Is the N64 the Greatest Console of all Time?

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- 4 controller ports out of the box - scarce load times - AAAAA Single-Player games. - AAAAA Multi-Player games. Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Banjo & Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, Diddy Kong Racing, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Goemon's Great Adventure, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64, Wave Race, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Super Smash Bros., Bomberman 64, Episode 1: Racer, Body Harvest, Blast Corps, Turok 1 & 2, & Jet Force Gemini.
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I disagree. The SNES is my favorite system. It had excellent games for just about everyone, and the graphics tend to age better than those on the N64.

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I believe it is. It is certainly my favorite, and the one I have the fondest memories of.
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#4 CrazedDinosaur
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I believe it is. It is certainly my favorite, and the one I have the fondest memories of.charizard1605
no kidding, I got the N64 at Launch back in 1996, and there a huge blizzard that winter, with tempature -0 where I was. Nothing but Mario 64 and Wave Race, it was like sex.
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It's my favorite console, but that was when Nintendo started to get flak for no matter what they do, good or bad.
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#6 93BlackHawk93
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SNES is better.

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No, SNES, NES, PS1, PS2 are all greater in their time.

Heck, the PS3 & 360 will likely make that list in the end too.

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No, SNES, NES, PS1, PS2 are all greater in their time.

Heck, the PS3 & 360 will likely make that list in the end too.

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But if all those consoles make that list, the N64 also deserves to make that list. There was so much that it did, and so many high rated games that it had. The modern gaming industry literally would not have been the same without the N64.
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#9 nameless12345
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I don't think it is but I had a lot of fun with it.

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#10 Chris_Williams
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the ps2 is the greatest console of all time

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It's definitely my favorite.
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Snes

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#13 vashkey
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It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

No, SNES, NES, PS1, PS2 are all greater in their time.

Heck, the PS3 & 360 will likely make that list in the end too.

charizard1605

But if all those consoles make that list, the N64 also deserves to make that list. There was so much that it did, and so many high rated games that it had. The modern gaming industry literally would not have been the same without the N64.

how can the N64 make it on the better than the N64 list:P

N64 was good, but those systems were better. SNES marked Nintendo's peak. NES defined what a console was. PS1 defined what a modern console was with great 3rd party support. And the PS2, da everything.

N64 had several problem.

1. The controler was ackward. Revolutionary yes, but still horrible shaped.

2. Cartrages were expensive, and caused N64 game prices to be all over the place.

3. 3rd party support. N64 marked the beggining of 3rd party devs/pubs abandoning of Nintendo consoles for others.

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It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

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It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

charizard1605
It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

God no. How dare you mention the GC but not the SNES. :?
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#17 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

charizard1605
It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

... i mean the ps1 did slaughter it in sales, so i'm guessing it did have a little competition
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#18 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

charizard1605
It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

SNES, NES, GBA. The N64 had alot of game droughts. I'd say you could argue the GCN and Wii were better. None of their games had quite the impact as OoT or Mario 64 but they still had more games.
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#19 vashkey
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

Chris_Williams
It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

... i mean the ps1 did slaughter it in sales, so i'm guessing it did have a little competition

It also got good games more frequently.
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No....the PS2 it is the greatest console.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

No, SNES, NES, PS1, PS2 are all greater in their time.

Heck, the PS3 & 360 will likely make that list in the end too.

dercoo

But if all those consoles make that list, the N64 also deserves to make that list. There was so much that it did, and so many high rated games that it had. The modern gaming industry literally would not have been the same without the N64.

how can the N64 make it on the better than the N64 list:P

N64 was good, but those systems were better. SNES marked Nintendo's peak. NES defined what a console was. PS1 defined what a modern console was with great 3rd party support. And the PS2, da everything.

N64 had several problem.

1. The controler was ackward. Revolutionary yes, but still horrible shaped.

2. Cartrages were expensive, and caused N64 game prices to be all over the place.

3. 3rd party support. N64 marked the beggining of 3rd party devs/pubs abandoning of Nintendo consoles for others.

I know about all those problems :( The point is though, that the N64 flourished in spite of those problems. It had poor third party support yes, but man, it had the best games of the time. Rare and Nintendo had a never relenting stream of great core quality titles for it. Then there was the sheer number of things it got to the market- it was THE multiplayer console of its time, it got us rumble, and analog sticks... I know it did loads wrong (cartridges? That damn dinosaur claw controller?) But it STILL was an incredible, incredible console. Makes me wonder how great it would have been had third parties not jumped ship.
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Sorry, but PS2 disagrees in every aspect other then 4 player out of the box (remedied with a multitap).

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#23 commonfate
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Wrong board yo ;)

But no it's not the greatest console of all time

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It's not even the greatest console of its generation.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

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It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

God no. How dare you mention the GC but not the SNES. :?

Because I think that N64 and GC are marginally > SNES. Don't kill me!
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#26 Chris_Williams
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but seriously its the ps2, its so great its still selling millions to this day, come on, you can't argue with that

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] But if all those consoles make that list, the N64 also deserves to make that list. There was so much that it did, and so many high rated games that it had. The modern gaming industry literally would not have been the same without the N64.charizard1605

how can the N64 make it on the better than the N64 list:P

N64 was good, but those systems were better. SNES marked Nintendo's peak. NES defined what a console was. PS1 defined what a modern console was with great 3rd party support. And the PS2, da everything.

N64 had several problem.

1. The controler was ackward. Revolutionary yes, but still horrible shaped.

2. Cartrages were expensive, and caused N64 game prices to be all over the place.

3. 3rd party support. N64 marked the beggining of 3rd party devs/pubs abandoning of Nintendo consoles for others.

I know about all those problems :( The point is though, that the N64 flourished in spite of those problems. It had poor third party support yes, but man, it had the best games of the time. Rare and Nintendo had a never relenting stream of great core quality titles for it. Then there was the sheer number of things it got to the market- it was THE multiplayer console of its time, it got us rumble, and analog sticks... I know it did loads wrong (cartridges? That damn dinosaur claw controller?) But it STILL was an incredible, incredible console. Makes me wonder how great it would have been had third parties not jumped ship.

Some of them, at least. There were more on PS1.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

God no. How dare you mention the GC but not the SNES. :?

Because I think that N64 and GC are marginally > SNES. Don't kill me!

You must have never played Chrono Trigger aka the best JRPG of all time or Earthbound .
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na , ps1 , ps2 and snes are way better
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

It wasn't even the best console of it's generation. It wasn't even Nintendo's best console.

93BlackHawk93

It definitely was Nintendo's best. MAYBE the Gamecube comes close, but really, the N64 has no competition.

God no. How dare you mention the GC but not the SNES. :?

The GC and N64 were solid systems, but the lack of third party support on both really makes it difficult for me to declare either as great. What was outstanding on both systems was the first party support, but that's pretty much a given on any Nintendo system.

The NES and SNES were true greatness, because to me they were the epitome of what a good system should have: great, genre-defining and genre-creating first AND third party games, superb hardware, and legendary/well-deserved fame and popularity.

As the old saying goes, when I grew up, gaming was synonymous with "playing Nintendo". For a single console to do such a thing, to become the definition of gaming itself, I believe the NES takes the well-earned spot of Nintendo's greatest creation. Still, the SNES came and upped the ante in almost every way. To this day the SNES's games are some of the best/most beautiful sprite-based games ever made.

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I'm probably one of the few who think that the N64 pad had a brilliant design. Very ergonomic pad and revolutionary due to reintroducing the analog stick and rumble feature. Only problem was that the quality of the analog stick and the buttons themselves wasn't very high (the stick was also pretty slippery after some usage).

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Probably.

I mean it does have Pokemon Snap aka the best game evar.:P

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I'm probably one of the few who think that the N64 pad had a brilliant design. Very ergonomic pad and revolutionary due to reintroducing the analog stick and rumble feature. Only problem was that the quality of the analog stick and the buttons themselves wasn't very high (the stick was also pretty slippery after some usage).

nameless12345

The N64 controller appears to be very cheaply made, even moreso than the Sega Saturn controller. It's one of my disappointments in rebuying the system.

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#34 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

I'm probably one of the few who think that the N64 pad had a brilliant design. Very ergonomic pad and revolutionary due to reintroducing the analog stick and rumble feature. Only problem was that the quality of the analog stick and the buttons themselves wasn't very high (the stick was also pretty slippery after some usage).

hakanakumono

The N64 controller appears to be very cheaply made, even moreso than the Sega Saturn controller. It's one of my disappointments in rebuying the system.

I'd blame the reason on "made in China" instead of "made in Japan" (like the SNES pad was).

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Some of them, at least. There were more on PS1.

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Maybe so. I don't know, I might be wrong, but I believe N64 had more trendsetting games than the PS1 ever did? AGain, I may be wrong about this- I was a kid, my memory of the time isn't exactly the best.
You must have never played Chrono Trigger aka the best JRPG of all time or Earthbound .93BlackHawk93
Played the former, not the latter.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Some of them, at least. There were more on PS1.

charizard1605

Maybe so. I don't know, I might be wrong, but I believe N64 had more trendsetting games than the PS1 ever did? AGain, I may be wrong about this- I was a kid, my memory of the time isn't exactly the best.
You must have never played Chrono Trigger aka the best JRPG of all time or Earthbound .93BlackHawk93
Played the former, not the latter.

Eh, maybe with some western games. But what put Survival Horror on the map? Resident Evil. What marked the beginning of a JRPG golden age? FFVII. Criticism aside, this game put JRPGs on the map in the US.

The N64 had great western support, but the Japanese support is what made the PS1 the console of its generation.

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Eh, maybe with some western games. But what put Survival Horror on the map? Resident Evil. What marked the beginning of a JRPG golden age? FFVII. Criticism aside, this game put JRPGs on the map in the US.

The N64 had great western support, but the Japanese support is what made the PS1 the console of its generation.

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It's funny, because right now, it seems Nintendo has all the Japanese support, but no western support. Unfortunately, Japan no longer seems to be the center for innovation and trends in gaming anymore. And I would disagree that FF7 started the golden age for JRPGs- the SNES was the one, the only true golden era for those. Of course, that last part would be my opinion.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Eh, maybe with some western games. But what put Survival Horror on the map? Resident Evil. What marked the beginning of a JRPG golden age? FFVII. Criticism aside, this game put JRPGs on the map in the US.

The N64 had great western support, but the Japanese support is what made the PS1 the console of its generation.

charizard1605

It's funny, because right now, it seems Nintendo has all the Japanese support, but no western support. Unfortunately, Japan no longer seems to be the center for innovation and trends in gaming anymore. And I would disagree that FF7 started the golden age for JRPGs- the SNES was the one, the only true golden era for those. Of course, that last part would be my opinion.

I don't know if Nintendo has "all the Japanese support." Not even on handhelds anymore. And Japan is definitely struggling.

I don't think the greatest JRPGs of the SNES hold up to the greatest JRPGs of the PS1 and the PS2. And yes, my opinion.

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No it isn't the best console.

It's not even the best Nintendo console.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Eh, maybe with some western games. But what put Survival Horror on the map? Resident Evil. What marked the beginning of a JRPG golden age? FFVII. Criticism aside, this game put JRPGs on the map in the US.

The N64 had great western support, but the Japanese support is what made the PS1 the console of its generation.

hakanakumono

It's funny, because right now, it seems Nintendo has all the Japanese support, but no western support. Unfortunately, Japan no longer seems to be the center for innovation and trends in gaming anymore. And I would disagree that FF7 started the golden age for JRPGs- the SNES was the one, the only true golden era for those. Of course, that last part would be my opinion.

I don't know if Nintendo has "all the Japanese support." Not even on handhelds anymore. And Japan is definitely struggling.

I don't think the greatest JRPGs of the SNES hold up to the greatest JRPGs of the PS1 and the PS2. And yes, my opinion.

Really? Tecmo, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami... I think they have all the major ones. Maybe I'm missing someone? And yes, they don't have the support of the smaller Japanese devs, probably.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's funny, because right now, it seems Nintendo has all the Japanese support, but no western support. Unfortunately, Japan no longer seems to be the center for innovation and trends in gaming anymore. And I would disagree that FF7 started the golden age for JRPGs- the SNES was the one, the only true golden era for those. Of course, that last part would be my opinion.charizard1605

I don't know if Nintendo has "all the Japanese support." Not even on handhelds anymore. And Japan is definitely struggling.

I don't think the greatest JRPGs of the SNES hold up to the greatest JRPGs of the PS1 and the PS2. And yes, my opinion.

Really? Tecmo, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami... I think they have all the major ones. Maybe I'm missing someone? And yes, they don't have the support of the smaller Japanese devs, probably.

I'm not really sure about what you're talking about, because Japanese developers are stronger on the HD consoles than on the Wii.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I don't know if Nintendo has "all the Japanese support." Not even on handhelds anymore. And Japan is definitely struggling.

I don't think the greatest JRPGs of the SNES hold up to the greatest JRPGs of the PS1 and the PS2. And yes, my opinion.

hakanakumono

Really? Tecmo, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami... I think they have all the major ones. Maybe I'm missing someone? And yes, they don't have the support of the smaller Japanese devs, probably.

I'm not really sure about what you're talking about, because Japanese developers are stronger on the HD consoles than on the Wii.

I was talking more about the handhelds than the consoles.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Really? Tecmo, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami... I think they have all the major ones. Maybe I'm missing someone? And yes, they don't have the support of the smaller Japanese devs, probably.charizard1605

I'm not really sure about what you're talking about, because Japanese developers are stronger on the HD consoles than on the Wii.

I was talking more about the handhelds than the consoles.

Handhelds, yes.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I'm not really sure about what you're talking about, because Japanese developers are stronger on the HD consoles than on the Wii.

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I was talking more about the handhelds than the consoles.

Handhelds, yes.

As far as consoles are concerned, Sony has had it on lock since the original Playstation.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I'm not really sure about what you're talking about, because Japanese developers are stronger on the HD consoles than on the Wii.

hakanakumono

I was talking more about the handhelds than the consoles.

Handhelds, yes.

you're forgetting about the PSP.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I was talking more about the handhelds than the consoles.qewrewq

Handhelds, yes.

you're forgetting about the PSP.

No I'm not. Regardless of the PSP, Nintendo still has 3rd party support.

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#48 qewrewq
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No I'm not. Regardless of the PSP, Nintendo still has 3rd party support.

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ah, they do, but they don't have it exclusively for their handheld since the PSP has some strong support as well, unlike N64 VS PS1.

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N64 is my least favorite Nintendo console. I loved the damn thing, but it had very few games that I actually cared about.

SNES is probably my favorite of all time, but objectively its gotta be the PS2.

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#50 Jelley0
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The Sega Saturn was a better console.