Is Far Cry 2 a flop?

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#1 angryfodder
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I thought i'd post in here as the average SW user can quote sales figures in their sleep. I'm just wondering if this game has done really well or really badly - its the one game that seems to be on half price everywhere (uk) and its not been out that long. I am not sure if that is an indication of great sales or bad sales?

Looking on places like amazon its getting really mixed customer reviews.

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#2 CannedWorms
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Great sales, Ubisoft posted the sales figures, can't find the link though.
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#3 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Its the worst game I played all year so to me it is.
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#4 Legendaryscmt
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It isn't that it's a bad game, but considering what it's trying to do, it isn't really executing well.
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#5 CannedWorms
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And why does it matter to you?
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#6 markop2003
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Great sales but the bad reviews and bad user comments have now astarted to take effect.
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#7 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

I thought i'd post in here as the average SW user can quote sales figures in their sleep. I'm just wondering if this game has done really well or really badly - its the one game that seems to be on half price everywhere (uk) and its not been out that long. I am not sure if that is an indication of great sales or bad sales?

Looking on places like amazon its getting really mixed customer reviews.

i dont take alot of notice of customer reviews, some people seem to think rating a good game badly means they have higher standards than everyone else and are somehow better. Therefore I brought it from Amazon about half an hour ago! Express Delivery FTW.
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#8 Animal-Mother
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I thought i'd post in here as the average SW user can quote sales figures in their sleep. I'm just wondering if this game has done really well or really badly - its the one game that seems to be on half price everywhere (uk) and its not been out that long. I am not sure if that is an indication of great sales or bad sales?

Looking on places like amazon its getting really mixed customer reviews.

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I really really hate it, I bought it, returned it, bought it cheaper and returned it. I just can't stand the game it's filth
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#9 Verge_6
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It was a massive flop for me.
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#10 web966
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I think its a good game, nothing incredible but an enjoyable game.
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#11 Cedmln
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I honestly thinkthe game is unappretiated. I don't see anyone talking about here. I think its fantastic what they did with the game. And yeah i'm playing the PS3 version. YEah some complaints here and there but overall stuff I am happy with.
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#12 McdonaIdsGuy
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Single player can be good and meh,MP is go though..
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#13 Lto_thaG
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It's a flop for me.I didn't like the game one bit..ugh.
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#14 Catpee
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Its the worst game I played all year so to me it is.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Given your avatar, I find that very hard to believe.

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#15 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Its the worst game I played all year so to me it is.Catpee

Given your avatar, I find that very hard to believe.

You shouldn't base people's credibility of their avatars.
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#16 Catpee
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[QUOTE="Catpee"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Its the worst game I played all year so to me it is.Lto_thaG

Given your avatar, I find that very hard to believe.

You shouldn't base people's credibility of their avatars.

Considering the vast vast library of shovelware on the wii, there is no way an 8.5 is the worst game he has played this year. He is obviously just being a fanboy because it isn't on his system.

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#17 the-obiwan
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i got farcry 2 but i dont really play it lol.
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#18 Catpee
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Then again, he could be like most Wii players and never play games, so maybe he isn't a liar after all.
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#19 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Catpee"]

Given your avatar, I find that very hard to believe.

Catpee

You shouldn't base people's credibility of their avatars.

Considering the vast vast library of shovelware on the wii, there is no way an 8.5 is the worst game he has played this year. He is obviously just being a fanboy because it isn't on his system.

Well then Mr.Assume,do you even know he has any other consoles besides his Wii?And please don't start with the shovelware crap.The game was also bad for me...It sucked.Guess I'm a fanboy too for not agreeing with GS.
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#20 mentzer
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One of the the best games of 2008 IMO.

The open ended gameplay is second to none.

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#21 Lto_thaG
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Then again, he could be like most Wii players and never play games, so maybe he isn't a liar after all.Catpee
Or like Ps3 owners that only watch blurays...See I can do it too.
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#22 Jack_Bauer07
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I think it's a great game and gets way too much hate for such silly complaints. I love the semi-realistic feel to it and how easily your car breaks.
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#23 mentzer
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[QUOTE="Catpee"]Then again, he could be like most Wii players and never play games, so maybe he isn't a liar after all.Lto_thaG
Or like Ps3 owners that only watch blurays...See I can do it too.

Yeeeeeeeeah........That doesn't work anymore. Maybe last year it did.
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#24 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Catpee"]Then again, he could be like most Wii players and never play games, so maybe he isn't a liar after all.mentzer
Or like Ps3 owners that only watch blurays...See I can do it too.

Yeeeeeeeeah........That doesn't work anymore. Maybe last year it did.

It's still a silly remark just like yours.Just pointing that out.
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#25 BZSIN
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Catpee"]

Given your avatar, I find that very hard to believe.

Catpee

You shouldn't base people's credibility of their avatars.

Considering the vast vast library of shovelware on the wii, there is no way an 8.5 is the worst game he has played this year. He is obviously just being a fanboy because it isn't on his system.

You didn't notice the gamertag in his sig then?

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#26 mentzer
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[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Or like Ps3 owners that only watch blurays...See I can do it too.Lto_thaG
Yeeeeeeeeah........That doesn't work anymore. Maybe last year it did.

It's still a silly remark just like yours.Just pointing that out.

Yeeeeeeeah I didn't make a silly remark. But both ideas are old now and don't hold weight.
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#27 Catpee
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Well then Mr.Assume,do you even know he has any other consoles besides his Wii?And please don't start with the shovelware crap.The game was also bad for me...It sucked.Guess I'm a fanboy too for not agreeing with GS.Lto_thaG

Saying it sucked, and saying its the worst game you played the entire year are alot different. And what crap? Wii has tons of shovelware, its a fact. If its not first party, its almost assuredly not worth playing on the Wii.

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#28 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="mentzer"] Yeeeeeeeeah........That doesn't work anymore. Maybe last year it did.mentzer
It's still a silly remark just like yours.Just pointing that out.

Yeeeeeeeah I didn't make a silly remark. But both ideas are old now and don't hold weight.

The Wii comment aswell as my ps3 comment were both silly remarks and like you said they don't hold weight and are old..so there is no point in using them.
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#29 EuroMafia
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Game is crap.
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#30 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Catpee"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Well then Mr.Assume,do you even know he has any other consoles besides his Wii?And please don't start with the shovelware crap.The game was also bad for me...It sucked.Guess I'm a fanboy too for not agreeing with GS.

Saying it sucked, and saying its the worst game you played the entire year are alot different. And what crap? Wii has tons of shovelware, its a fact. If its not first party, its almost assuredly not worth playing on the Wii.

I suggest you have a look at some 3rd party games,especially this year..The 3rd party support this year is what makes it worth owning a Wii.A populair console is known to get a lot of shovelware,but that doesn't mean we have to buy them.
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#31 karasill
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Bought the PC version on Steam about 2 months ago. Great game IMO. I'm not sure if the console versions suffer from something, but it plays and looks great on the PC. I love the open ended gameplay, the day and night cycle, and the ability to play this game almost any way that you want, not to mention this is one of the few games (PC version) that has graphics that can hold a candle to Crysis.

I guess some people have problems with this game being so open ended that they hate not only how big the world can be, but also the fact that the game isnt holding ther hands telling them exactly what to do all the time. I guess those people prefer linear FPS's... Which is fine, because there is no way Far Cry 2 would be able to please everyone of different tastes.

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#32 Baranga
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One of the the best games of 2008 IMO.

The open ended gameplay is second to none.

mentzer

No, it's more like second to Stalker, Stalker: Clear Sky, Crysis and Warhead, Boiling Point, White Gold, the original Far Cry etc.

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#33 Catpee
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[QUOTE="Catpee"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Well then Mr.Assume,do you even know he has any other consoles besides his Wii?And please don't start with the shovelware crap.The game was also bad for me...It sucked.Guess I'm a fanboy too for not agreeing with GS.Lto_thaG

Saying it sucked, and saying its the worst game you played the entire year are alot different. And what crap? Wii has tons of shovelware, its a fact. If its not first party, its almost assuredly not worth playing on the Wii.

I suggest you have a look at some 3rd party games,especially this year..The 3rd party support this year is what makes it worth owning a Wii.A populair console is known to get a lot of shovelware,but that doesn't mean we have to buy them.

I suggest you try to explain how what comes out this coming year has any relevance to this thread or the post I quoted.

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#34 angryfodder
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And why does it matter to you?CannedWorms

I was walking about looking to see if anywhere had a copy of COD going cheap today, and I couldn't help but notice that every shop had far cry 2 on sale, all half price. It seems to be on sale on the websites as well

I've only played about two hours of the game, and soo far it seems really good - just wondered what was with the bargain basement pricing everywhere?

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#35 karasill
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[QUOTE="Baranga"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

One of the the best games of 2008 IMO.

The open ended gameplay is second to none.

No, it's more like second to Stalker, Stalker: Clear Sky, Crysis and Warhead, Boiling Point, White Gold, the original Far Cry etc.

Crysis and Far Cry are not open ended games. Sure they have big "levels" but they really are linear games. In Far Cry or Crysis, you cant revisit your old fire fights, or places that you have been. Far Cry 2 on the other hand lets you explore the whole world at any time and lets you revisit anywhere you've been. Far Cry 2 is more open ended then even STALKER, considering I dont have to go through loading screens in Far Cry 2 between sections.
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#36 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Catpee"]

Saying it sucked, and saying its the worst game you played the entire year are alot different. And what crap? Wii has tons of shovelware, its a fact. If its not first party, its almost assuredly not worth playing on the Wii.

Catpee

I suggest you have a look at some 3rd party games,especially this year..The 3rd party support this year is what makes it worth owning a Wii.A populair console is known to get a lot of shovelware,but that doesn't mean we have to buy them.

I suggest you try to explain how what comes out this coming year has any relevance to this thread or the post I quoted.

You said 'If its not first party, its almost assuredly not worth playing on the Wii. '..And I replied with 'The 3rd party support this year is what makes it worth owning a Wii'...I think it's relevant enough to your post.And you started with the shovelware crap..I just started replying.
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#37 mentzer
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[QUOTE="Baranga"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

One of the the best games of 2008 IMO.

The open ended gameplay is second to none.

karasill

No, it's more like second to Stalker, Stalker: Clear Sky, Crysis and Warhead, Boiling Point, White Gold, the original Far Cry etc.

Crysis and Far Cry are not open ended games. Sure they have big "levels" but they really are linear games. In Far Cry or Crysis, you cant revisit your old fire fights, or places that you have been. Far Cry 2 on the other hand lets you explore the whole world at any time and lets you revisit anywhere you've been. Far Cry 2 is more open ended then even STALKER, considering I dont have to go through loading screens in Far Cry 2 between sections.

What he said.

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#38 Baranga
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Far Cry 2 on the other hand lets you explore the whole world at any time and lets you revisit anywhere you've been. Far Cry 2 is more open ended then even STALKER, considering I dont have to go through loading screens in Far Cry 2 between sections.mentzer

Loading screens are still better than huge mountains that make you fell like in a corridor shooter, no? The swamp area of Clear Sky alone feels like half of FC2's map...

The best thing about FC2 is the setting. I don't like the gameplay, it's frustrating and tedious, it feels like a very dumbed down Stalker... but I still played it for about 30 hours just because Africa is awesome (and seeing Blood Diamond helped too).

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#39 karasill
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[QUOTE="Baranga"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

Far Cry 2 on the other hand lets you explore the whole world at any time and lets you revisit anywhere you've been. Far Cry 2 is more open ended then even STALKER, considering I dont have to go through loading screens in Far Cry 2 between sections.

Loading screens are still better than huge mountains that make you fell like in a corridor shooter, no? The swamp area of Clear Sky alone feels like half of FC2's map...

The best thing about FC2 is the setting. I don't like the gameplay, it's frustrating and tedious, it feels like a very dumbed down Stalker... but I still played it for about 30 hours just because Africa is awesome (and seeing Blood Diamond helped too).

I never felt like Far Cry 2 played like a corridor shooter. The world is big and their are places that you need to drve a jeep just to get a feel for how big it is (the desert area comes to mind) The gameplay in Far Cry 2, as in the shooting aspects play out great. I dont know whats not to like since it plays like most other shooters. Maybe you just dont like walking or driving from mission to mission?
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#40 glez13
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The real Farcry 2 is called Crysis.

End of story.

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#41 drinkerofjuice
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I seen my older brother playing Far Cry 2 and it didn't look very fun. I could see it being very tedious and repetitive because all I mostly saw was him driving, then do the objective. Rinse and repeat. I'm happy that I got Crysis Warhead instead.
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#42 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

Far Cry 2 on the other hand lets you explore the whole world at any time and lets you revisit anywhere you've been. Far Cry 2 is more open ended then even STALKER, considering I dont have to go through loading screens in Far Cry 2 between sections.karasill

Loading screens are still better than huge mountains that make you fell like in a corridor shooter, no? The swamp area of Clear Sky alone feels like half of FC2's map...

The best thing about FC2 is the setting. I don't like the gameplay, it's frustrating and tedious, it feels like a very dumbed down Stalker... but I still played it for about 30 hours just because Africa is awesome (and seeing Blood Diamond helped too).

I never felt like Far Cry 2 played like a corridor shooter. The world is big and their are places that you need to drve a jeep just to get a feel for how big it is (the desert area comes to mind) The gameplay in Far Cry 2, as in the shooting aspects play out great. I dont know whats not to like since it plays like most other shooters. Maybe you just dont like walking or driving from mission to mission?

Of course I hate walking:P

I like driving, unlike many others... but not when pissed off dudes follow me and somehow always reach my car!

Using the boat is a joke though.

You play FC2 on PC or on a console? I play it on PC, and I was stunned to see there's no lean option. I'm constantly annoyed by this. the weapons aren't that great on PC, they feel... floaty, weird. The AK of Stalker is miles ahead of FC2's version. The pistols are great though.

Even worse is that the secondary objectives are so damn repetitive, especially the trader missions.

Driving around saves the game for me, it's a bit hypnotic:lol: Unfortunately, the respawn rate is ridiculous, worse than that of the unpatched Stalker.

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#43 GeoffZak
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Not a flop in my books. The best part of Far Cry 2 is the map editor.
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#45 rp108
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I don't think it is a flop but not the greatest game.
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#46 IshmaelSonata
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animation was pure crap. Add on the awkard movement and unrealistic bullet damage and this game becomes so much less enjoyable than it could have been.

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#47 Paladin_King
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[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"]

animation was pure crap. Add on the awkard movement and unrealistic bullet damage and this game becomes so much less enjoyable than it could have been.

Easily one of the biggest disappointments of 2008. The only thing that fully delivered was the map editor. The fact that this got such high scores all around is just absolutely mind boggling to me considering how heavily flawed the game is. People who call GTA IV repetitive in its missions clearly have not played Far Cry 2. All the missions that are required of you, and hence most of the missions overall, follow an identical pattern: kill a whole bunch of guys to get to your objective. The objective is just a formality without any challenge: kill an unarmed man, press A to blow this up, pick up this item. NEver is the ultimate objective even integrated into the rest of the mission (take too long killing people and the target begins to try and escape, chase sequence, etc, try to slowly blow something up while under fire, etc). It's the same goddamned mission again and again and again. Kill a whole bunch of people, rinse and repeat. It's just boring. Let's not even start about how they give you this great sandbox...only to totally hamper it. Guard posts that respawn in a heartbeat (i once saw guards spawn out of a post that i just destroyed....seriously, the post was still on fire) and near constant jeep patrols, all of which shoot on sight and even give prolonged chase. oh, and the number of vehicles is just pitiful...there's what, 4-5 different cars in the whole game? Add to that an obscure and cumbersome map that does not allow you to zoom in or zoom out or ping locations (and is occasionally...less than totally accurate) and some of the most frequent screen-tearing i've ever seen in a game (console versions) and you get an 8.5 game? Right. Let's not even start on the failed opportunities regarding story and characters, both of which are near non-existent. And i didn't even mind the malaria that much....another year, another colossal let-down courtesy of Ubisoft Montreal.
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#48 IIJuggaNottII
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Far Cry 2 is a good game. Not a flop in my opinion. Its one of the better shooters out. Ubisoft is getting penalized for making a game with good A.I., No Hud etc.
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#49 mmirza23
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Its the worst game I played all year so to me it is.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
This, what a damn disappointment.
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#50 mmirza23
Member since 2004 • 3457 Posts
[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"]

animation was pure crap. Add on the awkard movement and unrealistic bullet damage and this game becomes so much less enjoyable than it could have been.

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Easily one of the biggest disappointments of 2008. The only thing that fully delivered was the map editor. The fact that this got such high scores all around is just absolutely mind boggling to me considering how heavily flawed the game is. People who call GTA IV repetitive in its missions clearly have not played Far Cry 2. All the missions that are required of you, and hence most of the missions overall, follow an identical pattern: kill a whole bunch of guys to get to your objective. The objective is just a formality without any challenge: kill an unarmed man, press A to blow this up, pick up this item. NEver is the ultimate objective even integrated into the rest of the mission (take too long killing people and the target begins to try and escape, chase sequence, etc, try to slowly blow something up while under fire, etc). It's the same goddamned mission again and again and again. Kill a whole bunch of people, rinse and repeat. It's just boring. Let's not even start about how they give you this great sandbox...only to totally hamper it. Guard posts that respawn in a heartbeat (i once saw guards spawn out of a post that i just destroyed....seriously, the post was still on fire) and near constant jeep patrols, all of which shoot on sight and even give prolonged chase. oh, and the number of vehicles is just pitiful...there's what, 4-5 different cars in the whole game? Add to that an obscure and cumbersome map that does not allow you to zoom in or zoom out or ping locations (and is occasionally...less than totally accurate) and some of the most frequent screen-tearing i've ever seen in a game (console versions) and you get an 8.5 game? Right. Let's not even start on the failed opportunities regarding story and characters, both of which are near non-existent. And i didn't even mind the malaria that much....another year, another colossal let-down courtesy of Ubisoft Montreal.

The only thing this game lived up to was the visuals, everything else was absolutely awful. I can't believe this game got reviews over a 9 even an 8. Assassins Creed was crucified for repetitive play(Not on GS) how come this wasn't?