Is Microsoft panicking?

The irony is Sony as a whole out of the big three have been in panic mode since the early 2000s. A market capitalization of $100 billion all the way down to 18 billion is not good signs...

Uhh, I'd be perfectly fine with MS focusing on Windows and their mobile division as well. You probably don't follow me, closely, so it's a forgivable mistake.

I'm not calling you a fanboy or MS-hater, but some of you guys are kinda misinformed. A company the size of MS is not panicking about their gaming division which isn't even their main sales.

And trust me you don't want none of the three to drop out of the console market...

Let's be clear. Yes, Microsoft A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y did PANICK, that is why they made XBox in the first place. They were scared that consoles would be seen as a legitimate replacement to the personal computer. This is a matter of note, not conjecture.

Meanwhile, Apple got the jump on them in the smart phone and tablet market because they were busy chasing Sony-then-Nintendo's pot o' gold in consoles. Forest for the trees, people. But, by all means, call for the OP's head on a platter. Way to take the high road.

Why would losing XBox be any more devastating to consoles than losing Sega, Atari, TurboGrafx, 3DO, CD-i, or any other brand? Gaming has always gotten better when the weakest link breaks. @blessedbyhorus

@Shewgenja said:

Let's be clear. Yes, Microsoft A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y did PANICK, that is why they made XBox in the first place. They were scared that consoles would be seen as a legitimate replacement to the personal computer. This is a matter of note, not conjecture.

Meanwhile, Apple got the jump on them in the smart phone and tablet market because they were busy chasing Sony-then-Nintendo's pot o' gold in consoles. Forest for the trees, people. But, by all means, call for the OP's head on a platter. Way to take the high road.

Please tell me you're joking! Please oh god someone tell me if this guy is joking!? Consoles replacing personal computers!???????? O_o Did that just randomly fly out your head?

No MS jumped in the console market because they wanted to EXPAND, take over the livingroom, but more importantly chase the money Sony was making. What the heck are you getting your sources from?? this is widely known.

As for tablet and smart phone, Google/Android is dominating them both. Plus MS always made sucky phones, but as far as tablets go from what I've been reading MS and its Surface seems to be almost going neck and neck with the Ipad. But in the end tablet sales are declining...

OP got freaking OWNED in this topic numerous times

fantastic read, gr8 thread

Well, if the NX were to be successful it would negatively affect XBox Japanese support for sure. That's a huge "if" though.

@Shewgenja said:

Let's be clear. Yes, Microsoft A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y did PANICK, that is why they made XBox in the first place. They were scared that consoles would be seen as a legitimate replacement to the personal computer. This is a matter of note, not conjecture.

Meanwhile, Apple got the jump on them in the smart phone and tablet market because they were busy chasing Sony-then-Nintendo's pot o' gold in consoles. Forest for the trees, people. But, by all means, call for the OP's head on a platter. Way to take the high road.

Why would losing XBox be any more devastating to consoles than losing Sega, Atari, TurboGrafx, 3DO, CD-i, or any other brand? Gaming has always gotten better when the weakest link breaks. @blessedbyhorus

Evidence to prove that claim.

@silversix_: you know this how exactly . Are you thinking for everybody else

@raugutcon said:

@Shewgenja said:

Let's be clear. Yes, Microsoft A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y did PANICK, that is why they made XBox in the first place. They were scared that consoles would be seen as a legitimate replacement to the personal computer. This is a matter of note, not conjecture.

Meanwhile, Apple got the jump on them in the smart phone and tablet market because they were busy chasing Sony-then-Nintendo's pot o' gold in consoles. Forest for the trees, people. But, by all means, call for the OP's head on a platter. Way to take the high road.

Why would losing XBox be any more devastating to consoles than losing Sega, Atari, TurboGrafx, 3DO, CD-i, or any other brand? Gaming has always gotten better when the weakest link breaks. @blessedbyhorus

Evidence to prove that claim.

I'll add @blessedbyhorus to this as well, since, once again he has underestimated me.

It doesn't get more authoritative than this. The threat was very real to MS that the PC would be marginalized by the console. Of course, history shows us that the mobile device was the real trojan horse.

@Shewgenja:

Time frame?

The paranoia was so real.

Where in the video do they say they panicked and built the Xbox because they were afraid of PC being replaced? I heard they built Xbox to fight with Sony for control of the living room. I didn't watch the entire video so where in it do they say that?

@kingtito:

Still waiting for him...

Only lems can spend three generations bitching about Sony's promises and then pretend it never happened while demanding proof despite having a video dialed to the second and minute where the three chairs of the XBox business talk about the paranoia that drove the creation of XBox.

**** me running you guys like to run in circles. What's impressive is how you do it with your heads in the sand.

MS itself?? no, but their gaming division?? Very very likely for sure!

+1 mace of truth.

I imagine MS is questioning what the point of the xbox division is. The thing is a money pit, and any hope of using their console as a trojan horse to 'own the living room' has all but evaporated in the wake of smart TVs and the like.

There's also the bigger company outside of Xbox, which doesn't make money the same way it used to. At one point it was looking for the next money pit just to find something to invest in. Now they have a productive outlet in mobile devices and tablets.

That's the operative question right now. The threat from consoles never came to pass, and MS got broad-sided by smart phones and tablets instead. They've dunked billions on making a console while PC and PC-gaming have grown, even despite MS completely mishandling their own internal studios and getting a smaller piece of that pie than before. Windows Mobile has been utterly hamfisted and a non-factor, while Apple became the largest company in the world.

XBox has been a failed experiment. That's objectively speaking. The paranoia that gave rise to its creation left MS too invested and focused on the wrong areas where they really needed to be. Irregardless of the "console war" with Nintendo and Sony, in terms of Microsoft's own direction in technology, the XBox has held them back and done nothing to expand the business in a meaningful way (when compared to the amount of time and money invested).

Even though MS gets a whole lot of shit in System Wars for doing it, I think they are doing the right thing trying to trickle back into the PC-gaming space. A real case could be made that if they spent the billions of dollars they have on XBox on Windows Mobile or even Zune, instead, they'd have a better market presence than what they do now. At the end of the day, that's what should really matter to them. After all, as the lemmings on this board are quite oft to point out to any and everyone, this is a business at the end of the day.

Theu both are panicing especially w Sony rereleasing a ps4 w more power lol I said it when they went w the 10 yr plan Nintendo had an advantage

It's called leap frog

Another Amazon Wars thread.

Guess OP ain't coming back after getting wrecked in this thread.

Only time will tell. But, I predict Microsoft throwing in the towel on Xbox as a whole. They will exit the home console market eventually and release all Xbox exclusive games to the PC platform. They'd make more money doing that instead of supporting a console which is loosing money.