It is so ****** unfair with the xbox 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I still stand by the notion that GameSpot reviews Wii games with the same standards as 360 and PS3 games. I think that some fanboys are in dismay over the Wii getting two solid 9.5 games in less than six monhs.princeofshapeir

Graphics is the only exception. Everything else that goes into reviewing a Wii game is based on the same standards for reviewing a game on other consoles.

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

I notice how you took "SMG has amazing graphics" to mean "I think there's no difference between SMG and actual HD titles." That's clearly not what was said.

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

SUD123456

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

--ProtoMan--

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

Exactly

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

--ProtoMan--

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

Smart people are rare on System Wars. Welcome to the club.

Yeah the Wii and really Nintendo themselves get way too much slack when it comes to graphics and design. But really with 360/PS3 the games that have bad graphics have also been for the most part really bad anyways. But yeah if something like Disgaea3 gets lowered for bad graphics then there's some real unfair pro Nintendo bias.Lazy_Boy88

Say what? :?

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

LOL..JOKE POST?

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

Hexagon_777

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

Smart people are rare on System Wars. Welcome to the club.

thats why most people here dont count the wii in the same catagory as 360 and ps3.;)...."smart guy"

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Cmon some not many.. thats a bit over exaggerated.

However, Althought the PS3 and 360 have far superior graphics, there are tons of games (and this applies to all consoles) that have beautiful graphics but are horrible.

So whats the moral lesson of the day? Graphics doesnt mean everything

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Talk about fair....

All Wii games are 10-20% cheaper than equivalent PS3/360 games. Therefore, all PS3/360 games should be docked 1-2 fullpoints.

Furthermore, all Wii games making effective use of the motion controller deserve better scores

Which is more realistic....swinging a somewhat life like bat...or pushing a button on a regular controller.

Wii games are getting ripped off....waa....waah

See where I am going with this

/thread

mclovin401

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

Smart people are rare on System Wars. Welcome to the club.

thats why most people here dont count the wii in the same catagory as 360 and ps3.;)...."smart guy"

Just like how most people don't count the PC in the same category as the 360 or PS3? ;)

Either way, this is System Wars. Why split platforms into categories? So you don't feel that your platform of choice isn't a total goner?

Yeah, what a ridiculous notion, that the graphics of a game should be compared to the overall capabilities of other games on that platform.drewtwo99

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Has it ever occured to you that many of the games on the PS3 and 360 do not have stable framerates, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl have excellent graphics and run at a solid 60FPS?

actionquake

Nice that you skip COD3 and COD4 both of which are known to be operating at sub 720p resolutions to allow for a more stable framerate.

All I have to say playing Brawl and Galaxy in 480p is good enough for the Wii, because you'll be too busy in actually playing and enjoying the game.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]49 posts? DMC avatar?Level 2? pass............nintendo-4life

where you talking to me? GS is glitching again. Im level 20, not level 2 lol

anyway i have some amazing stuff for you that will shut you up (no offense) so get ready to have your world rocked!, i'll make this into a 20 page argument :D....... but not now i'm tired -_-

im a ps3 owner, an i am thinking about buying a wii (no point in having a 360 if i have the ps3)

an i just want it because it has games that seem to have good quality and gameplay an that are only on the wii. i.e. ssbb, no more heroes, super mario galaxy etc. but when it comes to a game, gameplay should be the number one thing to be reviwed. if its fun playing, its obviously a good game.

when people compare set criterias like graphics, i think its pretty dumb to put it on a higher tier of whats important, what are they gonna do? stand in front of the tv with a magnifying glass?

I say we start penalizing 360 games for not having motion control...

What? Somebody says that's not fair, because 360 doesn't support motion control? Precisely my point.

--ProtoMan--

Why would the 360 get penalized when Wii games do not get penalized for that, take SSBB for example. The Wii gets a pass on many different things, online, graphics, story, etc..

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

You aren't a whiny little wanker. :roll:

Yeah, what a ridiculous notion, that the graphics of a game should be compared to the overall capabilities of other games on that platform.drewtwo99

Or, the rediculous notion, they should be compared to the console itself's processing power.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]hmm, well thats your oppinion. NGB looks alot better. Taking into note that i aint playing it in HD because that distorts the picture, and 480p is not a big deal. thats standard definition. PS1 had that lol.karasill

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

meh, hardly any difference betwen 480i and 480p. Kinda useless since more resolutions nowerdays are 720p standard. as for NG, CG like characters. Graphics are HIGHLY detailed, enviroments are huge too, and runs at constant 60FPS, and the gameplay is just pure bliss. SMG is just bright and colourful imo, thats all. Riddick is highly detailed ,regardless of the inferior Xbox version, the graphics are still damn amazing and touching next gen.

RazMaTaz-1

I'm not saying NGB doesn't look great but from a technical level it's not quite up to par as SMG. I'm mostly a PC gamer so maybe I just have a sharper eye for this and maybe the colors in SMG are mis-leading you. You can't argue that SMG doesn't use more advanced graphical bells and whistles then either game you mentioned. Because it does. Maybe you jsut prefer the artstyle in NGB over SMG and that's why it looks better to you.

Well i cant find any pictures showing off its large enviroments that are high res. You probably can appreciate all these things like AA, shaders, etc because you are a PC gamer. I for one dont really care about that stuff, they are just "features" to me. Not once have i mentioned anything about AA or shaders in a game. To me, a game either looks good, not so good, or rubbish. Not bothered with all this tech stuff, because at the end of the day, to me, the game either looks good or bad. Maybe it is the art style, who knows.

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

hmmm SMG does have amazing physics, but its graphics are exactly the same as sunshine (with a few more particle effects added) and i dont know where you came up with your atmosphere theory.....play bioshock for a game that actually gives atmosphere......never did i play mario galaxy and feel i was immersed in the game.

and obviously wii games do have lower standards when the system cant produce the graphic quality of the ps3 and 360 it has to rely on "style" or a nice way of saying dated graphics.

Halo 3 and Forza 2 supposedly had subpar graphics according to a lot of reviewers. That didn't stop it from receiving AAA status.

but yes in general I agree......Wii games get a pass for the most part with graphics because it's not expected to excell in that department. That's why the old rating of gamespot was much better. Consoles should all be compared to each other JUST LIKE THE SCORES. Just because one console is less capable doesn't mean it should get a pass.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

gearsofhalogeek

hmmm SMG does have amazing physics, but its graphics are exactly the same as sunshine (with a few more particle effects added) and i dont know where you came up with your atmosphere theory.....play bioshock for a game that actually gives atmosphere......never did i play mario galaxy and feel i was immersed in the game.

and obviously wii games do have lower standards when the system cant produce the graphic quality of the ps3 and 360 it has to rely on "style" or a nice way of saying dated graphics.

Do Wii have lower technical graphics standards? Yes, we all know the Wii is underpowered compared to PS3/360.

Do Wii have lower standards on games/gameplay? No, GOTY2007 SMG is proof of that.