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#1 Tommy8930
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iam planning on building a gaming rig is it worth it and is the pc gaming still strong or no

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#2 Yandere
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Matters what games you like, anyways just because something isn't big doesn't mean it's dead/dying.

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#3 CDUB316
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it still has it's strong user base and those people will always game on the PC

but now a days it's very hard for newcomers to choose the PC over consoles

veteran PC will always play PC, but newcomers are more likely to choose console

that's just how i see it

so no, it's not dying....it's just not growing

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When you see Diablo3 and Starcraft2 coming on console then you can consider PC gaming dying.
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#5 lazzordude
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its still going strong. people have said it's "dying" for the longest time, and it continuously gets a bigger userbase.

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#6 treedoor
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I'm pretty certain it's the most rapidly expanding market, though not everyone within the PC gaming market has a high end rig.

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#7 110million
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Apparantly PC gaming has been dying for about 10 years, but somehow I still get more exclusives on it over consoles, so its strange.
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Its thriving...

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It's alive and well, it's just that digital download systems like Steam sales aren't factored in vgchartz.
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Apparantly PC gaming has been dying for about 10 years, but somehow I still get more exclusives on it over consoles, so its strange. 110million
Yah, pirates have killing PC gaming for decades.
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It's still going very strong. There are a lot of exclusive games (not just from large devs either), plus you get plenty of multiplats.

It's a great system, it just depends on tastes in genres etc.

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#12 adamosmaki
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We are getting ready to bury it

Nahh is doing great actually

Most AE AAE and AAE games this gen alone let the fact that is Backwards compatible up to the early 80's

and is the most profitable platform

Of course if you like platformers and Jrpg's better stick with consoles

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Apparantly PC gaming has been dying for about 10 years, but somehow I still get more exclusives on it over consoles, so its strange. 110million
lol very strange indeed...
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Well, I'm currently playing Dawn of War 2 right now, and giving my console a break, so I hope not. In fact I will always game on the PC so long as it remains the only platform that can successfully pull off an RTS game.
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PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

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PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

Mazoch

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

Yandere

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

agreed

i game on the PC for only games like FPS's, RTS's, MMO's

other games just don't feel right to me on the PC

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

Yandere

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

Mazoch

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

adventure? platformers?

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

CDUB316

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

adventure? platformers?

Depends what you mean adventures because on PC adventure games are monkey island, The path , machinarium and that kind of games and they are in abundance on PC. Other than Platformers and Jrpg's pc has games in all genres plus some genres that are only on Pc like city building and simulation games
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

PC Gaming is very strong and the older the consoles get, the stronger the PC's competitive edge will get.

At the end of the day it's more a matter of how you like to play your games. Controller on the coutch or Keyboard + mouse? If you're ok with Keyboard - Mouse the PC is the best gaming experience out there:

- Better overall graphics

- More diverse genres (Strategy games of diffrent froms and MMO's area especially strong on the PC)

- A lot more costumization possible. I some games this dosent matter, in others it will turn a good game into a mindblowingly awesome game (see Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, STALKER, Half-Life2)

- Cheaper games. Most games cost $10 less than console games, that does add up over the years. In addition the PC seems to have a lot more game sales which will offer older but good games for very little.

- Strong indie games scene. When you get tired of the same old, dig into the indie scene for some really creative, surprising and innnovative games.

- Good hardware is cheaper than ever. You can buy graphic cards that will run every game on the market at a solid quality and speed for $100-$150

It's a good time to be a PC Gamer.

Mazoch

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

The PC is strong with Sims, Strategy (besides Tactical RPGs), FPS/TPS, and WRPG (some niche genres)..

It lacks fighting, hack and slash, beat 'em up, Tactical RPGs, (a good amount of racing games), etc.. And even if it doesn't lack in a genre exclusive hungry consoles always get something the PC doesn't.

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To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

Yandere

I disagree. The PC is quite diverse. It has a multitude of games already on consoles, and it possesses many unique games, like Arma 2, or Flight Simulator X.

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#23 Mazoch
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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

CDUB316

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

adventure? platformers?

Good point about platforms, but adventure games is PC all the way. Both in terms of the dozens of classic PC games from Sierra and Lucas Art that still play well today. But the recent series of episodic adventure games like Sam and Max, Talkes from the Mokey Island and others. To be honest adventure games seems to be very rare on the consoles?

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

Mazoch

adventure? platformers?

Good point about platforms, but adventure games is PC all the way. Both in terms of the dozens of classic PC games from Sierra and Lucas Art that still play well today. But the recent series of episodic adventure games like Sam and Max, Talkes from the Mokey Island and others. To be honest adventure games seems to be very rare on the consoles?

umm...have you NEVER played a nintendo console before? they're the kings of adventure games

sam and max and monkey island are adventurous, yes....but more like a point and click adventure....it keeps you on a strict where to go basis...it's not free roam adventure

a pure adventure game is something like shadow of the colossus, zelda, ICO...etc.

IMO

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It's still strong and growing, it's just that consoles are growing faster. But with multiplats being so dominant I would say any system is a safe investment, none will run out of games right away. PC also has the widest exclusive catalogue, but people should realize that it's not all Crysis, exclusives with that kind of production values are expections these days.

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If the platform with the most exclusives is dying; what does that say about the platforms that have to pay to keep hold of their exclusives?

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

CDUB316

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

adventure? platformers?

PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es.
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#28 Mazoch
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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

To be fair, the lack of diversity in genres is a negative about the PC.

Yandere

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

The PC is strong with Sims, Strategy (besides Tactical RPGs), FPS/TPS, and WRPG (some niche genres)..

It lacks fighting, hack and slash, beat 'em up, Tactical RPGs, (a good amount of racing games), etc.. And even if it doesn't lack in a genre exclusive hungry consoles always get something the PC doesn't.

I'm not sure how you define tactical RPG's. My notmal take would be an RPG with turn based combat or a turn base / slow deliberatly paces strategy game with a strong RPG (stats / level) element. Historically has quite a few games in that vein. On the flip side the consoles have almost no RTS's almost no turn based strategy games, no real world building / city building games, very few real trade simulation games, very few empire builders...

As for hack and slash I'm guessing we mean something different here. By hack and slash I'd normally think of action RPG's, kill, loot 'n level type games. Again this is one of the areas where the PC is VERY strong. And while the consoles do get exclusives, so does the PC, actually I belive that the PC get a good deal more exclusives than any of the consoles (though I could be wrong.. I don;t have a list on hand).

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I have bought more games for my PC this year than I have consoles. And I have bought a LOT of games this year.

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

adventure? platformers?

CDUB316

Good point about platforms, but adventure games is PC all the way. Both in terms of the dozens of classic PC games from Sierra and Lucas Art that still play well today. But the recent series of episodic adventure games like Sam and Max, Talkes from the Mokey Island and others. To be honest adventure games seems to be very rare on the consoles?

umm...have you NEVER played a nintendo console before? they're the kings of adventure games

sam and max and monkey island are adventurous, yes....but more like a point and click adventure....it keeps you on a strict where to go basis...it's not free roam adventure

a pure adventure game is something like shadow of the colossus, zelda, ICO...etc.

IMO

Your thinking ACTION adventure, not something like Myst.

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

I don't see that at all. Jrpg's maybe? But aside from that I'm not sure if there's any generes where the PC dosent have a solid selection of games compared to the consoles?

mirgamer

adventure? platformers?

PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es.

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

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Yes it's dying.
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#33 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

Good point about platforms, but adventure games is PC all the way. Both in terms of the dozens of classic PC games from Sierra and Lucas Art that still play well today. But the recent series of episodic adventure games like Sam and Max, Talkes from the Mokey Island and others. To be honest adventure games seems to be very rare on the consoles?

Yandere

umm...have you NEVER played a nintendo console before? they're the kings of adventure games

sam and max and monkey island are adventurous, yes....but more like a point and click adventure....it keeps you on a strict where to go basis...it's not free roam adventure

a pure adventure game is something like shadow of the colossus, zelda, ICO...etc.

IMO

Your thinking ACTION adventure, not something like Myst.

i want games with an enjoyable adventure....idc if i'm slashing some guy, jumping on some fool

i'm talking about adventure in general....action adventure is a form of adventure yes, but it's still adventure

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[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

adventure? platformers?

CDUB316

PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es.

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

And PC folks can list all sorts of games that is on that platform and not on consoles. You are not proving anything, really. P.S I noticed you need to combine titles from all 3 main consoles just to compete with the PC. Thanks for the unintended flattery :) lmao.
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[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

adventure? platformers?

CDUB316

PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es.

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Kameo and Banjo are technically platformers, and not really adventure.

Mario is also a platformer. Zelda tends to mix platformer with action-adventure.

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[QUOTE="mirgamer"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

adventure? platformers?

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PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es.

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

To be honest I'm not sure what you consider adventure game?! Ratchet and Clank? Donkey Kong? Banjo.. as far as I know those are platform games. Just what do you mean when you call something an adventure game?

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Once a PC gamer - always a PC gamer. It's very rare to see someone abandon PC gaming for console gaming once they have tasted the awesome. But on the flip side it's much harder to get into. The PC gamer base is continually growing and IMO is the most mature and intelligent user base of all gaming systems. Try playing COD4 with random people on PC and then playing the same on 360 and you'll see what I mean by maturity levels.
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#38 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"] PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es. mirgamer

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

And PC folks can list all sorts of games that is on that platform and not on consoles. You are not proving anything, really. P.S I noticed you need to combine titles from all 3 main consoles just to compete with the PC. Thanks for the unintended flattery :) lmao.

ummm...and sorry, but i noticed that most of those titles on steam are ALSO on consoles

so no flattery for you my friend

monkey island/sam and max...WIIWARE BABY!!!

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Its a niche market, but it will never truly die as long as games are still made on computers. PC gaming will always exists, buts its market share will continue to decrease and its importance to game developers/publishers will also decrease.

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"] PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es. Mazoch

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

To be honest I'm not sure what you consider adventure game?! Ratchet and Clank? Donkey Kong? Banjo.. as far as I know those are platform games. Just what do you mean when you call something an adventure game?

adventure to me is something with a big and open world...something you go around and collect stuff to get to another area

it might not be your definition, but it's mine

either way...does it matter? PC offers nothing like those games either way, whatever the hell they are

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="mirgamer"] PC Adventure games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Adventure/ PC "Casual" Games : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Casual/ PC Indie Games (that includes all sorts of genres) : http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Indie/ These are just from Steam. I'm not even gonna try listing the ones not on Steam coz I treasure my time very much :D When folks say that PC game library is unbeatable, it really is. One may argue that PC is lacking the big budget titles that have multi-million dollars marketing team backing it but genre diversity?...Not quite. Lets not forget that the PC is also the stronghold of City-Builders, Simulations, MMOs and RTS'es. lundy86_4

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Kameo and Banjo are technically platformers, and not really adventure.

Mario is also a platformer. Zelda tends to mix platformer with action-adventure.

if i'm embarking on an adventure, go to different worlds, meet all kinds of different people....i call it an adventure

platformer yes, but now a days platformers aren't just platformers

you can do so much more in say 3D mario games that you couldn't in 2D mario games....back then platformers were just that, pretty much jumping...but now platformers have evolved beyond just jumping on platforms

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Matters what games you likeYandere
This is the answer.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

CDUB316

Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Kameo and Banjo are technically platformers, and not really adventure.

Mario is also a platformer. Zelda tends to mix platformer with action-adventure.

if i'm embarking on an adventure, go to different worlds, meet all kinds of different people....i call it an adventure

platformer yes, but now a days platformers aren't just platformers

you can do so much more in say 3D mario games that you couldn't in 2D mario games....back then platformers were just that, pretty much jumping...but now platformers have evolved beyond just jumping on platforms

Then aren't the majority of games these days adventure?

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

CDUB316

Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Kameo and Banjo are technically platformers, and not really adventure.

Mario is also a platformer. Zelda tends to mix platformer with action-adventure.

if i'm embarking on an adventure, go to different worlds, meet all kinds of different people....i call it an adventure

platformer yes, but now a days platformers aren't just platformers

you can do so much more in say 3D mario games that you couldn't in 2D mario games....back then platformers were just that, pretty much jumping...but now platformers have evolved beyond just jumping on platforms

Yet, by your loose ruling I can call anything an adventure, be it FPS, RPG, RTS, Action etc, simply if i'm embarking on an "adventure".

Whilst yes, we can have cross genres, such as Zelda being a mix of platform and action/adventure, that's it, they are mixed genres.

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#45 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Kameo and Banjo are technically platformers, and not really adventure.

Mario is also a platformer. Zelda tends to mix platformer with action-adventure.

Yandere

if i'm embarking on an adventure, go to different worlds, meet all kinds of different people....i call it an adventure

platformer yes, but now a days platformers aren't just platformers

you can do so much more in say 3D mario games that you couldn't in 2D mario games....back then platformers were just that, pretty much jumping...but now platformers have evolved beyond just jumping on platforms

Then aren't the majority of games these days adventure?

every game has a story, every game has an adventure

adventure is branched off so many ways...it's hard to really know what to call it

and FPS is a shooter obviously....but at first nobody knew what to call metroid prime....at first it was an FPA...first person ADVENTURE

yea you shot like you did in games like halo, but there was a lot more exploration and not just shooting like in halo....which is why nintendo at first didn't think they should call it an FPS

adventure can be taken many ways...i put it in many different categories....just depends on how much adventure there really is to the story

again...either way, like i said, who cares what it's really called? just saying that the PC offeres nothing like those games, no matter what category you place em in, they're still NOT on PC

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

that did absolutely nothing for me but prove my point

sorry, i'll take a nintendo console for adventures and platformers

hell even 360 and PS3 have great adventure games too....ratchet, jak, sly, SOTC, ICO, kameo, banjo

and then on nintendo you got mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, kirby, star fox ADVENTURES (lmao)

are any of those on PC? didn't think so (and DON'T say the E word)

CDUB316

To be honest I'm not sure what you consider adventure game?! Ratchet and Clank? Donkey Kong? Banjo.. as far as I know those are platform games. Just what do you mean when you call something an adventure game?

adventure to me is something with a big and open world...something you go around and collect stuff to get to another area

it might not be your definition, but it's mine

either way...does it matter? PC offers nothing like those games either way, whatever the hell they are

As already said, I agree the PC has relatively few platformers. As for open worlds, exploring open sandbox areas and PC can more than hold it's own. Aside from Multi plat games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 you got other Bethesda (Especially Morrowind) but also games like STALKER and STALKER Clear Skies. While they are FPS games they also contain a very strong open world and exploration element. Almost all MMO's contain a strong open world element that encourages exploration and gradually unlocking more and more of the world. Heck by your definition GTA is an adventure game.
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#47 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"] To be honest I'm not sure what you consider adventure game?! Ratchet and Clank? Donkey Kong? Banjo.. as far as I know those are platform games. Just what do you mean when you call something an adventure game?

Mazoch

adventure to me is something with a big and open world...something you go around and collect stuff to get to another area

it might not be your definition, but it's mine

either way...does it matter? PC offers nothing like those games either way, whatever the hell they are

As already said, I agree the PC has relatively few platformers. As for open worlds, exploring open sandbox areas and PC can more than hold it's own. Aside from Multi plat games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 you got other Bethesda (Especially Morrowind) but also games like STALKER and STALKER Clear Skies. While they are FPS games they also contain a very strong open world and exploration element. Almost all MMO's contain a strong open world element that encourages exploration and gradually unlocking more and more of the world. Heck by your definition GTA is an adventure game.

GTA is in a way

and heck...even steam (or whatever that website was) classifies it as one....go to the first link that guy posted (was that you?) and go to top sellers or whatever

yep, GTAIV is there...under the adventure games

lmao, sounds like you guys are the ones who doesn't know what adventure really means

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[QUOTE="Mazoch"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

adventure to me is something with a big and open world...something you go around and collect stuff to get to another area

it might not be your definition, but it's mine

either way...does it matter? PC offers nothing like those games either way, whatever the hell they are

CDUB316

As already said, I agree the PC has relatively few platformers. As for open worlds, exploring open sandbox areas and PC can more than hold it's own. Aside from Multi plat games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 you got other Bethesda (Especially Morrowind) but also games like STALKER and STALKER Clear Skies. While they are FPS games they also contain a very strong open world and exploration element. Almost all MMO's contain a strong open world element that encourages exploration and gradually unlocking more and more of the world. Heck by your definition GTA is an adventure game.

GTA is in a way

and heck...even steam classifies in as one....go to the first link that guy posted (was that you?) and go to top sellers or whatever

yep, GTAIV is there...under the adventure games

lmao, sounds like you guys are the ones who doesn't know what adventure really means

The adventure genre isn't classified by if they have a adventure or not, it's by the gameplay.. Like any genre.

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#49 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"] As already said, I agree the PC has relatively few platformers. As for open worlds, exploring open sandbox areas and PC can more than hold it's own. Aside from Multi plat games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 you got other Bethesda (Especially Morrowind) but also games like STALKER and STALKER Clear Skies. While they are FPS games they also contain a very strong open world and exploration element. Almost all MMO's contain a strong open world element that encourages exploration and gradually unlocking more and more of the world. Heck by your definition GTA is an adventure game.Yandere

GTA is in a way

and heck...even steam classifies in as one....go to the first link that guy posted (was that you?) and go to top sellers or whatever

yep, GTAIV is there...under the adventure games

lmao, sounds like you guys are the ones who doesn't know what adventure really means

The adventure genre isn't classified by if they have a adventure or not, it's by the gameplay.. Like any genre.

duh

and platforming is a form of what? you guessed it....GAAAAAAAAAAAAMEPLAY

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No advertising and even less big games coming out, its not very lively.

PC Gaming never recovered from the end of the 'golden age' of gaming as the consoles have.