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#101  Edited By SecretPolice
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I've spent less money this gen than any previous gen going back 30 years but yet have tons of games thanks to GWG so in that way it's been a Boon, not a Bust. :P

Now, if we're talking the power of the consoles and the excitement for lots-o-games pushing the boundaries then well, eh, yeah, kinda a bust.

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This has been one of my favourite generations so far.

Fantastic graphics, console games were never this stable, great AAA games, lots of unique indie games, remaster of many classics, gimmicks like Move and Kinnect and close to extinct, and on top of everything, out from the 80+ PS4 games i own, only 14 were purchased.

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@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

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I'm satisfied, but that's about it. I like my Wii U and my PS4, and I really like some of the games I've played on them (Bayonetta 2, The Witcher 3, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Metal Gear Solid V, Mario Kart 8, Batman: Arkham Knight, Super Smash Bros., Bloodborne, Xenoblade Chronicles X, to name just a few). But I think this gen feels more like a copy and paste of gen 7 with some ultimately meaningless updates.

I wrote a pretty comprehensive thread about this a few days ago, in fact. This gen just seems like a reiteration of last gen. There's nothing new here. Nothing fresh. So, I mean, I like it, in the sense I liked what I got last gen, and I'm just getting more now (but shinier and bigger), but there's nothing (or rarely anything) that gets me off my seat and makes me go "whoa" anymore.

The 3DS has probably been the best system of the generation so far, but this year is looking excellent for the PS4. Let's hope for the best.

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#105  Edited By Blazed
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@putaspongeon: Not sure how you forget Ratchet & Clank and Gravity Rush 2 but great list. 2016 is hype.

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@afrihan: Yes, and you should be thankful that you are oblivious to it.

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#107 GarGx1
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There certainly hasn't been a steady supply of good AAA exclusive games for the consoles, though it's likely too early in the gen to be overly jaded. Although I can see why a console only gamer (especially those with one console) may be feeling let down.

PC is just the same as it has always been, the games come like pellets from an automatic shotgun. Every month there are hits and misses released but there is always something good to play whether it's a multi-plat or full exclusive. Game droughts are certainly far less common than they are on their fixed hardware counterparts.

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#108  Edited By AzatiS
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@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Wow , you really mentioned Captain Toad ? As for Splatoon as much of a fun game it is , its far from an AAA caliber. Dont get me wrong , Nintendo did a nice job with that one. Its what im debating with many Sheep the last 2-3 years in forums as of what Nintendo missing , NEW IPs that is. Splatoon is definitly in the right direction.

So lets take Splatoon as an AAA caliber IP for the sake of argument and something other platforms missing big time ( which they are not , there are plenty of Arena shooters and more are coming like Overwatchers/Battleborn which Wii U will be missing but lets pretend they havent ) ...

The other 2 you mentioned are not even in the same league of games like Bloodborne , The Witcher 3, Metal Gear solid 5 etc ( not that Splatoon is but as i said for the sake of argument ). So , what was so big of a deal Wii U had except the usual , so far better than Wiis games assuming PS4 is PS3,5 and X1 , X361? Something isnt feeling right is it ? Specially when you go right now at metacritic and see the top 20 games of each console.

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@AzatiS said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Wow , you really mentioned Captain Toad ? As for Splatoon as much of a fun game it is , its far from an AAA caliber. Dont get me wrong , Nintendo did a nice job with that one. Its what im debating with many Sheep the last 2-3 years in forums as of what Nintendo missing , NEW IPs that is. Splatoon is definitly in the right direction.

So lets take Splatoon as an AAA caliber IP for the sake of argument ... The other 2 you mentioned are not even in the same league of games like Bloodborne , The Witcher 3, Metal Gear solid 5 etc ... So , what was so big of deal Wii U had except the usual or far better than Wiis games assuming PS4 is PS3,5 and X1 , X361? Something isnt feeling right is it ?

You keep saying that, that doesn't make it any less true. Splatoon is AAA alright, and it's a great experience.

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@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Bayonetta 2, XombiU, and a few others I'm forgetting

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#111  Edited By Ballroompirate
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This gen so far has been amazing compared to the first 4 years of last gen (which honestly really didn't pick up at all tell it's 5th year)

On top of my head I can list

  • MGSV
  • Fallout 4
  • The Witcher 3
  • Bloodborne
  • Halo 5
  • Xenoblade Chronicles X
  • Bayonetta 2
  • Splatoon
  • Until Dawn
  • Rise of The Tomb Raider
  • Super Smash Bros
  • DA3
  • Mad Max (honestly I loved this game, releasing it in Sept was a big mistake on the devs part)

Now if you want to add some PC games from 2012 tell now

  • Xcom 2
  • Undertale
  • Rebel Galaxy
  • Homeworld Remastered
  • Killing Floor 2
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Guild Wars 2 Hot

Then you have this year which is gonna be nuts (I'm sure this list isn't even gonna be complete)

  • FF15
  • Persona 5
  • Blade and Soul (technically came out a few years ago, but NA and EU just got it)
  • WoW legion
  • Black Desert
  • Zelda U
  • Star Fox
  • Persona 5
  • Doom
  • The Division
  • Overwatch
  • Mass Effect 4
  • Uncharted 4
  • Deus EX MD
  • Dark Souls 3
  • No Mans Sky
  • Geow 4
  • Firewatch
  • Dishonored 2
  • Battleborn
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
  • Total War Warhammer
  • Nier Automata

That's not even counting HH games, getting 2 awesome Fire Emblem games in the span of 4 years is amazing. If you think this gen sucks or is lack luster I'd suggest own more than 1 system, get yourself a HH, a decent gaming PC and profit. If you've done that and are still experiencing a "meh gen", I'd suggest you label that shit as a personal problem and find a different hobby.

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@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

None of the games you listed are "exactly the same" as their previous iterations. Mario Kart 8 is not "exactly the same" as Mario Kart 7. Smash 4 is definitely not "exactly the same" as Brawl. Bayonetta 2 definitely added and improved a good amount over Bayonetta 1. I agree that 3D World wasn't as good as the Galaxy games, still doesn't change the fact 3D world was still different in terms of controls, platforming, level design etc. from the Galaxy games and it was still a pretty good game nonetheless.

And holy crap you must no absolutely nothing about the Xenoblade series if you honestly believe that Xenoblade Chronicles X is the exact same game as the original Xenoblade. like holy **** that is some serious ignorance on your part. Anyone that has played both games or knows the slightest bit about either game would know you are completely off.

And what about Splatoon? Mario Maker? W101? Affordable Space Adventures? Fast Racing Neo? Probably alot of of other indie games on the eShop as well...

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@DJ-Lafleur said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

None of the games you listed are "exactly the same" as their previous iterations. Mario Kart 8 is not "exactly the same" as Mario Kart 7. Smash 4 is definitely not "exactly the same" as Brawl. Bayonetta 2 definitely added and improved a good amount over Bayonetta 1. I agree that 3D World wasn't as good as the Galaxy games, still doesn't change the fact 3D world was still different in terms of controls, platforming, level design etc. from the Galaxy games and it was still a pretty good game nonetheless.

And holy crap you must no absolutely nothing about the Xenoblade series if you honestly believe that Xenoblade Chronicles X is the exact same game as the original Xenoblade. like holy **** that is some serious ignorance on your part. Anyone that has played both games or knows the slightest bit about either game would know you are completely off.

And what about Splatoon? Mario Maker? W101? Affordable Space Adventures? Fast Racing Neo? Probably alot of of other indie games on the eShop as well...

You're arguing with Azati and expecting him to not be ignorant.

smh

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Ahh, Azati reveals his complete and utter cluelessness about Xenoblade and Splatoon again. I remember when he tried to argue that they aren't AAA- or in Xenoblade's case, focused on storytelling and production.

Fucking lol

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@charizard1605 said:

Ahh, Azati reveals his complete and utter cluelessness about Xenoblade and Splatoon again. I remember when he tried to argue that they aren't AAA- or in Xenoblade's case, focused on storytelling and production.

Fucking lol

He still argues that

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@mark1974 said:

Super Metroid will occasionally slow to a crawl. Like a few frames per second kind of crawl. It's also the best game ever made. My biggest pet peeve? Obsession with performance. Yeah it's sorta important but doesn't actually rate that high.

My biggest pet peeve is the poor performance or broken games. To me, it is very distracting if a game is not technically sound. I don't want to be constantly pulled out of the experience because of poor performance or bugs. Good solid performance should be the standard. It shouldn't even be an issue that is brought up. It should just be at a certain level.

I take it you are new to gaming and never play classic games. Compared to today they look like ass...but man were they fun.

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I think the first few years of the last gen felt like that for me and i ended up taking like a 2 year break then bought a new ps3 and caught up on everything and had a blast.

This gen i just didnt bother buying a new console until i felt like i wanted one and I am really enjoying my ps4 right now.

I imagine 16 year olds are loving this gen and will probably be the ones feeling this way in 5, 10, 15 years about a future generation.

Personally the only generation that had me excited from begining to end was ps2 that was the high point of my gaming career.

I think how big online became on last gen is important also because it was part of a huge leap forward from ps2 to ps3/360. This gen feels like an improved version of the last gen, not something fresh.

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@khoofia_pika said:
@charizard1605 said:

Ahh, Azati reveals his complete and utter cluelessness about Xenoblade and Splatoon again. I remember when he tried to argue that they aren't AAA- or in Xenoblade's case, focused on storytelling and production.

Fucking lol

He still argues that

It's like trying to reason and have dialog with a wild animal. No matter how hard you try to find intelligence and understanding, there will always be a gulf of void between each other.

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@Bigboi500 said:
@khoofia_pika said:
@charizard1605 said:

Ahh, Azati reveals his complete and utter cluelessness about Xenoblade and Splatoon again. I remember when he tried to argue that they aren't AAA- or in Xenoblade's case, focused on storytelling and production.

Fucking lol

He still argues that

It's like trying to reason and have dialog with a wild animal. No matter how hard you try to find intelligence and understanding, there will always be a gulf of void between each other.

Mostly because he keeps repeating what he said because he seems to think it made sense.

"Playing chess with a pigeon", something we System Warriors are very familiar with.

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#120  Edited By AzatiS
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@khoofia_pika said:
@AzatiS said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Wow , you really mentioned Captain Toad ? As for Splatoon as much of a fun game it is , its far from an AAA caliber. Dont get me wrong , Nintendo did a nice job with that one. Its what im debating with many Sheep the last 2-3 years in forums as of what Nintendo missing , NEW IPs that is. Splatoon is definitly in the right direction.

So lets take Splatoon as an AAA caliber IP for the sake of argument ... The other 2 you mentioned are not even in the same league of games like Bloodborne , The Witcher 3, Metal Gear solid 5 etc ... So , what was so big of deal Wii U had except the usual or far better than Wiis games assuming PS4 is PS3,5 and X1 , X361? Something isnt feeling right is it ?

You keep saying that, that doesn't make it any less true. Splatoon is AAA alright, and it's a great experience.

Of course im keep saying that. AAA caliber games having very high AAA production values and standards from scratch. Doesnt mean they will meet them but thats what they aiming from since the very first art on paper. Game wasnt AAA caliber since its scratch nor it met AAA score in the end. Period.

My proves to that ? Metacritic for score and Wiki that clearly stating that this game made by a single guy before Nintendo gives the ok for further development. Period again.

Its production value was more or less 1 and a half year when other simlar games are into their 3-4th year of development already which again scream "NO AAA CALIBER" let alone that its based in ONE OF THE SAME arena type shooters , that we got plenty of them already , and more are coming ( battleborn / Overwatchers ) with the ONLY difference that you splashing colors on the floor ... If because that single gameplay element makes this arena shooter AAA caliber , im SUPERMAN !\

Where are your proofs that game IS AAA caliber or AAA ? I stated mine. Im waiting.

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#121  Edited By AzatiS
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@putaspongeon said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Bayonetta 2, XombiU, and a few others I'm forgetting

Bayonetta 2 is the same experience as last gens and ZombiU was a bad game. Try again to show me what Wii U provided that better compared to Wii that makes PS4/X1 look PS3.5 and X361.

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#122 AzatiS
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@DJ-Lafleur said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

None of the games you listed are "exactly the same" as their previous iterations. Mario Kart 8 is not "exactly the same" as Mario Kart 7. Smash 4 is definitely not "exactly the same" as Brawl. Bayonetta 2 definitely added and improved a good amount over Bayonetta 1. I agree that 3D World wasn't as good as the Galaxy games, still doesn't change the fact 3D world was still different in terms of controls, platforming, level design etc. from the Galaxy games and it was still a pretty good game nonetheless.

And holy crap you must no absolutely nothing about the Xenoblade series if you honestly believe that Xenoblade Chronicles X is the exact same game as the original Xenoblade. like holy **** that is some serious ignorance on your part. Anyone that has played both games or knows the slightest bit about either game would know you are completely off.

And what about Splatoon? Mario Maker? W101? Affordable Space Adventures? Fast Racing Neo? Probably alot of of other indie games on the eShop as well...

What the hell do you mean "exactly the same". By that logic i can name you easily 20 games this very moment fitting the same criteria for PS4 and X1. What the hell is wrong with you ?

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@khoofia_pika said:
@DJ-Lafleur said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

None of the games you listed are "exactly the same" as their previous iterations. Mario Kart 8 is not "exactly the same" as Mario Kart 7. Smash 4 is definitely not "exactly the same" as Brawl. Bayonetta 2 definitely added and improved a good amount over Bayonetta 1. I agree that 3D World wasn't as good as the Galaxy games, still doesn't change the fact 3D world was still different in terms of controls, platforming, level design etc. from the Galaxy games and it was still a pretty good game nonetheless.

And holy crap you must no absolutely nothing about the Xenoblade series if you honestly believe that Xenoblade Chronicles X is the exact same game as the original Xenoblade. like holy **** that is some serious ignorance on your part. Anyone that has played both games or knows the slightest bit about either game would know you are completely off.

And what about Splatoon? Mario Maker? W101? Affordable Space Adventures? Fast Racing Neo? Probably alot of of other indie games on the eShop as well...

You're arguing with Azati and expecting him to not be ignorant.

smh

I love butthurt people , specially when they cant prove me wrong or coming with ridiculous arguments like Nintendo exclusive sequels " not exactly the same " when they dissing PS4/X1/PC exclusive sequels or even NEW IPs for the same reason or the epic " Splatoon is AAA " when Metacritic and many sites beg to differ BIG time or " Splatoon was AAA caliber game " because it had well reception/sales even if its production values and its prototype was made by a single person. Then im the ignorant !

Ignorance and hypocrisy at its finnest. Keep it up , i love it. Expose yourselfs more

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@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

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@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@BassMan said:
@mark1974 said:

Super Metroid will occasionally slow to a crawl. Like a few frames per second kind of crawl. It's also the best game ever made. My biggest pet peeve? Obsession with performance. Yeah it's sorta important but doesn't actually rate that high.

My biggest pet peeve is the poor performance or broken games. To me, it is very distracting if a game is not technically sound. I don't want to be constantly pulled out of the experience because of poor performance or bugs. Good solid performance should be the standard. It shouldn't even be an issue that is brought up. It should just be at a certain level.

I take it you are new to gaming and never play classic games. Compared to today they look like ass...but man were they fun.

I have been gaming since the early days. Telestar, Atari, Intellivision, Collecovision, Apple IIe, Commodore 64, 286, etc. There are not many truly classic games. Go back and play most of the old games that you liked and you will see they are not as fun as you remember. Nostalgia can play tricks with your mind.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that, but you don't. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

Thank you for encapsulating it so wonderfully.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

Lol , how and why to ? He was the one jumped in others debate/argument to call me names. Im the butthurt ? Lol , im the one explaining things , that wasnt an explanation. So , please , think what you want its ok , but when you talking to me or with me , you gonna have to be legit or youll take back your BS :) Thats all there is to it , if that makes me butthurt , ok ! If you say so , lol

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@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

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@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:

@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

Bye bye

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@khoofia_pika said:
@Bigboi500 said:

@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that, but you don't. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

Thank you for encapsulating it so wonderfully.

No problemo , im waiting your proofs still , when youll have some to make your opinion valid ,try again. Since then , cry more

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@khoofia_pika said:
@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:

@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

Bye bye

Thats it , you just shut it and move on because you have nothing more to say ! All these epic arguments for that kind of defeat ? So be it , im fine with that.

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@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:
@Bigboi500 said:

@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that, but you don't. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

Thank you for encapsulating it so wonderfully.

No problemo , im waiting your proofs still , when youll have some to make your opinion valid ,try again. Since then , cry more

I wasn't thanking you, but you just made my point.

You and I seem to have very different definitions of "proof", so I doubt you'll ever getting any satisfying "proof" for me.

Ping me when you stop being an ignorant idiot.

See ya!

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Someone needs to explain to me how Xenoblade is not AAA.

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The Witcher 3...Helldivers...This War of Mine, Homeworld DOK, Xcom 2...Shadowrun series...Armored Warfare, WarThunder, Rocket League, Euro/American Truck Simulator...too many!!!!

Anyway are you kidding? This gen has been amazing! The diversity of amazing titles are just mindblowing. AND MOAR ARE COMING AARRRHHHGGGGHHG!!!

Battletech, Star Citizen, Black Desert Online, For Honor, Mount & Blade 2, Homeworld 3, Torment, Deus Ex Mankind, Mass Effect Andro, Unravel, Overwatch, Firewatch, Total Warhammer, Shadow Warrior 2, Dreadnought, Dishonored 2, The Banner Saga 2, Divinity 2, Underworld Ascendant, Kingdom Come, WARHAMMER INQUISITOR, MOAR Space Engineers, MOAR Starbound, that new Terraria 1.5, Shardlight....ok i stop now. Theres everything for all genre. Its madness.

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@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@foxhound_fox said:

The Wii U has delivered great experiences in spades.

The rest are just... a joke. It's literally Xbox 361 and PS3.5.

How the hell Wii U delivered great experiences when all their games were exactly the same as previous generation ? What kind of fanboyism is this ?

Name me 2-3 games that stand out this generation than last generation for Wii U ... Mario kart or Smash ? Dont make me laugh ... Mario 3D ? Galaxies were better . Bayonetta or Xeno ?Same experiences as last games . Wii U is as much of one of the same experiences as PS3.5 and X361 you mentioned. No , it might be even worse since lacks all great 3rd party games. Prove me wrong

CyperPunk 2077 // The Last Guardian and various other titles only PS4/X1 are getting will be way more interesting and feel way more fresh than any Wii U title , literally. Period.

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Bayonetta 2, XombiU, and a few others I'm forgetting

Bayonetta 2 is the same experience as last gens and ZombiU was a bad game. Try again to show me what Wii U provided that better compared to Wii that makes PS4/X1 look PS3.5 and X361.

Bayonetta 2 was so much better than Bayonetta that it's pretty much not even the same game. Saying it's the same experience is hilarious.

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@khoofia_pika said:
@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:
@Bigboi500 said:

@AzatiS: Kinda ironic that you call people "butthurt" and "crying" but it's you who are acting like that. You talk about game series and franchises you've never bought or played, so it comes off as ignorant. People try to explain things to you, but you just bring up your own personal preferences and biases and seem to think everyone else sees the world through your peepers. They don't, and you should be old enough and smart enough to realize that, but you don't. Then they get frustrated with talking to a brick wall and move on.

Thank you for encapsulating it so wonderfully.

No problemo , im waiting your proofs still , when youll have some to make your opinion valid ,try again. Since then , cry more

I wasn't thanking you, but you just made my point.

You and I seem to have very different definitions of "proof", so I doubt you'll ever getting any satisfying "proof" for me.

Ping me when you stop being an ignorant idiot.

See ya!

You just made my point instead. You cant prove shit because whatever you saying are based on your opinion and your ego is skyrocketed in order to accept the obvious. Period.

Thats the problem with you. You calling an 81% , barely AA game as AAA and a game that made from a single guy as AAA caliber. I gave you proofs why , other than my opinion ,is NOT AAA and why is NOT AAA caliber and that making me ignorant idiot because im asking you to do the same if you can ?

hahahaha ! Ok ! You are easy opponent , get lost

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Someone needs to explain to me how Xenoblade is not AAA.

is not AAA calibre ill give you proof !!!!! look at visual, gameplay, budget, it is small scale game and doesnt competes with game like uncarted and god of war !!!!

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@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:

@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

What are AAA games? The only AAA game that has been good recently has been The Witcher 3 and maybe MGS 5.

Uncharted, Halo, Gears of War, etc etc, well there are MUCH smaller games that SHIT on these type of AAA.

AAA =/= Quality

Persona 5 isn't AAA and yet it's going to be one of the best games this year.

Tons of AAA games were dominated by non AAA throughout gaming.

Quality of game =/= how well it sells

Also this forum is about quality, if you meant financial situations, nintendo has a net profit, ps4 and xbox one are selling very well.

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*mindless, ignorant rabble*

Bye!

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@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Bayonetta 2, XombiU, and a few others I'm forgetting

Bayonetta 2 is the same experience as last gens and ZombiU was a bad game. Try again to show me what Wii U provided that better compared to Wii that makes PS4/X1 look PS3.5 and X361.

Bayonetta 2 was so much better than Bayonetta that it's pretty much not even the same game. Saying it's the same experience is hilarious.

Well you sound like Bayonetta 2 was AAAA while original Bayonetta was something like 6. Also you sound like original Bayonetta was an indie game compared to Bayonetta 2. Other than that the original argument was that a sheep stated only Wii U came up with something different , aka great , to play this generation while PS4/X1 are more like PS3.5 and X361. So games like Bayonetta 2 are out of equation because if you include bayonetta 2 in this then someone can easily call games like Witcher 3 and MGS 5 for the same reason ... So keep your fanboyism out of this , keep it on point or lets leave it.

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@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:

@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

What are AAA games? The only AAA game that has been good recently has been The Witcher 3 and maybe MGS 5.

Uncharted, Halo, Gears of War, etc etc, well there are MUCH smaller games that SHIT on these type of AAA.

AAA =/= Quality

Persona 5 isn't AAA and yet it's going to be one of the best games this year.

Tons of AAA games were dominated by non AAA throughout gaming.

Quality of game =/= how well it sells

Also this forum is about quality, if you meant financial situations, nintendo has a net profit, ps4 and xbox one are selling very well.

What do you mean MUCH smaller games that SHIT on these type of AAA ? What type ?

Who said you otherwise , im telling this to these guys for ages. That AAA caliber games might not sale as good as AA games , might not meet AAA standards in the end by large margin but that doesnt mean are not AAA caliber games ( Gran Turismo 5 anyone ? for example ).

And now Quality = how well it sells ? GTfo please :)

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@LJS9502_basic said:

I take it you are new to gaming and never play classic games. Compared to today they look like ass...but man were they fun.

I have been gaming since the early days. Telestar, Atari, Intellivision, Collecovision, Apple IIe, Commodore 64, 286, etc. There are not many truly classic games. Go back and play most of the old games that you liked and you will see they are not as fun as you remember. Nostalgia can play tricks with your mind.

No I still play old games and have fun. I'm not just invested in tech as the be all and end all of gaming.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@BassMan said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

I take it you are new to gaming and never play classic games. Compared to today they look like ass...but man were they fun.

I have been gaming since the early days. Telestar, Atari, Intellivision, Collecovision, Apple IIe, Commodore 64, 286, etc. There are not many truly classic games. Go back and play most of the old games that you liked and you will see they are not as fun as you remember. Nostalgia can play tricks with your mind.

No I still play old games and have fun. I'm not just invested in tech as the be all and end all of gaming.

Neither am I, but good tech creates opportunities for great experiences. I like a total package. Gameplay, performance, feel, visuals, sound design, atmosphere and overall design. All these things matter.

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I don't play games as much as i used to due to life being a bitch+responsibilities but bloodborbe, witcher 3 and mgsv were enough to fill my 2015 gaming time. Also this year i started tales of zesteria and i can't wait till SFV and uncharted 4 are out so it seems i have more than enough games to fill the first half of 2016

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Not for me, I'm loving this gen. I'm very happy with my PS4, and the Wii U is decent.

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@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Splatoon, Captain Toad, and TW101.

Bayonetta 2, XombiU, and a few others I'm forgetting

Bayonetta 2 is the same experience as last gens and ZombiU was a bad game. Try again to show me what Wii U provided that better compared to Wii that makes PS4/X1 look PS3.5 and X361.

Bayonetta 2 was so much better than Bayonetta that it's pretty much not even the same game. Saying it's the same experience is hilarious.

Well you sound like Bayonetta 2 was AAAA while original Bayonetta was something like 6. Also you sound like original Bayonetta was an indie game compared to Bayonetta 2. Other than that the original argument was that a sheep stated only Wii U came up with something different , aka great , to play this generation while PS4/X1 are more like PS3.5 and X361. So games like Bayonetta 2 are out of equation because if you include bayonetta 2 in this then someone can easily call games like Witcher 3 and MGS 5 for the same reason ... So keep your fanboyism out of this , keep it on point or lets leave it.

What's wrong with listing The Witcher 3, MGS 5 has amazing gameplay but it's overall a less fun game I'd say that past mgs games.

Witcher 3 however is a godly step up from witcher 2.

Witcher 3 is one of the best reasons to get a pc or current gen console, it's not exclusive however. If you need something better than witcher 3, you're going to have a hard time finding it.

I don't even have a wii u, bayonetta 2 is leaps and bounds better than the first one though. It's like comparing assassins creed to assassins creed 2.

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@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:
@khoofia_pika said:

@AzatiS: You made no point. Your arguments are baseless and ignorant.

I gave you my proofs as of why Splatoon is NOT an AAA game and Splatoon wasnt an AAA caliber game and all you had to say was that ? Baseless because i see AAA splatoon as barely AA at 81% at metacritic and ignorant because you keep ranting how Splatoon was AAA caliber game when a single guy made it to have fun with ? Hahaha !

Bye bye

What are AAA games? The only AAA game that has been good recently has been The Witcher 3 and maybe MGS 5.

Uncharted, Halo, Gears of War, etc etc, well there are MUCH smaller games that SHIT on these type of AAA.

AAA =/= Quality

Persona 5 isn't AAA and yet it's going to be one of the best games this year.

Tons of AAA games were dominated by non AAA throughout gaming.

Quality of game =/= how well it sells

Also this forum is about quality, if you meant financial situations, nintendo has a net profit, ps4 and xbox one are selling very well.

What do you mean MUCH smaller games that SHIT on these type of AAA ? What type ?

Who said you otherwise , im telling this to these guys for ages. That AAA caliber games might not sale as good as AA games , might not meet AAA standards in the end by large margin but that doesnt mean are not AAA caliber games ( Gran Turismo 5 anyone ? for example ).

And now Quality = how well it sells ? GTfo please :)

Learn how to read. I said AAA =/= quality and sales =/= quality

There are games that are much less successful and that have lower budgets than AAA that absolutely shit on the AAA games.

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@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:
@putaspongeon said:
@AzatiS said:

Bayonetta 2 is the same experience as last gens and ZombiU was a bad game. Try again to show me what Wii U provided that better compared to Wii that makes PS4/X1 look PS3.5 and X361.

Bayonetta 2 was so much better than Bayonetta that it's pretty much not even the same game. Saying it's the same experience is hilarious.

Well you sound like Bayonetta 2 was AAAA while original Bayonetta was something like 6. Also you sound like original Bayonetta was an indie game compared to Bayonetta 2. Other than that the original argument was that a sheep stated only Wii U came up with something different , aka great , to play this generation while PS4/X1 are more like PS3.5 and X361. So games like Bayonetta 2 are out of equation because if you include bayonetta 2 in this then someone can easily call games like Witcher 3 and MGS 5 for the same reason ... So keep your fanboyism out of this , keep it on point or lets leave it.

What's wrong with listing The Witcher 3, MGS 5 has amazing gameplay but it's overall a less fun game I'd say that past mgs games.

Witcher 3 however is a godly step up from witcher 2.

Witcher 3 is one of the best reasons to get a pc or current gen console, it's not exclusive however. If you need something better than witcher 3, you're going to have a hard time finding it.

I don't even have a wii u, bayonetta 2 is leaps and bounds better than the first one though. It's like comparing assassins creed to assassins creed 2.

Whats wrong ? Dont ask me , as the sheep that stated PS4/X1 has nothing great or fresh to play with except Wii U and i was wondering which games were that big of a difference to call that VS Wii. Bayonetta 2 by his logic , clearly is not one of them.

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@AzatiS: I see you have never been able to read, may I suggest going back to school since I never said anything like that.

Either you can't read or you're making bullshit up to try to discredit my point, which fucking failed.