Is Halo Wars the worst RTS game this year?

As far as I know, the only three RTS released this year were DoW2, ETW and Halo Wars. Halo Wars loses by default.pyromaniac223

Well yeah, Halo Wars is on the console and ETW and DoW2 (I really need to play those, cruse you limited amount offree time)are on the PC of coruse they would be better.

It's selling because it has 'Halo' in it, and I'm willing to bet the majority that actually know it's an RTS just bought it for the mythic map pack.Zoso-8

I bought halowars expecting a ok game + amazing maps. But I was amazed by how good it is. If you say HW sucks answer the following question: How much have played the game? a) Not at all b) 1-8 missions c) 9-15 missions d) whole campaign + all multiplayer (1v1, 2v2, and 3v3) If your answer is d, you have a right to your opinion. Otherwise, play the ****ing game first.

Two words: End War.clembo1990

RTT.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Two words: End War.aliblabla2007

RTT.

If you want to compare it to other RTS's on PC then, Yes....Not saying that its the worse but i was meaning that you would find better. If not then, no. Its a really good RTS console game.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Two words: End War.clembo1990

RTT.

I never said anything about E:TW in this thread.

And even if I may find it to be the best game ever made when I get it, I'd say it wouldn't count in this thread because it's not an RTS.

Of the mentions in this thread, only Dawn of War II and Halo Wars are RTSs. Discounting ports from last year.

Compared to PC RTS, like Empire: Total War, it is bad

RA3 is worstNisim19

I am sick of these Halo Wars hate threads. If you can put up evidence that you played it for more than a few minutes, and you have some real complaints about the game, OK, air them. However, it seems like almost all the haters have no idea what they are talking about with the game and are just parroting bits from different reviews.

IMO, Halo Wars is exactly what I wanted (old school, simple RTS like the old PC RTS games like Warcraft) with a bit more (Skirmish and online are amazingly fun).SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]It's selling because it has 'Halo' in it, and I'm willing to bet the majority that actually know it's an RTS just bought it for the mythic map pack.Ross_the_B0SS

I guess it's too hard to believe it's a fun game...oh man, I almost gagged at the idea of it.

Heh, well you'd be hard pressed to say hes lying...& just judging from the demo(Im still thinking about a purchase at bargain bin price) I'd say its fun but so shallow that its hard to take it serious as an rts. Well not as hard as endwar. People are right, that game is even more shallow and very bare bones. What a waste of dev time overall but a nice "foot in the door" approach for a new beginning in rts games.

So Im going to agree with many here and pull the endwar card but halo wars quite frankly isnt too far off.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am sick of these Halo Wars hate threads. If you can put up evidence that you played it for more than a few minutes, and you have some real complaints about the game, OK, air them. However, it seems like almost all the haters have no idea what they are talking about with the game and are just parroting bits from different reviews.

IMO, Halo Wars is exactly what I wanted (old school, simple RTS like the old PC RTS games like Warcraft) with a bit more (Skirmish and online are amazingly fun).Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I am sick of these Halo Wars hate threads. If you can put up evidence that you played it for more than a few minutes, and you have some real complaints about the game, OK, air them. However, it seems like almost all the haters have no idea what they are talking about with the game and are just parroting bits from different reviews.

IMO, Halo Wars is exactly what I wanted (old school, simple RTS like the old PC RTS games like Warcraft) with a bit more (Skirmish and online are amazingly fun).xsubtownerx

lmao... what a joke. I played more then half the game, yet it's not enough to give an opinoin on the game? It's not like the game hides it's complexities until the end of the game. 95% of the gameplay is unveiled after level 2.

You're digging.

End War would take that distinction.

End War would take that distinction.

MBP_King

[QUOTE="MBP_King"]

End War would take that distinction.

Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="MBP_King"]

End War would take that distinction.

mitu123

Just amusing to note how there's a number of people who claim that they don't see Halo Wars on his gamer profile even though it's like the 3rd game shown on that picture. Seems like some of those defending Halo Wars never played it for themselves.

lmao... what a joke. I played more then half the game, yet it's not enough to give an opinoin on the game? It's not like the game hides it's complexities until the end of the game. 95% of the gameplay is unveiled after level 2.

You're digging.

Mehdi1984

Just amusing to note how there's a number of people who claim that they don't see Halo Wars on his gamer profile even though it's like the 3rd game shown on that picture. Seems like some of those defending Halo Wars never played it for themselves.

Span_Argoman

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]

lmao... what a joke. I played more then half the game, yet it's not enough to give an opinoin on the game? It's not like the game hides it's complexities until the end of the game. 95% of the gameplay is unveiled after level 2.

You're digging.

SpruceCaboose

But assuming you played at least a bit of it, what are your complaints that make it a terrible game.

[QUOTE="Span_Argoman"]

Just amusing to note how there's a number of people who claim that they don't see Halo Wars on his gamer profile even though it's like the 3rd game shown on that picture. Seems like some of those defending Halo Wars never played it for themselves.

SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]

lmao... what a joke. I played more then half the game, yet it's not enough to give an opinoin on the game? It's not like the game hides it's complexities until the end of the game. 95% of the gameplay is unveiled after level 2.

You're digging.

Mehdi1984

But assuming you played at least a bit of it, what are your complaints that make it a terrible game.

You haven't addressed what makes it a shallow game though. All you've done is say it is simple without giving any evidence as to why you think so.

Even further, you haven't addressed why this game being simple inherently makes it a bad game.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]

lmao... what a joke. I played more then half the game, yet it's not enough to give an opinoin on the game? It's not like the game hides it's complexities until the end of the game. 95% of the gameplay is unveiled after level 2.

You're digging.

Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Span_Argoman"]

Just amusing to note how there's a number of people who claim that they don't see Halo Wars on his gamer profile even though it's like the 3rd game shown on that picture. Seems like some of those defending Halo Wars never played it for themselves.

Mehdi1984

You haven't addressed what makes it a shallow game though. All you've done is say it is simple without giving any evidence as to why you think so.

Even further, you haven't addressed why this game being simple inherently makes it a bad game.

Kickinurass

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

You haven't addressed what makes it a shallow game though. All you've done is say it is simple without giving any evidence as to why you think so.

Even further, you haven't addressed why this game being simple inherently makes it a bad game.

Mehdi1984

Just because the core game mechanices are simple doesn't mean the game has to be primative or shallow. Halo Wars is not my first RTS, My first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Halo Wars is not the best RTS, but it is still a fun RTS to play.

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

You haven't addressed what makes it a shallow game though. All you've done is say it is simple without giving any evidence as to why you think so.

Even further, you haven't addressed why this game being simple inherently makes it a bad game.

Chaos_HL21

Just because the core game mechanices are simple doesn't mean the game has to be primative or shallow. Halo Wars is not my first RTS, My first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Halo Wars is not the best RTS, but it is still a fun RTS to play.

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

You haven't addressed what makes it a shallow game though. All you've done is say it is simple without giving any evidence as to why you think so.

Even further, you haven't addressed why this game being simple inherently makes it a bad game.

Mehdi1984

IF you're implying this is my first RTS's, I've played AoE:2 and 3, EE1 and EE2, AoM and CoH. Not that great, but I have experience with the genre.

I have some gripes with the game - there is some diffuculty in micromanaging your troops without a hotkey-like function. The paintbrush is rather large for my taste. There could be many more units - terrain variation could be more incoporated into the gameplay, among a few other minors problems. You're inability to create a cohesive argument while you claim the game is simple undermines your own points.

Vandalvideo has made many good points as to why he finds the game is shallow. I disagree with him, but if you're going to make the claim I expect some evidence if you want to be taken seriously.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]because I'm arguing with people for whom this is their first RTS -- I don't know. If that's the case, sure, I don't expect you to understand. Mehdi1984

Just because the core game mechanices are simple doesn't mean the game has to be primative or shallow. Halo Wars is not my first RTS, My first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Halo Wars is not the best RTS, but it is still a fun RTS to play.

Ok maybe you are focusing on what you see makes the game "primitive". I don't see that. Also you should not make claims that Halo Wars is people's first RTS. Just because people like 'Simple' RTS does not make it their first.

I enjoy Halo Wars alot and my first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Which is pretty much the Doom of RTS. Not the first but the game that establishedthe format. So please don't just say Halo Wars is peoples first RTS.

This is a serious discussion. Technically, is Halo Wars the worst RTS game so far this year? worst RTS overall this year?

As far as I can tell, it is. What game specifically is worse then it?

Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Just because the core game mechanices are simple doesn't mean the game has to be primative or shallow. Halo Wars is not my first RTS, My first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Halo Wars is not the best RTS, but it is still a fun RTS to play.

Chaos_HL21

Ok maybe you are focusing on what you see makes the game "primitive". I don't see that. Also you should not make claims that Halo Wars is people's first RTS. Just because people like 'Simple' RTS does not make it their first.

I enjoy Halo Wars alot and my first RTS was Dune II on the Genesis. Which is pretty much the Doom of RTS. Not the first but the game that establishedthe format. So please don't just say Halo Wars is peoples first RTS.

This is a serious discussion. Technically, is Halo Wars the worst RTS game so far this year? worst RTS overall this year?

As far as I can tell, it is. What game specifically is worse then it?

Mehdi1984

yes it is, whatever make u sleep better

I wasn't trying to offend you with that comment. I was being serious, as it's the only way to explain how it isn't self-evident to you as to what I mean. That said, Dune II on the genesis? I know the Dune series very well, however I can't comment on it's console counterpart as it only makes me wonder if IT TOO was stripped down. Sure.... you like simple. Fine. But that doesn't mean it's not primative. Primitive is a subjective label used to imply that one thing is less "sophisticated" or less "advanced" than some other thing. Being a comparative word it is also relative in nature.Mehdi1984

Not sure about the Dune II, but the game was very simple, it came out on 1992 for DOS, and we were in West Germany at the time, and I don't think we ever had the chance to play it. I was able to play it with the Sega Channel, a project for the Genesis that downloads a number of Genesis games every month (kinda like DLC before DLC).

Halo Warsis not as sophisticated as Supreme Commander, but sometimes I don't want to play something like Supreme Commander. Halo Wars could be a fast fun RTS. Like Civ Rev for the consoles. It is simpler than the Civ on the PC. But Civ Rev is still a blast to play.

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]I wasn't trying to offend you with that comment. I was being serious, as it's the only way to explain how it isn't self-evident to you as to what I mean. That said, Dune II on the genesis? I know the Dune series very well, however I can't comment on it's console counterpart as it only makes me wonder if IT TOO was stripped down. Sure.... you like simple. Fine. But that doesn't mean it's not primative. Primitive is a subjective label used to imply that one thing is less "sophisticated" or less "advanced" than some other thing. Being a comparative word it is also relative in nature.Chaos_HL21

Not sure about the Dune II, but the game was very simple, it came out on 1992 for DOS, and we were in West Germany at the time, and I don't think we ever had the chance to play it. I was able to play it with the Sega Channel, a project for the Genesis that downloads a number of Genesis games every month (kinda like DLC before DLC).

Halo Warsis not as sophisticated as Supreme Commander, but sometimes I don't want to play something like Supreme Commander. Halo Wars could be a fast fun RTS. Like Civ Rev for the consoles. It is simpler than the Civ on the PC. But Civ Rev is still a blast to play.

Sometimes you want to play a primitive and simple game. I get it. Sometimes I like to play old school games too.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]I wasn't trying to offend you with that comment. I was being serious, as it's the only way to explain how it isn't self-evident to you as to what I mean. That said, Dune II on the genesis? I know the Dune series very well, however I can't comment on it's console counterpart as it only makes me wonder if IT TOO was stripped down. Sure.... you like simple. Fine. But that doesn't mean it's not primative. Primitive is a subjective label used to imply that one thing is less "sophisticated" or less "advanced" than some other thing. Being a comparative word it is also relative in nature.Mehdi1984

Not sure about the Dune II, but the game was very simple, it came out on 1992 for DOS, and we were in West Germany at the time, and I don't think we ever had the chance to play it. I was able to play it with the Sega Channel, a project for the Genesis that downloads a number of Genesis games every month (kinda like DLC before DLC).

Halo Warsis not as sophisticated as Supreme Commander, but sometimes I don't want to play something like Supreme Commander. Halo Wars could be a fast fun RTS. Like Civ Rev for the consoles. It is simpler than the Civ on the PC. But Civ Rev is still a blast to play.

Halo Wars is like Civilization Revolution, It is not as deep as Civilization on the PCs. It is still a blast to play (which got a 9 here). Halo Wars is in the same way, not as deep as stuff on the PC but still is fun to play.

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Not sure about the Dune II, but the game was very simple, it came out on 1992 for DOS, and we were in West Germany at the time, and I don't think we ever had the chance to play it. I was able to play it with the Sega Channel, a project for the Genesis that downloads a number of Genesis games every month (kinda like DLC before DLC).

Halo Warsis not as sophisticated as Supreme Commander, but sometimes I don't want to play something like Supreme Commander. Halo Wars could be a fast fun RTS. Like Civ Rev for the consoles. It is simpler than the Civ on the PC. But Civ Rev is still a blast to play.

Chaos_HL21

Halo Wars is like Civilization Revolution, It is not as deep as Civilization on the PCs. It is still a blast to play (which got a 9 here). Halo Wars is in the same way, not as deep as stuff on the PC but still is fun to play.

and Halo Wars got a 6.5 here dawg. Bad comparison.Mehdi1984

Ok let me admend that. Civ Rev got a 9 on Gamespot, but on Metacritic it has a 84. Halo Wars got a 6.5 here, but on Metacritic it has a 82. Gamespot only matters in cases of flops on System Wars. To me their reviews seems to go down hill (but that seems to be true for most review sites, such as Disgaea 3 )

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] and Halo Wars got a 6.5 here dawg. Bad comparison.Chaos_HL21

Ok let me admend that. Civ Rev got a 9 on Gamespot, but on Metacritic it has a 84. Halo Wars got a 6.5 here, but on Metacritic it has a 82. Gamespot only matters in cases of flops on System Wars. To me their reviews seems to go down hill (but that seems to be true for most review sites, such as Disgaea 3 )