Is Resistance 2 technically superior to Gears 2? Sure seems like it.

Sorry, but the "I played my friend's *insert console* and can therefore fairly pass judgment that *insert game* is sucky/inferior to *insert other game*" bit didn't hold water before, and it doesn't now. Maybe if you take a picture of your friend's 360, or send someone who has a 360 a PM, you'll be believed, but why should anyone take the words of a forum poster to heart when that exact statement is used multiple times a day for deceitful purposes? If your friend is so generous with lending you his 360, then either aforementioned option shouldn't be a problem.Verge_6

lol I can easily do it (not right now though) but what do I gain if you believe me.... If I post that pic, will you say that I'm right and R2 is waaaaaay better than GeoW2, not only here but in every single other topic about the same stuf??? Don't challenge me boy, I'm a man of my word.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]I know you didn't. I just noticed you attacking the poster that played the sales card in response to another poster who played the nomination card. I figure if you're going to attack one bit of faulty logic, you might as well attack all of it.GreenGoblin2099

I see and I agree with you. However, you can't deny that a nomination can prove technical superiority, while sales don't.

Kinda like the oscar for best FX, just because (just an example, not saying it's true) The Dark Knight sales more it has better FX than LotR.

If I post that pic, will you say that I'm right and R2 is waaaaaay better than GeoW2, not only here but in every single other topic about the same stuf??? Don't challenge me boy, I'm a man of my word.

GreenGoblin2099

R2 is more superior TECHNICALLY...its less linear, bigger bosses, more stuff going on, on screen...60 players online, etc. 1 thing i really liked about resistance was the feeling of being in a real war, i was surprised. Character detail is also more better, imo. Gears 2 just wins in textures..and overall a better storyline. Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]If I post that pic, will you say that I'm right and R2 is waaaaaay better than GeoW2, not only here but in every single other topic about the same stuf??? Don't challenge me boy, I'm a man of my word.

Verge_6

Well, this is even worse than I thought: you don't own GeoW2 and yet you bash me for my statement. I was never bashing GeoW2 at all, saying that other game is better is not bashing a game. When you see me saying GeoW2 sux bash me all you want, cuz I'd be full of ****.

So listen, I could do it, but I don't gain anything here to even bother doing that. You choose not to believe me, fine I can definitely live with that.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]If I post that pic, will you say that I'm right and R2 is waaaaaay better than GeoW2, not only here but in every single other topic about the same stuf??? Don't challenge me boy, I'm a man of my word.

GreenGoblin2099

Well, this is even worse than I thought: you don't own GeoW2 and yet you bash me for my statement. I was never bashing GeoW2 at all, saying that other game is better is not bashing a game. When you see me saying GeoW2 sux bash me all you want, cuz I'd be full of ****.

So listen, I could do it, but I don't gain anything here to even bother doing that. You choose not to believe me, fine I can definitely live with that.

If it had been for best graphics (technical) then I would say yes, that nomination carries some weight. Seeing as the nomination has nothing to do with visuals, artistic or technical, it doesn't mean anything in this debate.The_Game21x

Well, I see your point, but since your problem is that I bashed the sales comment let's put it this way:

"oh so now a nomination determines a game is technically better??"

"oh so now sales determine a game is technically better??"

What makes more sense to you??

You completely missed the point of my post. I wasn't "bashing" you, or your claims about Gears of War 2, but your use of the tired "I played my friend's console" bit as a basis, and that alone. "Gain" in the form of humiliation of the opposing party is a juvenile and childish approach. You can go ahead and use the whole "friend" ploy, but don't be surprised when no one believes you.Verge_6

Listen, let's just put it this way:

Yesterday a kid who created the "my parent got a PS3 for my Christmas present" created another one defending Halo 3. Big argument there, I posted who that guy was and someone else pointed that if he wants a 360 he can't defend Halo 3 because, well he doesn't own that game... wanna know what some one said about that??

"oh he probably played it with one of his friends, what's so worng about that??"

No one refuted that. Why?? because he was defending Halo while I'm "talking bad" about GeoW2?? Bias will always exist and even if I did what you want, I bet any one can refute my pic, so as I don't gain anything, why even bother???

And no, that's not humilliation right there. You said you were going to believe me and believing me is accepting what I said, therefore saying that R2 is better than GeoW.

No one refuted that. Why?? because he was defending Halo while I'm "talking bad" about GeoW2?? Bias will always exist and even if I did what you want, I bet any one can refute my pic, so as I don't gain anything, why even bother???

And no, that's not humilliation right there. You said you were going to believe me and believing me is accepting what I said, therefore saying that R2 is better than GeoW.

GreenGoblin2099

Wow, i can't believe people still argue about this.

Ok i will try to be as clear as possible. Having played through both games, I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. Both games are really good. I enjoyed both campaigns and I think these two, along with fallout, are the best games of the year. But there is one thing i notice here... from a technical point of view, GEARS 2 IS UNDERRATED.

Why is this? People actually forget the little details this game has to offer. These little details actually require a lot of raw proccessing power and calculus. There are many things i analyzed during both games. Yes, Resistance 2 has a lot of enemies on screen, and 60 player multiplayer..but that's about it. Thetextures are muddy and the lighting is not very dynamic; this though is conpensated by the amount of detail and the marvelous artstyle. But gears 2 is more than just 12 locust and a meathead on screen. Gears 2 features a lot of dynamic ... features. The lighting affects every single polygon of the texture's and model's bump mapping;this though, is not really noticeable unless you look hard..but it''s there. Now lighting has been done before, but here i got some things that havent. Dynamic water, blood physics allows for realistic water movement and liquids are affected by wind and tiny reactions; This makes waves in the water that collide with eachother and display the reflection (which is good) in a realistic fashion. Then we have the destructible enviroments and dismemberment, you can now destruct `pilars and cover that then produces a realistic destruction (again, more calculus) and physics for every individual piece of wall. This also aplies to every character member and INTERIOR ORGANS, which sometimes go off the body..so you can have 12 enemies on screen with AI, but also 45 pieces of locust each with it's individual physics (this shows alot in horde). Now, the enemy AI is better in Resistance 2. In resistance 2 they run and take cover, and do challenging tactics. This is multiplied by the fact that it can handle up to 20-25 enemies on screen. In gears 2 horde technology allows for up to 15 (or atleast that's the highest amopunt ive seen) enemies on screen. The particle effects in both are outstanding, and both have great textures but the edge gos to gears 2 with it's high res txtureso n buildings even far away in the background. Also, both games run pretty smooth, which is an achievement for both consoles, but, here it comes, specially...Gears 2.

Now, after playing both, i can say resistance 2 just feels more 'static'. Sure , it has a lot more enemies on screen with individual AI, but a lot of processing power is needed for all the tiny details on Gears of War, a lot of tiny details that not many people seem to realise that even exist.

man i hope this wall o' text is noticed by someone :P. If yo read it all you win a free internetz :)

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] If it had been for best graphics (technical) then I would say yes, that nomination carries some weight. Seeing as the nomination has nothing to do with visuals, artistic or technical, it doesn't mean anything in this debate.GreenGoblin2099

Well, I see your point, but since your problem is that I bashed the sales comment let's put it this way:

"oh so now a nomination determines a game is technically better??"

"oh so now sales determine a game is technically better??"

What makes more sense to you??

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]No one refuted that. Why?? because he was defending Halo while I'm "talking bad" about GeoW2?? Bias will always exist and even if I did what you want, I bet any one can refute my pic, so as I don't gain anything, why even bother???

And no, that's not humilliation right there. You said you were going to believe me and believing me is accepting what I said, therefore saying that R2 is better than GeoW.

Verge_6

Naysayers like yourself will always be there. Like I said, even if I do post this proof you want people can always say it's fake, next they'll ask for a video, and if I do post a video they can come up with any other BS resposnse on why they don't want to take my word. Not something that worries me though.

Anyway, this is not going anywhere and trust me, contrary to popular belief, people on the internet have friends and I'm one of those. ;)

Anyway, this is not going anywhere and trust me, contrary to popular belief, people on the internet have friends and I'm one of those. ;)

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Well, I see your point, but since your problem is that I bashed the sales comment let's put it this way:

"oh so now a nomination determines a game is technically better??"

"oh so now sales determine a game is technically better??"

What makes more sense to you??

The_Game21x

Probably not the right question.... what's a better question to bash someone comment??

"oh so now a nomination determines a game is technically better??" Yes, as a matter of fact a nomination can determine something is better than other stuff. Ideologically, you're going to nominate whatever is best for that category, not otherwise. IF this is not the case here, still is a harder thing to refute simply because of the "idea" behind nominations.

"oh so now sales determine a game is technically better??" Nope, sales are influenced but not necessarily determines something is better. An easier thing to refute.

it seems that Halo 3 is a much more grand-scale game with a lot more going on and better physics. Halo also seems to have better artistic value and better colors, which seem to give it a better overall appearance than Gears 2. Gears 2 seems like a good game, but Halo 3 just seems technically superior.

Opinions?

Baurus_1

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]Anyway, this is not going anywhere and trust me, contrary to popular belief, people on the internet have friends and I'm one of those. ;)

Verge_6

I know. You wanted that proof to show everybody that I played GeoW2 so I have a word on this matter, because it's questionable what I was saying simply because I'm not the owner of the game. True, I agree. It's questionable and if people believes me or not, I don't care.

I thought I made that clear a few posts ago.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]R2 is more superior TECHNICALLY...its less linear, bigger bosses, more stuff going on, on screen...60 players online, etc. 1 thing i really liked about resistance was the feeling of being in a real war, i was surprised. Character detail is also more better, imo. Gears 2 just wins in textures..and overall a better storyline. McdonaIdsGuy

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]Anyway, this is not going anywhere and trust me, contrary to popular belief, people on the internet have friends and I'm one of those. ;)

GreenGoblin2099

I know. You wanted that proof to show everybody that I played GeoW2 so I have a word on this matter, because it's questionable what I was saying simply because I'm not the owner of the game. True, I agree. It's questionable and if people believes me or not, I don't care.

I thought I made that clear a few posts ago.

it seems that Halo 3 is a much more grand-scale game with a lot more going on and better physics. Halo also seems to have better artistic value and better colors, which seem to give it a better overall appearance than Gears 2. Gears 2 seems like a good game, but Halo 3 just seems technically superior.

Opinions?

[QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

it seems that Halo 3 is a much more grand-scale game with a lot more going on and better physics. Halo also seems to have better artistic value and better colors, which seem to give it a better overall appearance than Gears 2. Gears 2 seems like a good game, but Halo 3 just seems technically superior.

Opinions?

longshotgir

I simply brought up Halo because a friend and I were making the same comparison to gears recently.

Also, why are Resistance and Gears always compared, when Resistance and Halo are actually much more similar.

I said I could but I don't see any gain here. It's too much trouble to drive my car through tomorrows traffic to get over my friend's, JUST to get a "ok I believe you now". Now trust me, I have this friend and everything I said.

If you chose to believe GeoW2 is better than R2 so be it, I don't care either. It's not like I made R2 or that it will kill me to say something else is better than this game.

In fact, I'll let you in a not-so-secret as I've said this many times before: I like the original Rsistance better. And you won't be seeing me claiming RFoM is better than GeoW2 ;)

Honestly, what would you rather play?

This?

Or this?

I said I could but I don't see any gain here. It's too much trouble to drive my car through tomorrows traffic to get over my friend's, JUST to get a "ok I believe you now". Now trust me, I have this friend and everything I said.

If you chose to believe GeoW2 is better than R2 so be it, I don't care either. It's not like I made R2 or that it will kill me to say something else is better than this game.

In fact, I'll let you in a not-so-secret as I've said this many times before: I like the original Rsistance better. And you won't be seeing me claiming RFoM is better than GeoW2 ;)

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="Fumpa"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Yes, Resistance 2 is superior, as shown by the fact that it is a GOTY nomineee, while Gears 2 is not.GreenGoblin2099

So now technical quality is determined on the number of sales??? wow!! lemmings are amusing people :lol:

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

I said I could but I don't see any gain here. It's too much trouble to drive my car through tomorrows traffic to get over my friend's, JUST to get a "ok I believe you now". Now trust me, I have this friend and everything I said.

If you chose to believe GeoW2 is better than R2 so be it, I don't care either. It's not like I made R2 or that it will kill me to say something else is better than this game.

In fact, I'll let you in a not-so-secret as I've said this many times before: I like the original Rsistance better. And you won't be seeing me claiming RFoM is better than GeoW2 ;)

AdmiralDan

Nope those are not the only aspects, more of a reason on why R2 is better than GeoW2, since R2 got nominated and GeoW2 didn't lolololololololol

Thanx mate you made it sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy. Man you don't know how hard I'm laughing here :lol:

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Fumpa"] Actually it's quite obvious that Gears 2 is better because it has sold more copies than Resistance 2.SeanBond

So now technical quality is determined on the number of sales??? wow!! lemmings are amusing people :lol:

Yes, indeed. Clever :D

I haven't played either game, but from the videos I have seen on the internet, it seems that Resistance 2 is a much more grand-scale game with a lot more going on and better physics. Resistance also seems to have better artistic value and better colors, which seem to give it a better overall appearance than Gears 2. Gears 2 seems like a good game, but Resistance 2 just seems technically superior.

Opinions?

Baurus_1

No, definitely not.

Yes, Resistance 2 is superior, as shown by the fact that it is a GOTY nomineee, while Gears 2 is not.EVOLV3

Honestly, what would you rather play?

Baurus_1

Looking at reviews and sales, obviously most people would rather player Gears.

[QUOTE="Fumpa"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Yes, Resistance 2 is superior, as shown by the fact that it is a GOTY nomineee, while Gears 2 is not.bez2083

So if Britney Spears outsells The Beatles, she then becomes superior?! If I had shoes on, I'd throw them at you.

What a surprise, sony fanboys blowing yet another game out the water with lies.

Someone get in here and show me a video of "hundreds of people" on screen at once. Do it. Isn't going to happen cause it doesn't exist, no more than gears 2 "hundreds on screen does".

Besides, technically superior? Who cares, R2 doesn't have any moments as Epic as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ialrYDx2qlw

What a surprise, sony fanboys blowing yet another game out the water with lies.

Someone get in here and show me a video of "hundreds of people" on screen at once. Do it. Isn't going to happen cause it doesn't exist, no more than gears 2 "hundreds on screen does".

Besides, technically superior? Who cares, R2 doesn't have any moments as Epic as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ialrYDx2qlw

CreepyBacon

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Errr, heck no. Gears 2 is so much more technically superior that it's not even funny. I own and have played/completed both.

nVidiaGaMer

However 60 players and 60fps is not something that Gears 2 can do even if they were to lower the graphics.

hahah you've obviously havent heard about the gears engine the game was mad specificly to run at 60 fps with over 100 enimies plus everything going on on screen.. google it theres videos on it.. better yet youtube it.. its on there. also go play horde