Is Super Smash Brothers Brawl a Fighting game?

Thought I would try and stray away from all the U2 and ODST threads and do something different.

Anyway, some pretty big discussions go around the board on if Brawl is a fighter or not...Yes I know it is ridiculous. People go as far as to make up random genres like, Party Fighter. I thought it was a simply a fighter just because you choose characters and you know what you do after that? You fight. Then people say thing like, It doesn't play like a normal fighter, You use Items (may i add you use those items to fight with), yada yada yada. What do you think.

Is SSBB a fighting game!

It is a fighting game but with a different style is all.

It's a fighting game. One that I enjoy and find much less frustrating then traditional fighting games, mind you.

Brawl's a fighter, just not a one-on-one fighter.

What else would it be if it isn't fighting?

Brawl's a fighter, just not a one-on-one fighter.

Shad0ki11

Except for the fact that you can fght one-on-one if you feel like it.

What else would it be if it isn't fighting?

Shy_Guy_Red

Usually people will make up genres for it :? I have heard someone once call it a Brawler...?

Of course its a fighter, who honestly says otherwise.

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

Yes it is, i don't see in what other genre can it fit.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Brawl's a fighter, just not a one-on-one fighter.

treedoor

Except for the fact that you can fght one-on-one if you feel like it.

True. I meant as opposed to one-on-one only.

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

TheElfChild

^^^ See I wasn't the one who made up the Party Fighting thing. People acctually come up with this stuff.

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

TheElfChild

a party fighting game? you know you can turn those "party things" off right?

and how does it suck compared to melee if it was basically the same game with WAAAAAAYY more characters/stages/items/content?

I :( at your opinion

err, multiplayer is but TBH SIngle player was more of a beatem up/ side scrolling platformer then anything...

Brawls is one of those things that put into different catagories because some people cannot rationally argue it to not be a fighter, but can't stand it to be a fighter, so give it a sub genre as if that somehow makes it not a fighter. It happens to all kinds of media. Are comic books books? Are CGI movies really movies? It goes the other way too. Have you ever seen someone argue that a videogame is more than just a videogame?

I guess Powerstone is considered a "Party Fighter" too, right?

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

Mr_Apple_Soup

a party fighting game? you know you can turn those "party things" off right?

and how does it suck compared to melee if it was basically the same game with WAAAAAAYY more characters/stages/items/content?

I :( at your opinion

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

Mr_Apple_Soup

a party fighting game? you know you can turn those "party things" off right?

and how does it suck compared to melee if it was basically the same game with WAAAAAAYY more characters/stages/items/content?

I :( at your opinion

I guess Powerstone is considered a "Party Fighter" too, right?

xYamatox

Yes. The party fighter thing is just a division to dignify the difference between games. To me, you can't compare SSB to SF even if it's just a fighting game. You may think it's kind of stupid but I actually agree with it. The gameplay types just don't seem similar at all.

It is a fighter though.

PS: I'm impressed with the Power Stone refrence. I don't think that game has enough recognition...

It's a fighter. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.

Its a fighter. Abiet a unconventional and extremely accessable one.

At my college I play for fun with Tournament league players. I get murdered EVERY time. I can't survive more than 30 seconds against them.

They punch and throw things to each other so its a figther :|

Yes it is. Recently I've been convinced that it is due to reasons from all over the place.

In the sense of Virtua Fighter 5? Not in the least. Its half way between a full-fledged fighter (VF, SF, MVC2, etc) and zany brawler (like Powerstone). Its neither and both at the same time, doing neither especially well and getting all muddled up in the process.

They punch and throw things to each other so its a figther :|

DealRogers

In the sense of Virtua Fighter 5? Not in the least. Its half way between a full-fledged fighter (VF, SF, MVC2, etc) and zany brawler (like Powerstone). Its neither and both at the same time, doing neither especially well and getting all muddled up in the process.

foxhound_fox

For the record, Smash Brothers is horrendously broken.sonicthemegaman

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]For the record, Smash Brothers is horrendously broken.Dibdibdobdobo

Its not a traditional fighter, but its a fighter nontheless as you still go around beating all up players until either a timer runs out, they run out of lives, etc. Which imo sounds very much still like a fighter as the main point of the game is to fight other players and beat them.

Not only is it a fighting game, its one of, if not the best of them.

Its not a traditional fighter, but its a fighter nontheless as you still go around beating all up players until either a timer runs out, they run out of lives, etc. Which imo sounds very much still like a fighter as the main point of the game is to fight other players and beat them.

St_muscat

Not only is it a fighting game, its one of, if not the best of them.

psn8214

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

It's a Fighting game with random elements like Mario Party, making it a party fighting game.

It sucks compared to Melee.

Mr_Apple_Soup

a party fighting game? you know you can turn those "party things" off right?

and how does it suck compared to melee if it was basically the same game with WAAAAAAYY more characters/stages/items/content?

I :( at your opinion

They punch and throw things to each other so its a figther :|

DealRogers

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]For the record, Smash Brothers is horrendously broken.sonicthemegaman

*comes out of hiding for Brawl thread*

I'm glad the poll shows that SW has a lot more common sense than these threads usually suggest. :)

Another extremely controversial thing that Brawl has is their character roster. It is extremely unbalanced. Meta Knight currently rules this tier list with an iron fist and has no bad match ups against any other character. Falling closely behind is Snake. These two characters pretty much dominate the tournament scene. If I recall corectly, Genesis (Probably the largest Brawl tourney held this year) had results that looked something like Snake, Meta Knight, Meta Knight, Meta Knight, Meta Knight as their top 5, in that order.commonercoffee

Personally, I don't believe this whatsoever (the unbalanced part, not the tourney results, which I completely believe), and I blame the tournament players for the oversaturation. They saw Meta Knight, squealed with glee over his speed and priority, and flocked to him in droves, evolving his metagame way past every other character in the process. After that, why would you take a chance on any other character when you have this already-developed character right there?

I believe Meta Knight is on his way down to Earth in the tier list. Other characters are catching up, and more and more even and potentially positive matchups against MK will be found. One thing Brawl has going for it with regards to character balance is that the mid-tier and lower tiers can compete with the top tiersfar more than in Melee. That, and the game is still evolving. In my opinion, Toon Link will eventually take over the top tier, Snake will plummet, and ROB is awesome. (Wait, that's a fact. :P)

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Not only is it a fighting game, its one of, if not the best of them.

TheElfChild

How so? I enjoyed them both; their only problem is that they become boring over time, at least for me.

First time I ever played in a Brawl Tournament, I beat Metaknight with Lucario, who is two tiers below. Maybe the person I was playing with was a total novice, but so am I.PannicAtack