Is Final Fantasy Tactics the best turn based strategy rpg?

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#1 Sonwhy
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I think its by far the best

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#2 Ziek-AAT
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Disgaea says hi.

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#3 -Oath
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As far as Ive played, yes.

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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Fire Emblem Path of Radiance for me.
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#6 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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and FF tactics don't even bother looking at it cause Disgaea is too low beneath FFT anyways the best one is valkyria chronicles
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#7 hakanakumono
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As far as strategy goes, Disgaea isn't really that strong. It's a lot of fun though and offers great gameplay.

Anyways, in response to your question, maybe. I think we might see a contender in a future Valkyria Chronicles game. The first one is a great strategy game.

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#8 Sonwhy
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Disgaea is a joke compared to FFT. It has some classes in it and the gameplay is there but there is no story. Not even close in this case.

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#9 WAIW
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Disgaeas, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor, Fire Emblems, Valkyria Chronicles, etc. are all better, I think.

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#10 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

Disgaea says hi.

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and FF tactics don't even bother looking at it cause Disgaea is too low beneath FFT anyways the best one is valkyria chronicles

Oh Valkyrie Chronicles the ps3 strategy game. I thought that game was good but I have not played it due to low funds. I will play it some point in the future so I can't really comment on the game other than what I've seen and read about it.

However, I would love another FFT game that was more like the original one with a different story but with more classes the only the thing is I'm not sure how many more classes they could come up with for the game but they could definitely make the plot better by letting you choose who you want to double cross and what not also giving you the option to change character clothing.

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#11 RyuRanVII
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Final Fantasy Tactics is a very good TBS series, but it's not better than:

  • Heroes of Might and Magic
  • Disciples
  • King's Bounty
  • Age of Wonders
  • X-COM
  • Jagged Alliance

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Fire Emblem Path of Radiance for me.IronBass

Game Cube games are too **** hard to get access to. I need a more powerful pc for that

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Fire Emblem Path of Radiance for me.IronBass
Nothing will ever beat Fire Emblem in this genre period, end of discussion. It's not even debatable so i'm declaring curtains on this thread. *folds arms*

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It's by far the best I've played. I own the first Disgaea and have played a number of other strategy RPGs (though I haven't played Valkyria Chronicles). FFT strikes the perfect balance in gameplay: it's easy to get into and there's plenty of depth there for those that want to put the time in. The story is interesting and kept me riveted throughout. There's plenty of side stuff to do, with the FF7 cameos and the Deep Dungeon among other things. It's fun to play through over and over as I have.
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#15 VendettaRed07
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Valkyria Chronicles is by far my favorite, if that counts.

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#16 Dead-Memories
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Tactics Ogre on the GBA for me.

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#17 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Tactics Ogre on the GBA for me.

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The Knight of Lodis? It's so awesome. I played a couple of missions of my friend's one, but I've been never been able to own a copy to finish it :cry:
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#18 naval
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Not even close : Jagged Alliance 2 followed by Temple of Elemental Evil for and King's Bounty (the legend and original) (Here considering games like XCom, HoMM, Disciples etc as TBS rather than TRPG)
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#19 Sonwhy
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Final Fantasy Tactics is a very good TBS series, but it's not better than:

  • Heroes of Might and Magic
  • Disciples
  • King's Bounty
  • Age of Wonders
  • X-COM
  • Jagged Alliance

RyuRanVII

The only thing that I like that is even close to those games you listed is something like a romance of the three kingdoms. I was more or less referring to games that a similar to FFT in how they play out. Those are somewhat similar to FFT but there is too much difference to really comapre them.

Also, a game that I like that maybe more similar to those is ogre battle

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#20 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Nothing will ever beat Fire Emblem in this genre period, end of discussion. It's not even debatable so i'm declaring curtains on this thread. *folds arms*Bigboi500
So true. It's a shame that Shadow Dragon was kinda mediocre :(
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#21 Tykain
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Valkyria Chronicles and Fire Emblem for me.
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#22 110million
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Fire Emblem Path of Radiance for me.Bigboi500

Nothing will ever beat Fire Emblem in this genre period, end of discussion. It's not even debatable so i'm declaring curtains on this thread. *folds arms*

But it is debateable, unless each one scored a perfect 10...
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#23 Phoenix534
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Second best, right behind Valkyria Chronicles.

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#24 Sonwhy
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Then again I did like tactics ogre quite a bit but the graphics are not as good as FFT

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#25 Yandere
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No, no, no, Tactical RPGs are completely awesome -- but FFT is just bad completely overrated in the genre, like anything involved with Final Fantasy.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"] Nothing will ever beat Fire Emblem in this genre period, end of discussion. It's not even debatable so i'm declaring curtains on this thread. *folds arms*IronBass
So true. It's a shame that Shadow Dragon was kinda mediocre :(

I agree. It's a very frustrating game when you are forced to sacrifice units constantly plus the story is pretty awful. I just haven't felt compelled to beat it as of yet.

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#27 WAIW
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"] Nothing will ever beat Fire Emblem in this genre period, end of discussion. It's not even debatable so i'm declaring curtains on this thread. *folds arms*Bigboi500

So true. It's a shame that Shadow Dragon was kinda mediocre :(

I agree. It's a very frustrating game when you are forced to sacrifice units constantly

...What?

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#28 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] So true. It's a shame that Shadow Dragon was kinda mediocre :(WAIW

I agree. It's a very frustrating game when you are forced to sacrifice units constantly

...What?

I guess that's why there are so many recruitable characters in that game, but I don't like killing off units even if I don't always use them all.

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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

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As far as strategy goes, Disgaea isn't really that strong. It's a lot of fun though and offers great gameplay.

Anyways, in response to your question, maybe. I think we might see a contender in a future Valkyria Chronicles game. The first one is a great strategy game.

I did like Disgaea, but VC is so much better and I can't wait for the sequel. Too bad it's not on a console.

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#30 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I agree. It's a very frustrating game when you are forced to sacrifice units constantly plus the story is pretty awful. I just haven't felt compelled to beat it as of yet.Bigboi500
Lol, I was gonna say it was way too easy :P But the story's awful, agreed :-/
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#31 hakanakumono
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Then again I did like tactics ogre quite a bit but the graphics are not as good as FFT

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I think FFT is sort of like Tactics Ogre ... perfected.

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#32 WAIW
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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"] I agree. It's a very frustrating game when you are forced to sacrifice units constantly Bigboi500

...What?

I guess that's why there are so many recruitable characters in that game, but I don't like killing off units even if I don't always use them all.

I was questioning the 'forced to sacrifice units constantly.' What difficulty setting where you playing it on?
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#33 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

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As far as strategy goes, Disgaea isn't really that strong. It's a lot of fun though and offers great gameplay.

Anyways, in response to your question, maybe. I think we might see a contender in a future Valkyria Chronicles game. The first one is a great strategy game.

I did like Disgaea, but VC is so much better and I can't wait for the sequel. Too bad it's not on a console.

At least it's on PSP. The big screen + headphones really let me get immersed into FFT:WotL and Silent Hill Origins.

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#34 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"] ...What?

WAIW

I guess that's why there are so many recruitable characters in that game, but I don't like killing off units even if I don't always use them all.

I was questioning the 'forced to sacrifice units constantly.' What difficulty setting where you playing it on?

Normal I guess. What I meant was there are times in the game were it is required that you sacrifice a unit, but not on every map. I don't like that.

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[QUOTE="WAIW"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"] I guess that's why there are so many recruitable characters in that game, but I don't like killing off units even if I don't always use them all.

Bigboi500

I was questioning the 'forced to sacrifice units constantly.' What difficulty setting where you playing it on?

Normal I guess. What I meant was there are times in the game were it is required that you sacrifice a unit, but not on every map. I don't like that.

Why is it necessary? That just sounds like bad game design.

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#36 WAIW
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[QUOTE="WAIW"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"] I guess that's why there are so many recruitable characters in that game, but I don't like killing off units even if I don't always use them all.

Bigboi500

I was questioning the 'forced to sacrifice units constantly.' What difficulty setting where you playing it on?

Normal I guess. What I meant was there are times in the game were it is required that you sacrifice a unit, but not on every map. I don't like that.

Fair enough. I was just thinking that there are only a couple places in the entire game where you're forced to sacrifice a unit, so 'constantly' is a bit of a strong word for that.
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#37 jonnyt61
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One of the best, I'd say. It's up there with Fire Emblem and the like, at least. I think a lot of FFT charm comes from the design and the fact it plays off peoples familiarity with some of the older final fantasy games. That, combined with it's depth, and interesting job system, makes it a compelling title. I love Ogre Battle on the Snes though :P
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#38 TalesofRaGnArOk
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Compared to Fire Emblem and Disgaea, FFT is like the king of the cosmos of srpgs

Its so awesome that you can't really describe it/him/her

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#39 Bigboi500
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Why is it necessary? That just sounds like bad game design.

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I agree. It's a remake of the first FE from the NES. I think they did that to show players not to worry about killing off a few members since there are too many to fully develop and use.

In some cases you have to create a diversion and draw units away from important units so they can escape.

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No, no, no, Tactical RPGs are completely awesome -- but FFT is just bad completely overrated in the genre, like anything involved with Final Fantasy.

Yandere

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?

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#41 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Why is it necessary? That just sounds like bad game design.

Bigboi500

I agree. It's a remake of the first FE from the NES. I think they did that to show players not to worry about killing off a few members since there are too many to fully develop and use.

In some cases you have to create a diversion and draw units away from important units so they can escape.

Hmm interesting. In Fire Emblem one of those series that has a ton of titles in Japan but not many in the US?

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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

No, no, no, Tactical RPGs are completely awesome -- but FFT is just bad completely overrated in the genre, like anything involved with Final Fantasy.

hakanakumono

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

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#43 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"] I was questioning the 'forced to sacrifice units constantly.' What difficulty setting where you playing it on? WAIW

Normal I guess. What I meant was there are times in the game were it is required that you sacrifice a unit, but not on every map. I don't like that.

Fair enough. I was just thinking that there are only a couple places in the entire game where you're forced to sacrifice a unit, so 'constantly' is a bit of a strong word for that.

Yep I misspoke on that.

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#44 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Why is it necessary? That just sounds like bad game design.

hakanakumono

I agree. It's a remake of the first FE from the NES. I think they did that to show players not to worry about killing off a few members since there are too many to fully develop and use.

In some cases you have to create a diversion and draw units away from important units so they can escape.

Hmm interesting. In Fire Emblem one of those series that has a ton of titles in Japan but not many in the US?

Yeah I think FE 2 through 6 never made it here for what ever reason.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

No, no, no, Tactical RPGs are completely awesome -- but FFT is just bad completely overrated in the genre, like anything involved with Final Fantasy.

Yandere

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

FF rehash? Have you even played it?

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

No, no, no, Tactical RPGs are completely awesome -- but FFT is just bad completely overrated in the genre, like anything involved with Final Fantasy.

Yandere

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

Yeah, high production values, expansive quality content, and a commitment to excellence sucks! Games that strive to and achieve far less are so much better.

Lol, "rehash." Since VI, every Final Fantasy has been different from the last.

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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?

WasntAvailable

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

FF rehash? Have you even played it?

It's funny when people who know nothing about FF try to insult it. It usually results in comments like this and calling "futuristic" locations like in XIII "mediocre" when 9/10 RPGs use stock medieval fantasy locations that lack an ounce of the creativity that is put into Final Fantasy games.

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#48 WINDWAKER1
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Does Kotor count?

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Sadly I never had played it, but I really love Fire Emblem: The Scared Stones and Jeanne D'Arc.

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#50 roddollente
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two words: Tactics Ogre.