Is PC the worst system for RPGs and shooters ?

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]Shooters should always be played on consoles. Same with RPGs. There's a reason why all the great RPGs existed on console. Richytheman

Well, if you want to play at 60fps or just love using kb+mouse, and want better graphics, then you can also choose to play them on the PC. You can also use a controller for PC games, as I said. What's the advantage of playing those games on consoles? I don't get it.

Well, you weren't talking about exclusives when you said that these games "should always be played on consoles", because there's no other option. You're forced to play them on consoles if you want to play them. So even if you think console exclusives are worth it, this topic isn't about exclusives.

Also, when saying this, you didn't specify "for someone who's deciding between buying a PC or a console", you just said that they should always be played on consoles, meaning if I have both a cobnsole and a PC, I should get it on the console because it's the better version. In some case it might be true, but it's not always the case, and it often falls down on personal preference. You don't always need to upgrade your PC, and if you want to play games as well as consoles play them, meaning 30 fps and medium graphics, you certainly don't need to upgrade it all that much.

Why the hell do people keep falling for this guy?!

Wasdie

It is the better version unless you're a masochist that likes troubleshooting and fixing bugs, dealing with glitches and constantly installing patches to improve your game. You also have the ability to mod, which should not be there in the first place as it is not right to take someone else's work and change it to be your own. Finally, there's the issue with wanting to sit comfortably on the couch with friends and play. I don't get to do that with a PC. Richytheman

Not all games are all bugged. Of course, when you buy a game at launch, there might be more bugs than it you wait. Bugs happen on consoles as well (example: Skyrim). Patches are downloaded and applied automatically for me. Modding is a personal preference, you either like a certain mod or you don't, but you're not forced to use it. Certain mods split the community, which canh be a downside, but it never bothered me all that much.

I play PC games on my bed just like my console games. All you need is a few pillows, a foot rest, and usb extension cords or a wireless keyboard+mouse combo.

Shooters should always be played on consoles. Same with RPGs. There's a reason why all the great RPGs existed on console. Richytheman

Actually most of the great shooters and RPGs have been on PC (outside of JRPGS), historically speaking. And PC has the best control method for Shooters

Well, that's the whole thing about consoles, they are cheaper (even though games are expensive), easy to bring to your friends house, you get a controller, you get exclusives... But you can also upgrade a console, meaning you can get a new hard drive, get more controllers, get all those new things like Kinect/PS move... So there's not a whole lot difference in terms of customization between consoles and PCs other than the possibility to upgrade your PC, which is a good thing because you're not forced to upgrade, as I said, if you're happy with console gaming in terms of fps and graphics, you really don't need to have a high-end gpu or cpu to match that.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]It is the better version unless you're a masochist that likes troubleshooting and fixing bugs, dealing with glitches and constantly installing patches to improve your game. You also have the ability to mod, which should not be there in the first place as it is not right to take someone else's work and change it to be your own. Finally, there's the issue with wanting to sit comfortably on the couch with friends and play. I don't get to do that with a PC. Richytheman

Not all games are all bugged. Of course, when you buy a game at launch, there might be more bugs than it you wait. Bugs happen on consoles as well (example: Skyrim). Patches are downloaded and applied automatically for me. Modding is a personal preference, you either like a certain mod or you don't, but you're not forced to use it. Certain mods split the community, which canh be a down-side, but it never bothered me all that much.

I play PC games on my bed just like my console games. All you need is a few pillows, a foot rest, and usb extension cords or a wireless kb+mouse combo.

controllers for consoles are free? :o

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]It is the better version unless you're a masochist that likes troubleshooting and fixing bugs, dealing with glitches and constantly installing patches to improve your game. You also have the ability to mod, which should not be there in the first place as it is not right to take someone else's work and change it to be your own. Finally, there's the issue with wanting to sit comfortably on the couch with friends and play. I don't get to do that with a PC. Richytheman

Not all games are all bugged. Of course, when you buy a game at launch, there might be more bugs than it you wait. Bugs happen on consoles as well (example: Skyrim). Patches are downloaded and applied automatically for me. Modding is a personal preference, you either like a certain mod or you don't, but you're not forced to use it. Certain mods split the community, which canh be a down-side, but it never bothered me all that much.

I play PC games on my bed just like my console games. All you need is a few pillows, a foot rest, and usb extension cords or a wireless kb+mouse combo.

The point of PC is you have a choice of what peripherals and parts you want.

The point of PC is you have a choice of what peripherals and parts you want.

lostrib

PCs have mouse+kb combo (consoles have the kb but not for gaming), 360 has Kinect, PS3/Wii have motion controls.

Of course, there's the Wii fit board, and maybe other stuff I missed.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

The point of PC is you have a choice of what peripherals and parts you want.

bloodling

PCs have mouse+kb combo (consoles have the kb but not for gaming), 360 has Kinect, PS3/Wii have motion controls.

Of course, there's the Wii fit board, and maybe other stuff I missed.

Well PC has mouse and KB, controllers, and motion controllers. There's also kinect for windows, but idk how much it is utilised.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]It is the better version unless you're a masochist that likes troubleshooting and fixing bugs, dealing with glitches and constantly installing patches to improve your game. You also have the ability to mod, which should not be there in the first place as it is not right to take someone else's work and change it to be your own. Finally, there's the issue with wanting to sit comfortably on the couch with friends and play. I don't get to do that with a PC. Richytheman

Not all games are all bugged. Of course, when you buy a game at launch, there might be more bugs than it you wait. Bugs happen on consoles as well (example: Skyrim). Patches are downloaded and applied automatically for me. Modding is a personal preference, you either like a certain mod or you don't, but you're not forced to use it. Certain mods split the community, which canh be a down-side, but it never bothered me all that much.

I play PC games on my bed just like my console games. All you need is a few pillows, a foot rest, and usb extension cords or a wireless kb+mouse combo.

How stupid are you? No really.... You do know that adding in mod tools is not only great for gamers, it's also great for the developers. Why? Well I will use two games an example, Oblivion and Warcraft 3. With mods, on Oblivion there has been improvements to the graphics, sound, gameplay and even bug fixes, hell there was even a game made out because of mods that if I remember right is bigger and even said to be better than Oblivion and it's all free for the gamers. Warcraft 3 had Dota made from a mod and people to this day will buy Warcraft 3, just to play Dota and again it's free. But as I said before, this is also great for developers, as they don't have to do anything and they get money from gamers that just want to play these mods.

So how does this = to consumers walking all over the developers and tarnishing their work?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"] See? I don't like the fact that you have to buy these peripherals or pay for extension cords. Just another example of how PC gaming sucks more money out of you. With a console, you pay for the system, you buy some games and you're good to go. With PC, you're forced to pay for all this exterior sh!t and upgrade your computer just to get a worthwhile gaming experience. You don't have to do with consoles. I'll admit that not every game and system is perfect. Bethesda games are jokes on consoles; that's why I don't support Bethesda because they are a bullsh!t company that has no understanding of how to make a properly polished game. Then they go and add modding tools to let consumers walk all over them and tarnish the work they spent a lot of time to create. Not even every console is perfect either. Case in point, the PS3. Richytheman

The point of PC is you have a choice of what peripherals and parts you want.

So if you don't want to play with a keyboard and mouse, use a controller.

[QUOTE="Richytheman"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

Not all games are all bugged. Of course, when you buy a game at launch, there might be more bugs than it you wait. Bugs happen on consoles as well (example: Skyrim). Patches are downloaded and applied automatically for me. Modding is a personal preference, you either like a certain mod or you don't, but you're not forced to use it. Certain mods split the community, which canh be a down-side, but it never bothered me all that much.

I play PC games on my bed just like my console games. All you need is a few pillows, a foot rest, and usb extension cords or a wireless kb+mouse combo.

CaseyWegner

controllers for consoles are free? :o

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"] See? I don't like the fact that you have to buy these peripherals or pay for extension cords. Just another example of how PC gaming sucks more money out of you. With a console, you pay for the system, you buy some games and you're good to go. With PC, you're forced to pay for all this exterior sh!t and upgrade your computer just to get a worthwhile gaming experience. You don't have to do with consoles. I'll admit that not every game and system is perfect. Bethesda games are jokes on consoles; that's why I don't support Bethesda because they are a bullsh!t company that has no understanding of how to make a properly polished game. Then they go and add modding tools to let consumers walk all over them and tarnish the work they spent a lot of time to create. Not even every console is perfect either. Case in point, the PS3. Richytheman

How stupid are you? No really.... You do know that adding in mod tools is not only great for gamers, it's also great for the developers. Why? Well I will use two games an example, Oblivion and Warcraft 3. With mods, on Oblivion there has been improvements to the graphics, sound, gameplay and even bug fixes, hell there was even a game made out because of mods that if I remember right is bigger and even said to be better than Oblivion and it's all free for the gamers. Warcraft 3 had Dota made from a mod and people to this day will buy Warcraft 3, just to play Dota and again it's free. But as I said before, this is also great for developers, as they don't have to do anything and they get money from gamers that just want to play these mods.

So how does this = to consumers walking all over the developers and tarnishing their work?

In both examples you used, the gamers are not playing the actual games that the developers worked hard to create. Take a Youtube partnership for an example. I would rather get money from people that actually watch and enjoy the videos I have worked hard to make instead of people coming in, thumbing me down, leaving me nasty comments, and then going to another video. My stance has nothing to do with making money; it has everything to do with integrity and satisfaction knowing that people actually enjoy what I've created (hypotehtically of course, I don't have a Youtube account). I fail to see how having a stance against modding makes me stupid.

You still have the option to play the original game. Mods allow for a lot of options. For example, the developers can make a game that can run on a variety of hardware configurations such as Skyrim. But with mods, you can add in a number of high end textures and lighting/ENB effects to make the game look truely amazing if you have the power. In addition, there are quite a few games that have grown out of mods such as Counter strike, team fortress, HoN/Dota=LoL.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"] See? I don't like the fact that you have to buy these peripherals or pay for extension cords. Just another example of how PC gaming sucks more money out of you. With a console, you pay for the system, you buy some games and you're good to go. With PC, you're forced to pay for all this exterior sh!t and upgrade your computer just to get a worthwhile gaming experience. You don't have to do with consoles. I'll admit that not every game and system is perfect. Bethesda games are jokes on consoles; that's why I don't support Bethesda because they are a bullsh!t company that has no understanding of how to make a properly polished game. Then they go and add modding tools to let consumers walk all over them and tarnish the work they spent a lot of time to create. Not even every console is perfect either. Case in point, the PS3. Richytheman

How stupid are you? No really.... You do know that adding in mod tools is not only great for gamers, it's also great for the developers. Why? Well I will use two games an example, Oblivion and Warcraft 3. With mods, on Oblivion there has been improvements to the graphics, sound, gameplay and even bug fixes, hell there was even a game made out because of mods that if I remember right is bigger and even said to be better than Oblivion and it's all free for the gamers. Warcraft 3 had Dota made from a mod and people to this day will buy Warcraft 3, just to play Dota and again it's free. But as I said before, this is also great for developers, as they don't have to do anything and they get money from gamers that just want to play these mods.

So how does this = to consumers walking all over the developers and tarnishing their work?

In both examples you used, the gamers are not playing the actual games that the developers worked hard to create. Take a Youtube partnership for an example. I would rather get money from people that actually watch and enjoy the videos I have worked hard to make instead of people coming in, thumbing me down, leaving me nasty comments, and then going to another video. My stance has nothing to do with making money; it has everything to do with integrity and satisfaction knowing that people actually enjoy what I've created (hypotehtically of course, I don't have a Youtube account). I fail to see how having a stance against modding makes me stupid.

but there is one key thing you are missing here, it's optional. you don't have to use the mods but it doesn't harm anyone if you do. if developers didn't want people to mod their games, they can easily do that. THQ did it with Dawn of War 2 cause they saw that people like having options in their games. So they came up with the skin packs. Mods help the gaming community as it breeds new ideas for games and helps makes new games. The moba games have been going great, thanks to mods. Team Fortress and Counter Strike, thanks to mods. And then you have the "Complete" mods for the Stalker series, they don't change the core element of the game, but only enchance it with improvements to graphics, sounds, A.I and bug fixes. Again, I am still not seeing this tarnishing the developers work.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

In both examples you used, the gamers are not playing the actual games that the developers worked hard to create. Take a Youtube partnership for an example. I would rather get money from people that actually watch and enjoy the videos I have worked hard to make instead of people coming in, thumbing me down, leaving me nasty comments, and then going to another video. My stance has nothing to do with making money; it has everything to do with integrity and satisfaction knowing that people actually enjoy what I've created (hypotehtically of course, I don't have a Youtube account). I fail to see how having a stance against modding makes me stupid.

Richytheman

but there is one key thing you are missing here, it's optional. you don't have to use the mods but it doesn't harm anyone if you do. if developers didn't want people to mod their games, they can easily do that. THQ did it with Dawn of War 2 cause they saw that people like having options in their games. So they came up with the skin packs. Mods help the gaming community as it breeds new ideas for games and helps makes new games. The moba games have been going great, thanks to mods. Team Fortress and Counter Strike, thanks to mods. Again, I am still not seeing this tarnishing the developers work.

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Now you are really grasping at straws, as consoles = closed platform and pc = open platform. Gamers are not tied to dead line like developers are, developers sometimes just don't have the time to add everything in that a gamer would do with a mod. The gamer doesn't see any of this profit when the mod is good and people buy a game to try out this mod, the developers do.

Some gamers have even been hired because of mods they have made, and so this brings fresh blood in.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

controllers for consoles are free? :o

redskins26rocs

Complete rubbish.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

In both examples you used, the gamers are not playing the actual games that the developers worked hard to create. Take a Youtube partnership for an example. I would rather get money from people that actually watch and enjoy the videos I have worked hard to make instead of people coming in, thumbing me down, leaving me nasty comments, and then going to another video. My stance has nothing to do with making money; it has everything to do with integrity and satisfaction knowing that people actually enjoy what I've created (hypotehtically of course, I don't have a Youtube account). I fail to see how having a stance against modding makes me stupid.

Richytheman

but there is one key thing you are missing here, it's optional. you don't have to use the mods but it doesn't harm anyone if you do. if developers didn't want people to mod their games, they can easily do that. THQ did it with Dawn of War 2 cause they saw that people like having options in their games. So they came up with the skin packs. Mods help the gaming community as it breeds new ideas for games and helps makes new games. The moba games have been going great, thanks to mods. Team Fortress and Counter Strike, thanks to mods. Again, I am still not seeing this tarnishing the developers work.

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

why are you say anti-options? are you just one of those people that's uncomfortable unless they're being told what to do? break out of your shell. have some fun.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

In both examples you used, the gamers are not playing the actual games that the developers worked hard to create. Take a Youtube partnership for an example. I would rather get money from people that actually watch and enjoy the videos I have worked hard to make instead of people coming in, thumbing me down, leaving me nasty comments, and then going to another video. My stance has nothing to do with making money; it has everything to do with integrity and satisfaction knowing that people actually enjoy what I've created (hypotehtically of course, I don't have a Youtube account). I fail to see how having a stance against modding makes me stupid.

Richytheman

but there is one key thing you are missing here, it's optional. you don't have to use the mods but it doesn't harm anyone if you do. if developers didn't want people to mod their games, they can easily do that. THQ did it with Dawn of War 2 cause they saw that people like having options in their games. So they came up with the skin packs. Mods help the gaming community as it breeds new ideas for games and helps makes new games. The moba games have been going great, thanks to mods. Team Fortress and Counter Strike, thanks to mods. Again, I am still not seeing this tarnishing the developers work.

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Trololololol

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

Trololololol

Shut up. I wasn't talking to you.

What's you're point?

[QUOTE="redskins26rocs"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

controllers for consoles are free? :o

AdobeArtist

Complete rubbish.

ditto. i have three controllers and haven't had a problem with any of them.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

Now you are really grasping at straws, as consoles = closed platform and pc = open platform. Gamers are not tied to dead line like developers are, developers sometimes just don't have the time to add everything in that a gamer would do with a mod. The gamer doesn't see any of this profit when the mod is good and people buy a game to try out this mod, the developers do.

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

It's not illegal. They can do whatever they want

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

Now you are really grasping at straws, as consoles = closed platform and pc = open platform. Gamers are not tied to dead line like developers are, developers sometimes just don't have the time to add everything in that a gamer would do with a mod. The gamer doesn't see any of this profit when the mod is good and people buy a game to try out this mod, the developers do.

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

do you object to condiments like ketchup, mustard, salt, pepper, hot sauce, etc. being on the tables at a restaurant?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

why are you say anti-options? are you just one of those people that's uncomfortable unless they're being told what to do? break out of your shell. have some fun.

What's wrong with wanting to be told what to do? What's wrong with wanting to have an organized experience than a sloppy, messy one? I can say that about video games, I can say that about films, I can say that about music. Developers and producers work hard to put these products on the market. What, is that not good enough? We have to owe them something for their effort.

What's wrong with being able to do both? I can play skyrim as is no problem, or I can load it up with high res textures, realistic lighting, Zoidberg crabs, Macho Man Randy Savage Dragons. I can do both, it's called freedom. Welcome to 'MERICA

Personally I prefer a gamepad over KB/M but its all subjective anyway so dont waste your time trying to convince Herms. But this thread is just stupid Lem bullcrap anyway.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

why are you say anti-options? are you just one of those people that's uncomfortable unless they're being told what to do? break out of your shell. have some fun.

What's wrong with wanting to be told what to do? What's wrong with wanting to have an organized experience than a sloppy, messy one? I can say that about video games, I can say that about films, I can say that about music. Developers and producers work hard to put these products on the market. What, is that not good enough? We have to owe them something for their effort.

we do owe them something. it's called money. the developers want us to enjoy their games as much as possible. they do the majority of the ground work and let you have the option to make some tweaks to suit individual taste. nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

Now you are really grasping at straws, as consoles = closed platform and pc = open platform. Gamers are not tied to dead line like developers are, developers sometimes just don't have the time to add everything in that a gamer would do with a mod. The gamer doesn't see any of this profit when the mod is good and people buy a game to try out this mod, the developers do.

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

If developers didn't like mods and felt it tarnished their work, they can easily stop it. Again THQ did it with Dawn of War 2. Mods means games sell for a longer period, again Blizzard still sell copies of Warcraft 3, with came out in 2002. So people could play Dota. Why is this a bad thing? That's the joy of PC gaming, you have options. I played Stalker: Call of Pripyat last year and now I have an itch to play it again, well now I can up the graphics, the sound, the weather effects, A.I fixes and bug fixes. I have played it the way the developers made it and now I get to do it again but better.

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are you say anti-options? are you just one of those people that's uncomfortable unless they're being told what to do? break out of your shell. have some fun.

CaseyWegner

What's wrong with wanting to be told what to do? What's wrong with wanting to have an organized experience than a sloppy, messy one? I can say that about video games, I can say that about films, I can say that about music. Developers and producers work hard to put these products on the market. What, is that not good enough? We have to owe them something for their effort.

we do owe them something. it's called money. the developers want us to enjoy their games as much as possible. they do the majority of the ground work and let you have the option to make some tweaks to suit individual taste. nothing wrong with that.

Maybe he doesnt realise you have to buy the game in order to apply mods?

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

Richytheman

I made a map for Starcract called Sky Assault, I made one for SC2 with the ai, heroes and everything in like a week, and I thought my game was pretty fun.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

Then why don't they have the players simply make the games? Obviously, game developers are not good enough anymore. Look at Atari. Look at Nintendo. They never had gamers step over their creations and "mod" their games.

Richytheman

Now you are really grasping at straws, as consoles = closed platform and pc = open platform. Gamers are not tied to dead line like developers are, developers sometimes just don't have the time to add everything in that a gamer would do with a mod. The gamer doesn't see any of this profit when the mod is good and people buy a game to try out this mod, the developers do.

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

I will try this, I have this recipe I want to cook but I want to mod a few things about it. Instead of using ham, I want to use chicken. Instead of green peppers, I want to use red peppers. Instead of salsa, I want to use mango. And so on. So am I an evil person for modding someone's recipe that they worked so hard on?

Shooters and WRPG's are far better on a PC. Everything else is better off consoles.tetrim

Shooters and WRPG's are far better on a PC. Everything else is better off consoles.tetrim

And your logic behide this is?

Yes. That's exactly my point because your "version" is not their recipe. If you can do so much better than them, then make your own game and sell it.

Richytheman

Well if you look at LBP the game is great but the best user-made levels are just as good... That's true for a lot of games, even though in some games it's weaker, but still enjoyed by some.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

Richytheman

do you object to condiments like ketchup, mustard, salt, pepper, hot sauce, etc. being on the tables at a restaurant?

Yes, I do.

nothing else to see here, folks.

[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

[QUOTE="Richytheman"]

That still doesn't justify why modding is okay.

Richytheman

I will try this, I have this recipe I want to cook but I want to mod a few things about it. Instead of using ham, I want to use chicken. Instead of green peppers, I want to use red peppers. Instead of salsa, I want to use mango. And so on. So am I an evil person for modding someone's recipe that they worked so hard on?

Yes. That's exactly my point because your "version" is not their recipe. If you can do so much better than them, then make your own game and sell it.

you seem to be missing the point, It's called "OPTIONS". At the end of the day, the developer still gets paid, the auther and chef still gets paid. Why do they care that I may change something cause I am allergic to something or I am colour blind to red. We have the options to mod it to suit ourselfs better and everyone walks away happy. Nobody gets hurt, nobody loses any money. I could say a friend wasn't going to buy game X because he didn't like something about it but because of a mod, that problem he has is now gone and now he is away to buy the game. That's another customer for the developer and more money for future titles.

You seem to have a hard time grasping this freedom and options thing. If it was a problem, developers wouldn't allow it but most of them love it, as they get to rake in money from something the made, sit back and then let some tweak around, which can and has led to more buyers.