Is Just Cause 2 better than GTAIV?

From what I've played and seen so far, it sure seems like it.

The PC version, at least.

i've had more fun with the demo than i ever did with GTAIV....so yea i guess it would be for me...lol

From the way it looks Just Cause 2 has what GTA is supposed to have. Free play (do whatever) replay value. GTA IV unlike past gta's (III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City and Vice City Stories) focused so much on story this time that they didn't add anything to wreak havoc in the city afterwards.

But I'm thinkin the next GTA will have a much better balance of seriousness in the story (This is the first GTA game I know where my friends all actually finished it) and more free roam features as in the past.

Also I think the driving in GTA IV is over exaggerated a bit. It's more realistic than any other GTA. But in IV I can take a turn and loose control at (what feels like 30 mph) When in real life I take the turn by my house (90 degrees) at 20-30 miles per hour, and Still have to pull my e-brake to slide...ON SNOW... It's not a bad direction I don't think, I just think it needs tightened up a bit. ok done ranting now.

The graphics and size seem better, but it looks to have more flaws. From what I've played on my buddy's copy, the story and voice acting are horrendous compared to the near Oscar worthy acting in GTA IV. Just as well, the mechanics don't feel fully polished while the missions can be occasionally frustrating, not to mention the less alive feel of the world.

Overall, I'd say GTA IV beats it out in most aspects and I personally enjoyed it more.

I haven't played Just Cause 2 but I doubt it. I'm sure there will be many people that like it more, but I doubt it'll be as much a quality product as GTAIV. A more high octane playground/=/a better game. Also, it sounds like the story is lackluster and the shooting aspect sounds broken.

In terms of variety and fun, I think it is. In terms of story, of course not. The former is actually more important to me for a game in this genre.

The graphics and size seem better, but it looks to have more flaws. From what I've played on my buddy's copy, the story and voice acting are horrendous compared to the near Oscar worthy acting in GTA IV. Just as well, the mechanics don't feel fully polished while the missions can be occasionally frustrating, not to mention the less alive feel of the world.

Overall, I'd say GTA IV beats it out in most aspects and I personally enjoyed it more.

SPYDER0416

The graphics seem technically better, but I think that the artistry of GTAIV's visuals makes Just Cause look quite generic and by-the-numbers.

I'm not sure how much I would like JC2 because I'm not the type of gamer who likes to just play around in theenvironments. I like doing the story missions the most andI'm not sure how good the story missions are. Somebody who has played the game will have to tell me.Ever since I started playing GTA, while my friends would just go around causing havok, I'd be doing the story missions.

It may be more FUN to the individual, but GTAIV is obviously the better game.navyguy21

Logic fail.

To the guy above me who said he likes story missions and not screwing around with the environment, you probably wouldn't like JC2.

From the way it looks Just Cause 2 has what GTA is supposed to have. Free play (do whatever) replay value. GTA IV unlike past gta's (III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City and Vice City Stories) focused so much on story this time that they didn't add anything to wreak havoc in the city afterwards.

But I'm thinkin the next GTA will have a much better balance of seriousness in the story (This is the first GTA game I know where my friends all actually finished it) and more free roam features as in the past.

Also I think the driving in GTA IV is over exaggerated a bit. It's more realistic than any other GTA. But in IV I can take a turn and loose control at (what feels like 30 mph) When in real life I take the turn by my house (90 degrees) at 20-30 miles per hour, and Still have to pull my e-brake to slide...ON SNOW... It's not a bad direction I don't think, I just think it needs tightened up a bit. ok done ranting now.

MrJack3690

I'm a Pittsburgher too! GO PENS!

I'm a Pittsburgher too! GO PENS!

JonSnow777

Hells yeah!!

The Demo is more fun than GTA4... GTA4 was seriously the biggest let down of the generation for me so far. its was, well... boring.

i've had more fun with the demo than i ever did with GTAIV....so yea i guess it would be for me...lol

CDUB316

no...lol the gameplay is garbage. the story sucks too....the fun factor is subjective

I like everything about the gameplay direction of Just Cause 2 more ('sploding stuff is much more fun for a quick play than the crime drama stuff in GTAIV) but it's extremely lacking in polish. I also hate the auto-aim getting in the way of my ridiculous kill methods some times. I like Just Cause 2 more than Grand Theft Auto IV, but I can definitely understand somebody thinking Just Cause 2 is garbage.

Not even close. GTA4 about two tiers above JC2.

Well, I'm currently waiting for them to ship a motherboard replacement for my PC so that I can replace it. Until then, idk. I did try the demo on ps3 though and enjoyed it. I'm expecting far superior visuals on PC and much better controls (as usual due to KB/Mouse). Based on the demo I'd say yes though. There's just so much to do in JC2. I did beat GTAIV on PC as well and enjoyed that. The over the topness of JC2 is just perfect though.

I got bored with GTAIV :( The writing was alright, but the story dragged on too much and the constant calls from the cousin guy made me want to break things. On top of that, there wasn't really anything to do in the game outside of missions. I really can't for the life of me figure out what made everybody like it so much.

GTAIV is in a totally different league. There is a reason why one got a perfect 10 while the other barely achieved AA.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]It may be more FUN to the individual, but GTAIV is obviously the better game.JonSnow777

Logic fail.

To the guy above me who said he likes story missions and not screwing around with the environment, you probably wouldn't like JC2.

2 different games to compare. Both over great experiences. If you're asking which 1 is more fun then it becomes a matter of opinion.

From the way it looks Just Cause 2 has what GTA is supposed to have. Free play (do whatever) replay value. GTA IV unlike past gta's (III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City and Vice City Stories) focused so much on story this time that they didn't add anything to wreak havoc in the city afterwards.

But I'm thinkin the next GTA will have a much better balance of seriousness in the story (This is the first GTA game I know where my friends all actually finished it) and more free roam features as in the past.

Also I think the driving in GTA IV is over exaggerated a bit. It's more realistic than any other GTA. But in IV I can take a turn and loose control at (what feels like 30 mph) When in real life I take the turn by my house (90 degrees) at 20-30 miles per hour, and Still have to pull my e-brake to slide...ON SNOW... It's not a bad direction I don't think, I just think it needs tightened up a bit. ok done ranting now.

MrJack3690

I got bored with GTAIV :( The writing was alright, but the story dragged on too much and the constant calls from the cousin guy made me want to break things. On top of that, there wasn't really anything to do in the game outside of missions. I really can't for the life of me figure out what made everybody like it so much.

JonSnow777

Well, GTAIV is my favorite game of the generation, so I'll tell you what I loved about it.

• I thought the writing was fantastic. The dialogue was just extremely interesting. And the story itself went above and beyond what I expect from a GTA game or a game in general.
• I thought the characters were extremely well done, especially Mr. Faustin who was so intense that he had me on the edge of my seat.
• I loved the graphics and art style. The recreation of LC was stunning and set the bar for living breathing environments. It has yet to be outdone in that aspect IMO. The city is the biggest star of the game. It is much like Rapture in that it is one of the great gaming environments of all time.
• Targeting, while not perfect, was legitimately and very noticably improved. The shootout missions were fantastic: Three Leaf Clover, Deconstruction For Beginners, To Live and Die in Alderney, The Snow Storm, Hostile Negotiation, Tunnel of Death,Museum Piece, etc. There were just so many stunning shootout missions, leading me to believe that R* had so much confidence in the new targeting system that they felt they could lean further in that direction. The shootout missions slaughter those of the same type in previous games. The cover system completely changes the way one plays GTA and it's for the better IMO.
• I know that some people don't like the feel of the driving, but I liked it. It made chases more tense IMO.
• I liked that flawed design choices of previous games were fixed. A good example being the random cop chase system in previous games. It's beyond me why a focused cop chase system wasn't there from the beginning. In the previous games, sometimes losing the police felt like pure luck. The new system may be a bit easy on 1 and 2 star wanted levels, but it is super tense when one gets to 3 stars.
• No terrible RPG elements. They were so out of place in San Andreas. There's no reason why a game like GTA needs stats. That doesn't even make sense. It's like they forgot what kind of game they were making. To this day, I sincerely don't understand R*'s rationale in including them.
• I thought the missions were just designed better than previous offerings. The elements of frustration were cut down and it seemed like the missions were much more "focused".

I loved the demo more than anything from GTAIV.

Why does GS keep mashing my words together?

Having played both, i am enjoying Just Cause 2 alot more than GTAIV.djsifer01

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]It may be more FUN to the individual, but GTAIV is obviously the better game.navyguy21

Logic fail.

To the guy above me who said he likes story missions and not screwing around with the environment, you probably wouldn't like JC2.

Because you're saying that a game that is more fun to "the individual (whatever that's supposed to mean)" is obviously worse than a game that is less fun (I'm assuming also to "the individual").

Even though they're in the same genre, they take totally different directions. It's really hard to compare the two.mo0ksi

How is it hard to compare a game, any game, based on how fun it is? Things don't have to be alike in order to compare them. Cake >> Tofu.... are they at all alike? NO.... can you compare them? YES

Just Cause is a video game, GTAIV is a video game... you can compare them. It wouldnt even matter if they weren't in the same genre. Watch....

Halo3 is more fun than MGSIV.... see, it's easy.

Anyway... on topic, Yes Just Cause 2 is more fun than GTAIV.... the same lvl of presentation surely isnt there, but its way, WAY more fun.

story wise? GTA IV slaughters it. But Just cause 2 is a much better sandbox game. You can honestly buy this game and ignore the story completly and spend countless hours on it. Thats what i missed from GTA IV. The story was great, but when i wanted to just mess around it was very limited.

GTAIV is in a totally different league. There is a reason why one got a perfect 10 while the other barely achieved AA.

BURSTIIIFIRE

I've played the game. I can't fathom what that reason is.

High production values, yes. Um, things were very shiny in the game? I don't know. I can't see anything other than the high production values. I don't think the story was good. It was passable for an action plot. The characters were all hyperbolic, which seemed out of place in the serious tone that the rest of the story seemed to be trying to create. Plus, it was sort of boring. Not a lot to do. Sorry, gets a 7 from me, and that's only because of the fun I had with the multiplayer after forcing myself through the story.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

Logic fail.

To the guy above me who said he likes story missions and not screwing around with the environment, you probably wouldn't like JC2.

JonSnow777

Because you're saying that a game that is more fun to "the individual (whatever that's supposed to mean" is obviously worse than a game that is less fun (I'm assuming also to "the individual").

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

GTAIV is in a totally different league. There is a reason why one got a perfect 10 while the other barely achieved AA.

JonSnow777

I've played the game. I can't fathom what that reason is.

High production values, yes. Um, things were very shiny in the game? I don't know. I can't see anything other than the high production values. I don't think the story was good. It was passable for an action plot. The characters were all hyperbolic, which seemed out of place in the serious tone that the rest of the story seemed to be trying to create. Plus, it was sort of boring. Not a lot to do. Sorry, gets a 7 from me, and that's only because of the fun I had with the multiplayer after forcing myself through the story.

Read the reviews. They explain themselves perfectly. I respect the score you give it (though I disagree with it; I would give the game a 9.75) but don't pretend that they gave it a 10 for no reason.

Maybe funner but not better. GTA IV has WAY higher production values. For example, the story and voice acting in GTA IV crush JC2's.SparkyProtocol

I know what you're trying to say.... but read what you posted again.

Now... what is the purpose of a game? To have fun, right? So to gauge how good a game is, don't we have to say that the game which is more fun, is the better game?

WHen you break down a game, take it apart, and judge it.... presentation, story, voice acting.... its all important.... but it all takes a back seat to 1 thing..... IS IT FUN TO PLAY?

I enjoy high production values in my entertainment... but I play whats the most fun.... I don't pick up a game, and say.... "well, this game sucks... oh but, Denzel Washington did a voice over..... I'm getting it."

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, please explain to me (and the rest of system wars) how my logic fails :Pnavyguy21

Because you're saying that a game that is more fun to "the individual (whatever that's supposed to mean" is obviously worse than a game that is less fun (I'm assuming also to "the individual").

you need to rethink things.

Okay, look. For me, JC2 is the better game. Hell, I also think that Saints Row 2 is a better game than GTAIV. I'm sorry that I tried to convince everybody else of this too. But the fact is that I don't think GTAIV is very good. I think it's a shiny package with disappointing contents. I've read the reviews, I hyped myself to high heaven before its release, I played through the story and I played the multiplayer. It just wasn't fun. So here's the rundown: For me, it is simple fact that GTAIV isn't great. It is also simple fact that I enjoy Just Cause 2 and Saints Row 2 more than I enjoyed GTAIV.

Okay. That's all I can say.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Maybe funner but not better. GTA IV has WAY higher production values. For example, the story and voice acting in GTA IV crush JC2's.moistsandwich

I know what you're trying to say.... but read what you posted again.

Now... what is the purpose of a game? To have fun, right? So to gauge how good a game is, don't we have to say that the game which is more fun, is the better game?

WHen you break down a game, take it apart, and judge it.... presentation, story, voice acting.... its all important.... but it all takes a back seat to 1 thing..... IS IT FUN TO PLAY?

I enjoy high production values in my entertainment... but I play whats the most fun.... I don't pick up a game, and say.... "well, this game sucks... oh but, Denzel Washington did a voice over..... I'm getting it."

Now... what is the purpose of a game? To have fun, right? So to gauge how good a game is, don't we have to say that the game which is more fun, is the better game?moistsandwich

That's not neccesarily true though. One can have fun with something they still think is pretty lackluster.

For example, Time Crisis 4+a lightgun is fun IMO. But I still see TC4 as a mediocre game. Sonic Unleashed is fun IMO. But I still think it's rather lackluster as an entire package.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Maybe funner but not better. GTA IV has WAY higher production values. For example, the story and voice acting in GTA IV crush JC2's.moistsandwich

I know what you're trying to say.... but read what you posted again.

Now... what is the purpose of a game? To have fun, right? So to gauge how good a game is, don't we have to say that the game which is more fun, is the better game?

WHen you break down a game, take it apart, and judge it.... presentation, story, voice acting.... its all important.... but it all takes a back seat to 1 thing..... IS IT FUN TO PLAY?

I enjoy high production values in my entertainment... but I play whats the most fun.... I don't pick up a game, and say.... "well, this game sucks... oh but, Denzel Washington did a voice over..... I'm getting it."

Okay, look. For me, JC2 is the better game. Hell, I also think that Saints Row 2 is a better game than GTAIV. I'm sorry that I tried to convince everybody else of this too. But the fact is that I don't think GTAIV is very good. I think it's a shiny package with disappointing contents. I've read the reviews, I hyped myself to high heaven before its release, I played through the story and I played the multiplayer. It just wasn't fun. So here's the rundown: For me, it is simple fact that GTAIV isn't great. It is also simple fact that I enjoy Just Cause 2 and Saints Row 2 more than I enjoyed GTAIV.

Okay. That's all I can say.

JonSnow777

I'm not trying to force you to think it's a great game. I'm just saying that the reviewers had very well-explained reasons for why they gave the game a 10.

No, but JC2 is fun though its like a Uncharted GTA Gears of war Mercenaries hybrid but never better than GTA