Is it time to admit that Phil Spencer is a con man?

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#101  Edited By ronvalencia
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@BassMan said:

I think Phil has done some good things. Play Anywhere is huge as it allows people to play games the way they want. I have no interest in playing games on console. I only care about the games and not the shit hardware that limits them. The biggest issue is there was not a steady investment in MS published titles. There has been a void to fill compared to last gen and MS is in the uncomfortable position of waiting until their next round of titles are finished. It has been poor planning overall as they should have invested in enough studios and spread out releases so that if games get cancelled, you have others to pick up the slack.

XBox One is more or less Microsoft's Surface game box. It's better for MS to play it's A game by leveraging their main strength i.e. its time to be the "old school" Microsoft again with strong competitors like Google and Apple.

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@archerynut4l said:

OP you have made some good points. Yes it’s been long enough to show something besides a 4K console. My feeling is that this years E3 is a make it or beak it for them. And honestly I don’t think they have talented studios that can make worthwhile SP games. They’re primarily a co-op / multiplayer game company. Where as Sony is and has been a more SP game company. Spencer can talk all he wants about wanting to make games like Horizon and others. But you need the talent and quite honestly they don’t have it. Recore, quantum break, for example were flops compared to Sony’s line, hell even third party SP games are better. Thankfully I’m a two console owner. But yeah if they don’t show something this year I’m putting the 1x in the closet till they decide to actually be a game dev. and not a service company.

Good post and agreed.

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#103 NathanDrakeSwag
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Yep. He's had his chances. Remedy and Insomniac are very talented studios yet under MS this gen they both make their weakest games critically and commercially (Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive). Platinum Games makes very highly rated games like Nier Automata and Bayonetta 2 yet their Xbox exclusive Scalebound was canned. Sea of Thieves was in development for over 4 years and ended up being a piece of trash rated even lower than NMS. Recore flopped. Ryse flopped. Even Halo 5 and Gears 4 are by far the lowest rated games in their series.

It's telling when the only games fanboys can point to are 2D indie titles Cuckhead and Ori as the reasons to buy a $500 Xbone X.

I remember the days when Xbox was actually a respectable dudebro console. Now its some weird Nintendo-lite trash.

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#104 SecretPolice
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@jahnee said:
@SecretPolice said:

"Is it time to admit that Phil Spencer is da man?"

You bet he is. :P

Cows be withdrawing all their previous arguments against the Xbone of the last 4 years and are taking shelter back in their movie game exclusive fortress.

Now, the Mighty X-MonsterBox One hit K.O. X is haunting their nightmares all thanks to the unsung hero of console gaming. Cows will disagree and that's fine. Because they have to chase him. Because he's the hero Console gaming deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so they'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, he's is...

Now this post delivers.

:P

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#105 robert_sparkes
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Phil spencer must look at the PS4 with envy with some of the exclusive line up of games.

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#106 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Wait you are blaming Phil Spencer for games not being critically acclaimed or successfully? What?

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#107 tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Phil-Spencer-Xbox-One-Former-DRM-I-Going-Take-Responsibility-Decisions-67999.html

Full quote for full context

"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.

"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.

"I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."

Your partial quote doesn't have the full context.

Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.

A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.

Try again.

I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.

1-Here he claims that he see people on twitter and other places calling him out as some one who was on a leadership table when the bad decisions were made.

2-He admit that is true that he was on a leadership position on the table when those decisions were made, he doesn't imply he clearly admits to be part of those decisions.

3-In no place he blame the decisions on others.

"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved.

1-He is clearly saying here that he doesn't deny his involvement and that he didn't try to distance its self from his role.

2-He continue confirm that he was part of it on e3 as well,and that he wasn't trying to create a false history to so that he look better.

Hes was there and was part of those decisions,just because you bold what you like doesn't mean the rest is not valid.

There is no change phase he simply ends by taking responsibility for hes decision good of bad,and since you can't quote him saying that ""It wasn't his idea of that he wasn't there"" you have nothing.

Stop been a dishonest poster,there are some arguments you can't win this is one.

So don't try again you already loss.

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#108  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:

@ronvalencia said:

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Phil-Spencer-Xbox-One-Former-DRM-I-Going-Take-Responsibility-Decisions-67999.html

Full quote for full context

"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.

"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.

"I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."

Your partial quote doesn't have the full context.

Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.

A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.

Try again.

I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.

1-Here he claims that he see people on twitter and other places calling him out as some one who was on a leadership table when the bad decisions were made.

2-He admit that is true that he was on a leadership position on the table when those decisions were made, he doesn't imply he clearly admits to be part of those decisions.

3-In no place he blame the decisions on others.

"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved.

1-He is clearly saying here that he doesn't deny his involvement and that he didn't try to distance its self from his role.

2-He continue confirm that he was part of it on e3 as well,and that he wasn't trying to create a false history to so that he look better.

Hes was there and was part of those decisions,just because you bold what you like doesn't mean the rest is not valid.

There is no change phase he simply ends by taking responsibility for hes decision good of bad,and since you can't quote him saying that ""It wasn't his idea of that he wasn't there"" you have nothing.

Stop been a dishonest poster,there are some arguments you can't win this is one.

So don't try again you already loss.

Too bad for you, you partly quoted Phil and didn't quote the entire text.

Full quote for full context

"I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.

"I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.

"I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."

Your partial quote doesn't have the full context.

Notice change phase in "I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions". That's a change from not being responsible to responsible for those decisions.

A business's liabilities are inherited (i.e. "going to take") from one administration to another administration until business corporate entity is dissolved.

The facts: Microsoft kept Phil Spencer while pushed the other guy out.

Try again.

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#109 henrythefifth
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You should blame yourselves, and not Phil.

Reason those people focus on shit, is because you fanboys happily accept the shit.

If you refused to play old games on your Xbone, MS would have no choice but to develop new games for Xbone.

But since you happily play those old gen games, MS thinks they are doing what you want. So they focus on old gen.

Its all your fault, you fanboys. Get a grip.