It's hard to imagine graphics getting much better than this.....

I'm not at all knowlegable (and will not pretend to be) in the game tech department. What is ray tracing? I think it has something the do with everything reacting to a dynamic light source but I'm not really sure if that's right.

ActicEdge

Think of it as really realisitc lighting and lighting physics. If you wanna know how far away we are from that, Quake 3 can't even run on top-end hardware at 60FPS when ray-tracing is enabled.

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What is really funny is, disregarding the multitude of pc games that hold UC3's head in a toilet graphically, Gears 3 looks just as good if not better. I thought cows would have learned not to be this fanboyish a long time ago....guess not.

Pray_to_me

Gears 2 doesn't even look as good as Uncharted 1.

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[QUOTE="15strong"]

You have to prove it. Which you can't.

The ship is actually titlting back and forth as if it were at sea. All the objects(chandaliers, boxes, tables, ect.) are reacting to the tilting of the ship. Drake's weight placement and movement is not scripted, he is actually reacting to the weight distribution of the ship.

Pray_to_me

You can't prove it isn't scripted. Most of those objects are static. They are set to move according to which way the boat is tilting. Its not dynamic. Its scripted.

So what?

I don't get the point of your post.

As long as there is cgi that looks better than games there is room for improvement

The Uncharted games are easily the best looking games..............on consoles. Step in to the world of PC games and your little consoles will get destroyed. By outdated hardware, might I add...

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I'm not at all knowlegable (and will not pretend to be) in the game tech department. What is ray tracing? I think it has something the do with everything reacting to a dynamic light source but I'm not really sure if that's right.

ChubbyGuy40

Think of it as really realisitc lighting and lighting physics. If you wanna know how far away we are from that, Quake 3 can't even run on top-end hardware at 60FPS when ray-tracing is enabled.

Well, that's . .. yeah :P

That said though is there perhaps better alternatives?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="15strong"]

I am going to ask you to not be so biased. Are you impressed with Uncharted 3? Think of all the complex physics and animation that are being implemented on the boat level. The entire level is moving, with Drake, objects, enemies, and water reacting to every tilt and movement of the boat. This game is more impressive than a lot of high end PC games.

15strong

You have to prove it. Which you can't.

The ship is actually titlting back and forth as if it were at sea. All the objects(chandaliers, boxes, tables, ect.) are reacting to the tilting of the ship. Drake's weight placement and movement is not scripted, he is actually reacting to the weight distribution of the ship.

you need a better imagination...darkmagician06

There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

ActicEdge

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Why the negativity towrds this thread ? if he believes this is the best he has seen let him believe, acting all cool and saying yeah we have a PC so this doesn't even compare shows how arrogant you are.TheGuardian03

That's just misguided. He said its hard to imagine graphics getting better then U3. Graphics have been better then U3 since 2007. How is it arrogant to point out he is spouting false claims? And U3 looks great, most of us agree.

Yes. This is actually one of those instances where like, its not really an opinion. Its a false statement trying to hide behind an opinion. The Master Race can be annoying but in this case they are in the right, this thread is WAY WAY WAY off base.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

When games get to that point its going to be scary as heck. :P

ActicEdge

Oh yes, it will be.

Once we've got ray tracing in real-time, heads will explode.

I'm not at all knowlegable (and will not pretend to be) in the game tech department. What is ray tracing? I think it has something the do with everything reacting to a dynamic light source but I'm not really sure if that's right.

From what I understand, it's where the virtual rays of light from a light source are actually being simulated. So the "rays" are "traced" from the light source(s) into the scene, where they reflect off surfaces and change illumination values accordingly as they would in real life, until eventually they reach the camera. Shadows look more realistic as they're actually the result of not enough light reaching an area, as in real life. Reflections look more realistic, as they're the result of light actually hitting the surface and reflecting off of it, as in real life.

Whereas at the moment, light sources in games pretty much just directly change brightness values of nearby surfaces. Shadows are calculated by analysing where the light source is, where the object is, and then rendering a shadow. Reflections are done by simply re-rendering the scene in another object.

That's my basic understanding of it anyway. Maybe someone else could understand it better. But what I do know is... it makes things look AMAZING.

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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

What is really funny is, disregarding the multitude of pc games that hold UC3's head in a toilet graphically, Gears 3 looks just as good if not better. I thought cows would have learned not to be this fanboyish a long time ago....guess not.

Frostbite24

Gears 2 doesn't even look as good as Uncharted 1.

Hate to crush your world but...

kk? gg ;)

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There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

POPEYE1716

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

POPEYE1716

Definatley better than any other console offerings, PC gamers will have to shovel money into their nerd boxes to ahieve greatness like this.

People said the same thing when FFX came out.

Those were the days...

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Gears 2 doesn't even look as good as Uncharted 1.

Pray_to_me

Hate to crush your world but...

Definatley better than any other console offerings, PC gamers will have to shovel money into their nerd boxes to ahieve greatness like this.

specialzed

There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

ActicEdge

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] I know there have been better graphics than uncharted 3 since 2007, are you saying his opinion is wrong ? that's what he believes, did you read the part where i said "acting all cool and saying yeah we have a PC so this doesn't even compare shows how arrogant you are." ? i'm talking about those who have a PC and acting all cool and like yeah we have a PC so it doesn't matter what your little consle produce .TheGuardian03

Yes. This is actually one of those instances where like, its not really an opinion. Its a false statement trying to hide behind an opinion. The Master Race can be annoying but in this case they are in the right, this thread is WAY WAY WAY off base.

Readin the first post I know what faction TC is from lol

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There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

oldkingallant

I always liked you as a poster but the Yankees? Haha I kid :P

you have to admit that it looks insane considering the gpu that ps3 is using.

imagine if you paired a gtx580 with a next-gen cell cpu.

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There are PC games that already have better graphics then uncharted 3. A PC game from 4 years ago craps all over it :?

ActicEdge

I always liked you as a poster but the Yankees? Haha I kid :P

U got somthin on ur nose bro. Do you even own a PC capable of running crysis? I do it's really not that big of a deal, don't belive the hype.

Here's my way of saying I disagree.

you have to admit that it looks insane considering the gpu that ps3 is using.

imagine if you paired a gtx580 with a next-gen cell cpu.

ZoomZoom2490

I'm not impressed, but I am a PC gamer...-GeordiLaForge-

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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] Exactly, see Crysis and The Witcher 2....Pray_to_me

I always liked you as a poster but the Yankees? Haha I kid :P

U got somthin on ur nose bro. Do you even own a PC capable of running crysis? I do it's really not that big of a deal, don't belive the hype.

Running? Yeah. Maxing? Nope. Seen it running on full though, better then U3, no doubt about it.

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I'm not impressed, but I am a PC gamer...ZoomZoom2490

Considering the tech in the consoles, it's damn impressive, but even held back by an inefficient api's, unlike consoles,pc just has the raw power to push out more technically superior and demanding graphics.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I'm not impressed, but I am a PC gamer...Inconsistancy

just because pc's look more powerfull on paper it doesnt mean much if you dont even have a single dev making exclusive games for pc.

like i said before, what ps3 is doing with that crappy gpu is amazing.

too bad pc's dont have 5% of effort put in that area.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] im suprised that you arent considering the fact that pc gaming is still stick with dx9.ZoomZoom2490

too bad pc's dont have 5% of effort put in that area.

You can't dev the way you do for consoles for pc, it doesn't work, you can't code that low level when the hardware is changing, or it'll just not run on different hardware configurations, that's why we have to use api's for pc, and consoles go around that and code to metal.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Api =/= graphics, but Metro is dx11, Crysis is dx10, BF3 is dx10/11 only, ARMA is going the same direction, Codemasters' has been on DX11 since F1 2010.Inconsistancy

i hope you're enjoying all the console ports, ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]i hope you're enjoying all the console ports, Inconsistancy

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]i hope you're enjoying all the console ports, ZoomZoom2490

Higher res/textures = graphics btw, so that's a graphical upgrade.

Oh, and I can afford it, U jelly :P?

Also, let's not ignore that the consoles at launch were 400-600$, so if you grabbed both around then, you just bought my pc, with less functionality, and vastly inferior performance.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] none of those games are using full dx11 features, i would say 5%-10%ZoomZoom2490

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]i hope you're enjoying all the console ports, ZoomZoom2490

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

I like FFXIII's graphics more than this. And Eternal Sonata's. And Okami's. And Paper Mario's. And Flower's.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] It's irrelevant, an api isn't magic, dx9 can still be pretty as hell. And I'm pretty highly doubting your knowledge on the implementation of dx11 features, it's just a random guess with numbers pulled out of your rectum.malikmmm