It is so ****** unfair with the xbox 360 and PS3.

If we follow the OP logic Wii looses hard to Ps2

Wii has lower graphics standard, yes.

Gameplay, not so much.

If we follow the OP logic Wii looses hard to Ps2

Theclub83

Wii has lower graphics standard, yes.

Gameplay, not so much.

EuroMafia

um.. false.

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Fireball2500

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

The wii doesn't output at 720p 480p is the highest funny when even the xbox output a 720p.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Musa_007

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

Because the 360 and ps3 deserve to not be given same criteria for good games as the wii.Same goes for the PC actually.Look at UT3,that game didnt even get technical graphics medal on the PC cuz crysis has raised the bar and reviewers will deal harshly to those games whos devs didnt devote so much resources to technology thus resulting in less AAA and AA games than what they could be.

Aren't games only compared to other games present on the same platform as well as to the capabilities of the platform? What does the Wii have to do with the PS3 and the 360?

[QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

princeofshapeir

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

I think that Galaxy looks better than some PS3 and 360 games, not all of them. It easily outclasses the majority of the games at both system's launch. It's not on the same level as Uncharted or Gears of War, but Galaxy does look just as good, if not better, than many lazy ports/multi-plats on the 360 and PS3.

What in the heck are you smokin on, better than some PS3 and 360 games and most of their launch titles? Serious I know you love the wii and all, but spouting garbage like that makes any arguement you make void. I saw SSBB the other day it indeed looked good and so those SMG, but nothing compared to what you can find on the other systems.

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.

Fireball2500

Since you couldn't spend the time to read and quote your own link, I did it for you.

Similar in detail to Super Mario Sunshine, but with some beautiful effects for water, reflective surfaces, and particles. The game also looks surprisingly good on huge HDTVs

GameInformer

Yeah, that really says a lot. Some of the graphical elements only match Mario Sunshine, a last gen game. And they were "surprised" that SMg looked good on a HDTV. Again, what does that mean? Look "good" when compared to all of those Wii titles that look horrible? Looks "good" compared to REAL HD graphics like Gears, Bioshock, and Uncharted?

I think we all know what they meant.

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.

The_Dan_K

Since you couldn't spend the time to read and quote your own link, I did it for you.

Similar in detail to Super Mario Sunshine, but with some beautiful effects for water, reflective surfaces, and particles. The game also looks surprisingly good on huge HDTVs

GameInformer

Yeah, that really says a lot. Some of the graphical elements only match Mario Sunshine, a last gen game. And they were "surprised" that SMg looked good on a HDTV. Again, what does that mean? Look "good" when compared to all of those Wii titles that look horrible? Looks "good" compared to REAL HD graphics like Gears, Bioshock, and Uncharted?

I think we all know what they meant.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

princeofshapeir

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

princeofshapeir

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

RazMaTaz-1

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

Thats why I don't own a wii right there. Just got my brother an xbox and got him those two games right and graphically beats anything on the wii, but wii owners want us to believe that the wii can compare to some ps3 and 360 games when it can't even touch the xbox's best?

The fact the highest resolution possible on the wii is 480p means it can't compare with any of the 360's or PS3's games. 720p and higher are a big difference from 480p.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

Fireball2500

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

Musa_007

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

deebo_x

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

Thats why I don't own a wii right there. Just got my brother an xbox and got him those two games right and graphically beats anything on the wii, but wii owners want us to believe that the wii can compare to some ps3 and 360 games when it can't even touch the xbox's best?

The fact the highest resolution possible on the wii is 480p means it can't compare with any of the 360's or PS3's games. 720p and higher are a big difference from 480p.

QFT

49 posts? DMC avatar?Level 2? pass............nintendo-4life

where you talking to me? GS is glitching again. Im level 20, not level 2 lol

Does it really matter? Do games need to look good to be fun? The answer is no. I mean if games NEEDED good graphics then I'm astonished the handheld market is still alive and kicking... If a game is fun it shouldn't much matter what it looks like.

Reviewers can't judge the graphics on the Wii and compare them directly to PS3 and 360 games because we know it's technically impossible for them to look as good. That's like comparing the 360/PS3 to what a high end gaming computer can do. Reviewers don't expect Crysis level graphics so they don't hold that against consoles.

Reviewers base their scores on what the console is capable of, not what else is out there. I mean a Honda Civic is a good car that gets good reviews, but should we compare it to a Dodge Viper even though they are targeted for different markets and have a huge price difference between them?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

RazMaTaz-1

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

karasill

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

odd. I own the Xbox version and looks quite identical to that. As people say, Pictures never do justice. Only can be proven through HQ Videos.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]49 posts? DMC avatar?Level 2? pass............RazMaTaz-1

where you talking to me? GS is glitching again. Im level 20, not level 2 lol

anyway i have some amazing stuff for you that will shut you up (no offense) so get ready to have your world rocked!, i'll make this into a 20 page argument :D....... but not now i'm tired -_-

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

RazMaTaz-1

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

odd. I own the Xbox version and looks quite identical to that. As people say, Pictures never do justice. Only can be proven through HQ Videos.

NGB is nice, but yet again a lot of the resources went into realtively small enviroments which lacked detail. All the great looking games on the Xbox only look good due to sacrifices that most don't notice right away.

SMG is easily better looking from a technical level as it does use shaders, has normal mapping, has HUGE levels, runs at 60 fps in widescreen 480p.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

karasill

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

1) OMG, you gotta be kidding. Its safe to say that you have never owned an Xbox. The difference in graphics between the GC version of RE and Wii is minimum. None of the games mentioned come clost to Riddick or Gaiden.

Ninja Gaiden Black:

These games easily touch onto Next gen.

2) I didnt buy the game, i got it free as a gift. Ive seen it in motion, on a 62" HDTV 1080p and no its no way comparible to God OF war PSP, regardless how bad the game sucks

3) its an oppinion, not a fact.

odd. I own the Xbox version and looks quite identical to that. As people say, Pictures never do justice. Only can be proven through HQ Videos.

NGB is nice, but yet again a lot of the resources went into realtively small enviroments which lacked detail. All the great looking games on the Xbox only look good due to sacrifices that most don't notice right away.

SMG is easily better looking from a technical level as it does use shaders, has normal mapping, has HUGE levels, runs at 60 fps in widescreen 480p.

hmm, well thats your oppinion. NGB looks alot better. Taking into note that i aint playing it in HD because that distorts the picture, and 480p is not a big deal. thats standard definition. PS1 had that lol.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

Fireball2500

Nice that you skip COD3 and COD4 both of which are known to be operating at sub 720p resolutions to allow for a more stable framerate.

hmm, well thats your oppinion. NGB looks alot better. Taking into note that i aint playing it in HD because that distorts the picture, and 480p is not a big deal. thats standard definition. PS1 had that lol.RazMaTaz-1

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

if they were all graded the same the wii couldn't get above a A game.

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

actionquake

Nice that you skip COD3 and COD4 both of which are known to be operating at sub 720p resolutions to allow for a more stable framerate.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]hmm, well thats your oppinion. NGB looks alot better. Taking into note that i aint playing it in HD because that distorts the picture, and 480p is not a big deal. thats standard definition. PS1 had that lol.karasill

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

Well seeing as people are debating on SMG whether the graphics compare to other games or not.

Why not use Ratchet and Clank? Seeing as their both cartoonish.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Um compared to the system each critic expects more.

Critics bashed Fire Emblem for looking way too dated.

Praised games like Mario Galaxy for really looking good for a wii game.

SOme were 50/50 with Metroid Prime 3. SOme felt it looked great, the others felt it looked to much like Metroid PRime 2.

Brawl was also praised for looking good.

The best games on the wii usually have good graphics. Not 360/PS3 quality, but good graphics.

360 and PS3 are held to a higher standards in graphics, but honestly games like Halo 3 and Orange Box werent visual masterpieces and both were excellent games that didnt get bashed to hard.Musa_007

And looking identical on both wii and GC why did both versions of TP got the same score in graphics then??:|

duh... because it was developed for the GC first, then they ported it to the wii.

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Its true. This is coming from a nintendo fan too. Most of Wii's games stink. The only decent ones are the ones from nintendo themselves.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

beinss

Its true. This is coming from a nintendo fan too. Most of Wii's games stink. The only decent ones are the ones from nintendo themselves.

there are some good 3rd party ones too: NMH, GH, Zack and Wiki...

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

RazMaTaz-1

I'm not saying NGB doesn't look great but from a technical level it's not quite up to par as SMG. I'm mostly a PC gamer so maybe I just have a sharper eye for this and maybe the colors in SMG are mis-leading you. You can't argue that SMG doesn't use more advanced graphical bells and whistles then either game you mentioned. Because it does. Maybe you just prefer the artstyle in NGB over SMG and that's why it looks better to you.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]hmm, well thats your oppinion. NGB looks alot better. Taking into note that i aint playing it in HD because that distorts the picture, and 480p is not a big deal. thats standard definition. PS1 had that lol.RazMaTaz-1

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

Those character models are pretty good, but everything else compared to Galaxy or Brawl is bad. The ground textures are god-awful in that screenshot.

I still stand by the notion that GameSpot reviews Wii games with the same standards as 360 and PS3 games. I think that some fanboys are in dismay over the Wii getting two solid 9.5 games in less than six monhs.princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

karasill

I'm not saying NGB doesn't look great but from a technical level it's not quite up to par as SMG. I'm mostly a PC gamer so maybe I just have a sharper eye for this and maybe the colors in SMG are mis-leading you. You can't argue that SMG doesn't use more advanced graphical bells and whistles then either game you mentioned. Because it does. Maybe you jsut prefer the artstyle in NGB over SMG and that's why it looks better to you.

Well i cant find any pictures showing off its large enviroments that are high res. You probably can appreciate all these things like AA, shaders, etc because you are a PC gamer. I for one dont really care about that stuff, they are just "features" to me. Not once have i mentioned anything about AA or shaders in a game. To me, a game either looks good, not so good, or rubbish. Not bothered with all this tech stuff, because at the end of the day, to me, the game either looks good or bad. Maybe it is the art style, who knows.

Good point.The way they review the games for the Wii is different isnt it.They dont expect nearly as much from the Wii visually and it doesnt affect the review.xgraderx

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

RazMaTaz-1

I'm not saying NGB doesn't look great but from a technical level it's not quite up to par as SMG. I'm mostly a PC gamer so maybe I just have a sharper eye for this and maybe the colors in SMG are mis-leading you. You can't argue that SMG doesn't use more advanced graphical bells and whistles then either game you mentioned. Because it does. Maybe you jsut prefer the artstyle in NGB over SMG and that's why it looks better to you.

Well i cant find any pictures showing off its large enviroments that are high res. You probably can appreciate all these things like AA, shaders, etc because you are a PC gamer. I for one dont really care about that stuff, they are just "features" to me. Not once have i mentioned anything about AA or shaders in a game. To me, a game either looks good, not so good, or rubbish. Not bothered with all this tech stuff, because at the end of the day, to me, the game either looks good or bad. Maybe it is the art style, who knows.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I still stand by the notion that GameSpot reviews Wii games with the same standards as 360 and PS3 games. I think that some fanboys are in dismay over the Wii getting two solid 9.5 games in less than six monhs.karasill

Graphics is the only exception. Everything else that goes into reviewing a Wii game is based on the same standards for reviewing a game on other consoles.

By TCs logic alll consoles should get worthless scores because of inferior graphic..

It is so unfair! People only think aout the consoles on system wars.. Therfore they get selfowned..