It's great 360 owners get a full game for the same price PS3 owners pay for a de

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tumle"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

Erik_Lensherr

the quality and length of the demos on 360 must really be superb, if you call gt5P a demo. and it makes me wonder why lemmings a buying games when they can get the free MEGA DEMO..

Maybe you missed the original post it;s either a demo\prologue\incompelete game. It's not a full game.

Full game... unless devs didn't put everything they wanted into it. It's just not GT5 though like you're expecting it to be. It's GT5Prologue.

I know that, a 40$ incomplete game, the same price as VP2 and BK n&b two FULL games. Read the OP.

Incomplete? What part of Gran Turismo 5: PROLOGUE don't you understand?

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

Erik_Lensherr

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

WipeOut HD

/thread failes.

TheKonspiracy

Does that change the fact of the OP, didn't think so "/thread" = failed

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

tmntPunchout

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

Erik_Lensherr

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Its not an incomplete game. Its Gran Turismo 5: PROLOGUE. Its the prologue to Gran Turismo 5. Its not incomplete!

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

Erik_Lensherr

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

Erik_Lensherr

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

3 weapons and 2 maps is totally different as oppose to 60 cars. Thats pretty good for a PROLOGUE.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Logically, it is a full game because you're expecting it to be GT5 when devs specifically titled and released it as GT5Prologue. In a way, compare it to NG on Xbox to NGSigma on PS3 but to I guess a lesser extent. NG was a complete game, as complete as the developers intended. NGS has stuff in NG as well as added content making it a complete game as well, but would you say NG wasn't a complete game anymore. GT5P has all the content developers intended to release it as making it the complete game they wanted, GT5 will just have added content as well. BTW I never bought it though since I knew they were going to release ANOTHER GAME called GT5 which had all that content and more.

Haku_Ryushi

That's what I'm saying though is evrything that's in GT5P going to be in GTP. If so then it's an incomplete version of GT5P.

It's a complete version of GT5P.. That's what I've been saying. It is, in a sense, an incomplete version of GT5 though, but if you're going to think like that, Halo 3, CoD4, GTA4, etc. with all the downloadable content makes those games incomplete versions as well.

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Its not an incomplete game. Its Gran Turismo 5: PROLOGUE. Its the prologue to Gran Turismo 5. Its not incomplete!

The title of the product means zero,nada , nothing. It's the content, that you will be paying for twice.

Dude I'm not going to argue semantics with you , call it whatever you want GT5 .5, prologue, demo. The fact remians everthing that's in GT5 .5 will also be in GT5. Understand, can I be more clear. The title of the product means zero,nada , nothing. It's the content.Erik_Lensherr

Whatever tickles your pickle

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Erik_Lensherr

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.lesner87

40$s for a demo ? Really ? Strange.I download free demos from PS Store.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

tmntPunchout

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Ok..... So Infinity Ward decides next time they make a COD game they are going to come out with COD6 Prologue, before the main "COD6". It is going to have 2 maps, 6 guns, and online capibilities (poor ones at that). Now they are going to sell this product at 40 dollars.. but if you just wait you will eventually get the same product (the 2 maps you played with in COD6 prologue, and the 6 guns you played with will be there) with 15 maps 50 weapons and of course great online in "COD6:. Is said product "COD6 Prologue" worth the same value as a brand new Full retail game for the same price 40 dollars?.:)

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Erik_Lensherr

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Ok..... So Infinity Ward decides next time they make a COD game they are going to come out with COD6 Prologue. It is going to have 2 maps, 6 guns, and online capibilities (poor ones at that). Now they are going to sell this product at 40 dollars.. but if you just wait you will eventually get the same product (the 2 maps you played with in COD6 prologue, and the 6 guns you played with) with 15 maps 50 weapons and of course great online. Is said product "COD6" worth the same value as a brand new Full retail game for the same price 40 dollars?.:)

I think the main reason why Prologue was released is because Polyphony Digital knew it was going to take ALOT of time to make the real Gran Turismo 5(probably advanced physics and 800-1000 cars). So in order to stop people from whining about not having a Gran Turismo game, they made Gran Turismo 5: Prologue. Just saying...

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Haku_Ryushi

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Ok..... So Infinity Ward decides next time they make a COD game they are going to come out with COD6 Prologue. It is going to have 2 maps, 6 guns, and online capibilities (poor ones at that). Now they are going to sell this product at 40 dollars.. but if you just wait you will eventually get the same product (the 2 maps you played with in COD6 prologue, and the 6 guns you played with) with 15 maps 50 weapons and of course great online. Is said product "COD6" worth the same value as a brand new Full retail game for the same price 40 dollars?.:)

I think the main reason why Prologue was released is because Polyphony Digital knew it was going to take ALOT of time to make the real Gran Turismo 5(probably advanced physics and 800-1000 cars). So in order to stop people from whining about not having a Gran Turismo game, they made Gran Turismo 5: Prologue. Just saying...

And they had to charge 40 dollars the same price as full games VP 2 and BK n&b, did you even read the original post?

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

Erik_Lensherr

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Ok..... So Infinity Ward decides next time they make a COD game they are going to come out with COD6 Prologue. It is going to have 2 maps, 6 guns, and online capibilities (poor ones at that). Now they are going to sell this product at 40 dollars.. but if you just wait you will eventually get the same product (the 2 maps you played with in COD6 prologue, and the 6 guns you played with) with 15 maps 50 weapons and of course great online. Is said product "COD6" worth the same value as a brand new Full retail game for the same price 40 dollars?.:)

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

If you feel that bad about it, then you should ask Sony why they did that. Maybe they'd tell you. Who knows...

That's not the point , the point is the thread title "it's nice 360 owners get 2 full games for the price Sony is charging for a demo, prologue\incomplete game".:)

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yes but the downloadable content wasn't 40 dollars, and you didn't need them to play the game. Also what I bolded is true so you can call it whatever you want it's still a 40 dollar incomplete game.:)

tmntPunchout

Let's put it this way if COD 4 came out with COD4 Prologue with 2 maps and 3 weapons, all with online capabilities. Would you but it for 40 dollars over a full game for 40 dollars?

That doesn't make much sense though unless they came out at different time periods and COD4 released for $60 and not $40. Please elaborate so I can understand what you're trying to tell me.

Ok..... So Infinity Ward decides next time they make a COD game they are going to come out with COD6 Prologue. It is going to have 2 maps, 6 guns, and online capibilities (poor ones at that). Now they are going to sell this product at 40 dollars.. but if you just wait you will eventually get the same product (the 2 maps you played with in COD6 prologue, and the 6 guns you played with) with 15 maps 50 weapons and of course great online. Is said product "COD6" worth the same value as a brand new Full retail game for the same price 40 dollars?.:)

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

Good point, were not talking about depreciated value though. If that were they case I would buy Balders Gate 2 and have a better RPG that whats on 360 or PS3. And it would be cheaper

And lemmings have forgotten needing to buy a full game to get into the halo beta.

[QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Erik_Lensherr

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

official petition to have a level 10 limit in system wars to creat topic go!mistervengeance

15:P

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

Erik_Lensherr

Good point, were not talking about depreciated value though. If that were they case I would buy Balders Gate 2 and have a better RPG that whats on 360 or PS3. And it would be cheaper

Yeah I thought you might not, but my case still stands that Oblivion was released for $60 and the GOTY edition was released for $60 where one game contains the same content and more than the other game. Also, you're assuming that GT5 or you're "COD6" would release at the same price as their 'prologues' if you will. We'll never know about COD6 but GT5 we'd have to wait til the actual price comes out, but I'm guessing it would release at $60 or giving it more value than the $40 GT5P.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]official petition to have a level 10 limit in system wars to creat topic go!Blommen

15:P

Or 20. :P

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Blommen

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

Topic title " it's great 360 owners can but 2 full games for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo". This is fact get over it.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

tmntPunchout

Good point, were not talking about depreciated value though. If that were they case I would buy Balders Gate 2 and have a better RPG that whats on 360 or PS3. And it would be cheaper

Yeah I thought you might not, but my case still stands that Oblivion was released for $60 and the GOTY edition was released for $60 where one game contains the same content and more than the other game. Also, you're assuming that GT5 or you're "COD6" would release at the same price as their 'prologues' if you will. We'll never know about COD6 but GT5 we'd have to wait til the actual price comes out, but I'm guessing it would release at $60 or giving it more value than the $40 GT5P.

Exactly , I can buy two games at that price, FULL games :)

official petition to have a level 10 limit in system wars to creat topic go!mistervengeance

great retort, way to add to the discussion

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

Erik_Lensherr

Good point, were not talking about depreciated value though. If that were they case I would buy Balders Gate 2 and have a better RPG that whats on 360 or PS3. And it would be cheaper

Yeah I thought you might not, but my case still stands that Oblivion was released for $60 and the GOTY edition was released for $60 where one game contains the same content and more than the other game. Also, you're assuming that GT5 or you're "COD6" would release at the same price as their 'prologues' if you will. We'll never know about COD6 but GT5 we'd have to wait til the actual price comes out, but I'm guessing it would release at $60 or giving it more value than the $40 GT5P.

Exactly , I can buy two games at that price, FULL games :)

Well, I was proving that GT5P is still a 'full' game at $40. Value has nothing to do with determining if a game is a 'full' game or not.

[QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Erik_Lensherr

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

Topic title " it's great 360 owners can but 2 full games for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo". This is fact get over it.

Haha ok.

So which 2 360 games launched at a 20$ pricetag?? I'm waiting...

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

Nope, naturally it'd release with a higher cost and "COD6P" would go down to say $20. Not the same value though, not at all.

Most games released in the past have decreased in value so the prologue would also be at a reduced price as well. Here's another good example, Oblivion (compare to GT5P) released at $60 for 360, now, there was a GOTY edition with Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine for $60 released after. Does that mean Oblivion was not a complete game since Oblivion GOTY edition has all the content in the original oblivion as well as more and released for $60 (or valued the same if youre using your COD6 analogy). If you compared prices after they are both out, Oblivion is cheaper than GOTY edition.

tmntPunchout

Good point, were not talking about depreciated value though. If that were they case I would buy Balders Gate 2 and have a better RPG that whats on 360 or PS3. And it would be cheaper

Yeah I thought you might not, but my case still stands that Oblivion was released for $60 and the GOTY edition was released for $60 where one game contains the same content and more than the other game. Also, you're assuming that GT5 or you're "COD6" would release at the same price as their 'prologues' if you will. We'll never know about COD6 but GT5 we'd have to wait til the actual price comes out, but I'm guessing it would release at $60 or giving it more value than the $40 GT5P.

Exactly , I can buy two games at that price, FULL games :)

Well, I was proving that GT5P is still a 'full' game at $40. Value has nothing to do with determining if a game is a 'full' game or not.

It's already been determined it's not a full game, Value has to do with 360 owners being able to buy 2 fulls games at that price.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Blommen

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

Topic title " it's great 360 owners can but 2 full games for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo". This is fact get over it.

Haha ok.

So which 2 360 games launched at a 20$ pricetag?? I'm waiting...

You my want to re-read what you replied to where did I say you get both. buy 2 full games (one is VP2 , the other is BK n&b) for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo. Good try though

It's already been determined it's not a full game, Value has to do with 360 owners being able to buy 2 fulls games at that price.

Erik_Lensherr

When was that determined it was not a full game? As far as I can tell, it still is a full game of GT5P, but also is only part of the content in GT5 which in it's own rights is a different full game. Just like how Oblivion is a full game, but also Oblivion GOTY edition which contains all the content of Oblivion and more content is a different full game as well. Did you just completely disregard everything we discussed or something or lost yourself in your own logic?

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

It's already been determined it's not a full game, Value has to do with 360 owners being able to buy 2 fulls games at that price.

tmntPunchout

When was that determined it was not a full game? As far as I can tell, it still is a full game of GT5P, but also is only part of the content in GT5 which in it's own rights is a different full game. Just like how Oblivion is a full game, but also Oblivion GOTY edition which contains all the content of Oblivion and more content is a different full game as well. Did you just completely disregard everything we discussed or something or lost yourself in your own logic?

You may be the one lost, like I replied to someone earlier. The title of the product mans nothing, 0, zero, zilch, nada. When GT5 comes, will it have everything GT5P has? Yes, therefore it is an incomplete version of GT5. Yes they may have put evryhting they wanted in "prologue". Doesn't change the fact it is an incomplete version of GT5.

*edit* your ES analogy doesn't work they both cost 60 dollars at launch.

But its not a demo. hakanakumono

This again?

*edit* read the very first post, you can call it a prologue, demo whatever you want. What you cannot call it is a complete game.

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

It's already been determined it's not a full game, Value has to do with 360 owners being able to buy 2 fulls games at that price.

Erik_Lensherr

When was that determined it was not a full game? As far as I can tell, it still is a full game of GT5P, but also is only part of the content in GT5 which in it's own rights is a different full game. Just like how Oblivion is a full game, but also Oblivion GOTY edition which contains all the content of Oblivion and more content is a different full game as well. Did you just completely disregard everything we discussed or something or lost yourself in your own logic?

You may be the one lost, like I replied to someone earlier. The title of the product mans nothing, 0, zero, zilch, nada. When GT5 comes, will it have everything GT5P has? Yes, therefore it is an incomplete version of GT5. Yes they may have put evryhting they wanted in "prologue". Doesn't change the fact it is an incomplete version of GT5.

Then just as I said, you're logic carries on to meaning Oblivion was not a complete game. It also carries on to saying that any game with a compilation of the original release plus expansions is the only complete game while the first, original game was not a complete game. If we carry on with what you just stated, theoretically if there was a GTA4 game released with all the downloadable episodes named GTA4(complete), the GTA4 game released earlier this year would not be a complete game. Therefore it that GTA4 game would not be complete game for GTA4(complete). That is just ridiculous since everyone knows GTA4 is a complete game in itself.

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

Erik_Lensherr

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

[QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Erik_Lensherr

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

Topic title " it's great 360 owners can but 2 full games for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo". This is fact get over it.

Haha ok.

So which 2 360 games launched at a 20$ pricetag?? I'm waiting...

You my want to re-read what you replied to where did I say you get both. buy 2 full games (one is VP2 , the other is BK n&b) for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo. Good try though

:roll:

Yeah ok, I'm through discussing with you, we're getting nowhere. It's time for me to play some Mass Effect;)

And lemmings have forgotten needing to buy a full game to get into the halo beta.

Krigon

Crackdown was an awesome game.

Failed point.

[QUOTE="superjim42"]$40 a demo???? ur mistakenhayato_

What is he talking about.

I believe hes talking about the Gran Turismo Prolouge 5

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

SolidTy

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

I think he argued somewhere that no SP means no full game.. zzzz.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="Blommen"]

Deja vu much?

Nobody ever claimed that it was a full game, the title even says it: Prologue. They(developers) never said it was a full game, just a taste of what's to come. If you want it, you buy it!

What's next? Maybe in your next thread you're going to cry about expansions not being full games?!? Give me a break!

Blommen

Dude that has nothing to do with the thread topic, just go if you cannot read the entire thread before posting ok.

I read the whole topic, ok "dude"?

It seems to me that you are just trying to find a way to bash ps3 games but you're half a year late. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, you're free to spend your money as you please, right?? If I am wrong, tell me...

People can wait for the full game(GT5) or they can buy a "beta version"(GT5: P). It's kinda like pre-ordering a "collectors edition" of an MMO and getting acces to the beta.

Topic title " it's great 360 owners can but 2 full games for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo". This is fact get over it.

Haha ok.

So which 2 360 games launched at a 20$ pricetag?? I'm waiting...

You my want to re-read what you replied to where did I say you get both. buy 2 full games (one is VP2 , the other is BK n&b) for the price PS3 user's pay for a demo. Good try though

:roll:

Yeah ok, I'm through discussing with you, we're getting nowhere. It's time for me to play some Mass Effect;)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

tmntPunchout

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

I think he argued somewhere that no SP means no full game.. zzzz.

Where did I say that?, Someone else brought those games up for being 40 dollars. Of course they are there Mutliplayer only :roll:

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

Erik_Lensherr

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

I think he argued somewhere that no SP means no full game.. zzzz.

Where did I say that?, Someone else brought those games up for being 40 dollars. Of course they are there Mutliplayer only :roll:

OOps, Oh well, probably scanned that part only then. And what's wrong with multiplayer only though?

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

Erik_Lensherr

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

I think he argued somewhere that no SP means no full game.. zzzz.

Where did I say that?, Someone else brought those games up for being 40 dollars. Of course they are there Mutliplayer only :roll:

If you are arguing content, many say Viva 2 is an overpriced expansion, and not a true sequel.

Also, I think Burnout is now available on PS3 for $40, that's pretty nifty, if true.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

In my opinion it's great that 360 owners can pay 40 for a full game, where as the PS3 owners pay 40 dollars for a demo. Even if they wanna call t something besides a demo it's definatly not a full game. And VP 2 is a great game according to gamespot and hopefully BK N&B will get a 8.5 or higher. Discuss.

*edit* demo in question GT prologue

tmntPunchout

That's okay, Warhawk is $30, SOCOM will be $40, there's deals on PS3.

I think he argued somewhere that no SP means no full game.. zzzz.

Where did I say that?, Someone else brought those games up for being 40 dollars. Of course they are there Mutliplayer only :roll:

OOps, Oh well, probably scanned that part only then. And what's wrong with multiplayer only though?

Nothing is wrong with it, that's why their 40 dollars.