Is Final Fantasy Tactics the best turn based strategy rpg?

Yes, I think so at least. I also find to be the best FF title.

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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

hakanakumono

FF rehash? Have you even played it?

It's funny when people who know nothing about FF try to insult it. It usually results in comments like this and calling "futuristic" locations like in XIII "mediocre" when 9/10 RPGs use stock medieval fantasy locations that lack an ounce of the creativity that is put into Final Fantasy games.

FF is a great series, but even at that Final Fantasy Tactics is my faviourite, and it's essentially a spin off. It has everything really. In my opinion the most mature and well told story of all the Final Fantasy's I've played, the most in depth gameplay, excellent presentation etc. I could go on. It's just a fantastic RPG. To call it a rehash shows a complete misunderstanding of what the game is capable of. It's not even similar to other Final Fantasys past the standard names, items, effects, etc. shared between them.

Having said that I think some of the older FF games are really quite overrated. I wasn't that struck on 4. The plot was very cliched to say the least, and the gameplay was a pretty basic affair, I liked the characters though. The problem with alot of earlier FF games is they pretty much just use same medieval setting for every game. The newer games tried alot harder in that respect, and I enjoyed them alot more.

its one of the best easily. its one of my top 5 games period. i,d kill to see a real sequel, the DS versions were over simplified. but fun i gotta say, just not nearly as deep.

Is IS the best SRPG that is a JRPG but it doesn't surpass Heroes of Might and Magic by any means.

Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?hakanakumono

Sadly I never had played it, but I really love Fire Emblem: The Scared Stones and Jeanne D'Arc.

Wanderer5

Jeanna D'Arc is a SRPG that doesn't get enough attention. It's not nearly as complex as the others, but it's a great story. Almost like a great stepping stone into the more complex games. It was for me at least.

Normally i'd say Fire Emblem is, but I'm completely addicted to Disgaea 3 right now. so i'm kinda split. either way though, it's not FFT

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Sadly I never had played it, but I really love Fire Emblem: The Scared Stones and Jeanne D'Arc.

jimkabrhel

Jeanna D'Arc is a SRPG that doesn't get enough attention. It's not nearly as complex as the others, but it's a great story. Almost like a great stepping stone into the more complex games. It was for me at least.

Yeah it did have a great story. And despite not being as complex as other SRPG the game was fun, challenging, and pretty balance. It is a underrated gem on the PSP IMO.

Why doesnt anyone mention dragonquest VIII - Journey of the cursed king. that games amazing and classic. dunno if its the best but its up there.. btw its on ps2 for those who dont know..fifamessi

Why doesnt anyone mention dragonquest VIII - Journey of the cursed king. that games amazing and classic. dunno if its the best but its up there.. btw its on ps2 for those who dont know..fifamessi

Not an SRPG........ and the game wasn't really good either.

Personal favourite is Valkyria Chronicles.

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Oh Jagged Alliance is damn awsome (the second)

I'm not sure about FFT, but I think Silent Storm easily has the best gameplay of the genre, so that gets my vote.

I'm not sure about FFT, but I think Silent Storm easily has the best gameplay of the genre, so that gets my vote.

Planeforger

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I'm not sure about FFT, but I think Silent Storm easily has the best gameplay of the genre, so that gets my vote.

skrat_01

Hm yeah, good point.
I mainly went with Silent Storm because of the destruction physics on everything, but any of X-Com/Jagged Alliance/Silent Storm would be a great choice.

I'm going to go with... no. I don't get the FFT love. Sure, its good, but I don't think its the best SRPG out there. One of favourite is Front Mission 3. I haven't played enough of them to know which is the "best."

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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

FF rehash? Have you even played it?

WasntAvailable

It's funny when people who know nothing about FF try to insult it. It usually results in comments like this and calling "futuristic" locations like in XIII "mediocre" when 9/10 RPGs use stock medieval fantasy locations that lack an ounce of the creativity that is put into Final Fantasy games.

FF is a great series, but even at that Final Fantasy Tactics is my faviourite, and it's essentially a spin off. It has everything really. In my opinion the most mature and well told story of all the Final Fantasy's I've played, the most in depth gameplay, excellent presentation etc. I could go on. It's just a fantastic RPG. To call it a rehash shows a complete misunderstanding of what the game is capable of. It's not even similar to other Final Fantasys past the standard names, items, effects, etc. shared between them.

Having said that I think some of the older FF games are really quite overrated. I wasn't that struck on 4. The plot was very cliched to say the least, and the gameplay was a pretty basic affair, I liked the characters though. The problem with alot of earlier FF games is they pretty much just use same medieval setting for every game. The newer games tried alot harder in that respect, and I enjoyed them alot more.

I feel the same way about FFIV and the earlier games It is very overrated, as well as FFVI (although it's a great game ...). The modern Final Fantasies are really creative.

I love X-Com and Front Mission 3 more than FFT.

While I enjoyed FFT and Fire Emblem (I wasn't a huge fan of it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay in FE), for me it has to be Disgaea. The freedom it allows, the hilarious story, (who didn't laugh when you first heard Flonne say "Nin nin nin"), and the fact it doesn't take itself seriously wins it for me. Final Fantasys storys are so overblown, and serious, it didn't grip me as much as Disgaea. Who can forget the Horse Wiener joke, or Thursday saying "Jeez Louise", or the damn Prism Rangers :lol:

While I enjoyed FFT and Fire Emblem (I wasn't a huge fan of it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay in FE), for me it has to be Disgaea. The freedom it allows, the hilarious story, (who didn't laugh when you first heard Flonne say "Nin nin nin"), and the fact it doesn't take itself seriously wins it for me. Final Fantasys storys are so overblown, and serious, it didn't grip me as much as Disgaea. Who can forget the Horse Wiener joke, or Thursday saying "Jeez Louise", or the damn Prism Rangers :lol:

Dataleak

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While I enjoyed FFT and Fire Emblem (I wasn't a huge fan of it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay in FE), for me it has to be Disgaea. The freedom it allows, the hilarious story, (who didn't laugh when you first heard Flonne say "Nin nin nin"), and the fact it doesn't take itself seriously wins it for me. Final Fantasys storys are so overblown, and serious, it didn't grip me as much as Disgaea. Who can forget the Horse Wiener joke, or Thursday saying "Jeez Louise", or the damn Prism Rangers :lol:

GSTip

So you don't laugh at wiener jokes? Wow, remind me NOT to ever hang out with you. :roll: It was crude, but it was fresh, and charming. Something I never expected from a game that tackles such deep underlying issues such as good vs evil. If you think that ruins a genre, yet a game that trudges along with it's same old cliche'd tedious storyline (FFT), then fair enough.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Because text selection on top of poorly drawn cartoon females is better than Final Fantasy, right?IronBass

Yes, I'd even say Generic Shooter #504 is better then another FF rehash.

Yandere

How can FFT be a rehash when it's completely unlike any other game in the series?

I find a rehash comment especially ironic coming from someone who plays eroges :roll:

Really? No one has mentioned Civ IV yet? It's pure amazing.

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While I enjoyed FFT and Fire Emblem (I wasn't a huge fan of it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay in FE), for me it has to be Disgaea. The freedom it allows, the hilarious story, (who didn't laugh when you first heard Flonne say "Nin nin nin"), and the fact it doesn't take itself seriously wins it for me. Final Fantasys storys are so overblown, and serious, it didn't grip me as much as Disgaea. Who can forget the Horse Wiener joke, or Thursday saying "Jeez Louise", or the damn Prism Rangers :lol:

Dataleak

So you don't laugh at wiener jokes? Wow, remind me NOT to ever hang out with you. :roll: It was crude, but it was fresh, and charming. Something I never expected from a game that tackles such deep underlying issues such as good vs evil. If you think that ruins a genre, yet a game that trudges along with it's same old cliche'd tedious storyline (FFT), then fair enough.

Really? No one has mentioned Civ IV yet? It's pure amazing.

sam_nintendo

Not an SRPG

Fire Emblem for me. Fire Emblem 4, the one with Sigrun where the maps are huge and you have castles, was the best one by far. Path of Radiance and the ones released in the United States are good and all, but they don't match up to 4.

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[QUOTE="GSTip"] Those kinds of things don't just ruin the game, but they also ruin the whole genre. Not to mention... No - none of that stuff is funny - ever. I looked at Disgaea for the DS and I didn't laugh once. It was for kids and even I know, if you wanna make kids laugh, you do it by being vulgar.GSTip

So you don't laugh at wiener jokes? Wow, remind me NOT to ever hang out with you. :roll: It was crude, but it was fresh, and charming. Something I never expected from a game that tackles such deep underlying issues such as good vs evil. If you think that ruins a genre, yet a game that trudges along with it's same old cliche'd tedious storyline (FFT), then fair enough.

Have you even completed it? The whole story is based on how demons are viewed as evil, and angels are viewed as good. It's a nice twist on the old stale formula of demons threatening to destroy the earth and some pretty faced boy must save it ect ect.

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Really? No one has mentioned Civ IV yet? It's pure amazing.

Juken7

Not an SRPG

[QUOTE="GSTip"][QUOTE="Dataleak"]

So you don't laugh at wiener jokes? Wow, remind me NOT to ever hang out with you. :roll: It was crude, but it was fresh, and charming. Something I never expected from a game that tackles such deep underlying issues such as good vs evil. If you think that ruins a genre, yet a game that trudges along with it's same old cliche'd tedious storyline (FFT), then fair enough.

Dataleak

Have you even completed it? The whole story is based on how demons are viewed as evil, and angels are viewed as good. It's a nice twist on the old stale formula of demons threatening to destroy the earth and some pretty faced boy must save it ect ect.

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[QUOTE="GSTip"] I don't see it. There is no humor there, it's cheap and a lot of people sit there romancing gimmicks. There is no good or evil in Disgaea, just a bunch of pre-pubescent kids using sqwaky voices. That's not evil, that's annoying and fake.GSTip

Have you even completed it? The whole story is based on how demons are viewed as evil, and angels are viewed as good. It's a nice twist on the old stale formula of demons threatening to destroy the earth and some pretty faced boy must save it ect ect.

I was 21 when I played it and the dialog voice overs were hilariously bad, I loved it. It's the only japanese game / anime that I actually prefered the English VOs to. Plus I found, and still find Etna pretty sexy. :lol: Also, you know the DS version is terrible right? But it's only my opinion, and you have yours, thats cool. ;)

Wait wait... did you call Disgaeas music stupid? That's unforgivable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCAdtd3Eknc Unrivaled!! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqYlkdFmC8&NR=1 Heres some music when it enters serious mode. You may dislike Disgaea but never ever say it's music is stupid. /rages :P

I posted in this topic back in October 2009, :lol:. I loved Tactics, but you shouldn't bump old topics, even if you want to create one yourself.

I posted in this topic back in October 2009, :lol:. I loved Tactics, but you shouldn't bump old topics, even if you want to create one yourself.

WasntAvailable

Disgaea says hi.

Ziek-AAT

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Disgaea says hi.

xsubtownerx

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Disgaea says hi.

GSTip