Is Mass Effect 2 the perfect example of epic movie experience in a game?

[QUOTE="robobie"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] In most cases I would say, to each there own... but in this case, yes, im going to say that not liking Mass Effect 2 is treding on freak of nature territory.MangaJ

WOW. Humanity sure does disappoint when a person is label a freak of nature for disliking a game.

I know, right?! I mean, what does it say about us as a species when people can hate on a game as brilliant as Mass Effect 2?!!

It's says that we have freedom of speech. It's a pity you couldn't use yours a little better.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="robobie"]

So no one's allowed to actually dislike the game without being a freak of nature?

robobie

WOW. Humanity sure does disappoint when a person is label a freak of nature for disliking a game.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"]

not even by a long shot,mgs and uncharted are far more like a movie experience than this game....reason why uncharted has won what? almost every single game of the year and best console game? me has won best...rpg? thats all it is a nice generic playing rpg.

Revan_911

Just a quick observation in this thread.

It seems that when discussing Uncharted 2 or similar games, it gets criticized for not doing something new or different. I find that intersting since Heavy Rain just came out and it was being butchered for having a different form of gameplay and story telling. What happened to heavy rain being an interactive movie? Why isn't this game being discussed here?

[QUOTE="robobie"]

[QUOTE="MangaJ"]

The 26 people who have voted that this game stinks are either A) lying about having played it, or B) Freaks of nature with ridiculously terrible taste and haters of all things wonderful. Those are the only two realistic options.

TheEroica

So no one's allowed to actually dislike the game without being a freak of nature?

I haven't played it but if it's anything like ME1, it won't blow me away. I might not hate it but my guess is I'll have an "eh." feeling of it. People can dislike the game. Not everyone likes WRPG's and a generic storyline or space games.

Most cinematic game ever made. Hands down. ME2 eat your heart out.

IT HAD CHRISTOPHER WALKEN! And Jimmy walker, and John Rhys davey!

Just a quick observation in this thread.

It seems that when discussing Uncharted 2 or similar games, it gets criticized for not doing something new or different. I find that intersting since Heavy Rain just came out and it was being butchered for having a different form of gameplay and story telling. What happened to heavy rain being an interactive movie? Why isn't this game being discussed here?

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

Just a quick observation in this thread.

It seems that when discussing Uncharted 2 or similar games, it gets criticized for not doing something new or different. I find that intersting since Heavy Rain just came out and it was being butchered for having a different form of gameplay and story telling. What happened to heavy rain being an interactive movie? Why isn't this game being discussed here?

Ilikemyname420

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="robobie"]

So no one's allowed to actually dislike the game without being a freak of nature?

Pixel-Pirate

I haven't played it but if it's anything like ME1, it won't blow me away. I might not hate it but my guess is I'll have an "eh." feeling of it. People can dislike the game. Not everyone likes WRPG's and a generic storyline or space games.

Heavy Rain anyone????

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"] now kotor was a good game,far beyond this,as for the cinematic experience,MGS4 ending alone destroys this game....all the endings in this game were dull in comparison.Zero_epyon

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

well if i were to judge games based on movie-quality experience i'd have to judge them on their writing too

MGS4 had great motion capture and decent voice acting (apart from old snake) but lacked good writing or good dialogue and most of the characters were unchanging archetypes

just to compare: Mass Effect 1 was too stiff in its animations, it had good voice acting and good writing and changing characters but also didn't have the fluidity of a movie experience in that many conversations could be awkward and the pacing sometimes could be a little trepid with a lot of the game spent inquiring about backstory via conversations

all of that is fixed in ME2, combined with really great voice acting, good writing, good motion capture, really interesting characters with depth and you've got a great example of an epic movie experience in a game

so sure, great example

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]The ending for MGS4 was a 90 minute cutscene that is as long as the average movie. How the heck is that interactive? I was asking about games that are interactive and give the feeling of a epic movie experience and you mention a 90 minute cgi cutscene. Where is the gameplay in that 90 minute ending?sSubZerOo

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]The ending for MGS4 was a 90 minute cutscene that is as long as the average movie. How the heck is that interactive? I was asking about games that are interactive and give the feeling of a epic movie experience and you mention a 90 minute cgi cutscene. Where is the gameplay in that 90 minute ending?sSubZerOo

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]The ending for MGS4 was a 90 minute cutscene that is as long as the average movie. How the heck is that interactive? I was asking about games that are interactive and give the feeling of a epic movie experience and you mention a 90 minute cgi cutscene. Where is the gameplay in that 90 minute ending?sSubZerOo

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

Kojima is basically a movie maker who refuses to work in movies and instead wants to make games. I never understood why since he really seems to struggle at the game aspect of games.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] MGS4 ending was neither 90 mins long nor cgi. Statements like these hurt the argument here.Pixel-Pirate

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

Kojima is basically a movie maker who refuses to work in movies and instead wants to make games. I never understood why since he really seems to struggle at the game aspect of games.

MGS4, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain got it beat. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

MGS4 ending was neither 90 mins long nor cgi. Statements like these hurt the argument here.Zero_epyon

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

Kojima is basically a movie maker who refuses to work in movies and instead wants to make games. I never understood why since he really seems to struggle at the game aspect of games.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]MGS4, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain got it beat. blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]MGS4, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain got it beat. Bread_or_Decide

Cmon TC give us more poll options.

Well imo Mass Effect 2 had a pretty good story,but the story moves a bit to slowly and somewhat predictable.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]MGS4, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain got it beat. Bread_or_Decide

I agree but no play,no opinion,

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]MGS4, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain got it beat. Bread_or_Decide

Kojima still can't beat Sega CD!

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

.. It was a extremely long cut scene, maybe not 90 minutes but it sure as hell felt like a hour.. MGS4 is a prime example on what developers should not do.. I would forgive them if it were not for the fact that gameplay and cutscenes seemed to be on a completely 50:50 basis.. And yet again moving the camera around pressing a button for a flash back is not interactive.. Interactive suggests that you have a say in how the cutscene plays out.. And clearly that is not the case.. i don't see how you can defend that what so ever..

Zero_epyon

Kojima is basically a movie maker who refuses to work in movies and instead wants to make games. I never understood why since he really seems to struggle at the game aspect of games.

So he's a lazy movie maker?

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Kojima is basically a movie maker who refuses to work in movies and instead wants to make games. I never understood why since he really seems to struggle at the game aspect of games.

Pixel-Pirate

So he's a lazy movie maker?