It's definately high up there.
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No and it's because that first game was impossible to figure out. "Hey good luck figuring out what to do or where to go or finding what you need." And because of that very first game no, Zelda is not the best series ever. That belongs to either Super Mario Bros. or Metal Gear. Bread_or_Decide
You're absolutely right... Zelda 1 and 2 were not very good games at all.
It wasn't until The Link to the Past and Link's Awakening that Nintendo really made Zelda the gem that it is.
No and it's because that first game was impossible to figure out. "Hey good luck figuring out what to do or where to go or finding what you need." And because of that very first game no, Zelda is not the best series ever. That belongs to either Super Mario Bros. or Metal Gear. Bread_or_Decide
Welcome to many of the old-school adventures.
Seriously the only noteworthy titles in the series are the original(revolutionary, mixing elements from different genres, but still very outdated now a days), ALTTP(introduced most of the key elements that would be used in the following 2D ones after the breaking point Zelda 2 created, and even some would still hold in the 3D ones.) and OoT(introduced the 3D jump and its respective mechanics). These are the ones that introduced elements that would then be used over and over, and that had a certain impact because of that. The rest is only the expected step in time and technology that affect development along with the usual gimmick for hooking.
It is up there, but there are a bunch up there alongside.
How do you define best series ever? IMO Starcraft wins with the first title alone which is played professional to this very day
I think so. The games have consisten, high quality gameplay (with some exceptions of course) and are always fantastic. (again, some exceptions, mainly Phantom Hourglass.)
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[QUOTE="jer_1"]
:lol: No.
I would put Baldurs Gate series before Zelda for starters, easily.
lbjkurono23
why are you comparing two different genres?
The question was "is zelda the best series made", not "is zelda the best action adventure game".regardless you cant really compare a game thats not the same genre to another game that doesnt make sense. you could say what you prefer but you cant compare
The question was "is zelda the best series made", not "is zelda the best action adventure game".[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
why are you comparing two different genres?
jer_1
Bingo, Zelda is not the best game series ever made.
theres no such thing as a "best" gaming series theres too many genres. its a matter of opinion
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]Can't beat Assassin's Creed! :P Anyway, what turns me off Zelda is the fact that each storyline is basically the same thing. Sure, the presentation varies hugely, but the basic plot summary is always pretty much the same.the best action adventure series ever made, its never less then amazing each one
starjet905
i love assassin creed the first one was garbage though.
idk if assassin is the best series stackin up to zelda but its in my top
Can't beat Assassin's Creed! :P Anyway, what turns me off Zelda is the fact that each storyline is basically the same thing. Sure, the presentation varies hugely, but the basic plot summary is always pretty much the same.[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
the best action adventure series ever made, its never less then amazing each one
Mario1331
i love assassin creed the first one was garbage though.
idk if assassin is the best series stackin up to zelda but its in my top
The first one was the best unless you're really really REALLY shallowIf you asked me during the N64 era I would have said yes...
That being said, games have come so far in this time that they bring so much more to the experience than Zelda ever could/can now. Until Nintendo goes full NEXT GEN with a Zelda, the production values and everything else will be a step behind everything today. Yes the game is fun and the world in which zelda is told (Hyrule) is a blast to play in...but you kind of feel like the world could be so much more alive if Nintendo took that next step. Nowadays games like Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain; make you feel much more apart of their worlds and draw you into that experience more than ever...Id take those games over a Zelda as everything stands right now. Hopefully Nintendo proves me wrong in the future.
The question was "is zelda the best series made", not "is zelda the best action adventure game".[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
why are you comparing two different genres?
Mario1331
regardless you cant really compare a game thats not the same genre to another game that doesnt make sense. you could say what you prefer but you cant compare
No, tc asked a question and he answered. Simple as that it's got nothing to do with genres. and it was a given that his answere was an OPINION. :roll:[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] The question was "is zelda the best series made", not "is zelda the best action adventure game".
lbjkurono23
regardless you cant really compare a game thats not the same genre to another game that doesnt make sense. you could say what you prefer but you cant compare
No, tc asked a question and he answered. Simple as that it's got nothing to do with genres. and it was a given that his answere was an OPINION. :roll:he said baldurs gate is better and i said why are you comparing, idk why you constantly nagging me but on here people make there post sound like its factual.
i wasnt even asking you in the first place but w.e
[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="starjet905"] Can't beat Assassin's Creed! :P Anyway, what turns me off Zelda is the fact that each storyline is basically the same thing. Sure, the presentation varies hugely, but the basic plot summary is always pretty much the same.Cow4ever
i love assassin creed the first one was garbage though.
idk if assassin is the best series stackin up to zelda but its in my top
The first one was the best unless you're really really REALLY shallowthe first one was bad, too much running back and forth, backtracking, and their wasnt much variety in the missions, i like AC2 the best brotherhood was pretty sick too
he said baldurs gate is better and i said why are you comparing, idk why you constantly nagging me but on here people make there post sound like fats.
i wasnt even asking you in the first place but w.e
Mario1331
He answered the question and gave a series that he felt was better, tc never specified genres so any series is accepted.
PM him the next time if you want it to be just the two of you, this is a forum for everyone to discuss.
ps:I've replied to you about two times, far from nagging.
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
he said baldurs gate is better and i said why are you comparing, idk why you constantly nagging me but on here people make there post sound like fats.
i wasnt even asking you in the first place but w.e
lbjkurono23
He answered the question and gave a series that he felt was better, tc never specified genres so any series is accepted.
PM him the next time if you want it to be just the two of you, this is a forum for everyone to discuss.
ps:I've replied to you about two times, far from nagging.
anytime you reply theres nothing positive, i dont mind debates im open for one but it SEEMS you have an issue with anything i post and this is the third time....i did not say it was for me and him im just saying i asked him a question he didnt say" IMO' or "I prefer" he just said baldurs gate is better then zelda its not hard to grasp
The first one was the best unless you're really really REALLY shallow[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
i love assassin creed the first one was garbage though.
idk if assassin is the best series stackin up to zelda but its in my top
Mario1331
the first one was bad, too much running back and forth, backtracking, and their wasnt much variety in the missions, i like AC2 the best brotherhood was pretty sick too
So? It had much better and deeper story, much better combat system, much better characters and voiceacting. And what you mean running back and forth? You mean between the 3 cities? That was great. Backtracking, u mean preparing for a mission like a real assassin and not a naive wannabe? ACI had its flaws but it had great potential that the sequels completely wasted.[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
he said baldurs gate is better and i said why are you comparing, idk why you constantly nagging me but on here people make there post sound like fats.
i wasnt even asking you in the first place but w.e
Mario1331
He answered the question and gave a series that he felt was better, tc never specified genres so any series is accepted.
PM him the next time if you want it to be just the two of you, this is a forum for everyone to discuss.
ps:I've replied to you about two times, far from nagging.
anytime you reply theres nothing positive, i dont mind debates im open for one but it SEEMS you have an issue with anything i post and this is the third time....i did not say it was for me and him im just saying i asked him a question he didnt say" IMO' or "I prefer" he just said baldurs gate is better then zelda its not hard to grasp
Like I said three times in four years is far from nagging, and theres nothing negative about my post. I said his answer was acceptable because tc never specified genres. You're trying to make this bigger than it really is.
It's pretty easy to tell when someone is sharing an opinion, you don't need them to write "IMO" or "I prefer" in every sentence.
So? It had much better and deeper story, much better combat system, much better characters and voiceacting. And what you mean running back and forth? You mean between the 3 cities? That was great. Backtracking, u mean preparing for a mission like a real assassin and not a naive wannabe? ACI had its flaws but it had great potential that the sequels completely wasted.Cow4ever
Try poorly fleshed out and explained. :lol:
The combat in AC1 was sticky and unruly.
More like climb to the top of random points in the city until you were allowed to continue.
Much as I dislike the AC series, AC2 and ACB improved on the first game, which aside from being a technical wonder to behold, played like crap.
[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]So? It had much better and deeper story, much better combat system, much better characters and voiceacting. And what you mean running back and forth? You mean between the 3 cities? That was great. Backtracking, u mean preparing for a mission like a real assassin and not a naive wannabe? ACI had its flaws but it had great potential that the sequels completely wasted.mmmwksil
Try poorly fleshed out and explained. :lol:
The combat in AC1 was sticky and unruly.
More like climb to the top of random points in the city until you were allowed to continue.
Much as I dislike the AC series, AC2 and ACB improved on the first game, which aside from being a technical wonder to behold, played like crap.
I can agree with this. AC1 got boring and repetitive extremely quickly.[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]So? It had much better and deeper story, much better combat system, much better characters and voiceacting. And what you mean running back and forth? You mean between the 3 cities? That was great. Backtracking, u mean preparing for a mission like a real assassin and not a naive wannabe? ACI had its flaws but it had great potential that the sequels completely wasted.mmmwksil
Try poorly fleshed out and explained. :lol:
The combat in AC1 was sticky and unruly.
More like climb to the top of random points in the city until you were allowed to continue.
Much as I dislike the AC series, AC2 and ACB improved on the first game, which aside from being a technical wonder to behold, played like crap.
1. Are you kidding me? It's much deeper than the sequels. For example the dialogues after each assassinations was interesting whereas in the sequels there was hardly nothing! There was no purpose. Just a stereotypical good vs evil 2. It wasn't perfect but at least somewhat challenging compared to the sequels. You couldn't kill 50 guys by one press of a button 3. You didn't have to do that at all. AC2 did improve some things but some other things went worse as the story for example. ACB did absolutely nothing and is one of the worst games I ever played.[QUOTE="mmmwksil"][QUOTE="Cow4ever"]So? It had much better and deeper story, much better combat system, much better characters and voiceacting. And what you mean running back and forth? You mean between the 3 cities? That was great. Backtracking, u mean preparing for a mission like a real assassin and not a naive wannabe? ACI had its flaws but it had great potential that the sequels completely wasted.Cow4ever
Try poorly fleshed out and explained. :lol:
The combat in AC1 was sticky and unruly.
More like climb to the top of random points in the city until you were allowed to continue.
Much as I dislike the AC series, AC2 and ACB improved on the first game, which aside from being a technical wonder to behold, played like crap.
1. Are you kidding me? It's much deeper than the sequels. For example the dialogues after each assassinations was interesting whereas in the sequels there was hardly nothing! There was no purpose. Just a stereotypical good vs evil 2. It wasn't perfect but at least somewhat challenging compared to the sequels. You couldn't kill 50 guys by one press of a button 3. You didn't have to do that at all. AC2 did improve some things but some other things went worse as the story for example. ACB did absolutely nothing and is one of the worst games I ever played.I'll have to give you those points, Cow. To be honest, I didn't finish ACB or AC2 because I lost interest. Though they improved on what I mentioned, it still wasn't enough to keep me motivated to play.
Though you are wrong about AC1 (or most like I am getting my memories mixed up). Before you were allowed to embark on assassinations you had to do a number of pointless fetch quests/touch the flag miniquests. These REALLY broke up the pace of the game, and ruined the experience.
1. Are you kidding me? It's much deeper than the sequels. For example the dialogues after each assassinations was interesting whereas in the sequels there was hardly nothing! There was no purpose. Just a stereotypical good vs evil 2. It wasn't perfect but at least somewhat challenging compared to the sequels. You couldn't kill 50 guys by one press of a button 3. You didn't have to do that at all. AC2 did improve some things but some other things went worse as the story for example. ACB did absolutely nothing and is one of the worst games I ever played.[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]
Try poorly fleshed out and explained. :lol:
The combat in AC1 was sticky and unruly.
More like climb to the top of random points in the city until you were allowed to continue.
Much as I dislike the AC series, AC2 and ACB improved on the first game, which aside from being a technical wonder to behold, played like crap.
mmmwksil
I'll have to give you those points, Cow. To be honest, I didn't finish ACB or AC2 because I lost interest. Though they improved on what I mentioned, it still wasn't enough to keep me motivated to play.
Though you are wrong about AC1 (or most like I am getting my memories mixed up). Before you were allowed to embark on assassinations you had to do a number of pointless fetch quests/touch the flag miniquests. These REALLY broke up the pace of the game, and ruined the experience.
Yeah AC2 did improve on certain things although also made some things worse. But only AC2 did these changes not ACB. Yes I agree especially the flagfetching was pretty stupid. But even if it was flawed it had potential IMO assassins should prepare for a mission. Also for me it was a great way to explore the beatuiful cities so I did all the non-obligatory tasks as well.nope every boss is gannon (except for like 3) almasdeathchild
They've been making largely the same game for years and years with minor differences.Chemical_VikingAbsolutely false, 6 games, not 3, and going on 7. The other statement is false for in many and obvious degrees.
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