Is Modnations the Mario Kart killer?

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#1 The_Cygan
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It seems that Modnations is better in every way.

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#2 ogvampire
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has any game ever killed another game?

seriously... i always here this but i dont remember it ever happening

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#3 Grawse
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Not sure, but the PS3 does have it's own kart racer now.

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#4 The_Cygan
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Not sure, but the PS3 does have it's own kart racer now.

Grawse

Also for the psp

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#5 ShadowriverUB
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Don't think so, Wii numbers are more powerful

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#6 ActicEdge
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:lol: lol no. Having a great Kart Racer does not some how make another one dead. That's hilarious. But seriously, no, not at all :|

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#7 psyko0815
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Nothing will ever kill Mario Kart... sorry... you fail.

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#8 Vari3ty
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No because Mario killed Modnation before it ever came out. :P

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#9 mD-
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It won't kill Mario Kart in sales, but it in my eyes, it already killed it in gameplay and it will probably kill it on it's online play/overall replay value with the kart and track creation.

I've played the MNR demo, sonic all star racing, and mario kart wii back to back. So far the only thing that Mario Kart Wii has for it is it's battle mode (which wasn't good for Mario Kart Wii anyways. It had so much more potential), it's music, and it's characters/environments. Speaking of music, you can put your own custom soundtrack into the game. Basically the game will allow you to play w/e you're playing on your XMB bar.

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There hasn't been a good Mario Kart game in a long time. It's dead all on it's own. Modnation racers is doing what Nintendo should've done.
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#11 Grawse
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Not sure, but the PS3 does have it's own kart racer now.

The_Cygan

Also for the psp

lol PSP.

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#12 Totalgym9000
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Modnation is a really great game, apart from the load times :( im luving the game so far though, online is a blast
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#13 hellhund
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Unless I can use a Wii Wheel, I'm not interested.

Wii Wheel + beer = buckets of fun with friends

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#14 DraugenCP
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There hasn't been a good Mario Kart game in a long time. It's dead all on it's own. Modnation racers is doing what Nintendo should've done.EmperorSupreme

I'd say the latest 2 Mario Kart games are the best yet.

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#15 Thunderdrone
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How many "Mario Kart killers" have come and gone so far?
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#16 DraugenCP
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How many "Mario Kart killers" have come and gone so far?Thunderdrone

About as many as Halo killers probably.

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#17 Rahnyc4
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mario kart is still the king of kart racing and will be even after modracing series is dead and gone. i look at the sales of mario kart wii and im still blown away. i also have to throw in that nintendo didn't even put there best effort into the wii version, seem to me like it was a experiential thing.
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#18 thom_maytees
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If Modnation does not generate the sales and appeal of Mario Kart, it could not be called a "Mario Kart Killer."

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#19 Rahnyc4
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If Modnation does not generate the sales and appeal of Mario Kart, it could not be called a "Mario Kart Killer."

thom_maytees

thats seriously asking too much of modnation. sales alone wont be achieved, since mario kart is one of the top 10 highest selling games this gen. keep in mind this game still has legs.

oh yeah wasnt forza motor spots was suppose to be a grand turismo killer? lol what happen there.

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#20 Totalgym9000
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Did call of duty kill off Halo? im sure there is room for 2 good kart racing games, since there seem to be room for about 50 FPS games.
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#21 Rahnyc4
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Did call of duty kill off Halo? im sure there is room for 2 good kart racing games, since there seem to be room for about 50 FPS games.Totalgym9000
multi-platform game... it didnt kill off halo, if you count it as a single platform game on the xbox.
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#22 mD-
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Just because doesn't kill mario kart in sales doesn't mean it can't be a better game. Anyways, this thread is going to be entertaining once more and more MK fanboys come in.

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to. I guess that means that no kart racers should be ever made anymore because it won't sell like mario kart and mario kart is the original one right :roll:

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#23 Thunderdrone
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We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

mD-

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

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#24 funsohng
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It's gotta be awesome enough to do a backflip on its own twice before putting the disc into ps3, then buy me some pizzas while getting me a girlfriend to even match the awesomeness of the first Mario Kart.
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#25 DraugenCP
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I actually think this is the first gen since the SNES days that Mario Kart wasn't surpassed by a competitor. Mario Kart 64 was surpassed in every way by Diddy Kong Racing, and Crash Team Racing was a better game as well. I also think Double Dash was inferior to Crash Nitro Kart, although I seem to be one of the few. Mario Kart Wii really seems to have gotten its act together with tons of content, addicting gameplay, and a great online mode. Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing was a great game, but it just wasn't as interesting as MKW. I've put about 430 hours into MKW so far, and 45 hours into Sonic Racing (which is still a lot).

I haven't yet played Modnation Racers but I'm glad Sony gamers finally have their own karting game for the first time since Crash Team Racing.

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#26 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

Thunderdrone

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

I think it pushes gaming itself rather than a specific genre. You can give a game a deep level editor, but if the game mechanics suck, it will do nothing to elevate the genre.

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#27 Mario1331
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and everybody thought i was crazy for saying this was going to happen in another thread.

seriously MDR isnt a killer of anything its a solid game just leave it at that.

Everything sony makes is suppose to kill something else and never does, its really tedious hearing this.

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#28 Mario1331
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There hasn't been a good Mario Kart game in a long time. It's dead all on it's own. Modnation racers is doing what Nintendo should've done.EmperorSupreme

They should have made LBP on wheels?and not a great MK in a long time there havent been that many made in MKDS owns all kart racers sales,and scores sorry.

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]There hasn't been a good Mario Kart game in a long time. It's dead all on it's own. Modnation racers is doing what Nintendo should've done.Mario1331

They should have made LBP on wheels?and not a great MK in a long time there havent been that many made in MKDS owns all kart racers sales,and scores sorry.

Sorry but modnation isn't lbp on wheels :lol:... though MKDS is truely awesome.

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#30 markop2003
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Mario kart has mario in the name so no, the only way you could kill it is with another mario kart game
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#31 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]There hasn't been a good Mario Kart game in a long time. It's dead all on it's own. Modnation racers is doing what Nintendo should've done.lbjkurono23

They should have made LBP on wheels?and not a great MK in a long time there havent been that many made in MKDS owns all kart racers sales,and scores sorry.

Sorry but modnation isn't lbp on wheels :lol:... though MKDS is truely awesome.

it was highly influenced by the success of LBP seriously why else would they add a track editor its been done many times before, to ride the success of LBP its smart but why should nintendo do that when they already have something else thats more successful?...

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#32 gulfo
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hell nooo, nothing can kill a blue shell, are you crazy?

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#33 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

They should have made LBP on wheels?and not a great MK in a long time there havent been that many made in MKDS owns all kart racers sales,and scores sorry.

Mario1331

Sorry but modnation isn't lbp on wheels :lol:... though MKDS is truely awesome.

it was highly influenced by the success of LBP seriously why else would they add a track editor its been done many times before, to ride the success of LBP its smart but why should nintendo do that when they already have something else thats more successful?...

So a level editor makes it lbp on wheels :roll: yeah right... the art style , graphics and the characters look completely different. and who said anything about nintendo needing to copy sony?

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#34 Crazyguy105
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No.


The gameplay isn't nearly as fun as Mario Kart and the items should be a little crazier. That or just easier to use.

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#35 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

Thunderdrone

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

Lol,I couldn't help but laugh. There is nothing genre pushing about MNR I agree. It may be good but a track editor is not genre pushing. But alas, just as we have "MK" fanboys (who have atleast played the full games), our MNR fans seem to feel that its a "game changer", based off a demo and a comparison to MKWii. It is indeed funny.

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#36 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

Sorry but modnation isn't lbp on wheels :lol:... though MKDS is truely awesome.

lbjkurono23

it was highly influenced by the success of LBP seriously why else would they add a track editor its been done many times before, to ride the success of LBP its smart but why should nintendo do that when they already have something else thats more successful?...

So a level editor makes it lbp on wheels :roll: yeah right... the art style , graphics and the characters look completely different. and who said anything about nintendo needing to copy sony?

lol did you not read the poster before me?he stated sony is doing something nintendo should have done way before and i addressed his comment.

secont the art style graphics is not that much different then LBP and arent sony's motto "connect/play/share" or something like that which started with LBP.

This is not a fresh idea from Sony they made a kart racer that was heavily influenced by LBP which is obvious. does it bother me?not at all LBP is an excellent game.

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#37 HavocV3
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nothing can kill Mario Kart 64.

me so sorry:(

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#38 mD-
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

DraugenCP

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

I think it pushes gaming itself rather than a specific genre. You can give a game a deep level editor, but if the game mechanics suck, it will do nothing to elevate the genre.

I hope you're not suggesting the game mechanics in MNR suck...
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#39 mD-
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nothing can kill Mario Kart 64.

me so sorry:(

HavocV3
Well, considering the fact that Mario Kart Wii has already outsold Mario Kart 64, I'm assuming you mean that no one can beat Mario Kart 64 in terms of a quality kart racing game. Well, Diddy Kong Racing has already surpassed MK 64
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#40 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

it was highly influenced by the success of LBP seriously why else would they add a track editor its been done many times before, to ride the success of LBP its smart but why should nintendo do that when they already have something else thats more successful?...

Mario1331

So a level editor makes it lbp on wheels :roll: yeah right... the art style , graphics and the characters look completely different. and who said anything about nintendo needing to copy sony?

lol did you not read the poster before me?he stated sony is doing something nintendo should have done way before and i addressed his comment.

secont the art style graphics is not that much different then LBP and arent sony's motto "connect/play/share" or something like that which started with LBP.

This is not a fresh idea from Sony they made a kart racer that was heavily influenced by LBP which is obvious. does it bother me?not at all LBP is an excellent game.

Then I apologize I thought you were referring to me :P... the connect play share is a genre they're trying to push.

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#41 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

mD-

I think it pushes gaming itself rather than a specific genre. You can give a game a deep level editor, but if the game mechanics suck, it will do nothing to elevate the genre.

I hope you're not suggesting the game mechanics in MNR suck...

I'm not, as I haven't played it. I was merely saying that, for it to be genre changing, just having a level editor won't suffice.

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#42 the-wii-gamer
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I don't see why the 2 games can't live in harmony.If you like ModNation that's just fine. I personally think that the two shouldn't be compared due to the fact that one is geared towards user-generation than MarioKart's pre-made tracks.Just play the games you like and move on.

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#43 mD-
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No.


The gameplay isn't nearly as fun as Mario Kart and the items should be a little crazier. That or just easier to use.

Crazyguy105

I know people have their own opinion, but I like it when people actually state why the gameplay isn't as good. I feel that while MNR lacks variety in the weapons, it makes up for it in it's strategic nature. If you do all the things you are suppose to do when racing like drifting and doing tricks, you can constantly have a boost available and shield to block those blue shell like attacks. Also, I feel that the drifting is a lot better and the high speed of the game makes it a lot more fun. When I played Mario Kart Wii a little while ago, I felt like a snail at 150cc and the drifting doesn't even feel right. In addition, it felt lame that I couldn't side-swipe opponents that tried to get close to me like in MNR. The game also looks better and feel much more chaotic when you're racing in a group of CPUs.

Imagine how it will be online.

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#44 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] So a level editor makes it lbp on wheels :roll: yeah right... the art style , graphics and the characters look completely different. and who said anything about nintendo needing to copy sony?

lbjkurono23

lol did you not read the poster before me?he stated sony is doing something nintendo should have done way before and i addressed his comment.

secont the art style graphics is not that much different then LBP and arent sony's motto "connect/play/share" or something like that which started with LBP.

This is not a fresh idea from Sony they made a kart racer that was heavily influenced by LBP which is obvious. does it bother me?not at all LBP is an excellent game.

Then I apologize I thought you were referring to me :P... the connect play share is a genre they're trying to push.

its cool and yea i want to see more of this genre im completely interested how MNR turn out since i enjoyed the beta

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#45 tmntPunchout
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MKwii is awesome still so I doubt it.
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#46 italygamer
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Crash Team Racing was the real deal

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#47 mD-
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

Thunderdrone

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

There hasn't even been a kart racing game this ambitious...
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#48 WiiMan21
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Mario Kart is in its own League.

Though ModNation Racers is getting there.

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#49 mushi799
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probably gave it a black eye, but not killed.

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#50 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]

We get a kart racer that actually pushes the genre and it still gets compared to a game that it shouldn't even be compared to.

mD-

Its amazing how, lately, the secret to "genre pushing" game design is so simple. Apparently throwng in a level editor does the trick.

I mean, look at Little Big Planet, it clearly pushed the platforming genre into the future.

There hasn't even been a kart racing game this ambitious...

except at it's core it's not pushing the genre forward. It's level editor/community features are certainly new and those deserve props as far as kart racing games are concerned. But the core gameplay you know the stuff that is going to dictate how good the game is or isn't. Yeah that's not anything new or pushing the genre forward. It's fun no doubt, but it plays like a Mario Kart clone(not that it should be considered a ad thing, it plays fine for the most part).