Is the 3DS dead on arrival?

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#1 JangoWuzHere
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Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

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#2 sethman410
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Yup dead on arrival. Should have waited until several decent games were ready to be released.
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#3 ChubbyGuy40
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It had a few good games at launch. Problem is that it just didn't have any really big hits (But a good number were surprisingly good.)

It has plenty of good titles lined up. Problem is that its the summer and summer always has a dry/boring season for video games.

And Wii had a good life game wise. There are plenty of great and good games for it.

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#4 Shirokishi_
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Oh it was DEFINITELY rushed, to market atleast but its not dead on arrival. Its just experiencing a slow start mostly due to a pretty high price tag and mediocre launch lineup.

What also hurt it is the fact that the DS is still alive, kicking and kind of a 3DS competitor. Shouldve waited another 6-12 months in my honest opinion.

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#5 93BlackHawk93
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With it selling 3.6m out of 4m, I don't think so.

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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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in May there will be a Prolouge to Megaman Legends 3 with a Debug Room to mess with so yeah...

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#7 haziqonfire
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The lack of a platformer seller is hurting it, but it still managed to move a decent amount of units. I'm loving mine personally, the built in software is pretty entertaining along with a retail title or two.
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#8 nintendoboy16
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Why do I get the feeling this has been asked every time a system doesn't reach expectations even by a hair? There's some legit points to it, yes, but I wouldn't call it "Dead on Arrival".

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#9 nintendoboy16
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And Wii had a good life game wise. There are plenty of great and good games for it.

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I can't count how many times this was missed about the Wii.
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#10 emirblade
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It feels incomplete, But Nintendo is making sure it lives. They want the change how it is marketed, and are making a load of games. For me it's future looks promising.

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#11 mlbslugger86
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yep, it was trying to get to this party when it got ambushed by a couple of PSP's who turned it into swiss cheese

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#12 tomarlyn
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I question why anybody got one this early but its going to own within a year.
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#13 ChubbyGuy40
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I question why anybody got one this early but its going to own within a year.tomarlyn

Simple answer really.

Because they can.

Why get an iPad 2 this year when theres obviously gonna be a new one next year thats 0.0001cm thinner and a new CPU. It'll even include a new OS that works perfectly fine on iPad 2, but Apple won't tell you that.

No doubt there will be a 3DS lite or a variation/improvement/redesign, but this early is just because they can.

Or they wanted to get it before the OoT remake arrives and clears the stock.

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#14 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I question why anybody got one this early but its going to own within a year.ChubbyGuy40

Simple answer really.

Because they can.

Why get an iPad 2 this year when theres obviously gonna be a new one next year thats 0.0001cm thinner and a new CPU. It'll even include a new OS that works perfectly fine on iPad 2, but Apple won't tell you that.

No doubt there will be a 3DS lite or a variation/improvement/redesign, but this early is just because they can.

Or they wanted to get it before the OoT remake arrives and clears the stock.

I could, had the money set aside in a paypal account just for it. But after hearing about the baterry life, dodgy 3D effect and weak launch library I decided its wiser to wait for a revision. Decided to spend the cash on games and I've never looked back :D
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in May there will be a Prolouge to Megaman Legends 3 with a Debug Room to mess with so yeah...

LegatoSkyheart

I was excited for that as well

but then I realized how depressing that actually is....

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lol i think he is basing his thread on japan where it is 2nd and or first back and forth with not many games atm , and 3.6 m is just the usa numbers

so no its not dead on arrival , games are coming give it time plus it has no direct competition

and nintnedo is infact making profit on this thing

also let me know when it is selling less thne psp go did day one ,

thats when it will be considered dead on arrival it dont need to out sell the original ds to succeed , lol it will come close but thats not needed and dont forget pokemon came out for original ds i tihnk that didnt help matters well not like it nintneods hurt by it lol its their own other product as long as ds and 3ds sell along side eachother itll work out for them why because once the price does drop people will pick one of these up psp isnt hurting it its not competing with the new ds in fact its competing with the old one which has more units sold htne it will ever have psps only strong market is japan ,

ds is killiong it else where 3ds is also kicking it in the usa and such japan 3ds is slow but not hurting

in fact japan is a handheld country bascally so itll do good over there once the games ocme

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#17 max-Emadness
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it flopped

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#18 SpinoRaptor24
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So dead that it's almost sold out in every store.

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I question why anybody got one this early but its going to own within a year.tomarlyn

Games. I got it right away because I wanted an upgrade. I wanted Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition and Pilotwings Resort. Though, a lot of people bought it now as an investment for games in the upcoming months.

In May Dead or Alive: Dimensions and BlazBlue: Contiuum Shift II release and in June there is OoT3D, Cave Story 3D, Devil Survivor Overclocked and Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D.

It might be different for you, but I have never played OoT in its entirety, ever. I've only played it for a few hours. I have never played Cave Story, Devil Survivor or BlazBlue. So, most of these are like new releases to me. I'm fairly excited, but I'd understand why others wouldn't be.

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#20 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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People in system wars seem to suffer from amnesia. Every system is slow software wise at launch. Yet every time we get topics like this one. The 3DS will be fine. Just like the PS3, 360, and Wii ended up surviving after lackluster launch titles.
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#21 trugs26
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I don't get why people make a big deal out of this. Yes, the launch didn't have a big title. But the games there are still pretty solid, I'm having loads of fun with Ridge Racer, SSF4 and Pilot Wings.

It's only about a month away until big titles start hitting anyway, thus I don't get the reason why people are up in arms about it. And from Zelda, there is a slew of big titles coming this year.

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#22 Dibdibdobdobo
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Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

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Wrong. The Wii got better over the years with its pinnacle year in 2010.... Only people who would agree with your 1st line is people who dont know what theyre on about. Thats not a opinion thats a fact. Wow good assumption. Thats all it is... A assumption!! Im sure you dont know what the software line up looks like.
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#23 lordlors
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If that's the case then DS would have RIP in its launch since it sold worse and had worse launch lineup. sigh...
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#24 spookykid143
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I can't wait for Dead or Alive

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#25 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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Yeah it's dead, but a hand full of good games are coming to jolt it back into life again.
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#26 dzimm
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Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

JangoWuzHere

I think the Wii is pretty darn amazing with a fantastic library of games as I think most would agree Yeah, I can play the "assume the majority agrees with you" game, too. :roll:

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it.

JangoWuzHere

Actually, the majority of the launch line-up is at the very least "decent", and most of the games are, in fact, very good as I think most would agree. The professional reviews are way out of step with the opinions of the average gamer on this one.

The 3DS just feels like it was rushed.

JangoWuzHere

Debatable. Yes, it would have been nice if the eShop and browser had been ready at launch, but it doesn't feel "rushed" as I think most would agree.

I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

JangoWuzHere

You make a great point, because it's all but certain that Zelda, Starfox, Super Mario, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Kid Icurus, Animal Crossing, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive, etc. won't sell by the truck loads as I think most would agree. Oh, and that's not counting that it already has two platinum sellers. Nope, no trucks loads of sales here. No sir-ree.

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#27 CwlHeddwyn
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well the original DS had an uninspiring start.

the 3DS has done reasonably well considering the high price tag and lack of games.

things will pick up when Ocarina and Mario arrive later this year.

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#28 Planeforger
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Yup dead on arrival. Should have waited until several decent games were ready to be released.sethman410

I'm pretty sure that Ocarina of Time and a few others *were* ready to be released (they've been showing off playable demos for months now), but they delayed them to give the third-party developers a chance to get some sales.Anyway, no, the 3DS sold well, has a bunch of decent games on it (which is more than you can say for a lot of system launches), and will only get better in the coming months.
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#29 romans828_2002
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The 3DS has everything in place to be great. It just needs must have games. I'm confident they'll come and the system will be just fine.
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#30 Bread_or_Decide
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Short answer, yes. Longer answer, no.
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#31 James161324
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With it selling 3.6m out of 4m, I don't think so.

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Those aren't amazing numbers for a launch. It was rushed to the point it may hurt it later

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Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

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You're wrong..casuals don't care about the 3DS. They think it's just another DSI or DSXL except with a heada ache enhancement feature. Notice the media has not been covering the 3DS the way it covered the Wii. There is no excitement behind this thing...it's sitting on store shelves. Even the "3d without glasses" is no longer impressive once you've seen it and realize it's not really "3D."
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So dead that it's almost sold out in every store.

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It's not...it's not sold out anywhere.

lol i think he is basing his thread on japan where it is 2nd and or first back and forth with not many games atm , and 3.6 m is just the usa numbers

so no its not dead on arrival , games are coming give it time plus it has no direct competition

and nintnedo is infact making profit on this thing

also let me know when it is selling less thne psp go did day one ,

thats when it will be considered dead on arrival it dont need to out sell the original ds to succeed , lol it will come close but thats not needed and dont forget pokemon came out for original ds i tihnk that didnt help matters well not like it nintneods hurt by it lol its their own other product as long as ds and 3ds sell along side eachother itll work out for them why because once the price does drop people will pick one of these up psp isnt hurting it its not competing with the new ds in fact its competing with the old one which has more units sold htne it will ever have psps only strong market is japan ,

ds is killiong it else where 3ds is also kicking it in the usa and such japan 3ds is slow but not hurting

in fact japan is a handheld country bascally so itll do good over there once the games ocme

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3.6 is world wide numbers. The ones people use when the regional numbers suck.
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#34 Jack_240
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resident evil mercenary 3D will boost the sales of the 3DS .. it just needs a solid game to get started

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It's got a terrible launch lineup, the price for it is high and we all know that when the good games start coming and the 3DS is worth buying it'll be cheaper then and there will probably be a new model out.
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I'm still of the view that Nintendo didn't do nearly enough to distinguish the 3DS from the rest of the DS lineup, which will in the long run affect the casual appeal of the system. We SW posters might know the ins and outs of the hardware, and know it is significantly more powerful than the DS, but the average consumer doesn't, nor does the average Gamestop or Walmart employee. I don't doubt most people see it as just another DS iteration, while the select few of us here, see it as the successor. And Nintendo of course. I am both optimistic and pessimistic about its future. A more powerful platform will be good for developers to bring new ideas and games to the handheld market, but the whole 3D thing, like motion controls, will be overused in the beginning, and won't really get the attention it deserves in the long run (i.e. devs will use the gimmick as a selling point for crap, and not spend any time making something worthwhile that makes the 3D innovative and not just gimmicky). Only the truly dedicated developers (i.e. mostly Nintendo) will spend the time and money making worthwhile games, and unfortunately, they won't get any advertising or notoriety, thus fail commercially. The 3DS isn't DOA... but its future is pretty bleak. And no amount of nostalgia trips can do much to change that.
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#37 dzimm
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

With it selling 3.6m out of 4m, I don't think so.

James161324

Those aren't amazing numbers for a launch. It was rushed to the point it may hurt it later

Considering that it's one of the most successful system launches in terms of sales, I wonder, what would you consider "amazing numbers"?

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#38 dzimm
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3.6 is world wide numbers. The ones people use when the regional numbers suck. Bread_or_Decide

I will challenge you again to provide regional numbers for other system launches and prove your assertion that the 3DS regional sales "suck".

Or you can ignore this challenge like you did last time and implicitly concede that you're full of crap. :)

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I'm still of the view that Nintendo didn't do nearly enough to distinguish the 3DS from the rest of the DS lineup, which will in the long run affect the casual appeal of the system. We SW posters might know the ins and outs of the hardware, and know it is significantly more powerful than the DS, but the average consumer doesn't, nor does the average Gamestop or Walmart employee. I don't doubt most people see it as just another DS iteration, while the select few of us here, see it as the successor. And Nintendo of course. I am both optimistic and pessimistic about its future. A more powerful platform will be good for developers to bring new ideas and games to the handheld market, but the whole 3D thing, like motion controls, will be overused in the beginning, and won't really get the attention it deserves in the long run (i.e. devs will use the gimmick as a selling point for crap, and not spend any time making something worthwhile that makes the 3D innovative and not just gimmicky). Only the truly dedicated developers (i.e. mostly Nintendo) will spend the time and money making worthwhile games, and unfortunately, they won't get any advertising or notoriety, thus fail commercially. The 3DS isn't DOA... but its future is pretty bleak. And no amount of nostalgia trips can do much to change that.foxhound_fox
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

As it's been proven before, unlike nintendo's home consoles, third party games actual do good on their handhelds.

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#40 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I'm still of the view that Nintendo didn't do nearly enough to distinguish the 3DS from the rest of the DS lineup, which will in the long run affect the casual appeal of the system. We SW posters might know the ins and outs of the hardware, and know it is significantly more powerful than the DS, but the average consumer doesn't, nor does the average Gamestop or Walmart employee. I don't doubt most people see it as just another DS iteration, while the select few of us here, see it as the successor. And Nintendo of course. I am both optimistic and pessimistic about its future. A more powerful platform will be good for developers to bring new ideas and games to the handheld market, but the whole 3D thing, like motion controls, will be overused in the beginning, and won't really get the attention it deserves in the long run (i.e. devs will use the gimmick as a selling point for crap, and not spend any time making something worthwhile that makes the 3D innovative and not just gimmicky). Only the truly dedicated developers (i.e. mostly Nintendo) will spend the time and money making worthwhile games, and unfortunately, they won't get any advertising or notoriety, thus fail commercially. The 3DS isn't DOA... but its future is pretty bleak. And no amount of nostalgia trips can do much to change that.

None of the launch titles show off even a little bit of it's graphics power. I remember the PSP had that instant "wow" factor when it came to the graphics and the beautiful wide screen visuals. 3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect.
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#41 dzimm
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3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect. Bread_or_Decide

This is as good as admitting that you've never even seen the 3DS in person. :roll:

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#42 trugs26
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3.6 is world wide numbers. The ones people use when the regional numbers suck. dzimm

I will challenge you again to provide regional numbers for other system launches and prove your assertion that the 3DS regional sales "suck".

Or you can ignore this challenge like you did last time and implicitly concede that you're full of crap. :)


So I guess he conceded then? :P

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#43 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect. dzimm

This is as good as admitting that you've never even seen the 3DS in person. :roll:

I played it at the Nintendo store. Spent a few minutes with each game in fact. So yeah, you're wrong. Pilot Wings was the worst when it came to finding a "sweet" spot to play in 3D. SFIV was the easiest. The rest really were more inbetween.
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#44 Bread_or_Decide
Member since 2007 • 29761 Posts

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3.6 is world wide numbers. The ones people use when the regional numbers suck. trugs26

I will challenge you again to provide regional numbers for other system launches and prove your assertion that the 3DS regional sales "suck".

Or you can ignore this challenge like you did last time and implicitly concede that you're full of crap. :)


So I guess he conceded then? :P

Have the individiual region numbers even been released? From that total you can tell each region underperformed. Another tell tale sign is the piles of 3DS left on store shelves after the initial launch. If the world wide number is so low...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the break down makes it even less impressive.

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#45 Bread_or_Decide
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Hypothetical Let's say the USA was 1.0 Europe 1.0 Japan .6 Other 1.0 One million in just America alone? Barely noticed by the media or casual consumers. That's hardly what I'd call a successful launch. Even Capcom can only brag on games shipped not sold. All signs point to creative wording to make it sound better. Otherwise they would be using specific regional numbers instead of world wide sales.
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#46 APiranhaAteMyVa
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It is doing well, just didn't quite match the Nintendo 4 million and has a fairly weak set of launch titles, hardly dead on arrival though. It will take at least 2 years to see whether it will be another DS or not.

It will be interesting to see how the NGP performs, people expect another DS vs PSP outcome, but that might not be the case this time around, we shall see.

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#47 Nintendo_Ownes7
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It is doing well, just didn't quite match the Nintendo 4 million and has a fairly weak set of launch titles, hardly dead on arrival though. It will take at least 2 years to see whether it will be another DS or not.

It will be interesting to see how the NGP performs, people expect another DS vs PSP outcome, but that might not be the case this time around, we shall see.

APiranhaAteMyVa

It also took a year for the DS to take off because the launch titles weren't that great. Same thing is happening with the 3DS.

If you were on System Wars in 2005 you would remember that people thought the PSP was going to win because the PSP was doing better in the first 1.5 years of their respective life cycles.

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#48 haziqonfire
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None of the launch titles show off even a little bit of it's graphics power. I remember the PSP had that instant "wow" factor when it came to the graphics and the beautiful wide screen visuals. 3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect. Bread_or_Decide

Huh?

Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition is a great display of the systems capabilities. It looks pretty much like the console versions, with static backgrounds. Pilotwings Resort is also a good graphical showcase along with the 3D effect -- which actually adds to the gameplay. It's much easier to judge distance, to judge how much momentum you have, how much you have to slow down before you land on the landing pads, etc.

I was playing the game in full 3D all the time, until I decided to turn it off completely to see how I'd do with it off. I was not able to play as well as I did while in 3D.

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#49 EdenProxy
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Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

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#50 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Dead on arrival? Not in the SLIGHTEST. Look how big the DS became. That DS probably had the most terrible launch lineup EVER. The Nintendo 64 only launched with 2(or was it 4) games. Imo, 3DS has had a great launch. A few of the games are very underrated, so much so that I just guess I need to try all 3DS games for myself, first. Not only that, but the system was just released, and in a month we will have another batch of games arriving AND the eshop. If this system allows me to carry all my favorite nes/snes/genesis/tg16/n64 games, I'd call it the greatest system ever.