Is ps4 controller as good as xbox one for FPS?

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#51 ProtossX
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@lundy86_4 said:
@ProtossX said:

go insert some more aa batteries into a controller made in 2013

rechargeable batteries have been the normal for a fucking decade a literal decade this isn't the 90's this isn't niche anymore this is the real world were living in

the batteries recharge now a days kings thats just how technology evolves

I'll take AA's over the shitty PS4 battery life.

it doesn't matter we live in a society now where mouse / keyboards recharge and are wireless batteries, phones are wireless rechargeable batteries, and everything around uses rechargable batteries

nobody uses aa batteries anymore that market died years ago microsoft can't be that far behind they need to be with us.

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#52 ProtossX
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@Wasdie said:

You won't perform worse with it as it's not a worse controller. It will all come down to preference. Personally I like the Xbox One's controller more. The placement of the sticks, the feel of the sticks, and the amazing triggers win me over.

would you rather use a 360 controller over xb1 controller?

also if your game uses a d-pad would you rather use ps4 or some other controller?

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#53  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@ProtossX said:
@Wasdie said:

You won't perform worse with it as it's not a worse controller. It will all come down to preference. Personally I like the Xbox One's controller more. The placement of the sticks, the feel of the sticks, and the amazing triggers win me over.

would you rather use a 360 controller over xb1 controller?

also if your game uses a d-pad would you rather use ps4 or some other controller?

The Xbox One controller is far superior to the Xbox 360 controller in every way. The Xbox One's d-pad is fine. It has very satisfying clicks. Completely usable.

Hell, using my Xbox 360 controller now feels wrong. The analog sticks just feel obtuse and sloppy.

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#54 Wasdie  Moderator
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@lundy86_4 said:
@ProtossX said:

go insert some more aa batteries into a controller made in 2013

rechargeable batteries have been the normal for a fucking decade a literal decade this isn't the 90's this isn't niche anymore this is the real world were living in

the batteries recharge now a days kings thats just how technology evolves

I'll take AA's over the shitty PS4 battery life.

I've got rechargeable AA's I used to use for my Xbox 360 controller. I've replaced the batteries in it once throughout an entire playthrough of Halo MCC, 10+ hours of forza, and a lot of netflix and streaming. My PS4 controller is dead in under 10 hours. It's a really terrible controller for battery life.

I don't think it has much to do with that LED either. Those aren't expensive to run. I think they just cheaped out on the battery in the thing.

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#55  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@ProtossX said:

it doesn't matter we live in a society now where mouse / keyboards recharge and are wireless batteries, phones are wireless rechargeable batteries, and everything around uses rechargable batteries

nobody uses aa batteries anymore that market died years ago microsoft can't be that far behind they need to be with us.

You're funny. The fact is the PS4's controller's battery sucks. The more advanced "modern" tech is straight up worse than some AAs. Just get rechargeable and you're set.

You're really stretching to try to bash the Xbox One here. It's kind of sad.

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#56 ProtossX
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@Wasdie: what about indies isn't the ps4 controller better for indies like shovel knight or older ps1-2 games

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#57 Wasdie  Moderator
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@ProtossX: The Xbox One's controller is fine. I'm replacing my Xbox 360 controller with an Xbox One controller for my PC ASAP to play more controller based games on my PC.

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#58  Edited By T-razor1
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@Protossx

You don't know what you're talking about. The Xbox One supports rechargeable batteries. I use this bad boy and it works perfectly. Therefore I have the choice to use batteries OR rechargeable batteries with the recharge station. So where is the disadvantage? Once the rechargeable batteries "wear" out I simply get new rechargeable batteries or use regular batteries until I get new rechargeable batteries. Does the DS4 have that flexibility? No once that rechargeable controller wears out what do you do? Don't you have to get a new DS4 controller altogether? I swear every time I hear stupid cows use batteries as a negative against the controller I just shake my head. There is no disadvantage. Sony is basically forcing you to buy a new controller once that rechargeable controller wears out.

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#59 ProtossX
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@Protossx

You don't know what you're talking about. The Xbox One supports rechargeable batteries. I use this bad boy and it works perfectly. Therefore I have the choice to use batteries OR rechargeable batteries with the recharge station. So where is the disadvantage? Once the rechargeable batteries "wear" out I simply get new rechargeable batteries or use regular batteries until I get new rechargeable batteries. Does the DS4 have that flexibility? No once that rechargeable controller wears out what do you do? Don't you have to get a new DS4 controller altogether? I swear every time I hear stupid cows use batteries as a negative against the controller I just shake my head. There is no disadvantage. Sony is basically forcing you to buy a new controller once that rechargeable controller wears out.

Would a new PS4 controller be cheaper or more expensive than buying a crapton of duracell batteries or buying a rechargable battery thing that breaks?

think about that the ps4 controller cheaper to just buy a new one or 2nd one than buy all that junk and if any of that breaks have to buy that junk over again too

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#60  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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@Wasdie: I lost my rechargeable batteries a while ago, so I picked up a cheap box of batteries from Costco in the interim, and i'm still using them. They do last a really long time. I think the battery is my major gripe with the PS4 controller.

@ProtossX said:

it doesn't matter we live in a society now where mouse / keyboards recharge and are wireless batteries, phones are wireless rechargeable batteries, and everything around uses rechargable batteries

nobody uses aa batteries anymore that market died years ago microsoft can't be that far behind they need to be with us.

When we're comparing the two, I think it absolutely matters. I'm not saying there aren't better rechargeable batteries out there, but in this instance, i'll take the lesser of two evils.

What wireless keyboard/mice come with rechargeable batteries? I've had roughly 3/4 sets in the last year or so, and never had rechargeable batteries.

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#61 T-razor1
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@ProtossX said:
@T-razor1 said:

@Protossx

You don't know what you're talking about. The Xbox One supports rechargeable batteries. I use this bad boy and it works perfectly. Therefore I have the choice to use batteries OR rechargeable batteries with the recharge station. So where is the disadvantage? Once the rechargeable batteries "wear" out I simply get new rechargeable batteries or use regular batteries until I get new rechargeable batteries. Does the DS4 have that flexibility? No once that rechargeable controller wears out what do you do? Don't you have to get a new DS4 controller altogether? I swear every time I hear stupid cows use batteries as a negative against the controller I just shake my head. There is no disadvantage. Sony is basically forcing you to buy a new controller once that rechargeable controller wears out.

Would a new PS4 controller be cheaper or more expensive than buying a crapton of duracell batteries or buying a rechargable battery thing that breaks?

think about that the ps4 controller cheaper to just buy a new one or 2nd one than buy all that junk and if any of that breaks have to buy that junk over again too

Seriously how old are you? I swear every time I read your posts you just come off as so fragile and insecure. I'm still using my controllers that I got with my system from 2013 and barely have to recharge during or between play sessions. The same cannot be said for the ds4. So the xbox one is more flexible in terms of battery choice; I get longer play sessions compared to the ds4; and once my rechargeables wear out I will get new ones. Compared to a ps4 owner who will have to get a whole new controller. My recharge station comes with two rechargeable batteries at $24.98 while your ds4 controller is coming in at 50 bucks. So who is losing out here?

So there is no "crapton of duracell batteries" being used lol. Please think carefully before you post. It truly does feel like you're trying to force yourself to sh*t on the Xbox controller but your argument comes off as weak.

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#62 Fairmonkey
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Dont listen to the xbots. I had a 360 last Gen and the Dual shock 4 is just as good if not better than the 360 controller for FPS. I have thumbstick gel grips on the controller which I highly recommend. The xbone controller has tiny sticks, large deadzones, worse triggers, and "dont even get me started on" the bumpers

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#63 hrt_rulz01
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Give me the Xbone controller any day. For any game!

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#64 arad96
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I want to know this as well. I don't own a console, but I did buy a ps3 and xbox 360 controller for some PC games a while back. Honestly, both were fine, although I did prefer the DS3. Do the new controllers warrant a purchase or am I fine with what I use?

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#65 silversix_
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@arad96 said:

I want to know this as well. I don't own a console, but I did buy a ps3 and xbox 360 controller for some PC games a while back. Honestly, both were fine, although I did prefer the DS3. Do the new controllers warrant a purchase or am I fine with what I use?

you're fine with what you use but if you do want to spend some money and upgrade, i'd suggest getting a DS4 and grab 2 Xbone analog sticks on Ebay (yes they're compatible). Feels almost perfect.

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#66 Soethi6
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For shooters? XBOX One. For sport games? DS4.

Honestly, I have no problem with either. Takes a few hours until you don't notice a difference anymore.

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@ProtossX said:

@Wasdie: what about indies isn't the ps4 controller better for indies like shovel knight or older ps1-2 games

your DC is really bad...

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#68 thedork_knight
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Both of them are perfectly fine for FPS, i dont understand why people keep asking these types of questions in SW as all you get is the idiot fanboys like fairmonkey and protosserX spouting shit

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#69 Szminsky
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I think neither gives a great improvement in frames per second

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#70 NyaDC
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Complicated answer no, simple answer no.

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@Legend002 said:

Better. The triggers on the bone sucks bad.

To each his own I guess

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#72 darkangel115
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The X1 i much better for shooters. I think the main issue with the DS4/X1 debate is the way you hold it. The X1 is designed to fit in your hand so you grip it tight, the DS4 is designed to be held with your fingers and not with your palm touching it. But with that aside, the ROM is better for the LS due to placement on the X1 and the triggers are better (DS4 still doesn't have real triggers) and on the X1 you have better access to the bumpers then you do on the DS4 (bumper jumper)

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The old me preferred the Xbox One controller. But after @tormentos showed me the light, I now understand that only Sony produces quality products and games. So now I enjoy the DS4 more. The battery dying faster is just Sony reminding me that I need to get up and do something active more often. The squishy triggers are a reminder of what my mid section would feel like if I played the Xbox One. Xbox wants us to be lazy, fat losers. No thanks! Too bad I already paid for that "Elite" XB1 controller. That's gonna be one expensive paperweight. It will be a good reminder of the mistakes I have made in my past.


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The issue I have with the Dual Shock is the battery life and the rubber anaolog. I'm on my second Dual Shock cause the rubber started to peel off both anolog so I got the camo one now and the analop feels better like they improves on the rubber from the launch Dual Shocks so that's good. That light bar is pointless cause I literally get about 4-5 hours of battery life out of it. I can charge the controller all night and during the day when i'm at work, game when i get home for about 2 to 3 hours and the controller is on 1 to 2 bars, it's pathetic. Althought, I love the touch pad, I want to see how much more they can do with games with it. The issues I had with the X1 controller was the bumpers, they are too high but i've adjusted to it and gotten use to them but not all people will. Get the play and charge reusable X1 battery for them and you can go the whole day or more without worry about it dying. The D-pad is hit and miss, it's good in some instances and not so much in others and the controller just feels better in my hand, more durable.

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Both are good but the XBONE's controller has better stick placement and overall better analog sticks. LOL at people thinking 360 controller is better, those analog sticks are straight up dinner plates (like wasdie said obtuse and sloppy).

Playing PC games (non shooters) with the xbone pad is pretty damn satisfying.

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#76  Edited By Epak_
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My brother has an Xbone controller he uses for PC games. My hands ain't that big, but that controller feels too small. If I get a good grip of the controller it's hard to hit the bumpers. I end up pushing them with the proximal phalanx (you guys use that?) of the finger. With the DS4 I use the tip of my finger (or distal phalanx lolz). X360 had a better design imo.

Edit: Scratch that... I'm full of shit. I'm playing around with the controller at the moment...

Edit2: Yeah it doesn't fit my hand that like the DS4 does. I'm sure I'd get used to it though.

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I prefer DS4 due to the fact that I hate the bumper buttons on the X1 controller. Plus the X1 controller randomly comes disconnected in the middle of gaming while the Xbox Guide button just flashes while not connecting to the console. Oh and then there is the issue with my headset resetting all my volumes everytime I turn the console off (It constantly turns the volume down really low).

My main issue with the DS4 is the crappy battery life. I think mine only last around 3-4 hours anymore before it needs to be recharged. I'd much rather have the ability to change batteries than have to plug my controller in every few hours.

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@rrjim1: You have tiny goblin hands.

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@ProtossX said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@ProtossX said:

go insert some more aa batteries into a controller made in 2013

rechargeable batteries have been the normal for a fucking decade a literal decade this isn't the 90's this isn't niche anymore this is the real world were living in

the batteries recharge now a days kings thats just how technology evolves

I'll take AA's over the shitty PS4 battery life.

it doesn't matter we live in a society now where mouse / keyboards recharge and are wireless batteries, phones are wireless rechargeable batteries, and everything around uses rechargable batteries

nobody uses aa batteries anymore that market died years ago microsoft can't be that far behind they need to be with us.

All those devices (besides apple) use removable rechargeable batteries. Only companies (like apple) looking to milk uninformed people put in non removable batteries because most people will just buy a new one when the batter dies (or in apples case, have apple replace it for a stupid amount of money)

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Advanced-Individual-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00JHKSMJU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436810799&sr=1-1&keywords=Eneloop+battery+charger

one pack of those gives you about 14-20 hours of usage on 1 charge and always have a fresh pair ready that charge overnight.

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#80  Edited By LadyBlue
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Both are serviceable gamepads for fps. If I had to choose, I'd pick the ds4. Can't overlook the sticks placement, and the bumpers of the xbox controller.

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#81  Edited By scoots9
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The Wii Remote is the only controller that's good for FPS.

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@FinalFighters said:
@Legend002 said:

Better. The triggers on the bone sucks bad.

This.

i love the XBOX ONE controller but man, those triggers are the worst.

Xbone controller feels super cheap in your hands. Bumpers also suck donkey balls. Overall its a fair step down from the 360 controller.

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#83 QuadKnight
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PS4 controller is better. The Xbone triggers are rubbish from my experience with them.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Don't use the DS4 if you want rubber pealing off in your hands. While the DS4 feels nice and is Sony best controller to date, the Xbox One controller just fits like a glove. Now take that mastery a step further and get the Elite version.

I've used a DS4 on my PC for over six months and have had zero issues with the thumb sticks. I'm assuming the issues people had were with early models. I can't say much about the Xbox controller, but I have heard reported that the analogue sticks (the dead zone at least) are not as good as the previous 360 model and that was not even as good as the dualshock 3,

I have to admit though it would be nice if it had slightly better battery life, but it works flawlessly with PC unlike the dualshock 3 where the custom bluetooth drivers caused BSODs, the Xbox controller not being bluetooth is a joke as well.

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#85 daredevils2k
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Coming from a 360 only gamer to a ps4 gamer, I must say that the ps4 controller is way better then the Xbox 1

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@FinalFighters said:
@Legend002 said:

Better. The triggers on the bone sucks bad.

This.

i love the XBOX ONE controller but man, those triggers are the worst.

Xbone controller feels super cheap in your hands. Bumpers also suck donkey balls. Overall its a fair step down from the 360 controller.

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#87 Spitfire-Six
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Which Xbox One Controller are we talking about Original release, Current ? Elite?

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@spitfire-six said:

Which Xbox One Controller are we talking about Original release, Current ? Elite?

obviously not the elite, haha!

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@GoldenElementXL said:

The old me preferred the Xbox One controller. But after @tormentos showed me the light, I now understand that only Sony produces quality products and games. So now I enjoy the DS4 more. The battery dying faster is just Sony reminding me that I need to get up and do something active more often. The squishy triggers are a reminder of what my mid section would feel like if I played the Xbox One. Xbox wants us to be lazy, fat losers. No thanks! Too bad I already paid for that "Elite" XB1 controller. That's gonna be one expensive paperweight. It will be a good reminder of the mistakes I have made in my past.

Yes i remember how lemming claimed the original xbox controller was better than the DS2 as well,there is always fanboys who will say my crap is better than yours fact is i have no problems playing with any controller those excuses are for chumps most people adapt and funny enough they were already adapted to the DS design before the xbox controller was even design.

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The X1 i much better for shooters. I think the main issue with the DS4/X1 debate is the way you hold it. The X1 is designed to fit in your hand so you grip it tight, the DS4 is designed to be held with your fingers and not with your palm touching it. But with that aside, the ROM is better for the LS due to placement on the X1 and the triggers are better (DS4 still doesn't have real triggers) and on the X1 you have better access to the bumpers then you do on the DS4 (bumper jumper)

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/01/17/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-the-results-ign-versus

a Poll with 600,000 votes and people chose the PS4 controller over the xbox one in droves,and before you bring any excuse or padding that same poll had the 2 console closer when it came to games.

The DS never had bumpers and is not like MS invented them Sega was there before just like the analogue on the upper left corner of the controller MS basically mixed the DS and the DC controller the rest is history the whole claims about superior controller mean shit look at that poll 600k voters that is huge and much bigger than most poll done on elections in US and my country to.

@darkangel115 said:

All those devices (besides apple) use removable rechargeable batteries. Only companies (like apple) looking to milk uninformed people put in non removable batteries because most people will just buy a new one when the batter dies (or in apples case, have apple replace it for a stupid amount of money)

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Advanced-Individual-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00JHKSMJU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436810799&sr=1-1&keywords=Eneloop+battery+charger

one pack of those gives you about 14-20 hours of usage on 1 charge and always have a fresh pair ready that charge overnight.

Oh please using AA is not a damn excuse to not pack any,MS could fu**ing pack 2 rechargeable batteries in AA form and design the controller in a way that simple USB cable chart it sony has done it twice already,the real reason MS doesn't pack them is to milk you dry because they know morons like you will go for their dual proprietary charger which they sold apart.

Fact is that is 2015 and there is no reason why MS can't pack that charger it sold apart for what $20 or $25 free instead of charging for it there is no excuse to justify that hell even more when the damn thing was $500 dollars.

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#90 Mozelleple112
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I'd actually say the PS4 controller is better in almost every way.

I really loved the Xbox 360 controller though, best triggers ever IMO.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Don't use the DS4 if you want rubber pealing off in your hands. While the DS4 feels nice and is Sony best controller to date, the Xbox One controller just fits like a glove. Now take that mastery a step further and get the Elite version.

The XB1 controller is too small for my gorilla hands

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#92 kingtito
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@tormentos: Give it rest loser. No one cares what you think or even bothers to read half the shit you write. Your opinion with regards to ANYTHING XOne is automatically tossed. You're incapable of being neutral and in fact are one of THEE biggest fanboys here.

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#93  Edited By Heil68
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@Legend002 said:

Better. The triggers on the bone sucks bad.

Not to mention the shoulder buttons.

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#94 Ribstaylor1
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It's so far my least favorite Playstation controller. It sits odd in my big hands making me feel like they didn't even consider people with man hands to be within their market. It literally feels small, and my hands cramp up from having contort them into the shape I need them into play with it. I'd say it's the worst controller I've used since the n64 controller.

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#95 Suppaman100
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@locopatho said:

DS4 is the best Sony pad ever but still falls behind Dreamcast, Gamecube, 360 and Xbone controllers.

It does what it needs to do though.

Gamecube? LMFAO

GC controller is probably one of the worst ever.

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#96  Edited By jg4xchamp
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@MBirdy88 said:

Honestly no ... "Triggers" are a minor advantage ... XBOX One analog sticks are far nicer though.

Eh, honestly neither is a major issue. Both are yuck, because gamepad.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@MBirdy88 said:

Honestly no ... "Triggers" are a minor advantage ... XBOX One analog sticks are far nicer though.

Eh, honestly neither is a major issue. Both are yuck, because gamepad.

I can agree on that.

Mouse Master Race.

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#98 1080pOnly
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@ProtossX said:

PS4 controller feels more rugged for me like the 360 controller.

XBone controller feels like a plastic kids toy i can't stand it i literally cant

ths ps4 brings me back tto days like snes/n64/360 beefy fun controllers

xbone feels like a cheap tiger hand held im done with my xb1 only for exclusives.

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#99 BassMan
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FPS is crap on any controller. Mouse and keyboard is the way to go. Also, swappable rechargeable AA batteries are much better than having to use charge cables. DS4 battery life sucks too.

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#100 FoxbatAlpha
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@Animal-Mother: praise be to Allah! I pray for your return and sacrificed a chicken. It worked!