Is Halo still considered a "heavy weight" FPS franchise?

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Meaning, can it still pull in the type of numbers the franchise has had before? It seems like there is a lot of uncertainty due to Bungie not being on the project and the more recent leaks that show some controversial changes to the series (i.e., aim down sites, sprinting). As someone who hasn't played Halo until getting my hands on MCC, I'm interested to see what direction it will go. Playing the first one so far and it's a blast.

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Huh, ther's no ADS. I'ts been said a million the ADS is basically a zoom, but with sight based design.

Honestly, 343i should be smart and put an option for normal zoom just to calm people down about that.

Anyway, Halo 4 sold over 8 million units. It was also latter stated that Halo 4 was the best selling Microsoft Studios in the US, surpassing Halo 3. Most likely, ww sales are over 9/10 million at this.

Recently, the franchise reached 60 million sales in total games.

Overall, it's the not the behemoth it once was when COD4 and other multiplater FPS and general console FPS didn't exist. However, it's still obviously a megaton franchise, specially in the FPS market.

I'm speaking of popularity in this case, not it's quality, sicne i've only played Halo CE on PC.

Halo 5 will most likely sell over 7M easily. Positive reviews might increase sales further. But that's for the future

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#4 HaloPimp978
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I would say yes its still a FPS heavywight though for me Halo 4 brought down the franchise I just wasnt a huge fan of that game.

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#5 GrenadeLauncher
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Nope. 343i's shambolic handling of Halo 4 and the MCC have damaged the brand. There will always be that contingent of insane Halodrones who will always lick up every shitty crumb, but it reached peak relevance with Halo 3 and declined ever since. When Game Informer don't put it in their most anticipated of 2015 list, you know something's gone wrong.

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@uninspiredcup said:

ha ha nice one mate

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it is big, but not as big as call of duty or battlefield.

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#9 Salt_The_Fries
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@GrenadeLauncher I have a Sony fanboy friend who thinks Halo 4 is the best Halo.

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#10  Edited By deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Halo 3 was and still is the best multiplayer game on 360, and continues on being the best multiplayer game on consoles........................heard too much bad stuff about the Collection.

Pc fanboys will tell you otherwise, but don't let that fool you. This whole "kiddie" shooter is a joke. These same people would claim a Disney themed Chess set as a kiddie game.

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@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

Half-Life?

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#13 Ross_the_Boss6
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Yes it is. And please do some research before you say Halo 5 has ADS.

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#14  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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any game series that sells 10m+ in every one of its main games is a fukin heavyweight

@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

cod aw if it counts

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The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

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#18  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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@jg4xchamp said:

The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

halo ce campaign is great imo, very rarely i enjoy a game when playing through it a second time. never played halo 2 but halo 3 was also pretty fun, not amazing though. reach is terrible and so is h4.

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@mr_wangtastic said:

barbie adventures

-my name is Lo Wang

You played Barbie Adventures? So casual gamer then.....

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#22 LJS9502_basic
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@mr_wangtastic said:

@LJS9502_basic said:
@mr_wangtastic said:

barbie adventures

-my name is Lo Wang

You played Barbie Adventures? So casual gamer then.....

hahahahahah. you fool CasuaLJ, i even refuse to play games where we play as female characters. even i hate tomb raider because of that. only men can be protagonist

dont mess with Wang

-My name is Lo Wang

Casual Wang is a misogynist. Who didn't see that coming.....aren't you tired of this yet Sniper?

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@mr_wangtastic said:

No, this is FPS for little childrens, unskilled gamers, girls, etc.

I agree with mr. wangtastic.

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#25 SecretPolice
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Not just any old heavy weight but rather... The Ali of heavy weights, no doubt about it. :P

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#28  Edited By Krelian-co
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@sts106mat said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

any game series that sells 10m+ in every one of its main games is a fukin heavyweight

@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

cod aw if it counts

Well even if we agree that it counts, it is still not a patch on halo.

I wouldn't count it as science fiction personally, its just fiction.

you think halo is bigger than cod? lems delusion is reaching new levels

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@deadline-zero0 said:

Huh, ther's no ADS. I'ts been said a million the ADS is basically a zoom, but with sight based design.

Honestly, 343i should be smart and put an option for normal zoom just to calm people down about that.

Anyway, Halo 4 sold over 8 million units. It was also latter stated that Halo 4 was the best selling Microsoft Studios in the US, surpassing Halo 3. Most likely, ww sales are over 9/10 million at this.

Recently, the franchise reached 60 million sales in total games.

Overall, it's the not the behemoth it once was when COD4 and other multiplater FPS and general console FPS didn't exist. However, it's still obviously a megaton franchise, specially in the FPS market.

I'm speaking of popularity in this case, not it's quality, sicne i've only played Halo CE on PC.

Halo 5 will most likely sell over 7M easily. Positive reviews might increase sales further. But that's for the future

Last I checked, CoD has never been Halo in sales on the XBox platform.

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#31  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@uninspiredcup: I've played numerous FPS games and I've STILL yet to play Halo, so... NOPE!

On topic - I'd say yes, but only to the extent of it being MS' main franchise.

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Not after KillZone killed it.

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#33 Krelian-co
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@sts106mat said:

@Krelian-co said:

@sts106mat said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

any game series that sells 10m+ in every one of its main games is a fukin heavyweight

@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

cod aw if it counts

Well even if we agree that it counts, it is still not a patch on halo.

I wouldn't count it as science fiction personally, its just fiction.

you think halo is bigger than cod? lems delusion is reaching new levels

i dont think that, i know that.

i play both....there is no comparison. for a start with halo, at least you can have a gunfight....in cod. he who shoots first wins. hence lots of people getting shot in the back.

its not fun, i dont understand how people can enjoy COD MP.

we are not asking for your preference or your fanboy drivel as to why, you asked which is bigger, not which is better.

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@Krelian-co said:

@sts106mat said:

@Krelian-co said:

@sts106mat said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

any game series that sells 10m+ in every one of its main games is a fukin heavyweight

@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

cod aw if it counts

Well even if we agree that it counts, it is still not a patch on halo.

I wouldn't count it as science fiction personally, its just fiction.

you think halo is bigger than cod? lems delusion is reaching new levels

i dont think that, i know that.

i play both....there is no comparison. for a start with halo, at least you can have a gunfight....in cod. he who shoots first wins. hence lots of people getting shot in the back.

its not fun, i dont understand how people can enjoy COD MP.

we are not asking for your preference or your fanboy drivel as to why, you asked which is bigger, not which is better.

Solely as a video game series, COD, as a franchise, Halo ei novels, comics, animated series etc.

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#36 Heil68
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Sure. It wills till sell like crazy and move consoles.

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#37  Edited By lglz1337
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it´s obviously

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#38 jg4xchamp
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

halo ce campaign is great imo, very rarely i enjoy a game when playing through it a second time. never played halo 2 but halo 3 was also pretty fun, not amazing though. reach is terrible and so is h4.

Would argue it was maybe great in 01, but at best now it's good. Lot of good segments, but some straight shitty level design. The Library is one thing, but people forget all the lame copy n pasted corridors in Assault on the Control Room and Guilty Spark. Not to mention how fucking lousy two betrayels is for being Assault on the Control Room, backwards, with the shitty flood. Keyes sucks up until the black elites show up, etc.

Fun game, and probably the best plot that series ever told (because the future games take themselves way too seriously), but great? eh It's frankly outclassed by better PC Shooters that came out then and after, not to mention stuff like Riddick and Metroid Prime.

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@jg4xchamp said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

halo ce campaign is great imo, very rarely i enjoy a game when playing through it a second time. never played halo 2 but halo 3 was also pretty fun, not amazing though. reach is terrible and so is h4.

Would argue it was maybe great in 01, but at best now it's good. Lot of good segments, but some straight shitty level design. The Library is one thing, but people forget all the lame copy n pasted corridors in Assault on the Control Room and Guilty Spark. Not to mention how fucking lousy two betrayels is for being Assault on the Control Room, backwards, with the shitty flood. Keyes sucks up until the black elites show up, etc.

Fun game, and probably the best plot that series ever told (because the future games take themselves way too seriously), but great? eh It's frankly outclassed by better PC Shooters that came out then and after, not to mention stuff like Riddick and Metroid Prime.

yeah some levels like that flood one are horrible but i really like the narrative and the gameplay was great for its time and still hold up great. it was probably the first fps i really liked, used to play doom/duke nukem 3d back in the day but never really enjoyed them. ive still not played any metroid game yet, im going to upgrade my pc and play them with dolphin when i get around to it.

which riddick game are u referring too? never played any of them

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

halo ce campaign is great imo, very rarely i enjoy a game when playing through it a second time. never played halo 2 but halo 3 was also pretty fun, not amazing though. reach is terrible and so is h4.

Would argue it was maybe great in 01, but at best now it's good. Lot of good segments, but some straight shitty level design. The Library is one thing, but people forget all the lame copy n pasted corridors in Assault on the Control Room and Guilty Spark. Not to mention how fucking lousy two betrayels is for being Assault on the Control Room, backwards, with the shitty flood. Keyes sucks up until the black elites show up, etc.

Fun game, and probably the best plot that series ever told (because the future games take themselves way too seriously), but great? eh It's frankly outclassed by better PC Shooters that came out then and after, not to mention stuff like Riddick and Metroid Prime.

yeah some levels like that flood one are horrible but i really like the narrative and the gameplay was great for its time and still hold up great. it was probably the first fps i really liked, used to play doom/duke nukem 3d back in the day but never really enjoyed them. ive still not played any metroid game yet, im going to upgrade my pc and play them with dolphin when i get around to it.

which riddick game are u referring too? never played any of them

Butcher Bay, Dark Athena is terrible.

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After Halo 4 I'm not to sure. Nostalgia can drive the sales of Halo MCC but 343 has a lot prove with Halo 5 if it's going to be a big success. Then again, the Xbox One's lack of exclusive titles may work in Halo 5's advantage sales wise.

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@jg4xchamp said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

The games still sell and are treated like Microsoft's big gun, so yeah Halo is still a heavywieght.

Has Halo actually been excellent post Halo 2? I would argue no, and campaign wise I would argue it was never great.

halo ce campaign is great imo, very rarely i enjoy a game when playing through it a second time. never played halo 2 but halo 3 was also pretty fun, not amazing though. reach is terrible and so is h4.

Would argue it was maybe great in 01, but at best now it's good. Lot of good segments, but some straight shitty level design. The Library is one thing, but people forget all the lame copy n pasted corridors in Assault on the Control Room and Guilty Spark. Not to mention how fucking lousy two betrayels is for being Assault on the Control Room, backwards, with the shitty flood. Keyes sucks up until the black elites show up, etc.

Fun game, and probably the best plot that series ever told (because the future games take themselves way too seriously), but great? eh It's frankly outclassed by better PC Shooters that came out then and after, not to mention stuff like Riddick and Metroid Prime.

yeah some levels like that flood one are horrible but i really like the narrative and the gameplay was great for its time and still hold up great. it was probably the first fps i really liked, used to play doom/duke nukem 3d back in the day but never really enjoyed them. ive still not played any metroid game yet, im going to upgrade my pc and play them with dolphin when i get around to it.

which riddick game are u referring too? never played any of them

Butcher Bay, Dark Athena is terrible.

the original is going to be a bastard to find on pc, ill probably just have to settle with the remake

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@Wasdie: Are you implying the PS4 has a lot more exclusives than XB1?

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@sts106mat said:

@Krelian-co said:

@sts106mat said:

@Krelian-co said:

@sts106mat said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

any game series that sells 10m+ in every one of its main games is a fukin heavyweight

@sts106mat said:

name a bigger sci-fi fps franchise.

cod aw if it counts

Well even if we agree that it counts, it is still not a patch on halo.

I wouldn't count it as science fiction personally, its just fiction.

you think halo is bigger than cod? lems delusion is reaching new levels

i dont think that, i know that.

i play both....there is no comparison. for a start with halo, at least you can have a gunfight....in cod. he who shoots first wins. hence lots of people getting shot in the back.

its not fun, i dont understand how people can enjoy COD MP.

we are not asking for your preference or your fanboy drivel as to why, you asked which is bigger, not which is better.

try reading again you clown. I said name a bigger Sci-fi FPS, he answered with "COD:AW if it counts", for a start i wouldn't class it as science fiction. Halo is a bigger franchise, it has books, comics, toys, plenty more going for it than COD, which is going the guitar hero route very soon IMO.

HAHAHAHA lems are delusional no matter how you want to put it, even if you have to resort to comics toys etc that don't have to do anything with gaming cod is still bigger, cod is the biggest franchise right now doesn't matter if a sad fanboy like you say it's not.

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Only in the xbot land.

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#49  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@StormyJoe: If it gets you all bothered and angry then sure. Really I don't give a shit about which console has more but if you would prefer to read into my statements just to start the typical, nonsensical System Wars arguing, then by all means infer whatever you want from what I said.