Is the pc the reason the 360 lacks in exclusives?

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

no i'm not. i'm saying it's not a specific detail that you need to play to see. are you going to address the comments regarding uncharted?

CaseyWegner

It doesn't need to be specific. Not in this case.

If a game released right now with the graphics of super mario in the 1990s, would you need a DigitalFoundry to tell you the graphics suck? If you played Killzone 3 and gears 3, you can easily say Killzone 3 is better graphically. Games with better graphics were released before.

Now if the game was released in 2008, before killzone 2, and a review like that came up, it should be called into question. But for now, there are plenty of reasons to believe why that reviewer didn't think it was impressive, because it's not.

should i thank you for proving my point? why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't. the only point is that you don't have to have played the game to know what it looks like. something so generic is not specific and unless you want to be a hypocrit and change your argument now, stop talking about the graphics and address my comments about the uncharted reviews.

I didn't prove you point. You can't prove a negative. Prove to me that the graphics are good. I'm not seeing it. It's impressive what Epic did on such a weak console, but compared to PC and PS3 exclusives, it's nothing.

I already did address them.

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

no i'm not. i'm saying it's not a specific detail that you need to play to see. are you going to address the comments regarding uncharted?

CaseyWegner

It doesn't need to be specific. Not in this case.

If a game released right now with the graphics of super mario in the 1990s, would you need a DigitalFoundry to tell you the graphics suck? If you played Killzone 3 and gears 3, you can easily say Killzone 3 is better graphically. Games with better graphics were released before.

Now if the game was released in 2008, before killzone 2, and a review like that came up, it should be called into question. But for now, there are plenty of reasons to believe why that reviewer didn't think it was impressive, because it's not.

should i thank you for proving my point? why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't. the only point is that you don't have to have played the game to know what it looks like. something so generic is not specific and unless you want to be a hypocrit and change your argument now, stop talking about the graphics and address my comments about the uncharted reviews.

Let it go man, he's either too stupid (very very likely either way) to get what you're saying or he has no intention of ever answering you.

No, there are hardly any good 360/PC games. It's just a myth. The truth is the 360 simply has no games.

The 360 is an entry-level (bad) gaming PC. So yeah.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

It doesn't need to be specific. Not in this case.

If a game released right now with the graphics of super mario in the 1990s, would you need a DigitalFoundry to tell you the graphics suck? If you played Killzone 3 and gears 3, you can easily say Killzone 3 is better graphically. Games with better graphics were released before.

Now if the game was released in 2008, before killzone 2, and a review like that came up, it should be called into question. But for now, there are plenty of reasons to believe why that reviewer didn't think it was impressive, because it's not.

BattlefieldFan1

should i thank you for proving my point? why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't. the only point is that you don't have to have played the game to know what it looks like. something so generic is not specific and unless you want to be a hypocrit and change your argument now, stop talking about the graphics and address my comments about the uncharted reviews.

I didn't prove you point. You can't prove a negative. Prove to me that the graphics are good. I'm not seeing it. It's impressive what Epic did on such a weak console, but compared to PC and PS3 exclusives, it's nothing.

I already did address them.

i say "why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't." and then you ask me to prove to you that the graphics are good? :|

read my post again and respond to it...not just something that you want tosee.

no. you did not respond to my uncharted comments. for some reason you'vebeen talking about graphics over the last several posts.

If youre not a PC gamer the 360 is the console to own period.

Miketheman83

I think it is. Many games that 360 users claim to be exclusive, are also on the pc, and many 360 games that were exclusive, usually end up going multiplat. If the pc were to suddenly vanish from the earth, would the 360 library have a much larger, diverse exclusives library?

ispeakfact

Sort of a moot point, considering Microsoft owns Windows, so they can release what they want.

Other than that, some devs know a good game will sell well on the PC.

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

should i thank you for proving my point? why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't. the only point is that you don't have to have played the game to know what it looks like. something so generic is not specific and unless you want to be a hypocrit and change your argument now, stop talking about the graphics and address my comments about the uncharted reviews.

CaseyWegner

I didn't prove you point. You can't prove a negative. Prove to me that the graphics are good. I'm not seeing it. It's impressive what Epic did on such a weak console, but compared to PC and PS3 exclusives, it's nothing.

I already did address them.

i say "why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't." and then you ask me to prove to you that the graphics are good? :|

read my post again and respond to it...not just something that you want tosee.

no. you did not respond to my uncharted comments. for some reason you'vebeen talking about graphics over the last several posts.

Wow. Please go to a psychologist and take an IQ exam. There is no way your IQ can be over 65. No way.

I'm not trying to convince you that the graphics suckz0rs. I'm just saying there are many games released before shotguns of bore 3 that surpass it graphically. Noting how fast technology improves, graphics from 1 year ago can already feel dated and "crap" now. I'm saying that it is possible that the average gamer thinks the graphics sucks. You're saying it's impossible.

Seriously. With that twisted logic you have there, how do you even get by in life? Oh right, you play games to avoid real life.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

I didn't prove you point. You can't prove a negative. Prove to me that the graphics are good. I'm not seeing it. It's impressive what Epic did on such a weak console, but compared to PC and PS3 exclusives, it's nothing.

I already did address them.

BattlefieldFan1

i say "why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't." and then you ask me to prove to you that the graphics are good? :|

read my post again and respond to it...not just something that you want tosee.

no. you did not respond to my uncharted comments. for some reason you'vebeen talking about graphics over the last several posts.

Wow. Please go to a psychologist and take an IQ exam. There is no way your IQ can be over 65. No way.

I'm not trying to convince you that the graphics suckz0rs. I'm just saying there are many games released before shotguns of bore 3 that surpass it graphically. Noting how fast technology improves, graphics from 1 year ago can already feel dated and "crap" now. I'm saying that it is possible that the average gamer thinks the graphics sucks. You're saying it's impossible.

Seriously. With that twisted logic you have there, how do you even get by in life? Oh right, you play games to avoid real life.

if you are trying to convince me of anything other than that saying a game has bad graphics isn't a specific detail then you're wasting your time against, for the third time,an argument i never even made. are you going to respond to my comments regarding uncharted?

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i say "why do you keep trying to convince me that the graphics are bad? i don't care if they are or they aren't." and then you ask me to prove to you that the graphics are good? :|

read my post again and respond to it...not just something that you want tosee.

no. you did not respond to my uncharted comments. for some reason you'vebeen talking about graphics over the last several posts.

CaseyWegner

Wow. Please go to a psychologist and take an IQ exam. There is no way your IQ can be over 65. No way.

I'm not trying to convince you that the graphics suckz0rs. I'm just saying there are many games released before shotguns of bore 3 that surpass it graphically. Noting how fast technology improves, graphics from 1 year ago can already feel dated and "crap" now. I'm saying that it is possible that the average gamer thinks the graphics sucks. You're saying it's impossible.

Seriously. With that twisted logic you have there, how do you even get by in life? Oh right, you play games to avoid real life.

if you are trying to convince me of anything other than that saying a game has bad graphics isn't a specific detail then you're wasting your time against, for the third time,an argument i never even made. are you going to respond to my comments regarding uncharted?

It doesn't have to be specific because it's nothing noteworthy. Jesus.
We'll get to the Uncharted 3 comments after I drill this into your head, but it seems your horribly wired brain is incapable of understanding this concept.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

Wow. Please go to a psychologist and take an IQ exam. There is no way your IQ can be over 65. No way.

I'm not trying to convince you that the graphics suckz0rs. I'm just saying there are many games released before shotguns of bore 3 that surpass it graphically. Noting how fast technology improves, graphics from 1 year ago can already feel dated and "crap" now. I'm saying that it is possible that the average gamer thinks the graphics sucks. You're saying it's impossible.

Seriously. With that twisted logic you have there, how do you even get by in life? Oh right, you play games to avoid real life.

BattlefieldFan1

if you are trying to convince me of anything other than that saying a game has bad graphics isn't a specific detail then you're wasting your time against, for the third time,an argument i never even made. are you going to respond to my comments regarding uncharted?

It doesn't have to be specific because it's nothing noteworthy. Jesus.
We'll get to the Uncharted 3 comments after I drill this into your head, but it seems your horribly wired brain is incapable of understanding this concept.

you said "I consider any review that doesn't go in depth with what they hated about the game to be troll reviews."

the person commented on the graphics being bad and you used that as proof that he played the game. now you're saying that it's not specific and not noteworthy. nice 180 you did there. now, how about those uncharted comments?

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if you are trying to convince me of anything other than that saying a game has bad graphics isn't a specific detail then you're wasting your time against, for the third time,an argument i never even made. are you going to respond to my comments regarding uncharted?

CaseyWegner

It doesn't have to be specific because it's nothing noteworthy. Jesus.
We'll get to the Uncharted 3 comments after I drill this into your head, but it seems your horribly wired brain is incapable of understanding this concept.

you said "I consider any review that doesn't go in depth with what they hated about the game to be troll reviews."

the person commented on the graphics being bad and you used that as proof that he played the game. now you're saying that it's not specific and not noteworthy. nice 180 you did there. now, how about those uncharted comments?

The reviewer said the graphics suck, but graphics don't make the game. That was just something the reviewer said.

I didn't say that was proof he played the game. I know how bad it must be to have terrible memory, so I'll forgive you and reiterate what I said.

Gears 3's graphics is not noteworthy and PS3 games released 2 years ago stomp all over it. Therefore, it is plausible that someone out of the thousands don't find it impressive. Even then, the graphics remark was just a comment he made. He might be referring to the gray, bland color of the game.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

It doesn't have to be specific because it's nothing noteworthy. Jesus.
We'll get to the Uncharted 3 comments after I drill this into your head, but it seems your horribly wired brain is incapable of understanding this concept.

BattlefieldFan1

you said "I consider any review that doesn't go in depth with what they hated about the game to be troll reviews."

the person commented on the graphics being bad and you used that as proof that he played the game. now you're saying that it's not specific and not noteworthy. nice 180 you did there. now, how about those uncharted comments?

The reviewer said the graphics suck, but graphics don't make the game. That was just something the reviewer said.

I didn't say that was proof he played the game. I know how bad it must be to have terrible memory, so I'll forgive you and reiterate what I said.

Gears 3's graphics is not noteworthy and PS3 games released 2 years ago stomp all over it. Therefore, it is plausible that someone out of the thousands don't find it impressive. Even then, the graphics remark was just a comment he made. He might be referring to the gray, bland color of the game.

the graphics is the one and only thing you commented on from the example i gave and you said it was likely that he played it because of that. do not comment on my memory.

the reviewer commented, very unspecifically, on the graphics and the multiplayer and NOTHING else. that fits your above description of what you consider to be a troll review perfectly and yet you act like it's valid simply because it's a 360 game he was talking about. how about you address the uncharted comments?

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you said "I consider any review that doesn't go in depth with what they hated about the game to be troll reviews."

the person commented on the graphics being bad and you used that as proof that he played the game. now you're saying that it's not specific and not noteworthy. nice 180 you did there. now, how about those uncharted comments?

CaseyWegner

The reviewer said the graphics suck, but graphics don't make the game. That was just something the reviewer said.

I didn't say that was proof he played the game. I know how bad it must be to have terrible memory, so I'll forgive you and reiterate what I said.

Gears 3's graphics is not noteworthy and PS3 games released 2 years ago stomp all over it. Therefore, it is plausible that someone out of the thousands don't find it impressive. Even then, the graphics remark was just a comment he made. He might be referring to the gray, bland color of the game.

the graphics is the one and only thing you commented on from the example i gave and you said it was likely that he played it because of that. do not comment on my memory.

the reviewer commented, very unspecifically, on the graphics and the multiplayer and NOTHING else. that fits your above description of what you consider to be a troll review perfectly and yet you act like it's valid simply because it's a 360 game he was talking about. how about you address the uncharted comments?

*Likely*

I await your response. :lol:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

It doesn't have to be specific because it's nothing noteworthy. Jesus.
We'll get to the Uncharted 3 comments after I drill this into your head, but it seems your horribly wired brain is incapable of understanding this concept.

BattlefieldFan1

you said "I consider any review that doesn't go in depth with what they hated about the game to be troll reviews."

the person commented on the graphics being bad and you used that as proof that he played the game. now you're saying that it's not specific and not noteworthy. nice 180 you did there. now, how about those uncharted comments?

The reviewer said the graphics suck, but graphics don't make the game. That was just something the reviewer said.

I didn't say that was proof he played the game. I know how bad it must be to have terrible memory, so I'll forgive you and reiterate what I said.

Gears 3's graphics is not noteworthy and PS3 games released 2 years ago stomp all over it. Therefore, it is plausible that someone out of the thousands don't find it impressive. Even then, the graphics remark was just a comment he made. He might be referring to the gray, bland color of the game.

This right here proves you have never seen, touched, or played the game.

Here's a Gears 3 Screenshot:

Here's another if you aren't conviced of the color:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"]

The reviewer said the graphics suck, but graphics don't make the game. That was just something the reviewer said.

I didn't say that was proof he played the game. I know how bad it must be to have terrible memory, so I'll forgive you and reiterate what I said.

Gears 3's graphics is not noteworthy and PS3 games released 2 years ago stomp all over it. Therefore, it is plausible that someone out of the thousands don't find it impressive. Even then, the graphics remark was just a comment he made. He might be referring to the gray, bland color of the game.

BattlefieldFan1

the graphics is the one and only thing you commented on from the example i gave and you said it was likely that he played it because of that. do not comment on my memory.

the reviewer commented, very unspecifically, on the graphics and the multiplayer and NOTHING else. that fits your above description of what you consider to be a troll review perfectly and yet you act like it's valid simply because it's a 360 game he was talking about. how about you address the uncharted comments?

*Likely*

I await your response. :lol:

what's there to respond to? you said it. what is this? are you laughing at your own mistake and offering me a free punch or something?

i'm waiting for your response to the uncharted comments and to the rest of the above post.

and don't forget this.

you: "none of the user reviews for those 2 games had any troll-like comments."

you: "both these games didn't have a single troll review."

you later on: "- Ok, i'll give you that one."

and don't forget this.

you: "none of the user reviews for those 2 games had any troll-like comments."

you: "both these games didn't have a single troll review."

you later on: "- Ok, i'll give you that one."

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and don't forget this.

you: "none of the user reviews for those 2 games had any troll-like comments."

you: "both these games didn't have a single troll review."

you later on: "- Ok, i'll give you that one."

delta3074

not 100% sure what that means but thanks. :)

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="BattlefieldFan1"] Rofl... Yes, I have, dumbass. I suggest you read them. They're **** hilarious. 360 owners getting pissed that they got a garbage game as their prime exclusive of 2011.BattlefieldFan1

Your paranoid PS3 fanboy conspiracy theories are amusing. Be sure to check in with your local psychiatrist. I know it's heart breaking to find out that not a lot of people like those mediocre games.

ah but what about the casual market?

I dont know about 360 exclusives much but I wonder if you factor in Kentic games, guitar hero and the like what it then looks like.

SEANMCAD

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

ah but what about the casual market?

I dont know about 360 exclusives much but I wonder if you factor in Kentic games, guitar hero and the like what it then looks like.

SEANMCAD

again I am just asking from a 'facts on the table' standpoint. I am not a casual gamer by any stretch of the imagination.

I am saying if someone says '360 doesnt have many exlusives' are they or are they not factoring in the kentic

What the hell is kentic?

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"] casual market LMAO casuals dont even care about video games unless the game plays itself for you.

DeadMan1290

again I am just asking from a 'facts on the table' standpoint. I am not a casual gamer by any stretch of the imagination.

I am saying if someone says '360 doesnt have many exlusives' are they or are they not factoring in the kentic

What the hell is kentic?