I think Phil has done some good things. Play Anywhere is huge as it allows people to play games the way they want. I have no interest in playing games on console. I only care about the games and not the shit hardware that limits them. The biggest issue is there was not a steady investment in MS published titles. There has been a void to fill compared to last gen and MS is in the uncomfortable position of waiting until their next round of titles are finished. It has been poor planning overall as they should have invested in enough studios and spread out releases so that if games get cancelled, you have others to pick up the slack.
I think Phil has done some good things. Play Anywhere is huge as it allows people to play games the way they want. I have no interest in playing games on console. I only care about the games and not the shit hardware that limits them. The biggest issue is there was not a steady investment in MS published titles. There has been a void to fill compared to last gen and MS is in the uncomfortable position of waiting until their next round of titles are finished. It has been poor planning overall as they should have invested in enough studios and spread out releases so that if games get cancelled, you have others to pick up the slack.
Last gen the Xbox mostly sported third party games and the better version of these third party games. This idea that they were different back then doesn't seem to add up. I owned a PS3 for years before purchasing a 360 and that was mostly because it lacked titles of interest that were exclusive to the system. The same thing occurred this time around except the PS4 had all the same game set as the PS3 but the power advantage that the 360 had and it cost less. The two things that the 360 initially had over the PS3. So, what you are left with is the 360 without the power and the price advantage called the Xbox One.
Now play anywhere is most awesome and MS seems to be pushing this feature that is a win for all gamers. By making all of their future games XPA is demoing commitment to the platform that was absent in their past Windows and Xbox integration which was half assed.
Phil Spencer: sees no value in new IP's, just cancels them.
Doesn't understand why gamers want 60fps 'who needs it?' he asked in a Gamespot interview.
Thinks single player gaming is dead, later retracted but he spoke his fool thoughts aloud into a microphone and can't take it back.
Gave ALL Xbox 'exclusives' to PC, completely undermining the platform he was hired to promote and develop.
Spent YEARS as Head of Xbox and their first party line-up now no longer exists. Instead he recently defended his role by pointing out BC and 'gaming services' were his big priorities and now after all these years he will think about putting some actual games on his fucking games console.
Thinks the best way to promote AAA MS games (not that they have had any for a million years but it will happen again, presumably) is by giving them away for free with Game Pass so people can pay £1 for a month trial, finish the game then cancel. Genius.
The man is an absolute idiot, i.e. an absolutely PERFECT candidate to be head of a Microsoft division as he has not a fucking clue what the hell he is doing at any given time and now he has run the Xbox division into the ground he has no idea what to do.
Xbot clowns on here will defend him to the death regardless. Why? Beats me, seriously, it really does. For a long time I have been of the opinion that MS pay people like Nyad to spew their pro MS drivel on here, maybe they've got a whole crew?
Phil Spencer: sees no value in new IP's, just cancels them.
Doesn't understand why gamers want 60fps 'who needs it?' he asked in a Gamespot interview.
Thinks single player gaming is dead, later retracted but he spoke his fool thoughts aloud into a microphone and can't take it back.
Gave ALL Xbox 'exclusives' to PC, completely undermining the platform he was hired to promote and develop.
Spent YEARS as Head of Xbox and their first party line-up now no longer exists. Instead he recently defended his role by pointing out BC and 'gaming services' were his big priorities and now after all these years he will think about putting some actual games on his fucking games console.
Thinks the best way to promote AAA MS games (not that they have had any for a million years but it will happen again, presumably) is by giving them away for free with Game Pass so people can pay £1 for a month trial, finish the game then cancel. Genius.
The man is an absolute idiot, i.e. an absolutely PERFECT candidate to be head of a Microsoft division as he has not a fucking clue what the hell he is doing at any given time and now he has run the Xbox division into the ground he has no idea what to do.
Xbot clowns on here will defend him to the death regardless. Why? Beats me, seriously, it really does. For a long time I have been of the opinion that MS pay people like Nyad to spew their pro MS drivel on here, maybe they've got a whole crew?
Sometimes I wonder if you guys are even capable of being REMOTELY objective?
@Pedro: MS invested a lot more into games last gen and they haven't really filled the void this gen. Fable, Alan Wake, Kameo, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Viva Pinata, Ninety-Nine Nights, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Mass Effect, PGR, Top Spin, etc.. Also, their usual Halo/Forza/Gears were generally better last gen. Honestly, Kinect is the worst thing that ever happened for Xbox. They completely lost their focus and have been struggling ever since.
@Pedro: MS invested a lot more into games last gen and they haven't really filled in the void this gen. Fable, Alan Wake, Kameo, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Viva Pinata, Ninety-Nine Nights, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Mass Effect, PGR, Top Spin, etc.. Also, their usual Halo/Forza/Gears were generally better last gen. Honestly, Kinect is the worst thing that ever happened for Xbox. They completely lost their focus and have been struggling ever since.
If you look at that list and the roll over to the One. Fable was funded with Fable Legends and that game was a mess judging from the beta. If people thought Sea of Thieves was a flop Fable Legends was going to be a bigger flop. Regardless money was invested despite it being cancelled. The makers of Alan Wake was funded for Quantum Break which was a less than stellar game and a huge investment on MS part. Perfect Dark, Banjo and Viva Pinata were all Rare games but for the past 5 years Rare made that Kinect game and Sea of Thieves. Ninety - Nine Nights, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey were all flops for the Xbox 360, the closest Japenese investments for MS are Scalebound and Recore. Recore was average while Scalebound was canned. Still money was invested in both. Too Human flopped and flopped hard. PGR replacement are the Forza games and there is no a shortage of PGR type games on the system. Top Spin was a multiplatform game like Mass Effect.
So, with all that said these games mentioned were not the reason the 360 were on top. MS invested either the same or greater for the Xbox One but it lacked the 360 advantage that being power and price. The 360 exclusives were not on the same level as Sony or Nintendo and that lameness simply carried over to the Xbox One. It seems like only now people came to that realization and has this false idea that the 360 was some exclusive power house and MS was pumping out stellar exclusives outside of Halo/Forza/Gears.
@Pedro: MS invested a lot more into games last gen and they haven't really filled in the void this gen. Fable, Alan Wake, Kameo, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Viva Pinata, Ninety-Nine Nights, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Mass Effect, PGR, Top Spin, etc.. Also, their usual Halo/Forza/Gears were generally better last gen. Honestly, Kinect is the worst thing that ever happened for Xbox. They completely lost their focus and have been struggling ever since.
If you look at that list and the roll over to the One. Fable was funded with Fable Legends and that game was a mess judging from the beta. If people thought Sea of Thieves was a flop Fable Legends was going to be a bigger flop. Regardless money was invested despite it being cancelled. The makers of Alan Wake was funded for Quantum Break which was a less than stellar game and a huge investment on MS part. Perfect Dark, Banjo and Viva Pinata were all Rare games but for the past 5 years Rare made that Kinect game and Sea of Thieves. Ninety - Nine Nights, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey were all flops for the Xbox 360, the closest Japenese investments for MS are Scalebound and Recore. Recore was average while Scalebound was canned. Still money was invested in both. Too Human flopped and flopped hard. PGR replacement are the Forza games and there is no a shortage of PGR type games on the system. Top Spin was a multiplatform game like Mass Effect.
So, with all that said these games mentioned were not the reason the 360 were on top. MS invested either the same or greater for the Xbox One but it lacked the 360 advantage that being power and price. The 360 exclusives were not on the same level as Sony or Nintendo and that lameness simply carried over to the Xbox One. It seems like only now people came to that realization and has this false idea that the 360 was some exclusive power house and MS was pumping out stellar exclusives outside of Halo/Forza/Gears.
The point is that there were good and noteworthy games on 360 that were exclusive. The quantity and quality of MS published games has dropped this gen. They need to invest in more and better games.
BTW, Top Spin 2 was not published by MS like the original, but it wasn't on PS3. Also, Mass Effect 1 was an exclusive for a long time.
The point is that there were good and noteworthy games on 360 that were exclusive. The quantity and quality of MS published games has dropped this gen. They need to invest in more and better games.
As I have clearly stated they are investing. No one can argue that they are not. The exclusives you mentioned were not noteworthy before outside of the the standard Halo/Forza/Gears which is not true. MS strategy cannot be the same as it was for the 360 because the dynamics has changed. The only thing that I can agree with you on is that they need trending games which they currently lack.
Scalebound with UE4 and open world runs poorly on XBO. Forza Horizon 3's engine is better handling open world with good graphics.
It has nothing to do with how the game ran,plenty of games run poorly on xbox one.
The xbox had more quality exclusives under Mattrick that under spencer,is a fact not my opinion by the way.
@ronvalencia said:
Forward Plus render (as per AMD's recommendation over deferred rendering) and efficient open world processing... these items that are late for UE4.
X1X GPU was modified to handle UE4's deferred rendering, but it's too late for XBO.
Forza Horizon 3 has Forward Plus render and PBR combination.
This thread is not a tech debate,your argument has nothing to do with the topic,please stop bringing performance and crap like that to steer topics away,Scalebound was cancel because MS didn't want to invest any more on the game period they are cutting the wallet on the division,it has been know for a while now.
I like what he has done so far and it seems Microsoft has to because they upgraded his position. He had a total **** nut of a mess to cleanup and I think it was so bad that it has taken him a lot of time. I will judge him more on the next gen and how he handles that. Remember he has not done a total generation from start to finish yet. Microsoft fucked up pretty bad at the start of this one.
I like what he has done so far and it seems Microsoft has to because they upgraded his position. He had a total **** nut of a mess to cleanup and I think it was so bad that it has taken him a lot of time. I will judge him more on the next gen and how he handles that. Remember he has not done a total generation from start to finish yet. Microsoft fucked up pretty bad at the start of this one.
He was part of that mess,and he already admit it,replacing Mattrick with Phil was nothing more than a face wash by MS,Phill was part of all MS anti consumer policies and how the xbox one turn out he was there,what happen after Phil took control is simply damage control by MS.
Dom was to much under fire for speaking his mind,so they took another member less burn from the same team and replace him,but all was a 180 move done by MS on a higher level,which is why Phil is now facing a division with no exclusives,and focused on BC with previous xbox platforms.
The xbox one is nothing like the xbox 360,few exclusives,low quality games,the xbox losing its identity to PC,reliving past glory days,all is happening under phil yet people believe that he is doing a great job,i can't blame him for what is happening,as i already say those moves come from higher ground inside MS,Phil is just a face there.
"Is it time to admit that Phil Spencer is da man?"
You bet he is. :P
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Scalebound with UE4 and open world runs poorly on XBO. Forza Horizon 3's engine is better handling open world with good graphics.
1. It has nothing to do with how the game ran,plenty of games run poorly on xbox one.
2. The xbox had more quality exclusives under Mattrick that under spencer,is a fact not my opinion by the way.
1. FALSE. You didn't factor in the reasons for forward rendering feature that was added in recent UE4 builds
2. Mattrick joined MS at July 2007, but game development inertia has been built into Xbox 360 platform before Mattrick joined MS.
Kinect was pushed under Mattrick which caused price allocation for Xbox One design to be allocated toward Kinect hardware and compromised GPU solution.
A high spec hardware gives the game programmer higher head room to be less optimised.
The facts: Mattrick is the person that was pushed out of MS NOT Spencer!
@ronvalencia said:
Forward Plus render (as per AMD's recommendation over deferred rendering) and efficient open world processing... these items that are late for UE4.
X1X GPU was modified to handle UE4's deferred rendering, but it's too late for XBO.
Forza Horizon 3 has Forward Plus render and PBR combination.
This thread is not a tech debate,your argument has nothing to do with the topic,please stop bringing performance and crap like that to steer topics away,Scalebound was cancel because MS didn't want to invest any more on the game period they are cutting the wallet on the division,it has been know for a while now.
The only crap is your argument. One of the main reasons for Scalebound's cancellation is poor performance.
1. FALSE. You didn't factor in the reasons for forward rendering feature that was added in recent UE4 builds
2. Mattrick joined MS at July 2007, but game development inertia has been built into Xbox 360 platform before Mattrick joined MS.
Kinect was pushed under Mattrick which caused price allocation for Xbox One design to be allocated toward Kinect hardware and compromised GPU solution.
A high spec hardware gives the game programmer higher head room to be less optimised.
The facts: Mattrick is the person that was pushed out of MS NOT Spencer!
The only crap is your argument. One of the main reasons for Scalebound's cancellation is poor performance.
1-Performance wasn't the reason for the game been cancel,many games run like shit on xbox one,so you are bringing performance to insert your usual tech drivel.
2-The xbox 360 didn't stop getting exclusives in 2007,and Kinect came in 2010,the xbox one kinect crap is the results of LEMMINGS actually bytting into the camera,the PS2 had a camera and didn't sell like Kinect even that the PS2 user base almost double the xbox 360 one,but on xbox 360 fanboys actually bought the thing in record numbers.
Microsoft Kinect sales set new Guinness World Record
Is there is someone to blame for Kinect on xbox one,it you xbox fans,you bought Kinect for xbox 360 in record numbers even make it the fastest selling device on guiness 10 million in 3 months.
MS simply gave you what you wanted you can blame Mattrick all you want,Kinect on xbox one is no one fault but xbox fans,by the way the console was also heavily TV oriented and guess who was watching more movies on their online service than playing games on xbox 360?
Xbox now used more for online entertainment than online gaming.
Yusuf Mehdi, who heads up marketing and strategy for Microsoft's Xbox business, said households now spend an average of 84 hours a month on the Xbox Live online service playing games, watching videos and listening to music. That's up 30% from a year ago. Just over half that time is spent on videos and music.
The only crap is your argument,you are trying to argue performance on a thread that has nothing whatsoever to do with performance.
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
That was some serious ranting right there, from op.
As to Phil, MS has a long history of putting the least qualified people in charge of their projects. that's tradition, that is. And you cannot argue with tradition. no siree.
But heres a question; why do you care? Why? I mean if you want to play awesome exclusives and great games, just go out and buy PS4 or Switch. It dont cost much. Problem solved. And as to those that insist on sticking it out with xbox, refusing any other console, well, to hell with them.
I WANT the Xbox brand to succeed because I was originally more of a fan of that brand.
I've never seen so many meltdowns, can this just become an Xbox forum because that seems to be the only thing people are talking about lol
Meltdown? No I'm legit disappointed because I want the Xbox brand to COMPETE with the PS4. Me who preferred the Xbox brand over Playstation. But yea I'm a PS fanboy.
They're just going to insult you now. They are still in denial. The same thing happened with the Wii U. At first people were defending them. Though when Nintendo revealed that they are releasing the NX soon, they admitted that it sucked and started talking about how Nintendo can improve with the NX. I imagine that the same thing will happen with the Xbox One once Microsoft tells them they're releasing a brand new console.
Yep. They did the same thing with Don Mattrick. I remember back in 2011 when the 360 ONLY had Gears 4 and Forza in terms of non-Kinect exclusives while the PS3 had numbers after numbers of exclusives and yet people were still defending Mattrick.
1. FALSE. You didn't factor in the reasons for forward rendering feature that was added in recent UE4 builds
2. Mattrick joined MS at July 2007, but game development inertia has been built into Xbox 360 platform before Mattrick joined MS.
Kinect was pushed under Mattrick which caused price allocation for Xbox One design to be allocated toward Kinect hardware and compromised GPU solution.
A high spec hardware gives the game programmer higher head room to be less optimised.
The facts: Mattrick is the person that was pushed out of MS NOT Spencer!
The only crap is your argument. One of the main reasons for Scalebound's cancellation is poor performance.
1-Performance wasn't the reason for the game been cancel,many games run like shit on xbox one,so you are bringing performance to insert your usual tech drivel.
2-The xbox 360 didn't stop getting exclusives in 2007,and Kinect came in 2010,the xbox one kinect crap is the results of LEMMINGS actually bytting into the camera,the PS2 had a camera and didn't sell like Kinect even that the PS2 user base almost double the xbox 360 one,but on xbox 360 fanboys actually bought the thing in record numbers.
Microsoft Kinect sales set new Guinness World Record
Is there is someone to blame for Kinect on xbox one,it you xbox fans,you bought Kinect for xbox 360 in record numbers even make it the fastest selling device on guiness 10 million in 3 months.
MS simply gave you what you wanted you can blame Mattrick all you want,Kinect on xbox one is no one fault but xbox fans,by the way the console was also heavily TV oriented and guess who was watching more movies on their online service than playing games on xbox 360?
Xbox now used more for online entertainment than online gaming.
Yusuf Mehdi, who heads up marketing and strategy for Microsoft's Xbox business, said households now spend an average of 84 hours a month on the Xbox Live online service playing games, watching videos and listening to music. That's up 30% from a year ago. Just over half that time is spent on videos and music.
The only crap is your argument,you are trying to argue performance on a thread that has nothing whatsoever to do with performance.
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
Phil Spencer is as guilty as Mattrick for how the xbox one turned out and he admit it him self,the only one who can't admit it is you.
Phil is nothing more than a Face on the xbox division just like Mattrick was.
1. Kinect sales was built on top of existing Xbox 360 install base. Xbox 360's GPU cost structure wasn't burdened by Kinect!
2. Wii U's failure was a warning and MS followed Nintendo into the cliff. Mattrick paid the price for the failure NOT Spencer. Mattrick has command responsibility while Spencer is a just corporate yes man.
3. Performance was an issue with Scalebound. In terms of frame rate, ALL MS branded games has solid frame rate on XBO.
Scalebound has performance problems and it's very late.
Scalebound also appeared to be having some performance issues on Xbox One. Whether these issues affected the PC version that was also planned for release remains a mystery
Scalebound has performance problems and it's very late.
Scalebound also appeared to be having some performance issues on Xbox One. Whether these issues affected the PC version that was also planned for release remains a mystery
1. Kinect sales was built on top of existing Xbox 360 install base. Xbox 360's GPU cost structure wasn't burdened by Kinect!
2. Wii U's failure was a warning and MS followed Nintendo into the cliff. Mattrick paid the price for the failure NOT Spencer. Mattrick has command responsibility while Spencer is a just corporate yes man.
3. Performance was an issue with Scalebound. In terms of frame rate, ALL MS branded games has solid frame rate on XBO.
Scalebound has performance problems and it's very late.
Scalebound also appeared to be having some performance issues on Xbox One. Whether these issues affected the PC version that was also planned for release remains a mystery
1-Which mean total shit, because you lemmings supported the camera on xbox 360 and MS just responded to what they thought people wanted,if Kinect would have done badly or poorly on xbox 360,the xbox one would have not turn like it did.
2-The wii U failure is not because people didn't want a tablet,it was because the price was to damn high for what you were getting,also the name wii u was confusing and people actually thought it was a another wii with some add on,example wii board.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
Remember that i told you there is some things you should not argue? this is one.
Phil was involve in how the xbox one turn out,he admit it himself,so your argument trying to save face for him is worthless he was there and he admit it Phil >>>> You.
If he wasn't part he could have say i told Mattrick and others that the xbox one was going the wrong way,but it didn't happen like that,he was there.
Oh and he still is a corporate Yes man,which is why all xbox one exclusives are landing on PC.
3-Framerate wasn't the reason the game got cancel,and they could have fix that using dynamic resolution like Halo 5 does.
And some performance issues isn't the same as the whole game is bad or run bad,Quantum Break has performance issues,and drops to 28FPS that doesn't mean it is unplayable.
We all know what happen and we know MS money starved the development team like they did with several other team in which they cancel games.
1. Kinect sales was built on top of existing Xbox 360 install base. Xbox 360's GPU cost structure wasn't burdened by Kinect!
2. Wii U's failure was a warning and MS followed Nintendo into the cliff. Mattrick paid the price for the failure NOT Spencer. Mattrick has command responsibility while Spencer is a just corporate yes man.
3. Performance was an issue with Scalebound. In terms of frame rate, ALL MS branded games has solid frame rate on XBO.
Scalebound has performance problems and it's very late.
Scalebound also appeared to be having some performance issues on Xbox One. Whether these issues affected the PC version that was also planned for release remains a mystery
1-Which mean total shit, because you lemmings supported the camera on xbox 360 and MS just responded to what they thought people wanted,if Kinect would have done badly or poorly on xbox 360,the xbox one would have not turn like it did.
2-The wii U failure is not because people didn't want a tablet,it was because the price was to damn high for what you were getting,also the name wii u was confusing and people actually thought it was a another wii with some add on,example wii board.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
Remember that i told you there is some things you should not argue? this is one.
Phil was involve in how the xbox one turn out,he admit it himself,so your argument trying to save face for him is worthless he was there and he admit it Phil >>>> You.
If he wasn't part he could have say i told Mattrick and others that the xbox one was going the wrong way,but it didn't happen like that,he was there.
Oh and he still is a corporate Yes man,which is why all xbox one exclusives are landing on PC.
3-Framerate wasn't the reason the game got cancel,and they could have fix that using dynamic resolution like Halo 5 does.
And some performance issues isn't the same as the whole game is bad or run bad,Quantum Break has performance issues,and drops to 28FPS that doesn't mean it is unplayable.
We all know what happen and we know MS money starved the development team like they did with several other team in which they cancel games.
1. Your post is shit. Having a larger Xbox 360 install base (year 2011) benefited Kinect.
Spencer served as general manager of Microsoft Game Studios EMEA, working with Microsoft's European developers and studios such as Lionhead Studios and Rare until 2008, when he became the general manager of Microsoft Studios, eventually becoming the studio's corporate vice president a year later.[2][3] He has participated in Microsoft's E3 conferences since 2010.[4][5][6][7]
In late March 2014, Satya Nadella announced in a corporate e-mail that Spencer was to "lead the Xbox, Xbox Live, Xbox Music and Xbox Video teams, and Microsoft Studios".[3][8]
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Phil Spencer's installation as head of Xbox.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
A proper manager takes over the liabilities from the old administration.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
Phil Spencer: sees no value in new IP's, just cancels them.
Doesn't understand why gamers want 60fps 'who needs it?' he asked in a Gamespot interview.
Thinks single player gaming is dead, later retracted but he spoke his fool thoughts aloud into a microphone and can't take it back.
Gave ALL Xbox 'exclusives' to PC, completely undermining the platform he was hired to promote and develop.
Spent YEARS as Head of Xbox and their first party line-up now no longer exists. Instead he recently defended his role by pointing out BC and 'gaming services' were his big priorities and now after all these years he will think about putting some actual games on his fucking games console.
Thinks the best way to promote AAA MS games (not that they have had any for a million years but it will happen again, presumably) is by giving them away for free with Game Pass so people can pay £1 for a month trial, finish the game then cancel. Genius.
The man is an absolute idiot, i.e. an absolutely PERFECT candidate to be head of a Microsoft division as he has not a fucking clue what the hell he is doing at any given time and now he has run the Xbox division into the ground he has no idea what to do.
Xbot clowns on here will defend him to the death regardless. Why? Beats me, seriously, it really does. For a long time I have been of the opinion that MS pay people like Nyad to spew their pro MS drivel on here, maybe they've got a whole crew?
Because some people rather be miserable than admit they were wrong. So they double down and swarm shit like Sea of Thieves out of starvation.
Spencer served as general manager of Microsoft Game Studios EMEA, working with Microsoft's European developers and studios such as Lionhead Studios and Rare until 2008, when he became the general manager of Microsoft Studios, eventually becoming the studio's corporate vice president a year later.[2][3] He has participated in Microsoft's E3 conferences since 2010.[4][5][6][7]
In late March 2014, Satya Nadella announced in a corporate e-mail that Spencer was to "lead the Xbox, Xbox Live, Xbox Music and Xbox Video teams, and Microsoft Studios".[3][8]
Phil Spencer's installation as head of Xbox.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
A proper manager takes over the liabilities from the old administration.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
Try again.
1-Having a large user base always beneficial doesn't mean great sales are a given.
When Kinect launch the xbox 360 was 5 years old and had 45 million units sold or close,and sold 10 million kinect on 3 months.
When the Eye Toy release for the PS2 the PS2 the PS2 was 3 years old and had more than 60 million units sold,yet the eye toy didn't sell in record numbers,lemmings bought Kinect in record numbers so MS just gave you what lemmings wanted,the same happen with the whole TV image of the xbox one,lemmings once again also watched more movies and music on xbox live than play games,so MS responded accordingly to what people were doing and wanting.
Another example of this is how lemmings are making a big deal out of Backward compatibility,and now MS is focusing on it they just gave you want you people want.
So yeah it is you peoples fault.
2-The wii U motion marketing was an inheration of the wii,the wii U biggest selling point was its tablet and was $350 dollars,it didn't have an HDD and small storage space,with the power of a 360 more or less,by that time you could buy a PS3 and a 360 for far less than $350 with more storage an a hell of allot of more games.
Not to mention it was confusing,to the point were moms were buying wii u games for the actual wii and learning at home that the game wasn't intended for the old wii and require a $350 purchase.
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"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better
NO you walking pancake.
He is not taking responsibility for what others did,in no freaking place he imply that quote him i dare you,he is taking responsibility for his involvement on the xbox one bad decision,my god English is not my native language but i clearly understand what he mean by that,you are either playing stupid as always to not lose an argument,or simple can't grasp the English language.
He was part of the xbox one LEADERSHIP teams he was there.
That would be true is he say he wasn't part of those decision bt would take responsibility for them anyway.
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He was there and you know why you got a TV oriented weak Kinect box?
Because you lemmings watched more movies than play games on xbox live,and because you bought Kinect in record numbers,don't blame Mattrick blame yourself,he just gave you what you lemmings wanted.
Backward Compatibility Could Be Pivotal In Future Xbox Systems, According To Phil Spencer.
Just like Phil Spencer is giving you what you want backward compatibility.
This ^^ would not be happening if lemmings such as yourself were defending and bragging about MS broken BC,now don't cry and accuse Phil of wrong doing when the next xbox have few games and rely more on better looking version of the games you already own.
Scalebound looked like a really cool and unique concept but everytime it was shown at conventions it looked like complete dogshit. Either it was poor management on Microsofts part or platinum just wasn't getting the work done, which somehow I doubt considering they made MGR in a year or so and that turned out great.
People like to hate Don Mattrick but I remember Xbox 360 having games under him. Little dick Phil has been running the show for years with nothing to show except closed studios, cancelled games, and flops
It's a little strange that ms have announced nothing at all for a year. Game pass is not enough to disguise the fact they have no new exclusives. E3 needs to be a success with some exclusive announcements.
@jahnee: This is honestly the most embarrassing thing I've read in some time. I'm actually stressed from cringing so much while reading it in a nerdy virgins nazely voice.
I think it's time to admit ms is the next Sega in terms of success .. the 360 was thier most successful but still got beat just like Sega genesis
Thier first and 3rd are not to great
Hell it sold the least out of the 3. It had a strong start, but starting losing fans after RROD and people started jumping ship. PS3 sold more lifetime than 360.
@jahnee: This is honestly the most embarrassing thing I've read in some time. I'm actually stressed from cringing so much while reading it in a nerdy virgins nazely voice.
People like to hate Don Mattrick but I remember Xbox 360 having games under him. Little dick Phil has been running the show for years with nothing to show except closed studios, cancelled games, and flops
Not exactly a fair comparison. Peter Moore set up Mattrick perfectly with the 360.
Then Mattrick left Phil with the complete shit-storm Xbox One launch and he has had to play catchup ever since.
Spencer served as general manager of Microsoft Game Studios EMEA, working with Microsoft's European developers and studios such as Lionhead Studios and Rare until 2008, when he became the general manager of Microsoft Studios, eventually becoming the studio's corporate vice president a year later.[2][3] He has participated in Microsoft's E3 conferences since 2010.[4][5][6][7]
In late March 2014, Satya Nadella announced in a corporate e-mail that Spencer was to "lead the Xbox, Xbox Live, Xbox Music and Xbox Video teams, and Microsoft Studios".[3][8]
Phil Spencer's installation as head of Xbox.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
A proper manager takes over the liabilities from the old administration.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
Try again.
1-Having a large user base always beneficial doesn't mean great sales are a given.
When Kinect launch the xbox 360 was 5 years old and had 45 million units sold or close,and sold 10 million kinect on 3 months.
When the Eye Toy release for the PS2 the PS2 the PS2 was 3 years old and had more than 60 million units sold,yet the eye toy didn't sell in record numbers,lemmings bought Kinect in record numbers so MS just gave you what lemmings wanted,the same happen with the whole TV image of the xbox one,lemmings once again also watched more movies and music on xbox live than play games,so MS responded accordingly to what people were doing and wanting.
Another example of this is how lemmings are making a big deal out of Backward compatibility,and now MS is focusing on it they just gave you want you people want.
So yeah it is you peoples fault.
2-The wii U motion marketing was an inheration of the wii,the wii U biggest selling point was its tablet and was $350 dollars,it didn't have an HDD and small storage space,with the power of a 360 more or less,by that time you could buy a PS3 and a 360 for far less than $350 with more storage an a hell of allot of more games.
Not to mention it was confusing,to the point were moms were buying wii u games for the actual wii and learning at home that the game wasn't intended for the old wii and require a $350 purchase.
3-
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better
NO you walking pancake.
He is not taking responsibility for what others did,in no freaking place he imply that quote him i dare you,he is taking responsibility for his involvement on the xbox one bad decision,my god English is not my native language but i clearly understand what he mean by that,you are either playing stupid as always to not lose an argument,or simple can't grasp the English language.
He was part of the xbox one LEADERSHIP teams he was there.
That would be true is he say he wasn't part of those decision bt would take responsibility for them anyway.
He was there and you know why you got a TV oriented weak Kinect box?
Because you lemmings watched more movies than play games on xbox live,and because you bought Kinect in record numbers,don't blame Mattrick blame yourself,he just gave you what you lemmings wanted.
Backward Compatibility Could Be Pivotal In Future Xbox Systems, According To Phil Spencer.
Just like Phil Spencer is giving you what you want backward compatibility.
This ^^ would not be happening if lemmings such as yourself were defending and bragging about MS broken BC,now don't cry and accuse Phil of wrong doing when the next xbox have few games and rely more on better looking version of the games you already own.
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
"I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."
Your partial quote doesn't have the full context.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
People like to hate Don Mattrick but I remember Xbox 360 having games under him. Little dick Phil has been running the show for years with nothing to show except closed studios, cancelled games, and flops
Not exactly a fair comparison. Peter Moore set up Mattrick perfectly with the 360.
Then Mattrick left Phil with the complete shit-storm Xbox One launch and he has had to play catchup ever since.
Exactly. It's a dumb comparison (not that I'm surprised, after reading his post).
@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:
@ronvalencia said:
1. Your post is shit. Having a larger Xbox 360 install base (year 2011) benefited Kinect.
Spencer served as general manager of Microsoft Game Studios EMEA, working with Microsoft's European developers and studios such as Lionhead Studios and Rare until 2008, when he became the general manager of Microsoft Studios, eventually becoming the studio's corporate vice president a year later.[2][3] He has participated in Microsoft's E3 conferences since 2010.[4][5][6][7]
In late March 2014, Satya Nadella announced in a corporate e-mail that Spencer was to "lead the Xbox, Xbox Live, Xbox Music and Xbox Video teams, and Microsoft Studios".[3][8]
Phil Spencer's installation as head of Xbox.
Phil Spencer
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
A proper manager takes over the liabilities from the old administration.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
Try again.
1-Having a large user base always beneficial doesn't mean great sales are a given.
When Kinect launch the xbox 360 was 5 years old and had 45 million units sold or close,and sold 10 million kinect on 3 months.
When the Eye Toy release for the PS2 the PS2 the PS2 was 3 years old and had more than 60 million units sold,yet the eye toy didn't sell in record numbers,lemmings bought Kinect in record numbers so MS just gave you what lemmings wanted,the same happen with the whole TV image of the xbox one,lemmings once again also watched more movies and music on xbox live than play games,so MS responded accordingly to what people were doing and wanting.
Another example of this is how lemmings are making a big deal out of Backward compatibility,and now MS is focusing on it they just gave you want you people want.
So yeah it is you peoples fault.
2-The wii U motion marketing was an inheration of the wii,the wii U biggest selling point was its tablet and was $350 dollars,it didn't have an HDD and small storage space,with the power of a 360 more or less,by that time you could buy a PS3 and a 360 for far less than $350 with more storage an a hell of allot of more games.
Not to mention it was confusing,to the point were moms were buying wii u games for the actual wii and learning at home that the game wasn't intended for the old wii and require a $350 purchase.
3-
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better
NO you walking pancake.
He is not taking responsibility for what others did,in no freaking place he imply that quote him i dare you,he is taking responsibility for his involvement on the xbox one bad decision,my god English is not my native language but i clearly understand what he mean by that,you are either playing stupid as always to not lose an argument,or simple can't grasp the English language.
He was part of the xbox one LEADERSHIP teams he was there.
That would be true is he say he wasn't part of those decision bt would take responsibility for them anyway.
He was there and you know why you got a TV oriented weak Kinect box?
Because you lemmings watched more movies than play games on xbox live,and because you bought Kinect in record numbers,don't blame Mattrick blame yourself,he just gave you what you lemmings wanted.
Backward Compatibility Could Be Pivotal In Future Xbox Systems, According To Phil Spencer.
Just like Phil Spencer is giving you what you want backward compatibility.
This ^^ would not be happening if lemmings such as yourself were defending and bragging about MS broken BC,now don't cry and accuse Phil of wrong doing when the next xbox have few games and rely more on better looking version of the games you already own.
"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
"I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."
Your partial quote doesn't have the full context.
Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.
A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.
Try again.
Don't waste your time with these cows... even if you post facts, they'll believe what they want.
But the fact is, if you look at where Xbox was in 2013, compared to now, I think Phil & Co have done a very good job resurrecting the brand. It was in a horrible place after the XB1 reveal/launch fiasco.
And if you have a look at the big picture (and not through cow spectacles), and look at what services/features the Xbox ecosystem now offers (including hardware, like XB1 X & elite controller etc) , it's a pretty competitive package. And once they bolster their 1st/2nd party output, which they are supposedly doing, things will be looking mighty good for Xbox.
And you cows better hope that Sony doesn't get complacent like they tend to do, because the main advantage they have nowadays is their 1st/2nd party output (especially if you like 3rd person action/adventure games). And maybe Japanese dev support (although this isn't as important to the mainstream). Pretty much everything else, you could arguably say that Xbox's offering is equal to, if not better.
Phil Spencer: sees no value in new IP's, just cancels them.
Doesn't understand why gamers want 60fps 'who needs it?' he asked in a Gamespot interview.
Thinks single player gaming is dead, later retracted but he spoke his fool thoughts aloud into a microphone and can't take it back.
Gave ALL Xbox 'exclusives' to PC, completely undermining the platform he was hired to promote and develop.
Spent YEARS as Head of Xbox and their first party line-up now no longer exists. Instead he recently defended his role by pointing out BC and 'gaming services' were his big priorities and now after all these years he will think about putting some actual games on his fucking games console.
Thinks the best way to promote AAA MS games (not that they have had any for a million years but it will happen again, presumably) is by giving them away for free with Game Pass so people can pay £1 for a month trial, finish the game then cancel. Genius.
The man is an absolute idiot, i.e. an absolutely PERFECT candidate to be head of a Microsoft division as he has not a fucking clue what the hell he is doing at any given time and now he has run the Xbox division into the ground he has no idea what to do.
Xbot clowns on here will defend him to the death regardless. Why? Beats me, seriously, it really does. For a long time I have been of the opinion that MS pay people like Nyad to spew their pro MS drivel on here, maybe they've got a whole crew?
Because some people rather be miserable than admit they were wrong. So they double down and swarm shit like Sea of Thieves out of starvation.
According to NPD Mach 2018, Sea of Thieves' sales is under Far Cry 5. Your post is shit.
Look at some of these filthy lemmings talking about how MS has money to spend and the size of their war chest etc etc..
So where is all this money well spent? Cause all I see are flops and more Halo and Forza and it's been over 16 years since MS entered the market.
So wait, are lemmings going to say "it takes time to build things" again??
LMAO! Pathetic
TLHBO.
The first bolded is due to Don Mattrick the rest of the Xbox team.. They focused on multiplats and television. It makes sense at first glace since most Xbox 360 owners watched television on their system and multiplats sold the most. However they forgot a few things. One: Multiplats sell the most on Xbox and Playstation systems, but the exclusives give people a reason to buy the console. Each exclusive has a different fanbase, so the more you have the better. The fanbase for Forza and Halo are different from the fanbase for Gears of War and Fable. Still, they may share the same multiplats they like in common along with bro gamers. Two: they stopped getting exclusives for a while, so they only played multiplats and watched television as a result. After a while, I mostly used the Wii for Netflix since no new games came out at that point. Of course I played a few games again like Wii Play, Twilight Princess, and Brawl. Other than that, Internet and Netflix.
The last bolded is correct. They're going to have to do like Sony did during the PS3 era. Fund a bunch of exclusives and then keep the ones that do well and make their mark. In other words, throw a bunch of shit on the wall and hope something sticks. It takes years to make big budget games and even longer to fund a bunch of them that'll stay around. It'll be embarrassing like Sea of Thieves, but it'll help them next gen when they finally secure a great and popular exclusive.
@ronvalencia: How does that disprove what I said? You're starved enough to buy a terrible multiplayer game that wouldn't have been worth it for free. Since NPD is based on revenue now, Xbox fans can get any shitty game on Game Pass and purchase enough in-game content to have it chart on NPD.
@ronvalencia: How does that disprove what I said? You're starved enough to buy a terrible multiplayer game that wouldn't have been worth it for free. Since NPD is based on revenue now, Xbox fans can get any shitty game on Game Pass and purchase enough in-game content to have it chart on NPD.
"Terrible multiplayer" is an assertion, hence debatable. NPD March 2018 shows good sales results for Sea of Thieves
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