is pc gaming still big or its dying?

Pc gaming is getting worse by every release of multiplaform game. 9/10 of those pc versions are awfull ports It doesnt worth to build a rig since new games has insanelly high requirements.dakan45

Whenever I see that avatar I know it is going to be some uninformed anti PC comment by a consolite :roll:

Most PC versions of cross platform games are superior to the console versions from the performance advantage alone. Also where is this "insanely high requirements" accusation coming from? Dragon Age is a new game, I'm surprised my brother has it running and looking so well on a 7900GT.

Pc gaming is getting worse by every release of multiplaform game. 9/10 of those pc versions are awfull ports It doesnt worth to build a rig since new games has insanelly high requirements.dakan45

I see 3 statements (accusations) here:

Zero are true and 3 are false.

It's quite sad that all these misconceptions about PC gaming are still out there.

It's still big.

It's not dying, it's just evolving. Instead of big budget exclusive games, you have great amount of awesome indie exclusives like Machinarium, Zeno Clash and Torchlight.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Pc gaming is getting worse by every release of multiplaform game. 9/10 of those pc versions are awfull ports It doesnt worth to build a rig since new games has insanelly high requirements.Arach666

For the most part i am moving to consoles . I went to pc 2 years ago thinking it would be much better. In some ways it was . But over all it was a let down for me. So many games i could not get on consoles. The high end market for pc has been so slow these days. For cross platfrom games i like the pc . plus the an exclusive here and there . the pc has a big list of things that really get under my skin . it would take be a long while to typei t all out .

I just like sitting on my bed playing games . A lot of bs i have had to deal with in hardware , windows and the games them self . THe consoles have put out some really big hitters that the pc just does not compare to . like Mario glaaxy MGS4 and uncharted 2.

Pc gaming is getting worse by every release of multiplaform game. 9/10 of those pc versions are awfull ports It doesnt worth to build a rig since new games has insanelly high requirements.dakan45

What? you do realize we're in a time frame right now where requirements aren't increasing the way they used to. Software is behind hardware at this point.

It's certainly not dying, but console gaming is the heart of the industry.

A slow and painful death.

A slow and painful death.

MerisYaki

Based on?

What people don't realize is that Consoles have ALWAYS been more used/popular. It's always been this way.

That being said, PC gaming is still there and always will be. It seems to be getting more and more niche but it will always be there just as Consoles will always be.

Yes, a Rig is worth it as a PC serves as far more than a gaming platform.

With improved console online that makes playing MP games headache free the PC is not as hot as it use to be. I prefer my 360 over playing on my PC although I did enjoy the Witcher , Crysis SP, and now Dragon Age Origins

PC has the largest userbase worldwide and is the most played gaming platform. The shift to digital distribution has created an opportunity for many first-time game developers to launch unique, original and deep games. This would have been impossible in the past. Due to this I have the largest backlog I've ever had and I believe PC gaming is beginning to enter a new golden era.

Honestly with all the consolites in SW arguing that PC gaming is dieing; it brings me great satisfaction to know just how in trouble consoles are.

Sony and Microsoft are barely able to differentiate themselves this generation, it will be a laugh to see them continue next generation when development costs are expected to double. I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive. PC gaming doesn't have a 1st party to write checks on its behalf, that however hasn't prevent it from having a AA/AAA exclusive lead over consoles.

High budget games just aren't sustainable as exclusives this generation, they only exist because Sony and Microsoft are paying out to make them happen. Console users have no idea how in trouble consoles are right now, Sony and Microsoft are hiding the strain by significantly increasing their financial support. PC in the meantime has managed to maintain a exclusive lead without any financial support; and it's supposed to be dieing? What a joke, console users should try looking into the mirror and seriously ask themselves whether their system could compete without direct 1st party life support.

Sooner or later that cost burden will become too much for the 1st party, how will consoles differentiate themselves then? Unlike PC; consoles have to compete to survive.

From a mainstream perspective it is dying.PC gaming as a whole right now is in the process of evolving, niche genres and indie developers seem to be the future.

What people don't realize is that Consoles have ALWAYS been more used/popular. It's always been this way.

That being said, PC gaming is still there and always will be. It seems to be getting more and more niche but it will always be there just as Consoles will always be.Puckhog04

iam planning on building a gaming rig is it worth it and is the pc gaming still strong or no

Tommy8930

do it we need all the support we can get and its strong enough atm if maybe slightly behind console in developer support

EDIT: i forgot to mention its games are in general significntly better versions and are worth the money you pay for the system

I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive.

AnnoyedDragon

The pc will always get indy games like torchlight but high end exclusives are definitely in decline. As for the overall health of the pc it depends on which area you are looking at. Casual game sales are doing great while some genres like sports are pretty much dead compared to 5 years ago.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive.

dc337

The pc will always get indy games like torchlight but high end exclusives are definitely in decline. As for the overall health of the pc it depends on which area you are looking at. Casual game sales are doing great while some genres like sports are pretty much dead compared to 5 years ago.

So do you just ignore the fact that MS has broken up their pc gaming teams, even the flight sim team that had zero competition? Or how Sony rarely brings their exclusives to the pc, even after the gen is over?

dc337

Because how Sony and Microsoft treats PC gaming, both of which are console companies, is supposed to say something about PC gaming?

You're going to have to explain that one.

The pc will always get indy games like torchlight but high end exclusives are definitely in decline.

dc337

High end exclusives are declining on all systems because they are too expensive to stay exclusive to any one platform. My post just pointed out that despite this PC is in the lead with AA/AAA games; and it didn't need a financial backer to do it.

In the majority of cases consoles only get high end exclusives because Microsoft or Sony became the games publisher to make it happen. That speaks of their willingness to spend money to keep games exclusive; not of the platforms ability to attract high end exclusives.

As for the overall health of the pc it depends on which area you are looking at. Casual game sales are doing great while some genres like sports are pretty much dead compared to 5 years ago.

dc337

Sports has very broad appeal and you don't get a much broader audience than on consoles, they do after all have next to no entry level requirements. Thankfully sports it not an area of interest to me, even if it was I have access to a PS3. My interest is in single player experiences with fantasy themes, realism games with no fantasy elements don't appeal to me.

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive.

Mazoch

The pc will always get indy games like torchlight but high end exclusives are definitely in decline. As for the overall health of the pc it depends on which area you are looking at. Casual game sales are doing great while some genres like sports are pretty much dead compared to 5 years ago.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive.

dc337

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]I'm supposed to believe consoles are healthier than PC gaming when Sony and Microsoft are writing checks left and right to keep games exclusive.

agentfred

No it supports the fact that pc gaming doesn't get the same support from big companies that it used to. Having a big company write big checks shows an interest in a platform, not a lack of it.

dc337

That doesn't make any sense, why would the platform owner having to pay to keep a game exclusive to their platform show developers are interested? If they were interested they wouldn't need to be paid off to keep the game exclusive to that platform in the first place.

You talk about big companies writing big checks showing an interest in a platform. Maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with those big companies (Sony & Microsoft) actually owning those platforms?

No it supports the fact that pc gaming doesn't get the same support from big companies that it used to. Having a big company write big checks shows an interest in a platform, not a lack of it.

dc337

You always talk about how the PC doesn't get many big budget exclusives anymore, and that's because this is the age of the multiplatform. The budgets have gotten just too large, and exclusivity just doesn't make sense anymore. That is, unless you're MS or Sony, and you're trying to push you're console. If it wasn't for these first parties, I think you would find console exclusivity is in just as great decline as the PC counterpart.

Getting back to Annoyed's post, he's saying that calling these systems more healthy than the PC just because they've got first party supporters is ridiculous. Then you go ahead and say that these same companies have stopped developing for the PC, instead, they develop for their own particular system. Well, that only makes sense, and it only goes to show how desperate MS and Sony are to put more exclusives on their systems. I mean, if anything, your post supported his statement. :?

PC still have the support of indie developers, but even the Wii is starting to take some of that away. Plants vs Zombies and World of Goo are both great games that are fun but different.hiphops_savior

How does those games also being on the Wii 'take them away' from PC? Does PC lose the ability to play the games if they are not exclusive?

Unlike consoles; PC gaming's survival is not reliant on hording exclusives to milk licensing fees off. A game being on another platform does not hurt PC as a platform, it just means the sales are distributed between those platforms. If it were a PS3 or 360 on the other hand; that would be a different matter. Sales on competitor platforms is licensing fees console companies are not receiving; and they need those fees to survive.

Also not forgetting that the system requirements for those games are pretty much anything, even netbooks can run them. System requirements are not a barrier for games like Plants vs Zombies and World of Goo on PC, the audience is potentially every PC sold.

yeah, i'd say it is, i enjoy pc gaming far more than console gaming and if you have about 2 grand to spend then you'd probably be able to run all the new games coming out with ease.

I'm pretty certain it's the most rapidly expanding market, though not everyone within the PC gaming market has a high end rig.

treedoor

is pc gaming still big or its dying?

Tommy8930

iam planning on building a gaming rig is it worth it and is the pc gaming still strong or no

Tommy8930

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iam planning on building a gaming rig is it worth it and is the pc gaming still strong or no

cee1gee

Activision doesn't control PC gaming.

It's this simple. Anyone can make games for PC thats not true for the consoles. So as long at this never changes, PC gaming will always have a supply of great games and will never die.

gaming will always be important to computers and there are fewer and fewer console exclusives. someday there will be none left except for those that are exclusive to the PC and then the console owners will whinge about what the PC has they can't play instead of *****ing about whether the 360 or PS3 version is prettier.

At the speed the industry is advancing that day may not be too many years ahead.

and remember it was no that long ago this site started as videogamespot and was dedicated to PC games only.

consoles were added a few years later

Does no one really pay attention to PC releases these days?

Fighting games are scarce on the PC, but there are brawlers and there are fighters. Street Fighter IV has a PC version with better graphical effects. Vanguard Princess is a PC-only indie fighting game. (You should know about that, Yandere!). In fact, PC gamers have a basic fighting engine that they can customize to create the fighting game THEY want.

Devil May Cry 3 and Devil May Cry 4 are both on PC. Zelda can be emulated on PC. So can Mario, actually. If you want something a little less gray-market, you could try Braid or Trine. Lost Vikings is also a PC game.

For action adventure, you could try one of the WC3 mods, or really, many MMOs of the right type. Bashing opponents in real time is the mainstay of action-adventure combat, and MMOs are flooded with that. Not that those are the only types of MMOs. It's really a mistake to classify all MMOs as one genre.

All the best GTAs are also on the PC. As are Fallout 3 and such. For JRPGs, the Final Fantasies are on PC, as are Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant. Of course, in terms of Japanese games, what's really hot on PC are the AVNs.

It's still big becasue of piracyleperphiliac