cant be done
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some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
Aaahh.. no. Every game that has been made on the PS3 could be made on the XBox 360. Some may need an addition DVD or two, but otherwise, they can easily be done. Developers who claim it can't be done has never tried or has never developed for the other system. It goes both ways. All XBox 360 games could be done on the PS3. It might take 6-12 months longer, but it still could be done.
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#24 NYrockinlegend
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3

Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

Hey, that's right.;) Although I'm not too sure if that's true, it would demonstrate difficulties in porting the game to PS3, if that were to be a case in a GeOW port.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3winner-ps3
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

killzone2 says hi along with uncharted1+2 lol

and what exactly those games have that cant be done on x360?? please elaborate (i will answer for you - nothing) if guerilla had "order" to make it for x360 they would do it (mybe even faster than for ps3 which we waited for long time)
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
And I am sure you can prove that.

MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

it isn't that is "inpossible" is that some games are better on the other console like mgs4 that is better to fit in a blue-ray than in several dvds
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#27 PlaystationGrad
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[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3XanderZane
Aaahh.. no. Every game that has been made on the PS3 could be made on the XBox 360. Some may need an addition DVD or two, but otherwise, they can easily be done. Developers who claim it can't be done has never tried or has never developed for the other system. It goes both ways. All XBox 360 games could be done on the PS3. It might take 6-12 months longer, but it still could be done.

wouldnt u agree that the developers are in a better position to make that "claim"?
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#28 WilliamRLBaker
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Both MS and Sony would like us to believe that all of their exclusive games are only possible on their respective consoles, and a lot of fanboys buy into that.

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I think its more that fanboys want us to believe this and not microsoft and sony, you rarely hear about them saying this and that are only capable on their system they say exclusive this exclusive that but they never say capable only.
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#29 NYrockinlegend
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3winner-ps3
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

killzone2 says hi along with uncharted1+2 lol

I don't find Uncharted very different from the way Tomb Raider or Gears are set up, and I'm pretty sure a TRGeOW hybrid is possible on 360 since both of those games are on 360. ND may be on to something with Uncharted 2, but if I see another 360 game with superior graphics to Uncharted 2, this will have been proven wrong.
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As we all may know, fanboys/fakeboys have been stating the countless "this can't be done on 360/PS3" statements over and over about their console exclusives. However, is this actually true? What do you think? Do you think the systems are very similar that anything that can be developed on one of them can also be developed for the other?

I think it depends on how the games are made. If they rely too much on one system's resources or format, then it may not be entirely possible on the other system. However, I don't have any proof of this, it's just a prediction.

So, is every game on either of these consoles possible on both of them?

NYrockinlegend

There is no game on either console that couldn't be made, with all features intact, on the other console. Both consoles are absolute beasts, and there is no current game that taxes either console enough to make a full-fidelity port to the other console impossible. The real question is whether the developer has the inclination, skill and resources to make the game at full fidelity on both consoles, and the answer to that is tricky because the devil, as they say, is in the details.

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wouldnt u agree that the developers are in a better position to make that "claim"?PlaystationGrad
Not really if there's a big chance of they being extremely biased. Like, let's say, devs owned by the console makers.
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
Aaahh.. no. Every game that has been made on the PS3 could be made on the XBox 360. Some may need an addition DVD or two, but otherwise, they can easily be done. Developers who claim it can't be done has never tried or has never developed for the other system. It goes both ways. All XBox 360 games could be done on the PS3. It might take 6-12 months longer, but it still could be done.

wouldnt u agree that the developers are in a better position to make that "claim"?

if you think that developer OWNED by SONY will go and say "KZ2 is great but it can be done on x360" you are mistaken they are paid to lie and hype their product where are you living @ ? hobbiton?
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]I think there are PS3 games which can't be run on the 360 but not vice verca. Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3, yet there are a lot of PS3 developers saying their games can't be run on the 360

And do these PS3 devs have any experience with the 360?
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#34 UnnDunn
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If a development studio says "this game can't be done on 360/PS3" what they really mean is either "we don't know how to do it on that console the same way we did it on this console" or "we don't really care to put this game on that console." The first one is relatively easy to fix: they go off and figure out a different way to do it, or they hire someone who can do it. The second one is usually as a result of market, legal or business-interest factors and as such is really hard--if not impossible--to fix. Generally, studios usually imply the second meaning, because the first meaning would imply that they're incompetent.

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Yes. No matter what Sony's first party devs and cows here may say, all games can be done on both platforms. Sure there would be a few differences (for example the 360 can handle better textures but the PS3 has better processing power) but they would only be minor. So far in console graphics it goes Killzone 2 > Gears 2 = Resident Evil 5 (360 version is slightly better looking, but the difference is negligible, unless you actually own both copies and look for the differences) I think the PS3 has the best graphics in Killzone 2 due to the talent of the developers, the amount of time taken to develop the game and the funding it had.
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3mitu123
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

Its probably true, since 360 has all 512mb available for textures, ps3 rsx can tap into system ram but at 60% of the speed for its on ram, so its not very good for textures, and has any one ever noticed how awesome the textrues on ps3 can be?
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I think it is. You might make some small concessions one way or the other on either system, but they would be 99% the same, IMO.
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wii sports cant be done on any of the other consoles :|

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Yes. No matter what Sony's first party devs and cows here may say, all games can be done on both platforms. Sure there would be a few differences (for example the 360 can handle better textures but the PS3 has better processing power) but they would only be minor. So far in console graphics it goes Killzone 2 > Gears 2 = Resident Evil 5 (360 version is slightly better looking, but the difference is negligible, unless you actually own both copies and look for the differences) I think the PS3 has the best graphics in Killzone 2 due to the talent of the developers, the amount of time taken to develop the game and the funding it had.comeonthehoops
The differences are quite noticable, i got re5 for ps3 first then bought the collectors red 360, it runs smoother too for the most part, less jaggies, everything looks sharper, all the small differences really add up. OH and the ps3 version does something entirely annoying where it looks like some textures are sectioned which is my biggest gripe about the differences.
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#40 XanderZane
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad
Aaahh.. no. Every game that has been made on the PS3 could be made on the XBox 360. Some may need an addition DVD or two, but otherwise, they can easily be done. Developers who claim it can't be done has never tried or has never developed for the other system. It goes both ways. All XBox 360 games could be done on the PS3. It might take 6-12 months longer, but it still could be done.

wouldnt u agree that the developers are in a better position to make that "claim"?

Not if they haven't programmed on the other systems or have even attempted to make a similar type of game on the other systems. They really wouldn't know until they've attempted it. Yes, the architecture is different on both systems, 99% of these developers are using a PC environment to PC tools to start the creations of their games.
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wii sports cant be done on any of the other consoles :|

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Most Wii games probably can't be done on either PS3 or 360 because of the absence in motion control and the Wii is very diverse from either console, but this is a PS3/360 comparison(because they're so similar in hardware strength).
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#42 Legendaryscmt
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wii sports cant be done on any of the other consoles :|

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Too bad we're not talking about the Wii.

To me, the only biggest problem I see between games on the 360 and the PS3 is the size (EX: MGS4).

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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3_rpg_FAN
Gears of War, Epic said it didn't have enough RAM, LOL.

unreal tournament 3 is using same engine so i dont see how it cant be done

its the same engine but not the same game, gears of war might be using more textures thus the reason why ram is a problem on ps3
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#44 XanderZane
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wii sports cant be done on any of the other consoles :|

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LOL!! It can be done, but without the Wiimote controls. Everything would be controller with the analog sticks for the most part. That game could easily be made for the PS3 and XBox 360, it just wouldn't be as fun without the Wiimore.
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[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"][QUOTE="XanderZane"] Aaahh.. no. Every game that has been made on the PS3 could be made on the XBox 360. Some may need an addition DVD or two, but otherwise, they can easily be done. Developers who claim it can't be done has never tried or has never developed for the other system. It goes both ways. All XBox 360 games could be done on the PS3. It might take 6-12 months longer, but it still could be done. XanderZane
wouldnt u agree that the developers are in a better position to make that "claim"?

Not if they haven't programmed on the other systems or have even attempted to make a similar type of game on the other systems. They really wouldn't know until they've attempted it. Yes, the architecture is different on both systems, 99% of these developers are using a PC environment to PC tools to start the creations of their games.

PC is just a tool, there are still writing code for a specific console it will only run on that particular console... Its true that engines like UE3 can be run also on pc but thats different.
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#46 brennan7777
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Well the PS3 console looks nicer, and pushing the "on" button is more enjoyable. If that makes a difference....

What you should have done was created the poll and put the only 2 choices as "I dont Know" and "I think i know, but really dont" because i am almost certain that none of these people know the answer.

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There is no game on either console that couldn't be made, with all features intact, on the other console. Both consoles are absolute beasts, and there is no current game that taxes either console enough to make a full-fidelity port to the other console impossible. The real question is whether the developer has the inclination, skill and resources to make the game at full fidelity on both consoles, and the answer to that is tricky because the devil, as they say, is in the details.

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If a development studio says "this game can't be done on 360/PS3" what they really mean is either "we don't know how to do it on that console the same way we did it on this console" or "we don't really care to put this game on that console." The first one is relatively easy to fix: they go off and figure out a different way to do it, or they hire someone who can do it. The second one is usually as a result of market, legal or business-interest factors and as such is really hard--if not impossible--to fix. Generally, studios usually imply the second meaning, because the first meaning would imply that they're incompetent.

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As always, UnnDunn speaks the TRUTH! :D

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#48 rusty_armor1
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[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"][QUOTE="IronBass"] And I am sure you can prove that.IronBass
MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13

Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, Mass Effect 2 (since we are including unreleased games). In other words: you didn't prove anything.

Really?

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#49 PlaystationGrad
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"] MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13rusty_armor1

Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, Mass Effect 2 (since we are including unreleased games). In other words: you didn't prove anything.

Really?

lol ye i was wondering what that was about
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"] MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13rusty_armor1

Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, Mass Effect 2 (since we are including unreleased games). In other words: you didn't prove anything.

Really?

RE5 is one of the finest looking games ever made on a console. So yes, "really".