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Poll Is Sony becoming the bad guy of gaming? (133 votes)

Yes, Sony is getting too cocky and it shows. 49%
No, it's only a vocal minority who are hating. 51%

First Sony received criticism for its lack of backwards compatibility, even though they provided true BC for the PS3 when it first came out. By true, I mean it actually had the hardware for you to play previous gen games. None of this downloading stuff. Now gamers are getting upset with Sony about locking cross play for its users, even though most console gamers own a PS4 and have plenty of people to play with already. What do you think is next, SW? Do you think Sony will botch up the PS5 reveal and resort to their old ways? Are they becoming the bad guy of gaming? Or are they still the fan favorite for gamers?

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#1 Dark_man123
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Only 1 PS3 Model was backwards compatible to my Knowledge but to answer your question no I don't believe they are becoming anything and the PS5 will do great.

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#2 lundy86_4
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No. Blame shifts consistently.

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#3 Pedro
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No. But it seems as if the people who complain about the people who complain about Sony blocking crossplay is making a bigger deal about it than everyone else.

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#4 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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its the vocal minority

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#5 Ant_17
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Nope.

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#6 DaVillain  Moderator
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More like, the Big 3 are becoming the real bad guys of gaming itself.

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#7 Ant_17
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@davillain- said:

More like, the Big 3 are becoming the real bad guys of gaming itself.

So...the lesser of 3 evils?

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#8 nintendoboy16
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They sure as hell need to be taken to higher scrutiny. To think, the PlayStation was founded off of practically corporate and gamer rebellion and now, they become what they were sworn against.

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#9 mazuiface
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Only on this forum.

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#10  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Ant_17 said:

So...the lesser of 3 evils?

I wouldn't go that far to say the big 3 are all evil. But they sure have one thing in common, making money whatever it takes and charging gamers to play online is just bad enough.

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#11 Dr_Vancouver
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Sony not allowing cross play seems to mostly bother people who don't own PS4's on these forums. I couldn't care less. Although it was a great feature for FFXIV w/ PC, for truly competitive games online I understand their hesitance. As for BC, I own PS3, PS2 and PS all still working in fine order so whatever. Aside from those points IMO they're killing it this gen.

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#12 Ant_17
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@davillain- said:
@Ant_17 said:

So...the lesser of 3 evils?

I wouldn't go that far to say the big 3 are all evil. But they sure have one thing in common, making money whatever it takes and charging gamers to play online is just bad enough.

It depends where you draw the line of ok and not good, but in general, their main goal is cash, in large sums.

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I would rather have blocked crossplay than mandatory online checks *and* blocked crossplay, bc let's be honest, MS would absolutely continue blocking crossplay if they were still very competitive with Sony.

btw, no one is "the bad guy" in gaming.

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#14 deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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I'm getting some serious deja vu feelings. Sony is getting back closer and closer to their PS3 launch era of arrogance and anti-consumer attitude. Meanwhile, Microsoft has been very pro-consumer lately and has been working hard to improve the Xbox experience in multiple ways and fix all of the things that their consumers were previously dissatisfied with. And Nintendo is finding success again with their latest innovative idea that differentiates them from the rest.

Does all of this sound familiar? It's starting to feel like 2006 all over again. History tends to repeat itself and given that all 3 companies are starting to act like they were leading up to the launch of the 7th generation again, I'm expecting the Switch to continue to be successful, Microsoft to make a comeback when they launch their next console, and for Sony to be a victim of their own arrogance again when they launch the PS5 just like when they launched the PS3.

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#15  Edited By Archangel3371
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I don’t think that I’d characterize them as such however they are rebuking some pro consumer aspects that are currently happening in gaming that other companies are embracing. Could they botch up the transition to their next gen platform? It is most certainly possible. When companies gain a lead they tend to get comfortable and arrogant.

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#16 mazuiface
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

I would rather have blocked crossplay than mandatory online checks *and* blocked crossplay, bc let's be honest, MS would absolutely continue blocking crossplay if they were still very competitive with Sony.

btw, no one is "the bad guy" in gaming.

Technically they are all the "bad guy" because at the end of the day, they just want your money. MS has found out how to do this without releasing very many games, buying and asset stripping studios - and Sony is using a somewhat underhanded method to stay at the top with online.

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#17 Shewgenja
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PSN:

The gaming network so good, Live users beg to access it.

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#18 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Well all the "4thagamerz" thing is pretty much dead, outside fanboys. But I don't think they're evil, just cocky. We'll see how things go next gen.

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#19  Edited By sakaiXx
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Bought my first Ps2 Classics on ps4 yesterday. ****'s sake sony could have easily do BC ps2 games we bought on ps3 to ps4 but no, they had to lock that feature and instead ask us to buy again on ps4. Rogue galaxy sucks ass on ps4, nothing had been done to the game like smoothing the texture, widescreen support or anything like better frame rate. Just trophy support.

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#20 Jacanuk
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LOL is Sony becoming the bad guy

No, Sony is not and come on TS , is this really the best you can do.

It´s clear that Sony is faced with a vocal minority who does not like the leading console manufacturer, no matter who it is, last gen it was MS this gen its Sony, next gen it may be MS again.

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#21 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Sony and Microsoft are always heels.

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@Shewgenja: You really think that if crossplay happens us Xbox owners want to downgrade to play on a shittier network, LOL you cows are dreaming.

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#23 BenjaminBanklin
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There are no heroes in the corporate world. They're the bad guys to people who want them to make awful business decisions so they can give up their share of the market because they don't want to buy their products. The beauty of the industry is that there are choices. And if you feel what Sony does isn't right for you, then go with another. This is how capitalism should work. Demanding they bend to you as a non-customer is kinda dumb.

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#24 Needhealing
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Honestly no one outside of these forums and nerds care about cross play. None of my friends have said "omg I hate Sony want cross play" nobody except some lemmings care about it because since the ps4 is outselling the xbox one they are trying to make fake news. Sony doesn't care they are wiping the floor with the xflop 1.

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#25 Telekill
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The only people making them out to be the bad guys are fanboys.

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#26  Edited By OldSchool_Chase
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They have been the bad guy since PS2 vs Dreamcast. XD

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#27 Heil68
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Crossplay(lol)

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#28 LuxuryHeart
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No. Cross play isn't a big deal. I remember a poll on another site about cross play on the Switch, and almost half of them did not care. Part of the ones who did care don't even use it, but support it because they believe every game should have it. Take in mind, this was on a forum. I don't even think most Xbox gamers in real life care about cross play, it's only the people on forums.

The only thing Sony really fucked up with is the account locking because that was some straight up bullshit.

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#29  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Heil68 said:

Crossplay(lol)

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#30 dantesergei
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@Ant_17 said:
@davillain- said:

More like, the Big 3 are becoming the real bad guys of gaming itself.

So...the lesser of 3 evils?

“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”

Could not resist.

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#32 Chutebox
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No lol....this isn't a stinking sport. If they were disliked they wouldn't constantly be top selling

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#33 hrt_rulz01
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@Pedro said:

No. But it seems as if the people who complain about the people who complain about Sony blocking crossplay is making a bigger deal about it than everyone else.

Very true.

They aren't "the bad guy" of gaming, but I think we are definitely seeing glimpses of the old cocky/arrogant/complacent Sony we've seen before.

@needhealing said:

Honestly no one outside of these forums and nerds care about cross play. None of my friends have said "omg I hate Sony want cross play" nobody except some lemmings care about it because since the ps4 is outselling the xbox one they are trying to make fake news. Sony doesn't care they are wiping the floor with the xflop 1.

That's bullsh*t... there'd be plenty of gamers (casual & hardcore) who would want it.

As Phil Spencer said during an interview at E3, there would be countless younger gamers who would want to play with their friends but own different consoles, so they can't. To me, that epitomises why we need X-play. It's not about Xbox or Nintendo gamers wanting access to PSN or whatever bullsh*t cows spew out, it's about friends/family being able to play together without having to own the same device.

If you don't think that's a big deal, then you need to open your eyes and think about what's best for the industry, not your corporate overlords.

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#34 asylumni
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@storm_of_swords said:

I'm getting some serious deja vu feelings. Sony is getting back closer and closer to their PS3 launch era of arrogance and anti-consumer attitude.

If Sony selling a console for about $300 less than it costs them to make and ship while providing free online gaming and many great exclusives and extensive backwards compatibility is your idea of arrogance and anti-consumer behavior, then I've got no problem with that. Sign me up.

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#35 darkRecon6Opt
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Funny how they tried to copyright "let's play" but that quickly forgotten

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#36 mojito1988
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Considering that Sony as an entire company was damn near bankrupt a few years back, there is little reason to get too cocky lol.

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#37 sovkhan
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Because of CP?!?

Must be some kind of silly joke, can't be otherwise ^^

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Why is the only people that seem to care about cross-play are Xbox/Nintendo fanboys? You never see any PS4 users complaining about the lack of cross-play. Maybe it's because no one actually gives a shit about it and the only reason Xbox/Nintendo fanboys cry over it is to try and make Sony out to be the bad guy because PS4 is outselling Xbone, Switch and WiiU combined?

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#39  Edited By Shewgenja
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@i_p_daily: Dude, take a look at any of the 50 crossplay threads. Y'all don't just sort of want to, its like a morally obligated civil right and shit. Lol

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#40 Jag85
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Sony has been the bad guy of gaming since the PS1 days.

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Besides the "pay to play online" bs none of their other decisions have impacted me in the slightest. I dont give a cr4p about mods or cross play cause all my friends play on PS4s. Its a vocal minority... like all the other examples of gamers whining for everything not really important while keeping quiet for the things that actually matter

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#42  Edited By cainetao11
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Hard to stay "consumer first" when all is going in your pocket. This is why competition is always needed in industry. No matter how great someone sees something as, there is another that doesn't care for it and prefers different.

And LMAO at "none of this downloading stuff" HAHAHA Sure beats streaming it and paying. For the players!!!

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Why is the only people that seem to care about cross-play are Xbox/Nintendo fanboys? You never see any PS4 users complaining about the lack of cross-play. Maybe it's because no one actually gives a shit about it and the only reason Xbox/Nintendo fanboys cry over it is to try and make Sony out to be the bad guy because PS4 is outselling Xbone, Switch and WiiU combined?

On Reddit there are plenty of PS4 owners clamoring for it. Guys like Greg Miller aren't lying. Leave SW for a while, there's more out there.

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#44 Heil68
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Why is the only people that seem to care about cross-play are Xbox/Nintendo fanboys? You never see any PS4 users complaining about the lack of cross-play. Maybe it's because no one actually gives a shit about it and the only reason Xbox/Nintendo fanboys cry over it is to try and make Sony out to be the bad guy because PS4 is outselling Xbone, Switch and WiiU combined?

Well when you are world wide sales, excluive and face of modern gaming, people try to tear you done.

Real shame, really.

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#45 pyro1245
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Nah.... The worst they do is secure exclusive deals that ends up with good games running at low frame rates.

No, companies like EA and Activision will always be the bad guys. They have no respect for their customers nor their games. They will do anything to make all the money even if it means destroying every IP and dev studio they own. Real scum, those guys.

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#46 EG101
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Sony has always been the bad guy in gaming. Hell they forced electronics stores like Circuit City to not sell Sega and Atari Consoles by delaying delivery of the newest TV's to stores that sold them.

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#47  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Why is the only people that seem to care about cross-play are Xbox/Nintendo fanboys? You never see any PS4 users complaining about the lack of cross-play. Maybe it's because no one actually gives a shit about it and the only reason Xbox/Nintendo fanboys cry over it is to try and make Sony out to be the bad guy because PS4 is outselling Xbone, Switch and WiiU combined?

Why are the only people that don't seem to care, PS fannies like you and the other cows on here? Hmmm.

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#48 Planeforger
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@needhealing: No, that is definitely not true.

I have a bunch of friends on PS4 who are disappointed that they can't play Rocket League or Fortnight with everyone else. In Rocket League's case, those friends re-bought the game on other platforms.

Personally, I would like to play something like Gwent on both my PC and PS4, but Sony won't allow sharing my progress onto the PS4 - so I don't bother with the PS4 version at all.

Hell, I cancelled my PS+ subscription because I just don't see the point of playing PS4 versions of online games.

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@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Dude, take a look at any of the 50 crossplay threads. Y'all don't just sort of want to, its like a morally obligated civil right and shit. Lol

Don't get confused moogenja, people might want crossplay (gamers from all sides) but in no way does anyone want to play crossplay using the PSN. For us Xbox owners that would be like going from living in a mansion to sleeping under a bridge, no thank you.

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#50  Edited By MonsieurX
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When were they the good guys?