Is every 360/PS3 game possible on both 360 and PS3?

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, Mass Effect 2 (since we are including unreleased games). In other words: you didn't prove anything.IronBass

Really?

woops :/

woops :/sellcola5x

If a PC engine can be run on consoles then a PS3 engine can be run on the 360. Granted, something like Killzone 2 would need drastic changes in terms of coding. If you're going to multiplat a game it's best to do it while it's still in development. If you do it afterwards it gets a lot more complex.

I need to clarify: Killzone 2 could either be drastically changed in terms of coding (not worth the effort. it'd be like reprogramming the game.) or it could be downgraded like all console games are when compared to the PC multiplats.

Anyone that says Killzone 2 or Metal Gear Solid 4 can't run on the Xbox 360 are fanboys.

[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3IronBass

Since everything about them is exactly the same, yes.

I need to clarify: Killzone 2 could either be drastically changed in terms of coding (not worth the effort. it'd be like reprogramming the game.) or it could be downgraded like all console games are when compared to the PC multiplats.

Anyone that says Killzone 2 or Metal Gear Solid 4 can't run on the Xbox 360 are fanboys.

DeckardLee

Really? Man people now a days throw the "fanboy" term around so loosely...

It would have been more proper to say that they are wrong rather than label them fanboys like every fricken person on gamespot likes to do

. All I've seen is people quote me till now and not provide links to prove otherwise.Roushrsh

to a degree yes but with the same quality is up in the air. considering KZ2 is a big step ahead of anything on the 360 on a technical level (not just graphics) i'd say that right now is the only game that is possible to that high quality on the PS3.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26881661

I think this thread will give people proper insight. Please read through it rather than just ignore it and call the poster dumb because everything he says makes complete sense and shows WHY Sony decided to develop games on the cell. It's evident by everything that TC explains including how Intel is going to be using cell processors around 2015ish and how Sony's big AAAE exclusives are looking so much different from the BEST 3rd party games. You have to read through most of the thread because you likely won't understand it at first.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3PlaystationGrad

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26881661

I think this thread will give people proper insight. Please read through it rather than just ignore it and call the poster dumb because everything he says makes complete sense and shows WHY Sony decided to develop games on the cell. It's evident by everything that TC explains including how Intel is going to be using cell processors around 2015ish and how Sony's big AAAE exclusives are looking so much different from the BEST 3rd party games. You have to read through most of the thread because you likely won't understand it at first.

[QUOTE="mD-"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26881661

I think this thread will give people proper insight. Please read through it rather than just ignore it and call the poster dumb because everything he says makes complete sense and shows WHY Sony decided to develop games on the cell. It's evident by everything that TC explains including how Intel is going to be using cell processors around 2015ish and how Sony's big AAAE exclusives are looking so much different from the BEST 3rd party games. You have to read through most of the thread because you likely won't understand it at first.

IronBass

Yes, the evidence is all there. Do you think Sony would throw a bunch of money into technology and just make the developers have to figure evreything out? No, they had a plan of what to do with the cell. Sony wanted to jump ahead of the curve and use this specialized processing technology that won't be mainstream for years. The problem is that it doesn't favor 3rd party developers. Please actually read the thread so you understand what I'm saying.

Yes, the evidence is all there. Do you think Sony would throw a bunch of money into technology and just make the developers have to figure evreything out? No, they had a plan of what to do with the cell. Sony wanted to jump ahead of the curve and use this specialized processing technology that won't be mainstream for years. The problem is that it doesn't favor 3rd party developers. Please actually read the thread so you understand what I'm saying.mD-

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mD-"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26881661

I think this thread will give people proper insight. Please read through it rather than just ignore it and call the poster dumb because everything he says makes complete sense and shows WHY Sony decided to develop games on the cell. It's evident by everything that TC explains including how Intel is going to be using cell processors around 2015ish and how Sony's big AAAE exclusives are looking so much different from the BEST 3rd party games. You have to read through most of the thread because you likely won't understand it at first.

mD-

Yes, the evidence is all there. Do you think Sony would throw a bunch of money into technology and just make the developers have to figure evreything out? No, they had a plan of what to do with the cell. Sony wanted to jump ahead of the curve and use this specialized processing technology that won't be mainstream for years. The problem is that it doesn't favor 3rd party developers. Please actually read the thread so you understand what I'm saying.

The fact is, no one knows for sure except developers themselves, so no one can say neither argument.

Also, the fact remains, killzone 2 is the best looking ps3 exclusive game which speaks for itself.

Multiplatform games i think, have to look almost even on both consoles wheras exclusives can push the boundary further.

So far, ps3 exclusive games look better.

Now, can wii games be done on ps3 and 360? hmm

If it was, wii's existence would be pointless.

Why is it so hard to believe that Sony would to jump ahead and use technology that will be mainstream in the future?

Does a Sony developer have to come out and explain it? Even then you probably wouldn't believe them.

Let me ask again. Why do you think that Sony decided to use the cell processor rather than a general purpose one..?

What I'm saying is that some of the things you see on the big exclusive SONY games on the PS3 (Uncharted 2, MGS4) is only possible BECAUSE of what the cell processor allows and a general purpose process like the Xbox 360 has would have trouble doing the same kinds of things. I'm not talking about graphics/visuals either. Xbox 360 has the stronger graphical capabilities. The cell allows the developers toincorporate cinematic style gameplay (I'm not talking about cinemas as you watching a movie, but all the tidbits that make it feel like a cinematic experience you see in games like MGS4 or Uncharted 2 - the animations that take place on screen, a lot of set events being processed and executed on screen as your still playing, the sound effects, etc). You don't see games that kind of transition from gameplay to cinematics pulled off so well as games like these do throughout the entire game. That's because of what the Cell enables developers to do.

Also, I'm not saying that games like MGS4 or Killzone 2 are impossible to put on the 360 or anything like that. I'm saying that the 360's proceessor would limit developers in their ability to build games like Killzone 2 from the ground up because its processor isn't designed to produce the kinds of games thatincorporate cinematic style gameplay, bur rather games that are graphical beasts.

What I'm saying is that some of the things you see on the big exclusive SONY games on the PS3 (Uncharted 2, MGS4) is only possible BECAUSE of what the cell processor allows and a general purpose process like the Xbox 360 has would have trouble doing the same kinds of things. I'm not talking about graphics/visuals either. Xbox 360 has the stronger graphical capabilities. The cell allows the developers toincorporate cinematic style gameplay (I'm not talking about cinemas as you watching a movie, but all the tidbits that make it feel like a cinematic experience you see in games like MGS4 or Uncharted 2 - the animations that take place on screen, a lot of set events being processed and executed on screen as your still playing, the sound effects, etc). You don't see games that kind of transition from gameplay to cinematics pulled off so well as games like these do throughout the entire game. That's because of what the Cell enables developers to do.

mD-

Also, I'm not saying that games like MGS4 or Killzone 2 are impossible to put on the 360 or anything like that. I'm saying that the 360's proceessor would limit developers in their ability to build games like Killzone 2 from the ground up because its processor isn't designed to produce the kinds of games thatincorporate cinematic style gameplay, bur rather games that are graphical beasts.

mD-

How old are you??:|

whoever answered "of course" is terribly wrong. both systems shine in different areas, thus neither system would be fully capable of running eithers exclusives without some massive rework and change in focus.

PS3 does physics and lighting better and 360 has AA and better textures. from what we've seen so far anyways.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] Do you honestly believe all that?navyguy21

Yes, the evidence is all there. Do you think Sony would throw a bunch of money into technology and just make the developers have to figure evreything out? No, they had a plan of what to do with the cell. Sony wanted to jump ahead of the curve and use this specialized processing technology that won't be mainstream for years. The problem is that it doesn't favor 3rd party developers. Please actually read the thread so you understand what I'm saying.

Sony sold off all its shares in the cell development if im not mistaken. it's pretty much solely owned by toshiba now...

[QUOTE="mD-"]

What I'm saying is that some of the things you see on the big exclusive SONY games on the PS3 (Uncharted 2, MGS4) is only possible BECAUSE of what the cell processor allows and a general purpose process like the Xbox 360 has would have trouble doing the same kinds of things. I'm not talking about graphics/visuals either. Xbox 360 has the stronger graphical capabilities. The cell allows the developers toincorporate cinematic style gameplay (I'm not talking about cinemas as you watching a movie, but all the tidbits that make it feel like a cinematic experience you see in games like MGS4 or Uncharted 2 - the animations that take place on screen, a lot of set events being processed and executed on screen as your still playing, the sound effects, etc). You don't see games that kind of transition from gameplay to cinematics pulled off so well as games like these do throughout the entire game. That's because of what the Cell enables developers to do.

navyguy21

Also, I'm not saying that games like MGS4 or Killzone 2 are impossible to put on the 360 or anything like that. I'm saying that the 360's proceessor would limit developers in their ability to build games like Killzone 2 from the ground up because its processor isn't designed to produce the kinds of games thatincorporate cinematic style gameplay, bur rather games that are graphical beasts.

mD-

How old are you??:|

What does my age have to with the point I was trying to make (which is in fact a logical one)? Seriously, I'm starting wondering how old are you considering the fact that you keep following me around responding to me with little smartass remarks simply because you think I'm wrong about something. Honestly, if you think I'm completely wrong, why don't you explain to me why instead of coming off as arrogant like you're an expert in this.

I think both consoles are tecnically very similar

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Find me a 360 developer saying their game can't be run on PS3_rpg_FAN

You are right about Unreal Engine 3 but no PS3 game runs on UE3.5 yet. Anyways, im not saying that it cant run this engine.

x360 and ps3 graphics seems no different to me

Both are pretty much similar, I think. Obviously they outperform each other in different areas, but overall the difference is not going to be groundbreaking.

[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"]some ps3 games simply cannot be played on the 360, but all 360 games can be run on the ps3IronBass

[QUOTE="PlaystationGrad"][QUOTE="IronBass"] And I am sure you can prove that.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mD-"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26881661

I think this thread will give people proper insight. Please read through it rather than just ignore it and call the poster dumb because everything he says makes complete sense and shows WHY Sony decided to develop games on the cell. It's evident by everything that TC explains including how Intel is going to be using cell processors around 2015ish and how Sony's big AAAE exclusives are looking so much different from the BEST 3rd party games. You have to read through most of the thread because you likely won't understand it at first.

mD-

Yes, the evidence is all there. Do you think Sony would throw a bunch of money into technology and just make the developers have to figure evreything out? No, they had a plan of what to do with the cell. Sony wanted to jump ahead of the curve and use this specialized processing technology that won't be mainstream for years. The problem is that it doesn't favor 3rd party developers. Please actually read the thread so you understand what I'm saying.

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]. All I've seen is people quote me till now and not provide links to prove otherwise.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="rusty_armor1"] MGS4, KZ2, FFvs13sellcola5x

He mentioned RE5 becasue it's easily comparable to those listed PS3 games, and it's on the 360.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"]. All I've seen is people quote me till now and not provide links to prove otherwise.Roushrsh

Thanks for proving me right :S Devs have said PS3 games can't be done on 360. No devs have said that 360 games can be done on PS3. Case closed...for now :)Roushrsh

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"][QUOTE="IronBass"] That's because there's nothing to "prove otherwise". As I already said, the word of Sony's own devs has little value.bingbaocao

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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"] Thanks for proving me right :S Devs have said PS3 games can't be done on 360. No devs have said that 360 games can be done on PS3. Case closed...for now :)ToScA-

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Thanks for proving me right :S Devs have said PS3 games can't be done on 360. No devs have said that 360 games can be done on PS3. Case closed...for now :)IronBass

The correct answer is "I don't know". Because no-one here does.

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"][QUOTE="IronBass"] That's because there's nothing to "prove otherwise". As I already said, the word of Sony's own devs has little value.bingbaocao

I meant by not providing a link and only expressing your opinionRoushrsh

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Thanks for proving me right :S Devs have said PS3 games can't be done on 360. No devs have said that 360 games can be done on PS3. Case closed...for now :)Roushrsh

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"][QUOTE="IronBass"] I didn't "prove your right" or "wrong". I was not arguing about if Sony devs say it or not (we all know they did), I was arguing about how reliable their word is.RotaryRX7