Is Half Life 2 the greatest first person shooter of al time?

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#51 skrat_01
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No. There is no such thing. However HL2 is a classic and still a great game in its own right, no doubt about that.
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#52 Iantheone
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Many people will say no and with good reason. Imo it is the best FPS (maybe even game altogether) for me.
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#53 dragonfly110
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call me what you will, but HL2 while being great gets knocked back by Halo CE and Borderlands for me. But it is definetly my third favorite FPS.

Storywise though it is definetly my favorite, no questions.

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#54 HoolaHoopMan
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I believe it to the be the SECOND best FPS of all time, with HL ahead of it.
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#55 FoShizzle17
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I totally agree with the TC. Over 6 years after its launch half life 2 is still a superb, one-of-a-kind game. It was certainly ahead of its time. Definitely could be called one of the best singleplayer FPS's of all time.

Crysis was another game that had amazing singleplayer.

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#56 Magik85
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HL>HL2
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#57 timmy00
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Half Life 2 is a great FPS but I wouldn't call it the greatest.

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#59 Master_ShakeXXX
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Nope, that honor would go to Metroid Prime...

inb4 "but MP is not a FPS!"

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#60 jettpack
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Like HL2 even comes close to the perfection that is Call of Duty: Black Ops.:lol:

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the fact that u even mentioned black ops makes your opinion invalid.

to answer the question, yes it is on many levels, in other areas no. but overall, i'd say absolutely.

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#61 jettpack
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I totally agree with the TC. Over 6 years after its launch half life 2 is still a superb, one-of-a-kind game. It was certainly ahead of its time. Definitely could be called one of the best singleplayer FPS's of all time.

Crysis was another game that had amazing singleplayer.

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yeah, crysis was fantastic. but the story was really forgettable, along with the characters (okay i love prophet and psycho). so you have to dock it some points their.

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#62 jettpack
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You just mad cuz a Nintendo game is better than a top teir PC franchise. :P

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Meh,I guess some would say that Lego Duplo is better than Lego Technic,and I´m sure it is... ...for the target audience. :lol: :P

The only thing that did was make me nostalgic for Legos. :P

HL2 over Galaxy any day. altho galaxy is pretty effing amazing.

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#63 Barbariser
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Obviously not.

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#64 EddieTheHead84
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I think Deus Ex is the best.

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#65 foxhound_fox
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Aside from story-telling... it is pretty low on the list of all FPS's. Its shooting mechanics are lame, its pacing is all over the place, the story is very generic and derivative, and the level design (aside from Ravenholm) really doesn't change all that much (especially in terms of tone and atmosphere).

What makes it worth playing is the way it approaches story telling and messing around with the gravity gun... which honestly has better uses in Garry's Mod and Portal.

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For me Yes :D
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#67 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Meh,I guess some would say that Lego Duplo is better than Lego Technic,and I´m sure it is... ...for the target audience. :lol: :P jettpack

The only thing that did was make me nostalgic for Legos. :P

HL2 over Galaxy any day. altho galaxy is pretty effing amazing.

Galaxy kicks HL2 to the curb in so many ways it isn't even funny.

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#68 cain006
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I haven't played hl1 yet, and have only played hl2 and episode one so far. Half life 2 was great, episode one was pretty terrible when compared to it. So far my take on all the praise of hl2 is that it's undeserved. Yes, it's a great game, but not the best game ever.

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#69 Twin-Blade
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Not in my opinion. It's phsyics engine was decent though.

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just because its so sad that its funny, black ops' story is better than half-life 2's story. hl2 is generic aliens taking over the world with generic mute protagonist that has no personality and just reacts like a robot would to the world around him. the gunplay isn't that great and the levels are all boring. all it has is physics and storyTELLING. its long, but all that is rewarding is hearing the other characters. unfortunately you cn be very lonely in hl2 being by yourself for many long sequences. black ops at least attempts something new. Vietnam shooters, while not exactly new, aren't done so often that they are everywhere on the market. however, this is not a vietnam war game. it has a few levels like that, but the focus is on other things happening. for a call of duty game, it is very unusual with levels revolving around breaking out of a prison and escaping a P.O.W. compound. there is much more focus on the stpry this time around and a few twists such as [spoiler] Nikolai from WaW meeting his gruesome end via Nova 6 to Reznov not actually being with you for most of the campaign as he was just a vision in your head [/spoiler] is it as good as it could be? no. but it is pretty entertaining. gameplay is a good as always (this is SP, there is no perks or killstreaks) and a good variety of missions from some interesting vechicle segments, to stealth, to standard war enviroments. Mason is actually believable as a human being and you kind of feel sorry for him after all that he has been through. Reznov is as awesome as always, and even woods is pretty good. (remember he won best character at the vgas for a reason) oh yeah. hudson is pretty sweet too. again not mentioning mp, because while good, hl doesn't really have much of one. there. believe my opinion or not, but the fact that i can even make an argument here over which shooter is better is kind of sad.
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YES
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It is the best game I have played, to date.

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#73 SovietsUnited
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I found it disappointing, compared to the FPS greatness the original Half Life is. So, no, far away from the title of the best FPS game.

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#74 CrustyBritches
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No One Lives Forever makes Half-Life 2 seem pointless.

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#75 Mozelleple112
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Yes. Half Life 2 is the greatest FPS of all time. The only games that come near it (within the FPS genre) are Half Life 1, Doom, Wolfenstein 3-D and maybe Goldeneye.

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#76 Doom_HellKnight
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Almost, but all-time greatest would be the original Half-Life... :P
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[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]just because its so sad that its funny, black ops' story is better than half-life 2's story. hl2 is generic aliens taking over the world with generic mute protagonist that has no personality and just reacts like a robot would to the world around him. the gunplay isn't that great and the levels are all boring. all it has is physics and storyTELLING. its long, but all that is rewarding is hearing the other characters. unfortunately you cn be very lonely in hl2 being by yourself for many long sequences. black ops at least attempts something new. Vietnam shooters, while not exactly new, aren't done so often that they are everywhere on the market. however, this is not a vietnam war game. it has a few levels like that, but the focus is on other things happening. for a call of duty game, it is very unusual with levels revolving around breaking out of a prison and escaping a P.O.W. compound. there is much more focus on the stpry this time around and a few twists such as [spoiler] Nikolai from WaW meeting his gruesome end via Nova 6 to Reznov not actually being with you for most of the campaign as he was just a vision in your head [/spoiler] is it as good as it could be? no. but it is pretty entertaining. gameplay is a good as always (this is SP, there is no perks or killstreaks) and a good variety of missions from some interesting vechicle segments, to stealth, to standard war enviroments. Mason is actually believable as a human being and you kind of feel sorry for him after all that he has been through. Reznov is as awesome as always, and even woods is pretty good. (remember he won best character at the vgas for a reason) oh yeah. hudson is pretty sweet too. again not mentioning mp, because while good, hl doesn't really have much of one. there. believe my opinion or not, but the fact that i can even make an argument here over which shooter is better is kind of sad.

The Half Life story isn't even complete. Since you're so knowledgeable on the subject, who is the G-man and what are his plans for Half Life 3/Ep. 3?
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#78 coreybg
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Nah, puzzle shooter? Yes.

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Is that what they call non-CoD shooters which involve some brain processing now? :lol:

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#79 ampiva
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oh god half life is easly one of the most over rated games in the history of gaming .

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This.
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#80 jg4xchamp
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Short Answer: Hell no Slightly Longer Answer: Hell no because mechanically it's weak(mediocre gunplay), the vehicle segments are god awful, the puzzles are actually worse, and majority of the stuff before Ravenholm is a massive chore. It also doesn't help that the Combine are hella stupid, and the overly scripted nature of the game really kills some of the replayability. It's a very good game, and probably the best of these "go forward, fight a bunch of dudes" FPSs(ala the Halos and Call of Dutys of the world), but at this point that's not even worth boasting about. Again personally it's a good game just not a great one.
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#82 biggest_loser
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If you include the two episodes then yes I think it is very very close to being the best.
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The game was fun but... no.

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#84 trasherhead
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As a shooter it isn't very good. But the game as a whole is great, with a rich world and story. Shooting mechanics and weapons are meeeh.
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#85 Fumpa
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No. HL2 is so dang boring. It ranks pretty low on my "greatest fps" list.
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#86 Ironbash
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Half-life 2 was what the Toy Story series was to the Animated film genre - emotionally powerful and fun at the same time.

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Yes I would have to say its the best. It just puts an entire package together. Great story, shooting, physics, adventure, atmosphere, puzzles, epic scenes, emotional and great characters. Valve is great at mind twisting you in there games and I love it.

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just because its so sad that its funny, black ops' story is better than half-life 2's story. hl2 is generic aliens taking over the world with generic mute protagonist that has no personality and just reacts like a robot would to the world around him. the gunplay isn't that great and the levels are all boring. all it has is physics and storyTELLING. its long, but all that is rewarding is hearing the other characters. unfortunately you cn be very lonely in hl2 being by yourself for many long sequences. black ops at least attempts something new. Vietnam shooters, while not exactly new, aren't done so often that they are everywhere on the market. however, this is not a vietnam war game. it has a few levels like that, but the focus is on other things happening. for a call of duty game, it is very unusual with levels revolving around breaking out of a prison and escaping a P.O.W. compound. there is much more focus on the stpry this time around and a few twists such as [spoiler] Nikolai from WaW meeting his gruesome end via Nova 6 to Reznov not actually being with you for most of the campaign as he was just a vision in your head [/spoiler] is it as good as it could be? no. but it is pretty entertaining. gameplay is a good as always (this is SP, there is no perks or killstreaks) and a good variety of missions from some interesting vechicle segments, to stealth, to standard war enviroments. Mason is actually believable as a human being and you kind of feel sorry for him after all that he has been through. Reznov is as awesome as always, and even woods is pretty good. (remember he won best character at the vgas for a reason) oh yeah. hudson is pretty sweet too. again not mentioning mp, because while good, hl doesn't really have much of one. there. believe my opinion or not, but the fact that i can even make an argument here over which shooter is better is kind of sad.antifanboyftw
Dude, you have no idea of the story behind HL series huh lol. And to put any cod game in the same breath of HL2 is just, well really kills any crediability you had if any on the forums lol. Story's behind cod games goes with the attention span that one needs to play its mP.
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I find Half-Life 2 to be one of the most overrated games of all time. It's a great game though.

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No that belongs to Halo and COD games pumped out every year. At least Half Life games take time and don't get rushed out.

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duke nukem dude, duke nukem
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#91 enterawesome
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I personally don't think so, but it is a great game. I think the movement feels a little weird (like I'm constantly getting stuck on walls and stuff), and the vehicles control like horsecrap, but besides that it's fine.
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No. As a pure video game adventure, it's rock solid due to its broad gameplay, likeable characters and excellent pace. In terms of action, though, I thought it falls short when compared to other shooters. Granted, HL2 came out a year before FEAR showed us what AI in modern FPS could and should be capable of, but even when placed in the context of its time, the AI just seems braindead. They don't even dodge grenades at times, which is like the most basic dynamic AI maneuver I can think of. Apart from the delicious gravity gun, the shooting mechanics were mellow and just not enjoyable at all to me. This is why I consider the late-game sequences in the prison and the return to City 17 to be a giant borefest that considerably lowered my enjoyment of the game.

So, in short: no. I think it's a great game that really pushed the genre forward in a few ways, but in the end it just falls a bit short to rank among the best.

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It's fantastic, there is no doubt about it. But even I can't put my finger on "the greatest" or "my favorite" because simply.....that can change with my mood and what kind of experience I want. On some days, yes HL2 is the greatest. Other days it's halo, other days it's quake 3, other days its counter strike, other days it's riddick......just depends. amazing game tho.

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#94 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]just because its so sad that its funny, black ops' story is better than half-life 2's story. hl2 is generic aliens taking over the world with generic mute protagonist that has no personality and just reacts like a robot would to the world around him. the gunplay isn't that great and the levels are all boring. all it has is physics and storyTELLING. its long, but all that is rewarding is hearing the other characters. unfortunately you cn be very lonely in hl2 being by yourself for many long sequences. black ops at least attempts something new. Vietnam shooters, while not exactly new, aren't done so often that they are everywhere on the market. however, this is not a vietnam war game. it has a few levels like that, but the focus is on other things happening. for a call of duty game, it is very unusual with levels revolving around breaking out of a prison and escaping a P.O.W. compound. there is much more focus on the stpry this time around and a few twists such as [spoiler] Nikolai from WaW meeting his gruesome end via Nova 6 to Reznov not actually being with you for most of the campaign as he was just a vision in your head [/spoiler] is it as good as it could be? no. but it is pretty entertaining. gameplay is a good as always (this is SP, there is no perks or killstreaks) and a good variety of missions from some interesting vechicle segments, to stealth, to standard war enviroments. Mason is actually believable as a human being and you kind of feel sorry for him after all that he has been through. Reznov is as awesome as always, and even woods is pretty good. (remember he won best character at the vgas for a reason) oh yeah. hudson is pretty sweet too. again not mentioning mp, because while good, hl doesn't really have much of one. there. believe my opinion or not, but the fact that i can even make an argument here over which shooter is better is kind of sad.

Difference is we don't play the synopsis on wikipedia. HL2's plot isn't original in any sense, it doesn't hide it. However it depiction of and Orwellian world and execution of narrative is absolutely superb, and well ahead of the vast majority of shooters, if not games in general. Gordon has been and will always be a storytelling device; his character being a slate is very intentional, and while it isn't always done well Valve pull it off remarkable, and give it reason within the context of narrative and gameplay. Which in this instance is better than playing as a character with an active personality without a shred of likeability. Whereas BLOPS is derivative in every sense. Dull script and characters, piled together also with an unoriginal plot. Manchurian candidate anyone? The disjointed narrative meant internal logic to the location hopping, the shame of it all was, that's all it was. There was no interesting twist on things, and the plot twists themselves were entirely predictable; the fact that cardboard cut-out characters and exploions were driving it all didn't help. Mason wasn't a believable protagonist; he was every bit a character archetype ripped out of X action or war film; same with Reznov or Woods. What actually gave some believability to the characters was the VA and decent character animation for most of the part. Citing the VGA's if anything hurts backing Reznov up as a 'good character'. This is the VGAs now; it's reputation only existing for developers to show hype trailers precedes it. Ultimately BLOPS was a decent shooter with a more interesting spin on narrative than other Call of Duty games, which isn't really saying much, considering how formulaic the series has been. Stagnated gameplay is what fits it.
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#95 Cranler
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It wasnt even the best of 2004. That goes to Far Cry.

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#96 cainetao11
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It is one of my favorites. But my preference does not equal best, as that would apply to all.
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no Half Life is
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#98 tomarlyn
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The shooting is weak, the AI predictable, easy combat and boring story. So no, its a great physic simulator. HL1 owns it.
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#99 HaloinventedFPS
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Doom is better

Half life 2 close second

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#100 lamprey263
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I might have thought this 6+ years ago when I first played HL2, but not these days.