Is Nintendo's bubble popping? They may be in big trouble.

According to this article, Nintendo's overall sales have been down and their stocks have been plummeting. Their former CEO and largest shareholder apparently just lost half a billion dollars from Nintendo's stock being drastically downgraded in value, and it's probably a result of the 3DS's premature price slashing. Nintendo's stock also took a noticeable dive after the announcement of Wii-U, which probably means investors have not been impressed with it.

Nintendo is still riding high on the fumes of the Wii and DS's success, but it would appear that good things don't last forever. Some people might argue that Nintendo was so eager to continue to re-capture that success next gen that they just added a 3 to the DS and a U to the Wii and thought they'd be set, and while that may be an oversimplification, I do think that represents the attitude they have towards the next batch of consoles. The 3DS is the DS trying to be Jimbo Cameron's Avatar, and the Wii-U is the Wii trying to be an iPad.

Nintendo's history is full of ups and downs, but it would be pretty shocking if after making one of the most successful consoles of all time Nintendo dipped right back into hardships. We won't know what fate has in store for the Wii-U until it releases, but given the lukewarm reaction to the 3DS I can't help but wonder if Nintendo's "blue ocean" has been fished-out.

their fine, 3ds will pick up with the sales. everyone seems to think nintendo is going to end up like sega nowadays.

I have a feeling that god awful looking controller is going to turn many away.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I have a feeling that god awful looking controller is going to turn many away.funsohng

Nintendo will be fine. Do i like what they are doing...no, but they will be fine. They lived thru the virtual boy & thats basically as bad as it can get. They also lived thru the lackluster sales of the N64 & GC. They made up for it with the Wii & DS.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]I have a feeling that god awful looking controller is going to turn many away.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="funsohng"] I lived through three generations of Dual Shock, I think I can easily handle Wii U controller.lordlors

their fine, 3ds will pick up with the sales. everyone seems to think nintendo is going to end up like sega nowadays.

lostfan132

Also, at least unlike Sega, Nintendo does not have an evil Microsoft spy running the company into the dirt-- I'm looking at you, Bernie Stolar!

yep and Nintendo is taking this issue very seriously now with the salary cuts, price cuts, advertisment push, etc. It's better to realize the problem sooner than later

Cripes, how many "Nintendo is doomed" threads are we going to have? They'll be fine, it's a small misfire.

Nintendo've been round longer than all our grandfathers, they're a very business savvy company. They've survived worse than this before, this is nothing, it's just a miscalculation of the market on their part, and they've already responded very well. Don't worry, Nintendo's casual high may be ending but the company itself will emerge stronger than ever before.charizard1605

You know, it almost seems like this excites you.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo've been round longer than all our grandfathers, they're a very business savvy company. They've survived worse than this before, this is nothing, it's just a miscalculation of the market on their part, and they've already responded very well. Don't worry, Nintendo's casual high may be ending but the company itself will emerge stronger than ever before.Timstuff

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo've been round longer than all our grandfathers, they're a very business savvy company. They've survived worse than this before, this is nothing, it's just a miscalculation of the market on their part, and they've already responded very well. Don't worry, Nintendo's casual high may be ending but the company itself will emerge stronger than ever before.nintendoboy16

You know, it almost seems like this excites you.

hakanakumono

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You know, it almost seems like this excites you.

Timstuff

It just seems like you've been pretty intense on the anti-nintendo stuff recently.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You know, it almost seems like this excites you.

hakanakumono

It just seems like you've been pretty intense on the anti-nintendo stuff recently.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I grew up with Nintendo, why would I want them to go out of business? That's like hoping Disney stops making animation.Timstuff

It just seems like you've been pretty intense on the anti-nintendo stuff recently.

Capcom is pretty bad lately ...

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo've been round longer than all our grandfathers, they're a very business savvy company. They've survived worse than this before, this is nothing, it's just a miscalculation of the market on their part, and they've already responded very well. Don't worry, Nintendo's casual high may be ending but the company itself will emerge stronger than ever before.Timstuff

if nintendo goes third party then they will still dominate with their games on a sony and microsoft console.then just looking at the top 30 of the highest selling games you will see mainly nintendo games so the consoles will feel like a nintendo console nontheless,even if it isnt.8)

lets say if capcom were to disappear as in they went out of business.what would happen to all their franchises.would they be sold or what?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]Nintendo has been around for over a century, but they only started making video games about 30 years ago, and back then they weren't even making game consoles. They have changed business strategies many times in the past to stay profitable, and it could happen again. They've done everything from making playing cards to running no-tell motels, and while game consoles have been a big success for them, Nintendo will still exist if they have to stop making them.

Timstuff

It's best that we don't have another Sega situation with Nintendo. If they do go third party, I'd quit buying their games and move somewhere else, because it would be just too painful with that. It wasn't that bad when Sega went software only (despite Sonic's bad state with critics and fans before Sonic Colors, but even then the gaming community is still being the same with that franchise), but with Nintendo, it would be much worse.

Their success can't last forever.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Moving from the gaming business is better for Nintendo than making games for Sony/Microsoft consoles, I can tell you that much.nintendoboy16

It's best that we don't have another Sega situation with Nintendo. If they do go third party, I'd quit buying their games and move somewhere else, because it would be just too painful with that. It wasn't that bad when Sega went software only (despite Sonic's bad state with critics and fans before Sonic Colors, but even then the gaming community is still being the same with that franchise), but with Nintendo, it would be much worse.

I'd love Nintendo to go 3rd party right now. I think the'd actually start to put effort into there games again, well Mario galaxies were amazing, but the rest :?

I wonder how the wii games Nintendo made would had sold on 360 or ps3?

Cripes, how many "Nintendo is doomed" threads are we going to have? They'll be fine, it's a small misfire.

nintendoboy16

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Why? Do you think their games aren't good enough to compete with other multiplatform games, or is it a matter of pride?

Timstuff

It's best that we don't have another Sega situation with Nintendo. If they do go third party, I'd quit buying their games and move somewhere else, because it would be just too painful with that. It wasn't that bad when Sega went software only (despite Sonic's bad state with critics and fans before Sonic Colors, but even then the gaming community is still being the same with that franchise), but with Nintendo, it would be much worse.

No, Nintendo just realized that they couldn't just ride on the DS name and Wii name for sales.

So Nintendo took the blame for trying to do such a stunt and is trying to fix it. They're giving Exsiting users 20 free games and dropping their own saleries for this mistake.

I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped the WiiU name and renamed it something else.

I'd love Nintendo to go 3rd party right now. I think the'd actually start to put effort into there games again, well Mario galaxies were amazing, but the rest :?

I wonder how the wii games Nintendo made would had sold on 360 or ps3?

sailor232

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]They would lose their reputation as developers, since they would need to develop for more than one platform. Nintendo always makes it with their IPs so they would work on Nintendo platforms only. Not only that, but Nintendo's reception has gone Sonic level of bad in terms of pleasing the gaming community (no matter what they do, good or bad).

It's best that we don't have another Sega situation with Nintendo. If they do go third party, I'd quit buying their games and move somewhere else, because it would be just too painful with that. It wasn't that bad when Sega went software only (despite Sonic's bad state with critics and fans before Sonic Colors, but even then the gaming community is still being the same with that franchise), but with Nintendo, it would be much worse.

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]They would lose their reputation as developers, since they would need to develop for more than one platform. Nintendo always makes it with their IPs so they would work on Nintendo platforms only. Not only that, but Nintendo's reception has gone Sonic level of bad in terms of pleasing the gaming community (no matter what they do, good or bad).

It's best that we don't have another Sega situation with Nintendo. If they do go third party, I'd quit buying their games and move somewhere else, because it would be just too painful with that. It wasn't that bad when Sega went software only (despite Sonic's bad state with critics and fans before Sonic Colors, but even then the gaming community is still being the same with that franchise), but with Nintendo, it would be much worse.

nintendoboy16

I'm pretty sure Sonic gets far more hate than Nintendo ever does.

I mean, if there was a "do you like Sonic thread" anywhere, there would be many people who would say how crappy Sonic has gotten, with very few people defending it.

Have a "do you like Nintendo thread", I'm sure around half the people in it would be okay with them atleast, depending on the forum, I suppose.

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]No matter what Nintendo is going to be criticized. They can't simply be expected to roll over and die if they can't make game consoles anymore, and I think they would be very competitive even as a third party developer. You might quit buying Nintendo's games if they went third party out of pride, but many people who grew up playing Nintendo games but left their systems would start buying their games again so it's kind of a moot effect.Timstuff

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Not everyone who grew up with Nintendo buys their products and like I said, the fact that Nintendo gets bashed by the gaming community (Sonic level) makes it better that Nintendo is better off not being in gaming anymore.

nintendoboy16

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Then what should Nintendo do if they aren't going to make games? What is the point of being a Nintendo fan if say, they went into manufacturing exercise equipment? You are not the first person I've seen who has a "I'd rather see Nintendo disappear than play their games on one of their competitors' systems," but really it all boils down to fanboyism. You don't want to accept the possibility that Nintendo may no longer be good enough at making game systems to keep making them, and you would feel "betrayed" if "the enemy" gets Nintendo's games.

Timstuff

Wow! It's way to earlier to predict the doom of Ninty after a price drop. They know what they are doing maybe and they will attempt to fix the 3DS's current situation.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I play other systems, it's just that there is a good chance that Nintendo won't be that good as a third party (which Atari and Sega proved, even though the latter is still trying and doing well). I'd just stop with Nintendo's games and focus on other gaming companies if that happens.

nintendoboy16

Do you decide a game did not deserve to get its good reviews before, or after you have played it? Because it seems like if you're going to say "This new Nintendo game for the PS4 and Xbox 720 has lots of good reviews, but I am not going to try it, because it's a bad game and the reviews are all wrong," then that's just being a spiteful fanboy.

Wow! It's way to earlier to predict the doom of Ninty after a price drop. They know what they are doing maybe and they will attempt to fix the 3DS's current situation.

super600

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]How can you make a pre-determined statement like that though, without even seeing a review for one of their hypothetical multiplatform games? If their first multiplatform game won a bunch of Game of the Year awards and had a 95% on Metacritic, would you still not buy it out of principle?

Timstuff

Do you decide a game did not deserve to get its good reviews before, or after you have played it? Because it seems like if you're going to say "This new Nintendo game for the PS4 and Xbox 720 has lots of good reviews, but I am not going to try it, because it's a bad game and the reviews are all wrong," then that's just being a spiteful fanboy.

Weren't you one of those who said Nintendo isn't as good as they were back then?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I have a feeling that god awful looking controller is going to turn many away.funsohng

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Wow! It's way to earlier to predict the doom of Ninty after a price drop. They know what they are doing maybe and they will attempt to fix the 3DS's current situation.

Timstuff

Still I suggest that people shouldn't be saying the 3Ds is doomed untilmore games come out for it.

Hah. If that would be the case, what would be left for gaming?
They're the leaders in most of the ways that count. From level design to sound, to understanding what people like and how to make something desireable.
If it's them who have to crawl for the others, then I don't see what's left for gaming. It would go downhill fast.
I rather see them disappear too, because the others don't deserve their games at all.

I have a feeling that god awful looking controller is going to turn many away.millerlight89

its basically a tablet that has controls on either side, I cant imagine holding it for all that long before it gets uncomfortable

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I'd love Nintendo to go 3rd party right now. I think the'd actually start to put effort into there games again, well Mario galaxies were amazing, but the rest :?

I wonder how the wii games Nintendo made would had sold on 360 or ps3?

nintendoboy16

Well yeah, look at Mario kart wii, wii sports, wii music,fit etc, NSMB, Mario party. These are games that could easily be made on GC, in fact NSMB is a ds game with added 4 player.

I'm saying that if they made games for the other consoles then they couldnt do this, they'd have to put more effort into them or ratchet,LBP, the move and Kinect games will outshine them.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="sailor232"]

I'd love Nintendo to go 3rd party right now. I think the'd actually start to put effort into there games again, well Mario galaxies were amazing, but the rest :?

I wonder how the wii games Nintendo made would had sold on 360 or ps3?

sailor232

Well yeah, look at Mario kart wii, wii sports, wii music,fit etc, NSMB, Mario party. These are games that could easily be made on GC, in fact NSMB is a ds game with added 4 player.

I'm saying that if they made games for the other consoles then they couldnt do this, they'd have to put more effort into them or ratchet,LBP, the move and Kinect games will outshine them.

And the Wii *insert something here* series? Really? Why did you overlook Metroid Prime 3 and Donkey Kong Country Returns? Those alone overshadow that series.

And no, Nintendo going third party still won't make them as good as they are/were (even though Sega is still doing pretty good, despite a rough patch with their blue hedgehog that gets just as bad as reception as Nintendo does nowadays)

You know, it almost seems like this excites you.

hakanakumono

Im very excided :lol: