Is Sony, in terms of PlayStation, going downhill?

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Poll Is Sony, in terms of PlayStation, going downhill? (70 votes)

Undoubtedly, yes. It's like Sony has a checklist of bad decisions, and is checking every box, one after the other. 53%
Maybe. Give it time. They may recover from whatever plague of irrationality has presently overtaken them. 36%
No. They are amazing. I love their poor decisions. It gives me a fuzzy feeling. 11%

I mean, right? There are like no new IPs, practically. No announcements, or at least nothing worthwhile. PSVR2 is getting some good 3rd party and indie games, ports and whatnot, and that's cool, but otherwise, Sony is doing practically nothing with it. Remakes, remasters, blah blah blah. Raising prices all over the damn place. And Portal, because.....why, again? The PS5 Slim is expensive af, and the digital edition is getting jacked up in price. Like, huh?

I'm sure there's more. But suffice to say,

WTF Sony?

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#51 Last_Lap
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@ghostofgolden: Lems joined a cult? This coming from a guy who's posts towards gamepass reads like that of someone from a cult lol.

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#52 BenjaminBanklin
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@saint-george said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

In sales? LOL, no. In content? Only time will tell

Console sales *🫴🍆Tug,Tug,Tug*

I understand, if I owned a console that was getting outsold 9 to 1 in some countries, I'd be this salty too

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#53 mariokart64fan
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Sony just wants to beat thier chest that's what they do when thier crap outsells Microsofts stuff just the reason I don't own a ps5 is because the price isn't right for what it offers

There is not enough exclusive games to warrant 500 oh and now with multi-player costing 80 a year I see no reason to buy one

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#54 NNoyingHusband
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RGT85 made a video today asking what’s going on at Sony and ReviewTechUSA has made several videos lately about Sony. Not good when bigger channels start to question what’s happening.

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#55 GhostOfGolden
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@last_lap said:

@ghostofgolden: Lems joined a cult? This coming from a guy who's posts towards gamepass reads like that of someone from a cult lol.

I don’t think you know what a cult is.

A large group of people who welcome misinformation for a sense of community and cheer for a mega corporation for a sense of worth and purpose is a cult. A lone person who actually reads stories, looks at the charts/graphs presented and uses critical thought isn’t a cult.

Y’all got trolled by RonBot and have been in shambles ever since. Now yall are on this board trying to equate Capcom license revenue as a win for Game Pass. Its bonkers

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#56  Edited By Star67
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@nnoyinghusband: I think this narrative is being a bit overblown

Helldivers 2, ff7 rebirth, and Rise of Ronin are all coming out in 2024 for the PS5

And I'm sure more stuff will be announced, and there's always 3rd party games to fill in gaps

How many games do people need? Not everyone plays games 24/7 like some do on this site apparently.

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#57 Pedro
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it is always entertaining to read the third generation alt insane conspiracy theories that are always detached from reality.

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#58 Randy_Lahey
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God damn this forum is overrun by pathetic Xbox fannies

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#59 Star67
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@randy_lahey: Dude I don't know what the hell is going on.

Starfield, and then Spiderman 2 came out and it's been absolutely insane with the amount of lemmings on the board.

I don't get it, it's like they are in full panic after Phill admitted MS lost the console war and in no way can compete.

I feel like I remember Sega fans being like this when the dreamcast was discontinued.... but they went away

I feel like Lems will stick around and claim Gamepass as their system lol

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#60  Edited By lundy86_4
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@randy_lahey said:

God damn this forum is overrun by pathetic Xbox fannies

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#61 Star67
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@lundy86_4: Phill admitted he lost the console wars.........why do you still like him? Shouldn't you like hate him or something?

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#62  Edited By Archangel3371
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Cows aren’t handling this well at all. Now they think that there’s nothing but Lems here. Someone get a Cow support group started stat. They need their echo chamber. 🤣🤣🤣

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@ghostofgolden: First of you can't put me into the same category as the lems who think GP is great. I can and do call them out, just like I do you.

The reason I said you act cult like is because a cult is one that is against others who don't believe what they believe, which is you to a tea. You are the leader of the anti GP gospel.

Cults are also not defined by size. There are cults of millions and cults of mere dozens and even less.

Let's not forget that you have lost your account over GP, that's how toxic it has gotten.

And yes there is cult like behaviour from some lems towards GP, and some in jest, but yours is also cult like.

The problem is that it's gotten so bad that you are now on a crusade against gamepass and lems that it's totally consumed you that the vast majority of your posts are about GP and lems, it's unhealthy.

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#64 lundy86_4
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@Star67 said:

@lundy86_4: Phill admitted he lost the console wars.........why do you still like him? Shouldn't you like hate him or something?

'Twas a joke.

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#65 sealionact
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@randy_lahey: “ God damn this forum is overrun by pathetic Xbox fannies”

Well, they’re not making bets they don’t honour at least…..now that would be truly pathetic.

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#66  Edited By Antwan3K
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the fact that this is even a trending topic is evidence enough that PlayStation has made some missteps..

they'll be okay though.. they have a stranglehold on the home console market so they can afford to have a few hiccups..

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#68 lundy86_4
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@randy_lahey said:

@sealionact: hey fucknut I’ve already sorted it with dabear. Stop crying

Someone's not happy about that.

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#69 deactivated-65dd04f21decf
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Lol, I'm a lemming now?

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#70 Archangel3371
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Angry alt boy is angry. Yikes! 😂

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#71  Edited By deactivated-65dd04f21decf
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Lol, I'm angry now? Or was that somebody else.

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#72  Edited By lundy86_4
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@nod_calypse: Think it's meant for Randy.

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#73  Edited By Archangel3371
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@nod_calypse: Meant for Randy.

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#74 deactivated-65dd04f21decf
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@Archangel3371: @lundy86_4: Oh, my bad. Just passively following what's going on in here. Bit of a shitshow.

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#75 lundy86_4
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@nod_calypse: TBH, no idea what the hell's going on myself.

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#76 nintendoboy16
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I know I haven't been too interested since PS3. Besides Spider-Man and Uncharted, but besides that?

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@lundy86_4: Definitely a headscratcher.

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#78 omegaMaster
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PS5 is doing well enough. You don't need to worry about them.

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#79 nintendoboy16
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@nnoyinghusband said:

RGT85 made a video today asking what’s going on at Sony and ReviewTechUSA has made several videos lately about Sony. Not good when bigger channels start to question what’s happening.

To be fair, those two are as grifty as various political channels, on both sides.

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#80 VatususReturns
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As an old time PS fan, yeah, Sony has been very naughty lately. I really wasnt liking the way Sony was going. Their arrogance and anti-consumer strategies made me remember the "599 US dollars" PS3 era Sony.

However, now that Jim Ryan will be stepping down, I'm hopping we'll get the late PS3/early PS4 days Sony again...

at least, I hope...

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#81 hardwenzen
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@vatususreturns said:

As an old time PS fan, yeah, Sony has been very naughty lately. I really wasnt liking the way Sony was going. Their arrogance and anti-consumer strategies made me remember the "599 US dollars" PS3 era Sony.

However, now that Jim Ryan will be stepping down, I'm hopping we'll get the late PS3/early PS4 days Sony again...

at least, I hope...

And even IF it happens, this might only be appartent by the end of this generation, so we're boned no matter what.

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#82  Edited By SargentD
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I dunno maybe. I think thier 1st party trash, all of them 3rd person movie games for the most part.

People like them movie games tho, people still buy em, so I don't think they are doomed, I just think they are super lame now.

Even Xbox has more variety in thier games, Nintendo kind of embarrassing both Sony and Microsoft right now, putting out good games on thier old ass hardware. Probably because Nintendo dgaf about graffics and just needs the games to be fun

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#83  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@last_lap said:

@ghostofgolden: First of you can't put me into the same category as the lems who think GP is great. I can and do call them out, just like I do you.

The reason I said you act cult like is because a cult is one that is against others who don't believe what they believe, which is you to a tea. You are the leader of the anti GP gospel.

Cults are also not defined by size. There are cults of millions and cults of mere dozens and even less.

Let's not forget that you have lost your account over GP, that's how toxic it has gotten.

And yes there is cult like behaviour from some lems towards GP, and some in jest, but yours is also cult like.

The problem is that it's gotten so bad that you are now on a crusade against gamepass and lems that it's totally consumed you that the vast majority of your posts are about GP and lems, it's unhealthy.

1 - The pandemic saved Antwan in our bet.

2 - My "crusade" against Game Pass is based on it being bad for the industry. It's a numbers game just like it is in movie/music streaming. We are going to lose content overall. We have Lems praising Capcom gaining license revenue while multiple developers are telling you they've seen no royalties. The payout structure has been exposed and it favors the AAA devs. And it gives the publishers all of the leverage with revenue/payouts. You're gonna see first hand with the Starfield vs Mario vs Spider-Man NPD results. There's gonna be no more guesswork required. The Xbox model is bad for business. And it doesn't need to be this way. Xbox has the deepest pockets. They didn't need to play the "value" card. They are trying to disrupt the market because they have failed at everything else

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#84 LuxuryHeart
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Tbh, I'm done with Sony. So they're downhill for me tbh. Though I don't think they'll ever truly flop, as far as home consoles go. The PS3 alone proves that. Though the Vita shows that they should leave the handheld market alone.

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#85  Edited By Last_Lap
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@ghostofgolden said:
@last_lap said:

@ghostofgolden: First of you can't put me into the same category as the lems who think GP is great. I can and do call them out, just like I do you.

The reason I said you act cult like is because a cult is one that is against others who don't believe what they believe, which is you to a tea. You are the leader of the anti GP gospel.

Cults are also not defined by size. There are cults of millions and cults of mere dozens and even less.

Let's not forget that you have lost your account over GP, that's how toxic it has gotten.

And yes there is cult like behaviour from some lems towards GP, and some in jest, but yours is also cult like.

The problem is that it's gotten so bad that you are now on a crusade against gamepass and lems that it's totally consumed you that the vast majority of your posts are about GP and lems, it's unhealthy.

1 - The pandemic saved Antwan in our bet.

2 - My "crusade" against Game Pass is based on it being bad for the industry. It's a numbers game just like it is in movie/music streaming. We are going to lose content overall. We have Lems praising Capcom gaining license revenue while multiple developers are telling you they've seen no royalties. The payout structure has been exposed and it favors the AAA devs. And it gives the publishers all of the leverage with revenue/payouts. You're gonna see first hand with the Starfield vs Mario vs Spider-Man NPD results. There's gonna be no more guesswork required. The Xbox model is bad for business. And it doesn't need to be this way. Xbox has the deepest pockets. They didn't need to play the "value" card. They are trying to disrupt the market because they have failed at everything else

1) Well I wasn't here when the bet went down and know nothing about it other than you lost, so I can't comment on it.

2) Look I think GP is terrible for Xbox, and a lot of people can't see it, however i'm not betting people, arguing, going after an entire fanbase over it. That's ridiculous.

As for the devs not getting money and the pubs taking it, then that's between those 2 to sort out. But we also don't know what conditions a dev & a pub sign on the contract in regard to the terms of revenue etc.

And not sure what you mean by losing content, MS needs content that's why they have been buying up big, not sure how that lessens content.

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#86 pmanden
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@Maroxad: Maroxad's post says it pretty well :

"The playstation is popular, but it seems to be popular because it is popular, rather than any actual merits of the PS5."

I am sure PlayStation will continue for a long time on brand value alone if nothing else. Personally I think the PS4 era was so much better than the PS5 era with titles such as Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Days Gone and Persona 5. Besides suffering from being butt ugly, the PS5 needs something to catch my interest. For now, I am 100% xbox.

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#87 pmanden
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@ghostofgolden:Nice to see a fellow gamer who agrees with me that the Dreamcast was superior to PS2. The latter was overrated as hell.

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#88 neogeo2k2
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I’m not sure why Xbox keeps coming up on this post. This is about PS5.

I love my PS5, but I wouldn’t mind if they went 3rd party and out cold.

I swear you playstation fans are the worst of the worst. And to sacrifice my favorite system just to see you all slowly disappear would be fantastic.

I don’t have nor do I care about getting an xbox. But I don’t spend all day thinking, and talking Xbox. Nope, I just sit back and play my games.

But before they do, bring out the next GOW please or at least a DLC

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#89 UItravioIence
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@neogeo2k2: but just 3 months ago, you said you owned an Xbox 🤔

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/should-i-buy-an-xbox-series-console-33606808

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#90  Edited By Litchie
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@Maroxad said:

As someone who does not enjoy Sony First Party, my answer is... probably not.

As long as Sony gets third party support, they will continue to do really well for themselves. However, I don't think Naughty Dog will remain relevant for much longer. I said it before and I say it again, Naughty Dog lost its talent.

The playstation is popular, but it seems to be popular because it is popular, rather than any actual merits of the PS5. The PS5 is where your friends are, it is a familiar brand, all in all it tracks well with consumer habits and the effectiveness of franchising. Third party releases will always give gamers something to do. But is this sustainable? Not really. If MS decides to crank out their games, MS can easily take the wind off Sony's back. when they announce the Series Next. All they need to do is make one mistake for Microsoft to capitalize on.

Came here to say exactly this, but with dumber words.

They'll be around, but they'll continue to be boring. The PS has been the FIFA/CoD box for years. The bro gamer's choice. Them being so sweaty about acquiring Bungie was most likely a desperate attempt to fill the void left by CoD. We'll see how that works out.

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#91  Edited By Saint-George
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@saint-george said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

In sales? LOL, no. In content? Only time will tell

Console sales *🫴🍆Tug,Tug,Tug*

I understand, if I owned a console that was getting outsold 9 to 1 in some countries, I'd be this salty too

Sorry to kill your wanking material but PS biggest,most popular and best selling games are Xbox studios COD and Minecraft.

Meaning xbox games are driving PS sales and PS gamers are paying MS millions upon millions 🤣😂

Reality bites!

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#92  Edited By SecretPolice
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Poo bovine brigade. Getting rekt left and right. lol :P

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#93  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@saint-george said:

Console sales *🫴🍆Tug,Tug,Tug*

I'd be this salty too

Why would you be salty? How would that impact you?

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#94  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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Heck ya it is going downhill.

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#95 Mickeyminime
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I think the PS5 is far better and more entertaining than the XB, however, during the past few years +, Sony have made awful choices, specially with the slim and the price increase which currently has nothing to offer. However, the games still continue to be amazing.

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#96 Pedro
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The majority agrees.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#97  Edited By hardwenzen
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Well, at least my fellow cows are not too delusional and see sony for what they are. Not only are they going downhill, they're flying downhill with a jetpack strapped on their back. And the worst part of it all, my main worry is that they haven't even began developing singelplayer games they're known for, and instead, all studios are working or planning to release some kind of a dogshit Destiny wannabe aka a live service shitfest. Imagine for a second if this is the case. Holy shit. This would be such a massive cows migration to pc gaming that hermits aren't ready to receive us.

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#98 ENI232
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Yeah if they don't create any video games they are. That's the whole purpose of the console.

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@hardwenzen said:

Well, at least my fellow cows are not too delusional and see sony for what they are. Not only are they going downhill, they're flying downhill with a jetpack strapped on their back. And the worst part of it all, my main worry is that they haven't even began developing singelplayer games they're known for, and instead, all studios are working or planning to release some kind of a dogshit Destiny wannabe aka a live service shitfest. Imagine for a second if this is the case. Holy shit. This would be such a massive cows migration to pc gaming that hermits aren't ready to receive us.

A moment of clarity.... Must feel good!

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#100  Edited By SargentD
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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

Well, at least my fellow cows are not too delusional and see sony for what they are. Not only are they going downhill, they're flying downhill with a jetpack strapped on their back. And the worst part of it all, my main worry is that they haven't even began developing singelplayer games they're known for, and instead, all studios are working or planning to release some kind of a dogshit Destiny wannabe aka a live service shitfest. Imagine for a second if this is the case. Holy shit. This would be such a massive cows migration to pc gaming that hermits aren't ready to receive us.

A moment of clarity.... Must feel good!

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