is the $50 xbox live/year worth it compared to sonys free online?

Why do Cows still try to throw P2P in lemmings faces when:

1.) There are a grand total of 2 games on PS3 that use dedicated servers; Resistance and Warhawk. Sony games use them, but it's not standard for all PSN games to use them.

2.) XBox Live can use dedicated servers as well, the reason it's not common is because it's much cheaper and easier to just use P2P.

[QUOTE="caleb5050"]i have 360 live, so i know all of it's features, what are playstation networks features?jbz7890

Its main feature is zero lag.

so far thats the only thing you've said jbz but you haven't figured out yet is your wrong, there is no such thing as 0 lag.

PSN servers lag this is a simple fact of the net, theres a difference between preceptable lag and unpreceptable lag.

preceptable lag is the kind you see the kind that makes people skip around, unpreceptable is the kind that makes you miss that headshot even though you should have gotten.

The only time 0 lag exists is on an lan game, if its online its gonna have lag regardless of what you do, there are many entries online of psn game lag i can post them but i wont simply pick a game, and add lag to the end and you will get entries.

and something ill add to what tyrant dragon said above me, p2p servers will last longer then dedicated, because once a game stops being profitable the owners will shut down those servers, the same has happend with ps2 dedicated server games the same will happen with ps3 servers....in 5-10 years ill stil be able to play 360 and original xbox games, ps2 and ps3 games i will not.

To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.-Renegade

lol you never owned a 360 and you know it, you've been a sonyfanboy since the release of the 360 2 years ago.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.WilliamRLBaker

lol you never owned a 360 and you know it, you've been a sonyfanboy since the release of the 360 2 years ago.

Um ok. :roll: I didn't even post much when I had my 360 so whatever you say. I only bought a 360 to hold me over until PS3 arrived anyway. I was going to keep it but the problems witht the console and having to pay to play online stop me from doing that.

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

Puckhog04

Most meaning 2?

Yes. Xbox Live is great and the PSN has yet to show me a better value.DuDisNow

PSN uses Dedicated servers.... just like pc gaming..., nough said.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

TyrantDragon55

Most meaning 2?

Bad choice of words i suppose seeing as i don't know the exact amount nor have i played all PSN games. But unless you know the exact amount on PSN that use dedicated servers, you're at about the same spot.

imo, it definitely is. though $50 bucks isnt much for a year, its like $4 bucks a month rounded down, which isnt bad at all

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

Puckhog04

Most meaning 2?

Bad choice of words i suppose seeing as i don't know the exact amount nor have i played all PSN games. But unless you know the exact amount on PSN that use dedicated servers, you're at about the same spot.

The only ones I've heard of are Resistance and Warhawk. CoD4 is P2P, Motorstorm is P2P, The Darkness is probably P2P, how many other online games are there on PS3 anyway?

[QUOTE="caleb5050"]i have 360 live, so i know all of it's features, what are playstation networks features?jbz7890

Its main feature is zero lag.

That must be why I experience lag on COD4.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Am I the only one who realizes how insignificant 50US$ a year is?R-Dot-Yung

But what about when u have multiple people sharing one XBOX a la my household...

it then becomes 150 bucks per 3 unique gamertags...

and 50 bucks was already pushing it too far for one when PS3 offers a perfectly satisfactory experiance for free

PSN - I play online multiplayer for free

XBL - I pay 50 bucks for online multiplayer on P2P

explain how XBL is now a better deal

Gee I don't know...XBL actuall has in game XMB, one of the most important features of online gaming?

To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.-Renegade

Yes because losing Live somehow takes away all of the great games the 360 has...:roll:

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

TyrantDragon55

Most meaning 2?

Bad choice of words i suppose seeing as i don't know the exact amount nor have i played all PSN games. But unless you know the exact amount on PSN that use dedicated servers, you're at about the same spot.

The only ones I've heard of are Resistance and Warhawk. CoD4 is P2P, Motorstorm is P2P, The Darkness is probably P2P, how many other online games are there on PS3 anyway?

Quite a few. Don't know the exact amount on PSN though. None of those titles are 32+ players though so it's not too surprsing they aren't dedicated servers. I haven't played either COD4, Motorstorm, or The Darknesson PSN to know otherwise either.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

Puckhog04

Most meaning 2?

Bad choice of words i suppose seeing as i don't know the exact amount nor have i played all PSN games. But unless you know the exact amount on PSN that use dedicated servers, you're at about the same spot.

The only ones I've heard of are Resistance and Warhawk. CoD4 is P2P, Motorstorm is P2P, The Darkness is probably P2P, how many other online games are there on PS3 anyway?

Quite a few. Don't know the exact amount on PSN though. None of those titles are 32+ players though so it's not too surprsing they aren't dedicated servers. I haven't played either COD4, Motorstorm, or The Darknesson PSN to know otherwise either.

Number of players doesn't mean anything, Perfect Dark Zero is 32 players and works just fine on p2p.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PSN is essentially XBL but with more dedicated servers (most games use dedicated servers). It has demos, videos, and such that XBL has as well.

But XBL is definitely worth the price for the games that I get to play on it. Not saying PSN games are bad, far from it in fact. Warhawk and Resistance online are my most played games. I like playing Halo 3 and such though on XBL a good amount. So it's worth it to me.

TyrantDragon55

Most meaning 2?

Bad choice of words i suppose seeing as i don't know the exact amount nor have i played all PSN games. But unless you know the exact amount on PSN that use dedicated servers, you're at about the same spot.

The only ones I've heard of are Resistance and Warhawk. CoD4 is P2P, Motorstorm is P2P, The Darkness is probably P2P, how many other online games are there on PS3 anyway?

Quite a few. Don't know the exact amount on PSN though. None of those titles are 32+ players though so it's not too surprsing they aren't dedicated servers. I haven't played either COD4, Motorstorm, or The Darknesson PSN to know otherwise either.

Number of players doesn't mean anything, Perfect Dark Zero is 32 players and works just fine on p2p.

Well, it does mean something. Usually games with higher players means that there is a higher chance of dedicated servers (except for on XBL...which you're stuck with P2P no matter what with the exception of Battlefield 2 MC). CoD4 is 18 online and could possibly use dedicated servers except that it's lag free anyway and uses a matchmaking system. Motorstorm is 8 online...No need for dedicated with that little people. The Darkess? I don't recall how much that is online but i thought it was 8. Correct me if i'm wrong. Again (if it's 8 players online, which i think it is), doesn't need dedicated for 8 players.

Am I the only one who realizes how insignificant 50US$ a year is?musicalmac

A low cost does not give something legitimacy.

Plus, the precedent in online gaming (except for MMORPGs) has been free service for nearly a decade.

Well, it does mean something. Usually games with higher players means that there is a higher chance of dedicated servers (except for on XBL...which you're stuck with P2P no matter what with the exception of Battlefield 2 MC). CoD4 is 18 online and could possibly use dedicated servers except that it's lag free anyway and uses a matchmaking system. Motorstorm is 8 online...No need for dedicated with that little people. The Darkess? I don't recall how much that is online but i thought it was 8. Correct me if i'm wrong. Again (if it's 8 players online, which i think it is), doesn't need dedicated for 8 players.

Puckhog04

On XBL you are not stuck with P2P no matter what, it's just much cheaper and easier to use P2P so most developers choose to do so (and build their games accordingly). As far as I know the only PSN games that use dedicated servers are Resistance and Warhawk because Sony has always used dedicated servers for their games. If there were other games on PSN that did it I'm sure we'd hear them mentioned a lot more on these boards.

its worth it

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Well, it does mean something. Usually games with higher players means that there is a higher chance of dedicated servers (except for on XBL...which you're stuck with P2P no matter what with the exception of Battlefield 2 MC). CoD4 is 18 online and could possibly use dedicated servers except that it's lag free anyway and uses a matchmaking system. Motorstorm is 8 online...No need for dedicated with that little people. The Darkess? I don't recall how much that is online but i thought it was 8. Correct me if i'm wrong. Again (if it's 8 players online, which i think it is), doesn't need dedicated for 8 players.

TyrantDragon55

On XBL you are not stuck with P2P no matter what, it's just much cheaper and easier to use P2P so most developers choose to do so (and build their games accordingly). As far as I know the only PSN games that use dedicated servers are Resistance and Warhawk because Sony has always used dedicated servers for their games. If there were other games on PSN that did it I'm sure we'd hear them mentioned a lot more on these boards.

Maybe and maybe not. I suppose i could rent some of those titles to really see for certain. But, really, 8 players doesn't warrant Dedicated servers so reallythose aren't worth my time. R6V and GRAW2 might be interesting ones to check.

does anybody have some comparisons they would like to shier?caleb5050

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Am I the only one who realizes how insignificant 50US$ a year is?R-Dot-Yung

But what about when u have multiple people sharing one XBOX a la my household...

it then becomes 150 bucks per 3 unique gamertags...

and 50 bucks was already pushing it too far for one when PS3 offers a perfectly satisfactory experiance for free

You pay for everyone in your house ... good for you. If you don't share accounts then why would you share the fee?

Also on PS3 can each account go on the same PS3 at the same time?

Can you bring quests online?

To me, yes.

PSN's only real advantage is that it's free. XBL trumps it in every concievable way based on my experiences.

To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.-Renegade

I sold my Xbox too. At the topic creator, MS charges more than $50/yr. You want your brother to have an account that's another $15, your dad that's $15, your sister $15. You want a cool theme for your X360? You have to pay for that too. All free on Playstation. Playstation network is great and it's free. Less lag, the games support more players, the community is friendlier, and Home is coming soon. Microsoft nickels and dimes all X360 owners. Online is just the beginning. Before you even start playing your X360 you will have spent more than a PS3 costs. Another example Xbox games on Live $15, Playstation games on Playstation Network $5.99 and you can play them not just on PS3 but on PSP too. Oh and you can surf the web on Playstation Network, not on Live though.

IT'S MURDER, IT'S HIGHWAY ROBBERY, IT'S TAKING FOOD OUT OF OUR MOUTHS!!!! HOW CAN I LIVE?!?!? I ONLY MAKE $2300 A MONTH!!!! :cry:DementedDragon

I make about 4-5x that, but it's not about the money it's about the principle. The fact is nobody else charges. Not Sony, not Nintendo, Xfire doesn't, Steam doesn't, Battle.net, etc... nobody except Microsoft charges to play games online with their friends. And I really despise the way Microsoft is trying to make charging for everything the industry standard. As a gamer you should too. It's not a good thing. All the $50 charge does is makes it so a good portion of people aren't online. Which is why only 40% of X360 owners are online. You know what that means? It means even if you and your friend have an X360 there is a 2 out of 3 chance your friend will NOT be online anyway.

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]IT'S MURDER, IT'S HIGHWAY ROBBERY, IT'S TAKING FOOD OUT OF OUR MOUTHS!!!! HOW CAN I LIVE?!?!? I ONLY MAKE $2300 A MONTH!!!! :cry:EmperorSupreme

I make about 4-5x that, but it's not about the money it's about the principle. The fact is nobody else charges. Not Sony, not Nintendo, Xfire doesn't, Steam doesn't, Battle.net, etc... nobody except Microsoft charges to play games online with their friends. And I really despise the way Microsoft is trying to make charging for everything the industry standard. As a gamer you should too. It's not a good thing. All the $50 charge does is makes it so a good portion of people aren't online. Which is why only 40% of X360 owners are online. You know what that means? It means even if you and your friend have an X360 there is a 2 out of 3 chance your friend will NOT be online anyway.

I don't own a 360 but I imagine I won't be using the online play feature much. I still haven't used the Live service for the Xbox 1, online play isn't that important to me (as I so adamantly stated in the past.) However the way I see it, if you can pay $60 for a game, $50-$60 for a controller and $300+ for a system; that live fee should be cake walk. The bigger offense is the cost of a new game for the 360/PS3; you'd think they'd wonder why the purchasing of used or rental games is becoming increasingly popular.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.EmperorSupreme

I sold my Xbox too. At the topic creator, MS charges more than $50/yr. You want your brother to have an account that's another $15, your dad that's $15, your sister $15. You want a cool theme for your X360? You have to pay for that too. All free on Playstation. Playstation network is great and it's free. Less lag, the games support more players, the community is friendlier, and Home is coming soon. Microsoft nickels and dimes all X360 owners. Online is just the beginning. Before you even start playing your X360 you will have spent more than a PS3 costs. Another example Xbox games on Live $15, Playstation games on Playstation Network $5.99 and you can play them not just on PS3 but on PSP too. Oh and you can surf the web on Playstation Network, not on Live though.

First off, there are a number of free themes on the Xbox Live Marketplace. I have over 20 on my 360 console and I've not paid for a single one of them. Xbox Live games are lag free unless players have crappy connections. Guess what? The same thing applies to the PSN. You act as if PSN games never lag, which is entirely untrue.

And what's this about PSN games supporting more players? Resistance supported 40. But that's one game. By your logic, I could bring up the fact that Delta Force Black Hawk Down supported 50 players on the original Xbox. I'm not even going to mention the games such as Tony Hawks Project 8 and Virtua Fighter 5 that include online play on the 360 but do not on the PS3. Oh, and about the community being friendlier. Sure, I'll give you that. But the only reason for that is because no one has a damn mic. I've played plenty of Warhawk and Resistance games in which out of 20 or more players, only around 2 or 3 had mics.

Xbox games are $15 on Xbox Live, true enough, but how are you comparing them to Playstation games? You do realize the Playstation is a full generation behind the Xbox and that its games are by and large much cheaper by default right?

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.The_Game21x

I sold my Xbox too. At the topic creator, MS charges more than $50/yr. You want your brother to have an account that's another $15, your dad that's $15, your sister $15. You want a cool theme for your X360? You have to pay for that too. All free on Playstation. Playstation network is great and it's free. Less lag, the games support more players, the community is friendlier, and Home is coming soon. Microsoft nickels and dimes all X360 owners. Online is just the beginning. Before you even start playing your X360 you will have spent more than a PS3 costs. Another example Xbox games on Live $15, Playstation games on Playstation Network $5.99 and you can play them not just on PS3 but on PSP too. Oh and you can surf the web on Playstation Network, not on Live though.

First off, there are a number of free themes on the Xbox Live Marketplace. I have over 20 on my 360 console and I've not paid for a single one of them. Xbox Live games are lag free unless players have crappy connections. Guess what? The same thing applies to the PSN. You act as if PSN games never lag, which is entirely untrue.

And what's this about PSN games supporting more players? Resistance supported 40. But that's one game. By your logic, I could bring up the fact that Delta Force Black Hawk Down supported 50 players on the original Xbox. I'm not even going to mention the games such as Tony Hawks Project 8 and Virtua Fighter 5 that include online play on the 360 but do not on the PS3. Oh, and about the community being friendlier. Sure, I'll give you that. But the only reason for that is because no one has a damn mic. I've played plenty of Warhawk and Resistance games in which out of 20 or more players, only around 2 or 3 had mics.

Xbox games are $15 on Xbox Live, true enough, but how are you comparing them to Playstation games? You do realize the Playstation is a full generation behind the Xbox and that its games are by and large much cheaper by default right?

What X360 games support 32 players like Warhawk or 40 players like Resistance?? I can't think of any. Go ahead bring up Virtua Fighter 5, the only reason X360 has online and the PS3 version doesn't is because the developers said it would ruin the game to put online in it. Well guess what they didn't put in online and nobody bought it, so 6 months later the X360 version comes out and they put in online. If anything you should be thanking PS3 fans, if it wasn't for our complaining about lack of online the X360 version would've never had it either. You have Virtua Fighter with online PS3 fans get Unreal with online and MODS. Something I doubt you will ever see on X360.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.EmperorSupreme

I sold my Xbox too. At the topic creator, MS charges more than $50/yr. You want your brother to have an account that's another $15, your dad that's $15, your sister $15. You want a cool theme for your X360? You have to pay for that too. All free on Playstation. Playstation network is great and it's free. Less lag, the games support more players, the community is friendlier, and Home is coming soon. Microsoft nickels and dimes all X360 owners. Online is just the beginning. Before you even start playing your X360 you will have spent more than a PS3 costs. Another example Xbox games on Live $15, Playstation games on Playstation Network $5.99 and you can play them not just on PS3 but on PSP too. Oh and you can surf the web on Playstation Network, not on Live though.

First off, there are a number of free themes on the Xbox Live Marketplace. I have over 20 on my 360 console and I've not paid for a single one of them. Xbox Live games are lag free unless players have crappy connections. Guess what? The same thing applies to the PSN. You act as if PSN games never lag, which is entirely untrue.

And what's this about PSN games supporting more players? Resistance supported 40. But that's one game. By your logic, I could bring up the fact that Delta Force Black Hawk Down supported 50 players on the original Xbox. I'm not even going to mention the games such as Tony Hawks Project 8 and Virtua Fighter 5 that include online play on the 360 but do not on the PS3. Oh, and about the community being friendlier. Sure, I'll give you that. But the only reason for that is because no one has a damn mic. I've played plenty of Warhawk and Resistance games in which out of 20 or more players, only around 2 or 3 had mics.

Xbox games are $15 on Xbox Live, true enough, but how are you comparing them to Playstation games? You do realize the Playstation is a full generation behind the Xbox and that its games are by and large much cheaper by default right?

What X360 games support 32 players like Warhawk or 40 players like Resistance?? I can't think of any. Go ahead bring up Virtua Fighter 5, the only reason X360 has online and the PS3 version doesn't is because the developers said it would ruin the game to put online in it. Well guess what they didn't put in online and nobody bought it, so 6 months later the X360 version comes out and they put in online. If anything you should be thanking PS3 fans, if it wasn't for our complaining about lack of online the X360 version would've never had it either. You have Virtua Fighter with online PS3 fans get Unreal with online and MODS. Something I doubt you will ever see on X360.

Perfect Dark Zero is 32 players and Delta Force: Black Hawk Down (an XBox 1 game) is 50 players. And that excuse doesn't explain why the PS3 version of VF5 has yet to receive a "Make Online go!" patch.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Am I the only one who realizes how insignificant 50US$ a year is?Danm_999

A low cost does not give something legitimacy.

Plus, the precedent in online gaming (except for MMORPGs) has been free service for nearly a decade.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]To answer TC question no that's why I sold my 360 and now only own a PS3. I have to agree with someone else though a 360 without Live is pretty worthless.TyrantDragon55

I sold my Xbox too. At the topic creator, MS charges more than $50/yr. You want your brother to have an account that's another $15, your dad that's $15, your sister $15. You want a cool theme for your X360? You have to pay for that too. All free on Playstation. Playstation network is great and it's free. Less lag, the games support more players, the community is friendlier, and Home is coming soon. Microsoft nickels and dimes all X360 owners. Online is just the beginning. Before you even start playing your X360 you will have spent more than a PS3 costs. Another example Xbox games on Live $15, Playstation games on Playstation Network $5.99 and you can play them not just on PS3 but on PSP too. Oh and you can surf the web on Playstation Network, not on Live though.

First off, there are a number of free themes on the Xbox Live Marketplace. I have over 20 on my 360 console and I've not paid for a single one of them. Xbox Live games are lag free unless players have crappy connections. Guess what? The same thing applies to the PSN. You act as if PSN games never lag, which is entirely untrue.

And what's this about PSN games supporting more players? Resistance supported 40. But that's one game. By your logic, I could bring up the fact that Delta Force Black Hawk Down supported 50 players on the original Xbox. I'm not even going to mention the games such as Tony Hawks Project 8 and Virtua Fighter 5 that include online play on the 360 but do not on the PS3. Oh, and about the community being friendlier. Sure, I'll give you that. But the only reason for that is because no one has a damn mic. I've played plenty of Warhawk and Resistance games in which out of 20 or more players, only around 2 or 3 had mics.

Xbox games are $15 on Xbox Live, true enough, but how are you comparing them to Playstation games? You do realize the Playstation is a full generation behind the Xbox and that its games are by and large much cheaper by default right?

What X360 games support 32 players like Warhawk or 40 players like Resistance?? I can't think of any. Go ahead bring up Virtua Fighter 5, the only reason X360 has online and the PS3 version doesn't is because the developers said it would ruin the game to put online in it. Well guess what they didn't put in online and nobody bought it, so 6 months later the X360 version comes out and they put in online. If anything you should be thanking PS3 fans, if it wasn't for our complaining about lack of online the X360 version would've never had it either. You have Virtua Fighter with online PS3 fans get Unreal with online and MODS. Something I doubt you will ever see on X360.

Perfect Dark Zero is 32 players and Delta Force: Black Hawk Down (an XBox 1 game) is 50 players. And that excuse doesn't explain why the PS3 version of VF5 has yet to receive a "Make Online go!" patch.

Ownage approved!:D

It's so easy to poke holes in his arguments. And X360 users have Microsoft's XBL software to thank for VF5 online, not PS3 owners.

The real question for people in the UK is this- "Is £40 ($80) a year worth it compared to Sony's free online?" Why do people in the UK get charged more for a service? does anyone know?meme378

I think it's absolutely worth it. Best $4/month you can spend. It works better, everyone has mics, and you can invite friends to chat no matter what they are doing. I love it.

if sony's online was anywhere near as good as xbox live, there would be as many players online...

but people choose to pay for xbox live more so than sony's "free" online...

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="caleb5050"]i have 360 live, so i know all of it's features, what are playstation networks features?WilliamRLBaker

Its main feature is zero lag.

so far thats the only thing you've said jbz but you haven't figured out yet is your wrong, there is no such thing as 0 lag.

PSN servers lag this is a simple fact of the net, theres a difference between preceptable lag and unpreceptable lag.

preceptable lag is the kind you see the kind that makes people skip around, unpreceptable is the kind that makes you miss that headshot even though you should have gotten.

The only time 0 lag exists is on an lan game, if its online its gonna have lag regardless of what you do, there are many entries online of psn game lag i can post them but i wont simply pick a game, and add lag to the end and you will get entries.

and something ill add to what tyrant dragon said above me, p2p servers will last longer then dedicated, because once a game stops being profitable the owners will shut down those servers, the same has happend with ps2 dedicated server games the same will happen with ps3 servers....in 5-10 years ill stil be able to play 360 and original xbox games, ps2 and ps3 games i will not.

[QUOTE="meme378"]The real question for people in the UK is this- "Is £40 ($80) a year worth it compared to Sony's free online?" Why do people in the UK get charged more for a service? does anyone know?musicalmac

I'm not sure what the average income of the UK is. But that could be a possibility.

IMO the reason the PSN is free is becouse sony dont actually provide a service. they leave it down too the developers too include in their games. their is no infrastructure like with XBL which connects EVERY game even game that are not multiplayer are still live aware. and being able too press 1 button that calls up my friends list so i can see what my friends are playing and invite them or join them from with in the game that alone is worth £35 a year for me.